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jojoinnit
Dec 13, 2010

Strength and speed, that's why you're a special agent.


I mean if anyone's gonna know ^^^

E: oh gently caress you new page

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Lord of Pie
Mar 2, 2007




Bob Morales posted:



My stepdad is part of that RU poo poo at his church. Guess who he brings over every holiday for dinner? 2-3 of these loving weirdos. At Easter it was this fat 60 year old creep fresh out of the pen, did 5 years for loving a retarded kid when he was supposed to be giving him haircuts.

I know some people that failed hard out of every business idea they tried and declared bankruptcy, and they finally started their own church. Suddenly they're loving rich somehow. They spun their church into one of those get high on Jesus drug rehab things and rent the dope heads out for what basically amounts to slave labor because the program gets paid for the work the dopers do.

They used to show up for family get-togethers with some of their "students" in tow until they were told to quit bringing the meth heads around to case out grandma's house.

Blizzy_Cow
Feb 27, 2006
When one burns one's bridges, what a wonderful fire it makes

The Bible posted:

Leviticus 19:19
'You are to keep My statutes. You shall not breed together two kinds of your cattle; you shall not sow your field with two kinds of seed, nor wear a garment upon you of two kinds of material mixed together.'

It comes from the very same book that decries homosexuality (according to some very shaky translation), but it is hard to follow so they just ignore it.

What would life be like if they followed all the rules? I mean drat most people dont even follow rules at a pool amd those are reasonable the ones in the bible are stupid as gently caress

Hemingway To Go!
Nov 10, 2008

im stupider then dog shit, i dont give a shit, and i dont give a fuck, and i will never shut the fuck up, and i'll always Respect my enemys.
- ernest hemingway


leviticus is the "old law" which most pastors say we're delivered from having to follow but to them that just means we can eat hot dogs, they ignore that homosexuality is in there too

Whiskey Sours
Jan 25, 2014

Weather proof.


Acne Rain posted:

leviticus is the "old law" which most pastors say we're delivered from having to follow but to them that just means we can eat hot dogs, they ignore that homosexuality is in there too

John 69:420 posted:

And Jesus said "God hates fags, but also muslims and Mexicans."

Fiend
Dec 2, 2001


and they hated all who were not white, and beautiful baby Jesus saw that this was good and blessed the Floridaites with Ar15's, and NASCAR, and high fructose corn syrup.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat



Grimey Drawer

Blizzy_Cow posted:

What would life be like if they followed all the rules? I mean drat most people dont even follow rules at a pool amd those are reasonable the ones in the bible are stupid as gently caress

A lot of those rules were to keep people from dying. Like not eating pork. It's a whole lot easier to tell people it's a sin rather than learning how to properly cook it.

Homosexuality was probably similar. Back then you needed all the kids your poor tired uterus could pump out and a man pulling his pud out behind a tent, or worse yet getting another guy to pull his pud meant two less men putting babies in bellies.

Other rules were probably like Van Halen's "no brown M&M's" rule. Not important in and of themselves, but meant to make sure you were following all the other decrees.

And then there were the really important rules like not gathering sticks on Sundays. You really didn't want to get caught doing that.

Libelous Slander
May 1, 2009

... you're just creepy ...

Krispy Kareem posted:

not gathering sticks on Sundays. You really didn't want to get caught doing that.

guilty of acquiring faggots on a schoolnight

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007
"If you put a hamburger in the toaster it'll say Happy Birthday."




Labor camp?


quote:


Each student will serve as a volunteer in some fashion from 8-10 hours per day, and partial days on Saturdays. All work is considered donated services. Please understand that if you do not work as unto the Lord, you will not remain in the home. Proverbs 14:23 says, “in all labor there is profit” at Reformers Unanimous we believe work is God’s divine design for every man, and woman. Hard work develops character which is vital to making right decisions once you have finished with the program.

All students in the Discipleship Schools are required to maintain employment in the ministry, or with outside employers depending on particular job skills. These jobs enable students to learn hard work, character, and successfully coping with a real world environment, and remain stable. If you arrive without a strong work ethic, you will receive one while in this program. It may be one of the most important ingredients missing in your life.

Here are the 10 Principles


1. If God’s against it, so are we. Galatians 5:19-242.
2. Every sin has its origin in the heart. Jeremiah 17:9, Proverbs 4:23, Romans 13:14
3. It is easier to keep the heart clean than after it has been defiled. Proverbs 22:3 & 6:27-28
4. It is not possible to fight a fleshly appetite by indulging in it. Ecclesiastes 5:10, James 1:14-15
5. Small compromises lead to great disasters (or little sins lead to big sins). Luke 16:10, Matthew 6:24, Romans 6:16
6. Those who do not love the Lord will not help us serve the Lord. John 5:18-20, Proverbs 25:15
7. Our sinful habits do hurt those who are following us. Romans 14:7, I Corinthians 10:23-24
8. It is not possible to fight a fleshly temptation with fleshly weapons. II Corinthians 10:3-5, I John 4:4
9. We lose our freedom of choice after we have chosen our actions. The consequences of our choices are inevitable, incalculable and up to God. Proverbs 5:22-23, 20:17, 9:17-18
10. God balances guilt with blame. When we accept the blame for our actions, God, by our repentance and confession, will eliminate the guilt. I John 1:9

Mr Ice Cream Glove fucked around with this message at 16:05 on Aug 27, 2015

Vacation Tenzin
Jan 23, 2005

I'M TOTALLY CALM AND RELAXED.


Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

Labor camp?

“in all labor there is profit”


Work makes you free.

Max Hammer
Jan 3, 2008

ANTIFREEZE!!!


BrigadierSensible posted:

That's one of the things for me. Given his sheltered/isolated/fundie background, how did he manage to get the balls to go into a strip club and start chatting up the strippers?

The first time I went to the strippers, (I was 18), I was terrified. Now I know if I had been a repressed married arsehole instead of being a nervous timid teenager, one of them might have hosed me.

Well, you can seem pretty confident when you walk into the club and, in your mind, are above everyone there. The strippers flaunting their bodies all over the place for money, they're going straight to hell and should be kissing your feet for bringing them the word of our saviour, Jesus Christ.

The men, well they obviously have no self control, otherwise they would be at home forcing their wives to have sex with them, like good Christian men SHOULD do.

So when you walk in with that thought process, it might come off as confidence.

I don't know how the gently caress they looked past his JIM BOB face though.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!


Holy poo poo

http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/georgia-moms-letter-about-anna-duggar-goes-viral-on-facebook-2015258

quote:

The Southern mom attempted to empathize with the reality star mom of four. "What is Anna Duggar supposed to do? She can't divorce because the religious environment she was brought up would blame her and ostracize her for it," Kirkland wrote of Anna's predicament. "Even if she would risk that, she has no education and no work experience to fall back on, so how does she support her kids? From where could she summon the ability to turn her back on everything she ever held to be sacred and safe? Her beliefs, the very thing she would turn to for comfort in this kind of crisis, are the VERY REASON she is in this predicament in the first place. How can she reconcile this? Her parents have utterly, utterly failed her. Think of this: somewhere, Anna Duggar is sitting in prayer, praying not for the strength to get out and stand on her own, but for the strength to stand by this man she is unfortunately married to. To lower herself so that he may rise up on her back."

ElwoodCuse
Jan 11, 2004

we're puttin' the band back together

It should have been obvious long ago that the duggar cult was toxic and dangerous to everyone involved. The religious nutters were going to always support them no matter what but it was ridiculous to see so many other people saying stuff like "the kids aren't starving or bruised, I don't see the problem here"

Toadvine
Mar 16, 2009
Please disregard my advice w/r/t history.

Yahweh, this rider is so exacting but you put drat if you dont put on one hell of a show

EMILY BLUNTS
Jan 1, 2005



p.sure the corduroy sin sign is making fun of the other woman there with the serious sign

Astrofig
Oct 26, 2009


So apparently Josh Duggar is being sent to 'long-term rehabilitation'.

Odds that he molested one or both of his kids or another sibling and they're trying to get him out of the public eye before the news breaks?

Toadvine
Mar 16, 2009
Please disregard my advice w/r/t history.

Astrofig posted:

So apparently Josh Duggar is being sent to 'long-term rehabilitation'.

Odds that he molested one or both of his kids or another sibling and they're trying to get him out of the public eye before the news breaks?

hes derailing the gravy train and they need to keep him out of the public eye while they do damage control with their sponsors. Few sane people doubt there are more molestations (and not only by Josh's...hand) waiting in the wings, its just a matter of who leaks it.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!


Astrofig posted:

So apparently Josh Duggar is being sent to 'long-term rehabilitation'.

Odds that he molested one or both of his kids or another sibling and they're trying to get him out of the public eye before the news breaks?

Nope, he was bangin' a porn star and paying her for rough sex

http://wtkr.com/2015/08/26/josh-duggar-checks-into-rehab-amid-new-cheating-scandal/

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

RowboatMan: Freezing time is an old P.I. trick...



I legitimately feel bad for Anna; the only thing she did wrong here is marry Jackass Duggar without any sort of way out or backup plan. I wonder if, due to her 'celebrity' status, she could somehow get out from all of this?

resting mitch face
Apr 9, 2005

5) I hear you.

"...the family has a code word, "Nike," to help the men avoid lustful thoughts if an attractive woman crosses their path."

Josh apparently took this as "just do it."

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup


Pillbug

Astrofig posted:

So apparently Josh Duggar is being sent to 'long-term rehabilitation'.

Odds that he molested one or both of his kids or another sibling and they're trying to get him out of the public eye before the news breaks?

Odds on that the celeb rehab will have porn on its channels and he runs up thousands of dollars in viewing fees.
And Jim Bob will start a charity drive to pay for it.

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

i like cats


EMILY BLUNTS posted:

p.sure the corduroy sin sign is making fun of the other woman there with the serious sign

Yeah, it was just a joke about corduroy being a fashion sin. Corduroy itself doesn't need to be mixed fabrics.

http://thefbomb.org/2009/11/corduroy-skirts-are-a-sin/

Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007


Bob Morales posted:



My stepdad is part of that RU poo poo at his church. Guess who he brings over every holiday for dinner? 2-3 of these loving weirdos. At Easter it was this fat 60 year old creep fresh out of the pen, did 5 years for loving a retarded kid when he was supposed to be giving him haircuts.

Maybe the kid moved a lot. He might have just needed some better traction to deliver a quality cut.


As for the Levitical laws and the like, only the Jews were held to that standard in order to set an example for the world to look to. I you weren't an ethnic Jew, only the Ten Commandments applied. So the fundies aren't even looking at the right list of abolished commands. Really, the only commandments that apply today boil down to "accept Jesus' gift of paying the debt of your sin, which is (spiritual) death," and love your neighbor and your enemies as you would want to be loved in return. There's a reason Christianity got super-popular and that's because it cut through all the bullshit. Well, at least until we added back in old bullshit or made new bullshit to throw on top. The very core of Christianity was summed up by Bill and Ted, "be excellent to each other."

It hurts so much having been raised super fundie at times and looking in from the outside now. I was military brat that moved every two years or less till I was 18 and I got everything from ultra fundie southern baptist mixed with Mormon-lite(RLDS, or CoC now, how my mom was raised) to black gospel style,casual praise poo poo, Catholicism-lite(Lutheran) to fringe poo poo like Christian Science. That was confusing as gently caress as a child.

I couldn't have NOT taken a long hard look at my beliefs multiple times.

Decrepus
May 21, 2008

In the end, his dominion did not touch a single poster.


lol I live 10 minutes from Creekside

Mad Doctor Cthulhu
Mar 3, 2008

PH.D IN DARKNESS, M.A. IN MADNESS, B.A. IN TERROR (with a minor in Women's Studies)

Toadvine posted:

hes derailing the gravy train and they need to keep him out of the public eye while they do damage control with their sponsors. Few sane people doubt there are more molestations (and not only by Josh's...hand) waiting in the wings, its just a matter of who leaks it.

The gravy train was derailed: Jim Bob and his creepy brood were trying to do another show where they 'help' the victims of molestation before the whole Ashley Madison thing broke. At this point, it's worth asking 'what next?'

Bethamphetamine
Oct 29, 2012




College Slice

Mad Doctor Cthulhu posted:

The gravy train was derailed: Jim Bob and his creepy brood were trying to do another show where they 'help' the victims of molestation before the whole Ashley Madison thing broke. At this point, it's worth asking 'what next?'

In spite of them being a tax-free church, with as many kids as they have everything can go tits-up really fast without steady income.

And JIM BOB and michelle should be really thankful to Josh for taking the spotlight - their show about sexual abuse counseling would have been a disgusting trainwreck.

scuba school sucks
Aug 30, 2012

The brilliance of my posting illuminates the forums like a jar of shining gold when all around is dark

What do you mean "if" the preteen girl bears some responsibility for her molestation? She's a sinful harlot aka a woman, of course it's her fault!

Mr. Pumroy
May 20, 2001



i lust for tlc greenlighting a show where JIM BOB airs his real actual beliefs that its the victims fault

Mad Doctor Cthulhu
Mar 3, 2008

PH.D IN DARKNESS, M.A. IN MADNESS, B.A. IN TERROR (with a minor in Women's Studies)

Do It Once Right posted:

In spite of them being a tax-free church, with as many kids as they have everything can go tits-up really fast without steady income.

And JIM BOB and michelle should be really thankful to Josh for taking the spotlight - their show about sexual abuse counseling would have been a disgusting trainwreck.

Yeah, they're struggling without the show income. I remember reading that they were begging TLC for the sexual counseling show just to get a steady paycheck back. But I doubt TLC would want anything to do with them, especially on a show that brings back the whole issue and puts it front and center and just magnifies why these people are insanely creepy.

Josh molesting killed the show. Everything else Josh does after that is just sinking the religion and showing everybody how hosed up it is.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!


Mad Doctor Cthulhu posted:

Yeah, they're struggling without the show income. I remember reading that they were begging TLC for the sexual counseling show just to get a steady paycheck back. But I doubt TLC would want anything to do with them, especially on a show that brings back the whole issue and puts it front and center and just magnifies why these people are insanely creepy.

Josh molesting killed the show. Everything else Josh does after that is just sinking the religion and showing everybody how hosed up it is.

Also this is the 2nd show they've had to cancel for child abuse reasons. Honey Boo Boo was canned because Momma June was dating someone who diddled her older daughter.

BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

I don't mind taking charity,
From those that I despise

I was thinking about this. 19 kids takes a heavy financial toll. Especially when one of the parent's aren't allowed to work because of their sinful, inferior gender. Losing that TLC paycheck would have been a huge blow, even for a tax-exempt church like the Duggar family is.

They'll always have a fanbase of crazy fundies ready to throw money at them, but without the TV show, those fundies will quickly forget about them and throw their money away on the next Creflo E Dollar, or snake oil salesman that catches their eye. So I could see how they were desperate for their molestation show to go on.

Perhaps JimBob could make money on the personal appearance/speaking circuit, but that racket is pretty full already and after all of this I reckon there would be few, if any, places that would book him.

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

you can call
but I seldom answer after all




Bonzo posted:

Also this is the 2nd show they've had to cancel for child abuse reasons. Honey Boo Boo was canned because Momma June was dating someone who diddled her older daughter.

part of me hopes this ends up destroying TLC and someone comes in and buys it up and actually makes it a channel about learning again

I mean it once was right, I was raised a filthy hillbilly without cable so I never really watched it back in the day

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008


The learning channel

The Bible
May 8, 2010



Blizzy_Cow posted:

What would life be like if they followed all the rules? I mean drat most people dont even follow rules at a pool amd those are reasonable the ones in the bible are stupid as gently caress

Most would be serving life sentences in federal prison.

Acne Rain posted:

leviticus is the "old law" which most pastors say we're delivered from having to follow but to them that just means we can eat hot dogs, they ignore that homosexuality is in there too

Except it really isn't in there at all.

If they cared at all about what the Bible says, they'd grab a Hebrew parallel translation and a few good commentaries, where they would then learn that ancient Hebrew didn't even have a word for "homosexuality".

But hey, if English was good enough for Jesus...

The Bible fucked around with this message at 00:05 on Aug 28, 2015

imandyyo
Mar 19, 2012


There will be book deals to make money.

The Bible
May 8, 2010



Pvt.Scott posted:

The very core of Christianity was summed up by Bill and Ted, "be excellent to each other."

This isn't the core of Christianity at all. Being good to others doesn't result in salvation. This is explicitly stated several times in the Bible.

The core is that we are born sinners, and if we refuse to accept this, we deserve to be burned for eternity. The only way out is to allow an innocent man to be punished for your crimes.

Odd how often moderate Christians seem to forget that the Prince of Peace threatens disobedience with eternal torment in a Hell only he seems to be aware of.

max4me
Jun 15, 2003

by FactsAreUseless


Code Jockey posted:

part of me hopes this ends up destroying TLC and someone comes in and buys it up and actually makes it a channel about learning again

I mean it once was right, I was raised a filthy hillbilly without cable so I never really watched it back in the day

It used to be great I loved James burkes connections. There are hours of documentaries and educational programing but the really good stuff is the BBC catalog. The issue is why pay for airing rights for old stuff when you can make trashy reality poo poo for cheaper and it get s better ratings.

I wonder does Jim Bob have a handler who tells him not to say crazy poo poo. Cause I figure he would be running his mouth on all this.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!


So Josh is just basically at a Bible labor camp, not an actual rehab place.

http://gawker.com/josh-duggar-s-sex-rehab-is-probably-just-another-chri-1726747380

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

you can call
but I seldom answer after all




I will be incredibly, incredibly surprised if none of them suffer massive breakdowns and suicide over this. obvs I don't want that because that's horrible but you take people so totally emotionally and mentally broken then shove in their face how broken they are, and welp


max4me posted:

It used to be great I loved James burkes connections. There are hours of documentaries and educational programing but the really good stuff is the BBC catalog. The issue is why pay for airing rights for old stuff when you can make trashy reality poo poo for cheaper and it get s better ratings.

I wonder does Jim Bob have a handler who tells him not to say crazy poo poo. Cause I figure he would be running his mouth on all this.

yeah the BBC rules

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The Bible
May 8, 2010



The sexual abuse counseling show is a really weird idea. Are any of the Duggars even trained in that? It really seems like the sort of thing you don't want to toss to complete amateurs to fumble their way through.

Especially on TV.

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