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Button may not be jammed, but it does seem like the switch is being activated sometimes. There doesn't seem to be any way to disable the long press to activate assistant function on the button. You had a touchscreen issue first and now it seems like a microswitch is sometimes being held down internally. I think I would be wary of a spicy pillow situation at this point or some other internal shifting of the components.
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Yeah, I could see corrosion doing that. The OG Pixel Watch has no IP rating, it's really only water resistant up to 5atm. But without an IP rating we don't know how it stands up to streams of water. A waterpark could very well have forced water into places where it wasn't supposed to go.
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bull3964 posted:a spicy pillow situation First time hearing of this and it's a great descriptor.
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Damnit. It didn't even occur to me to check to see of Oheath allowed pairing more than one watch because of course it did, right? Nope. No way to switch between the OnePlus Watch 2 (silver) and OnePlus Watch 2r (black) without unpairing and resetting. This would be a little bit easier if OnePlus implemented watch transfer between devices so I could shuffle them, but NOPE. What's even more annoying about it is the tab in Ohealth is named "Devices". Not sure you understand the meaning of plural. bull3964 fucked around with this message at 17:15 on Jul 19, 2024 |
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Really liking the 2r so far but holy did I ever dodge a bullet not going with the 2. I don't have small wrists at all but this thing is big as hell and if it was heavier it would be too much. Not sure if all watches are like this now but the 2r is the absolute upper limit of what I'd want on my wrist all the time.
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It's funny because the 12R is close to the limit I would want on my wrist in the opposite direction. I guess the regular 44mm Galaxy Watch 4/5/6/7 is a bit smaller and it's ok on my wrist, but I consider those to be really minimalistic. 12R sits at the nice midpoint that the Galaxy Watch 6 Classic occupies. The Pixel Watch looks comically small. My Galaxy Watch Ultra arrives tomorrow. I'm looking forward to having something that chungus.
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Just a few more comparison observations between the OnePlus Watch 2 and 2R. As far as the tech hardware goes, 100% the same so functionality wise, you are good either way. Also even with the different case shapes, the bands for the OnePlus Watch 2 should fit the 2r. Yes, it uses standard 22mm lugs, but I'm referring to the form fitting stock bands that take out the gap. The OnePlus 2 bands extend to the width of the lugs themselves, giving a tapered effect while the 2R band is just straight. On the subject of the stock bands, that's the first place you can feel the cost savings. The 2R is just a standard silicon band while the 2 are fluoroelastomer bands. The stock bands of the 2 are much more substantial feeling and are more supple and less likely to pick up lint and other dirt. I would wager they are stronger and will last longer too. It's not a huge deal since again, you can swap the bands out with any standard 22mm ones, but you can tell they shaved pennies there. The Watch 2 is about 12 grams heavier than the 2R in the case iteslf. Overall with the included bands, it's actually 21 grams heavier (you can see the difference in band quality there.) Given that almost half the weight gain is from the strap itself and is therefore distributed, I can't say that the 2R feels THAT much lighter on the wrist. Really the 2 isn't that heavy of a watch for its size given the stainless steel, it's less than 3 grams heavier than the Galaxy Watch 5 Pro which is made out of titanium and the Watch 6 Classic (47mm) is 10 grams heavier. Off the wrist though, the extra weight of the whole package of the 2 vs the 2R makes it feel like a more expensive device. The 2R doesn't feel CHEAP, but it has less of an air of solidity about it. The dial markings on the face of the 2R make it a bit more interesting to look at, but the bezel again is something that feels more expensive on the 2. The 2R is a completely flat display slightly inset from the case. This might give it marginal screen protection, but honestly I would trust the sapphire over the aluminum with respect to getting dinged up. The 2 uses a 2.5d edge to the display that sits slightly above the case. There are very subtle concentric rings in the bezel around the display under the sapphire which give it a nice finished look. Again, not that the 2R feels especially cheap, but the little details of the 2 make it feel like a more expensive watch. Wth respect to the case and buttons, I do like the symmetrical case of the 2R better than the flattened side. with the different style buttons of the 2. It may be more vsually interesting, but I find it makes the bottom button hard to press and I just like a symmetrical case better. I half like and half dislike the finish on the 2R, but really I have the same complaint about the 2. The sides of the case are brushed, but the tops of the lugs are just matte (or polished with the silver option). I would rather it just be all brushed. It's not so bad on the silver stainless steel model, but it feels a little cheap on the aluminum gunmetal model. In the end, I think at full MSRP the watch 2R certainly feels like a good compromise to save $70. That's a substantial percentage of the price and I think you can make it feel more expensive by simply swapping out the band. I would keep an eye on sales though because I think the Watch 2 is worth it if the price difference becomes less. What's interesting is it's basically launching at the same price as the Watch 2 which makes me feel like OnePlus is trying to pull something here. The Watch 2 launched at $249 and had a $50 ANY watch trade in with no action on your part. You just had to say you had a watch to trade in and they gave you $50. They didn't expect you to send it in or anything. It was basically just an extra coupon. So, the out the door price was $199 there and you got better materials all the way around. Then again, they might have just wanted to make a splash with their reboot of their watches with significant discounts before moving it to a premium tier. It just feels like they need more product stratification other than materials and slight style difference to justify a $70 gap. At least Samsung gave people a rotating bezel for the extra money.
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I can report that the Watch 7 Ultra and Watch 7 both have the Pixel Watch 2 ability to respond to a swipe or tapthrough from the AoD which means you can disable raise to wake to save a bit more battery (or just have a smoother experience if the watch doesn't wake if you raise it.) In all I'm liking the Watch 7 Ultra. Paired up with my Pixel 8 Pro without issue, no warnings about not being supported or anything. Looks like I'll get the overall energy score in Samsung Health too. It did not prompt me for sleep apnea detection because that is something that you need a Galaxy phone for since it's in the Samsung Health Monitor app. I wonder how long it will take for a hacked version of that to come out to enable it on other devices. So far the thing is very smooth and snappy, much more so than 6 and below on the older processors. There are some new watch faces that they said will be making their way to older devices though there are a few "Ultra" only watch faces as well and I'm assuming those won't filter down. The Ultra ones have an automatic night mode for red watch face. Some of the tiles for system stuff (weather, health metrics) are updated and I'm assuming that will come with WearOS 5 when it hits other devices. Doesn't feel overly cumbersome on the wrist and still isn't the largest watch I own (the Garmin Instinct Solar 2x is bulkier.) Preorders get an extra Grey Trail Loop band for free and that's what I have on right now and it's comfortable. Looking at amazon it seems like there's already a quite a few 3rd party bands for the watch so I guess there's not going to be much issue with support for the proprietary connector. Though, I'll probably wait to see reviews on those bands to be sure that the connection is engineered right. There's also some standard lug adapters for 22mm bands and I might pick up those at some point if they prove to be quality.
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Ultra lasted just shy of 48 hours until it got into the 15% battery warning. This is with AoD on and pretty much wearing it round the clock except for showering. This was two nights sleep tracking too. OnePlus Watch 2(r) still gets better battery life with the dual arch system, it's a shame Samsung didn't go that route as this watch would have been a real monster. Battery stats say 42% of the drain was AoD, so I imagine you could stretch it quite a bit with tha turned off if you were so inclined. It took about 95 minutes to charge from 15% back to full (also really behind OnePlus.) It is drat fast and fluid though and honestly really comfortable on the wrist with the trail band. Energy score and advanced sleep tracking metrics work just fine on Pixel. AFAIK, the only think I'm losing out on is the sleep apnea detection (and the usual stuff like ECG.) bull3964 fucked around with this message at 03:26 on Jul 23, 2024 |
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I just got the 40mm Watch 7 and it does sleep apnea detection with a pixel 8. The battery life is a bit disappointing though. I'm down to about 30% when I'm ready to take a shower around 9pm after a full day and night with all sensors on. Also the battery life is the same whether the AOD is on or not. Is there any way to remap the Samsung wallet button to Google wallet?
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Are you sure you aren’t just looking at snore detection? That is available on other devices, but sleep apnea is a whole separate thing. And no, that remains one sore spot. You can’t remap the long press of the back button. I just assign double tap of the home button to Wallet instead.
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bull3964 posted:Are you sure you aren’t just looking at snore detection? Oops you're right. It's just snore detection.
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I'm really liking my Pixel Watch 2, and am a little surprised I haven't felt the impulse to swap back to my Galaxy Watch 5 at all. The one thing I still need to do is get LTE set up on it, but I'm on Verizon Prepaid and I think I need to jump through some hoops like putting my SIM back in my Pixel 6, installing My Verizon, choose the upgrade device option, swap the SIM back to my Pixel 8 Pro so it properly registers on their system, and then try adding the LTE watch add-on again. Right now the Pixel 6 is on a Tracfone plan using the Verizon towers, and doesn't register as a Pixel 6, I'm assuming due to the same issue. I could be totally wrong, and my legacy Prepaid plan might be the problem, but I'll burn that bridge when I come to it.
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Not WearOS, but WearOS adjacent. I got my Galaxy Ring this morning. The case is really neat and has a LED ring that shows you what the power level of the ring is when it’s in the case and the power level of the case when it is outside the case. The ring itself is light, as light or even lighter than the dummy plastic sizing kit. The sizing kit appears to be accurate as my 12 ring fits the same as the kit. No issues at all pairing with my Pixel 8 Pro. You can seen in the Galaxy Wearable application that both the Watch and Ring are connected and active at the same time. You also see that with icons in the Samsung Health app. The ring counts steps as you would expect and it looks like it samples the heart rate every 10 minutes with no option to do continuous like the watches. You can do a manual measurement from the Samsung Health app at any time. I assume this is a battery thing. I believe during workouts it will obviously sample more often, but I haven’t tried one yet. The ring itself supports auto detection of running and walking but it should work with other workouts triggered manually through Samsung Health. That’s really about it. I won’t know for a few days how it does with sleep tracking. I mainly bought this to have continuity of metrics in Samsung health no matter if I was wearing a watch or wearing some other watch or not even wearing a smartwatch at all. Health Connect works to do that for some of my other wearables, but I don’t think Samsung will use imported metrics for any of the energy score stuff and while I was usually able to get heart rate through health connect, it would never seem to bring over steps for some reason. It’s a pricy gadget just to add that stuff on and I still really don’t know what I’m doing with this data, but it scratches the itch of having everything in one place while not being tied down to wearing a Samsung Watch all the time.
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Thanks for your review. It sounds like if my only watch is a Galaxy watch and I have it on all the time except when it's charging then there is really no point to having a ring Somewhat related, I updated my watch 6 to the one UI watch 6 beta (I think that's what it's called) and I feel like my battery life has gotten a little better. But I had to factory reset/restore after updating due to it rebooting every minute so maybe that has more to do with the battery life. Overall it's a nice update, the UI changes are subtle but look much better and the super fast swiping through tiles is cool. The sleep apnea thing told me I don't have sleep apnea so that's good too.
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Resdfru posted:Thanks for your review. It sounds like if my only watch is a Galaxy watch and I have it on all the time except when it's charging then there is really no point to having a ring That is 100% accurate. Especially once the rest of the watches get the latest WearOS and have the energy score. It’s a weird place to be from a product perspective. All the reviews are sort of talking about this as a complement to the watches, but if you are a heavy watch user and only have it off while charging, then you aren’t really getting anything else out of this. That’s not really a Samsung failing either, there’s only so much you can do with a device like this and it’s obviously going to have 100% overlap with what the watch can do. This is really meant as an additional thing for someone that doesn’t wear a watch consistently or wants it to be an unobtrusive basic metric calculator that doesn’t have anything else. It’s also for people who find they can’t sleep with a watch on. I’m still trying to figure out how to get a good overall picture of things without locking in on a single device ecosystem. I’m FINE if it’s a health ecosystem, but not device because I like to change things up. I take a martial arts class and the struggle has been trying to track stuff there in a meaningful way that then ties in with idle metrics and sleep. I started out in Samsung with a Galaxy Fit like 4 years ago. My main watch was a Galaxy Watch 3 so it made sense to keep everything in Samsung Health. I didn’t really want to use the watch during class due to the size and weight and not wanting to potentially damage it. Kept doing that for awhile, eventually switching for a basic Watch 4 in a case during class while I used a Watch 4 Classic other times. Then the Charge 5 came out and was getting really good accuracy scores and sleep tracking scores and I knew that the coming Pixel watch was going to end up using Fitbit, so I decided to switch to that in Jan of 2022. For awhile I wore the charge 5 on my right wrist to get continual info during the day while using the Galaxy Watch on left wrist as my actual watch. Then the Pixel Watch came out and I rejoiced, only to have my hopes smashed that a) It’s too small for me to want to wear all the time and b) YOU CAN’T HAVE TWO DEVICES ASSOCIATED WITH YOUR ACCOUNT so I couldn’t easily do Pixel Watch during the day and Charge 5 with workouts. Still, I flipped flopped them daily for awhile until finally finding out how to trick the system into having both. Still though, the Pixel Watch wasn’t something I wanted to wear all the time due to its size. Finally I said gently caress it and got an Garmin Instinct 2x and a COROS arm heart rate monitor. The watch was rugged enough that I didn’t care about wearing during exercise and the external HRM strap meant I could take the watch off during sparring or anything that involved wrist grabs and still track stuff. But I can’t really take advantage of the Garmin Body Battery stuff because I don’t wear the Instinct 24/7. So, after all that long winded stuff, the Ring gives me choices in that I can almost always have continuity of metrics in Samsung Health while focusing on other stuff. I could wear the ring to class and forego the Garmin and HRM as the ring really wouldn’t get in the way most of the time (bag work and sparring with gloves wouldn’t really be risky with the ring on though I wonder how accurate the heart rate would be.) I could also use the Ring to keep day to day stuff in Samsung Health while wearing the Garmin more if I was focused on actual training goals for a period. But the other thing this gives me is a Samsung Device based metrics that are trusted to be used for other scoring in Samsung Health while wearing something like my OnePlus Watch or the upcoming larger Pixel Watch 3. What’s nice is the HR metrics from those devices will export to Samsung health via Health Connect, so I would have both the ring metrics that will be used for health score along with continuous watch based metrics. It feels like every health ecosystem needs a smaller unobtrusive HRM that’s easy to wear (like a ring) so that you can keep feeding data in for their various overall scores when you aren’t wearing their primary device. Now whether any of this is even useful in the slightest, jury’s still out on that.
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My 44mm watch 7 is using about 40% of battery with out of box settings minus aod, thats with about an 1.5 hour workout thrown in. Pretty good. Its also waaaaay lighter than my old 4 classic. Only thing I dislike is the new watch face only having two widgets, I know they are going hyper minimalist with this but I'd like something like this but with like 1 or 2 more discrete widgets.
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Yeah, the classics are stainless steel which is heavy. Fun fact, the gigantic Watch 7 Ultra is only 1.5 grams heavier than the Watch 6 Classic since it uses titanium instead of stainless steel.
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The charging cable for the Galaxy 4 Classic is ridiculously short, and it's not detachable from the charger itself. It just barely reached my old nightstand, but my new one is a couple of inches taller, so no dice. I know USB-C PD doesn't have a spec for extension cables and that's a bad idea, but this charger is USB-A, so is there an extension cable out there that probably won't set my house on fire?
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Quixzlizx posted:The charging cable for the Galaxy 4 Classic is ridiculously short, and it's not detachable from the charger itself. It just barely reached my old nightstand, but my new one is a couple of inches taller, so no dice. I know USB-C PD doesn't have a spec for extension cables and that's a bad idea, but this charger is USB-A, so is there an extension cable out there that probably won't set my house on fire? I'd suggest getting an extension cord that has outlets and USB ports, maybe with a little surge protection. I've been taking a cord like that with me when I travel so if the motel doesn't have convenient outlets I can give myself an extra 6' or so, and it's nice having built-in USB ports for charging. This is the one that always travels with me (although I didn't get mine through Amazon): https://www.amazon.com/Anker-PowerE...5273540786&th=1
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CaptainSarcastic posted:I'd suggest getting an extension cord that has outlets and USB ports, maybe with a little surge protection. I've been taking a cord like that with me when I travel so if the motel doesn't have convenient outlets I can give myself an extra 6' or so, and it's nice having built-in USB ports for charging. The watch charging cable is already plugged into an Anker multi-port charger. I need a longer USB cable, not an extension from a wall outlet. Something like this, I'm just not sure if they're OK to use. According to Samsung, the charger only needs 150mA, so I'm guessing there isn't a huge risk of me burning out a cable by using the extension cable.
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Quixzlizx posted:The watch charging cable is already plugged into an Anker multi-port charger. I need a longer USB cable, not an extension from a wall outlet. That'll be fine, it's just going to be straight through from end to end electrically.
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I know the Watch 7 models just launched, but I really wonder what Samsung is going to do next year besides the obvious update of the Classic to the W1000 chip and new sensor package. We can probably assume the Ultra will skip a gen based on the prior Pro model being skipped last year (since it's the Classic's turn to refresh). Watches generation 4-6 were all very minor updates, but they had something that could be pointed to as substantively better than the previous gen. 4 to 5 changed the cover glass to Sapphire and had a decent battery size jump (49-50 mAh depending on size) and a tweaked sensor that added temp. 5 to 6 had a tiny battery change, had an SoC change on paper only (it was just a slight clock bump), but added another 500mb of ram and increased the display size 6-7 is new sensor a hugely substantive SoC upgrade, brighter displays, and 32gb of storage from 16gb Since the 7 refreshed pretty much everything about the watch and we can expect Samsung to go a few generations with the W1000, I'm having troubling coming up with things they could tweak for Galaxy Watch 8 update. About the only thing I could think of is the implementation of the hybrid OS arch to substantially improve battery life. If they did that though, It would be funny that their normal watches would now get better battery life than their Ultra (I do not expect them to release a classic and Ultra in the same year.)
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Android just informed me that Samsung Health updated its use of location info to include sharing with 3rd parties for marketing purposes. Which is quite the thing. I blocked location data from the app, but of course it received what the watch gives it. Ugh. I've still got a Galaxy Watch 4 Classic, but don't think I'm going with a Samsung device again. I have to use a Pixel if I want work email on my phone, so I guess best to use a Pixel watch next.
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v1ld posted:Android just informed me that Samsung Health updated its use of location info to include sharing with 3rd parties for marketing purposes. Which is quite the thing. Lmfao you want to switch from Samsung to Google because *checks notes* you hate tracking?
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CLAM DOWN posted:Lmfao you want to switch from Samsung to Google because *checks notes* you hate tracking? AFAIK, they don't sell non-anonymized location data to anyone. Do they? They use it for their own purposes for sure - but that's still better than making it available everywhere. I also have the option to purge my location data with Google at any time, along with other tracking information. Like, I'm not a Google fan but least worst is still something.
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FWIW, I have not seen anything from Samsung health that has said anything about location data for 3rd party marketing. Was this a phone app update? How did you get the warning?
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I see a few reddit posts about something like this a year ago when I try to Google it. And this post about it on this site https://www.diggitmagazine.com/articles/samsung-health-ethical-concerns
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bull3964 posted:FWIW, I have not seen anything from Samsung health that has said anything about location data for 3rd party marketing. It was an alert from Android's location services saying the Health app has changed its declaration on what it would use the data for. The quoted change from the app explicitly mentioned 3rd parties for marketing, no mention of anonymizing the data first.
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Secondary monetization is a hell of a thing. That's one reason why every goddamn company and service wants you to install their app. You have to agree to their privacy policies, and what they do with data they gather is often unclear or is otherwise obfuscated. Running the Duckduckgo tracker blocker has been illuminating as to how many apps will try to phone home to various 3rd parties, and if it's a 1st party app then who knows what they are doing. One of my favorite pieces of bullshit is that Albertsons and Safeway try to make you install a separate app for each chain, despite being the same company now with the same products.
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I run all my internet traffic through pihole and Amazon, Samsung, and oddly enough Netflix are the biggest culprits. I don't even have a Netflix account, nor is it installed on any of my devices, aside from the built-in app on my TV which I can't remove and I never use. 
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v1ld posted:It was an alert from Android's location services saying the Health app has changed its declaration on what it would use the data for. The quoted change from the app explicitly mentioned 3rd parties for marketing, no mention of anonymizing the data first. I haven't had the same thing happen, but then again I've never given Samsung Health location permission.
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Nitrousoxide posted:I run all my internet traffic through pihole and Amazon, Samsung, and oddly enough Netflix are the biggest culprits. This is the tracker log for my weather app, Wunderground, on a particularly bad day:  I guess it cut off the last 7 tracker companies, but it gives an idea of this bullshit.
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Whats the new GWU like? The price is absolutely stupid, but the battery on my GW5P is starting to show its age a bit, and while better than the watch it replaced, its not all that smooth performance wise. They'll give me $190 CAD on trade in, but theres something up with the affirm financing and they cant confirm my address, which is probably a good thing.
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Performance of the GWU is great, probably the best on WearOS currently. Battery life is about the same as the Watch 5 Pro when new. Sensors appear to be accurate, especially GPS which the 5 Pro was really weak in. Battery still isn't as good as the OnePlus or Ticwatch with their respective tricks. Charging is being held back by being wireless since it's also the slowest changing of the bunch out there.
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Better late than never, Mobvoi has announced WearOS4 for the TicWatch Pro 5 before the end of the month.
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My Ticwatch Pro 5 got the WearOS 4 upgrade complete with the September security patch. It's probably the most up to date this watch will ever be.
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TheDK posted:E: Wrong thread I'm impressed by the sapphire glass on it. My Galaxy watch 4 classic was scratched up pretty quickly even though the display was recessed. But the OP Watch 2 display still looks spotless even though I'm a clumsy oaf who smacks his wrist on everything.
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