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Robotnik Nudes
Jul 8, 2013



So am I the only one who doesn't really have much sympathy for Anna and the rest of the Duggar Ovary Housing Meat Machines?


Lol what a dummy.

I hope she doesn't escape the purge.

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Chinatown
Sep 11, 2001

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Clochette
Aug 12, 2013



Robotnik Nudes posted:

So am I the only one who doesn't really have much sympathy for Anna and the rest of the Duggar Ovary Housing Meat Machines?


Lol what a dummy.

I hope she doesn't escape the purge.

From the article you quoted:

quote:

"It definitely wasn't portrayed in its entirety," says the source. "I don't think she understood the entirety of what had happened. It was kind of something that was swept under the rug and nobody made a big deal out of it."

Htom Sirveaux
Dec 16, 2005


PassTheRemote posted:

Does that mean Josh plays the part of Ricktus Erectus?

I HAD A BABY BROTHER SISTER! AND HE SHE WAS PERFECT FOR DIDDLING IN EVERY WAY!

Htom Sirveaux fucked around with this message at 23:01 on Aug 28, 2015

Geoj
May 28, 2008

BITTER POOR PERSON


Robotnik Nudes posted:

So am I the only one who doesn't really have much sympathy for Anna and the rest of the Duggar Ovary Housing Meat Machines?

If you consider that since birth women born into a quiverfull family have been raised to be little more than brood mares you really can't help but feel sorry for them.

Realistically what are her options? She has no real life skills and has been taught since she was old enough to speak that she is to be subservient to men at all times.

PassTheRemote
Mar 15, 2007

Number 6 holds The Village record in Duck Hunt.

The first one to kill wins.

Robotnik Nudes posted:

So am I the only one who doesn't really have much sympathy for Anna and the rest of the Duggar Ovary Housing Meat Machines?


Lol what a dummy.

I hope she doesn't escape the purge.

I feel bad for her. If the article to accurate, it seems the Duggars were not as forthcoming about Josh's duggaring, and she seems to still be controlled by her parents. Even if she was to escape, she has no education, her parents probably have the homeschooling GED certificates with them, and if she leaves, they will be petty assholes and deny her that (I have a friend who was from a community that while not as ultra right wing as the Duggars, knew of Quiverfull people who escaped and had that happen to them).

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


Switchblade Switcharoo

The Amish are cooler to you when you leave.

Robotnik Nudes
Jul 8, 2013



Her life sucks but she's run with it and supported making other people's lives suck. I feel bad for her upbringing and what made her the lovely person she is today, but she exists as a lovely bad person and her tragic past explains why she's a lovely person but doesn't do much to excuse her imo

Tardigrade
Jul 13, 2012

Half arthropod, half marshmallow, all cute.

Geoj posted:

The "...and I would have gotten away with it too, if it wasn't for you diddling kids!" catchphrase would go well with that show.

Crusty Nutsack
Apr 21, 2005

SUCK LASER, COPPERS

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Robotnik Nudes posted:

Her life sucks but she's run with it and supported making other people's lives suck. I feel bad for her upbringing and what made her the lovely person she is today, but she exists as a lovely bad person and her tragic past explains why she's a lovely person but doesn't do much to excuse her imo

she's not the one that diddled kids and cheated on her spouse?????


I mean you can certainly argue that she's stupid or something maybe but I dunno man you stupid

Cuveball Sliders
Oct 9, 2007


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art..._dailymailceleb

article synopsis posted:

Anna Duggar has four children with husband of nearly seven years, Josh
She will likely 'on some level... absorb some of the blame' for spouse's admitted infidelity and secret pornography addiction, family insider says
There is also 'no way' she will leave reality star - despite the new scandal
Anna 'is fully committed to her marriage and children,' the insider claims
If Anna has been adhering to her mom-in-law Michelle's top marriage tip, she will have said 'yes' to sex whenever Josh, 27, has wished to have it
Michelle has said she does not deny husband Jim Bob sex, even if tired
There are exceptions, however; Michelle does not have sex for 80 days after birth of daughter, for 40 days after birth of son, or when on period
Josh admitted on Thursday to being unfaithful to his wife and having an addiction to online porn in statement that followed Ashley Madison hack

It's like clockwork with these assholes, you have to admire the consistency if nothing else. What would Josh have to do for christians to say "that one was all on him"?

jerk off on himself

Decrepus
May 21, 2008

In the end, his dominion did not touch a single poster.


Anna give up the booty hole

This is God

Geoj
May 28, 2008

BITTER POOR PERSON


McFetusBurger posted:

What would Josh have to do for christians to say "that one was all on him"?

As fundamentalist christians I don't think there is anything he could do to turn them against him. He's already forgiven by god, and god's laws trump man's laws, judgment is not their's to make and therefore all is forgiven.

Mercury_Storm
Jun 12, 2003

*chomp chomp chomp*


Geoj posted:

As fundamentalist christians I don't think there is anything he could do to turn them against him. He's already forgiven by god, and god's laws trump man's laws, judgment is not their's to make and therefore all is forgiven.

He could come out as gay or trans, that would make them turn against him real goddamn quick. Not that it's going to happen, but in the hypothetical universe where he did do so, for whatever reason, he would be un-personed by the evangelical community overnight.

Mercury_Storm fucked around with this message at 00:52 on Aug 29, 2015

The Bible
May 8, 2010



PassTheRemote posted:

I feel bad for her. If the article to accurate, it seems the Duggars were not as forthcoming about Josh's duggaring, and she seems to still be controlled by her parents. Even if she was to escape, she has no education, her parents probably have the homeschooling GED certificates with them, and if she leaves, they will be petty assholes and deny her that (I have a friend who was from a community that while not as ultra right wing as the Duggars, knew of Quiverfull people who escaped and had that happen to them).

She has worse than no education. She has a fundamentalist religious education.

No education would be a much better place to start. As it is, to even hope for a normal, decent education, she has to unlearn all the garbage "Creation Science" and other various homeschool bullshit she's been fed since she could comprehend speech.

Amarcarts
Feb 21, 2007

This looks a lot like suffering.


"No mercy for the misguided" -Sgt. Tarkus

Cuveball Sliders
Oct 9, 2007


Mercury_Storm posted:

He could come out as gay or trans, that would make them turn against him real goddamn quick. Not that it's going to happen, but in the hypothetical universe where he did do so, for whatever reason, he would be un-personed by the evangelical community overnight.

But some of these guys have literally been caught red handed at truck stops and they just said "c'mon guys, aren't we all sinners?" and got a bunch of money to go to rehab.

Maybe if he came out as transgender, but I'm only saying that because to my knowledge it has never happened and I can't imagine any argument that could possibly reconcile their lovely beliefs with accepting him. I'm sure they'd still blame Anna though

Amarcarts
Feb 21, 2007

This looks a lot like suffering.


I feel like at some point some of us normies should sit down and have a talk with the Duggars and let them know it's their religion that's causing this. We're so used to fundies resisting maybe we occasionally forget to lay it out there to begin with.

Mercury_Storm
Jun 12, 2003

*chomp chomp chomp*


McFetusBurger posted:

But some of these guys have literally been caught red handed at truck stops and they just said "c'mon guys, aren't we all sinners?" and got a bunch of money to go to rehab.

Maybe if he came out as transgender, but I'm only saying that because to my knowledge it has never happened and I can't imagine any argument that could possibly reconcile their lovely beliefs with accepting him. I'm sure they'd still blame Anna though

Well if he got caught banging dudes or whatever, yeah he could just say "Oh I'm not REALLY gay I was just tempted by the great devil Lucifer Satan Jr. to perform those heinous acts!" and that would be that. I think this would probably still lose him a lot of people though.

It's if he actually came out saying "HEY GUYS I'm gay and loving it!" that's what would be the complete end of his gravy train.

Lord of Pie
Mar 2, 2007




He could get caught balls deep in Josiah and they'd just send them off to pray the gay away

Cuveball Sliders
Oct 9, 2007


Mercury_Storm posted:

It's if he actually came out saying "HEY GUYS I'm gay and loving it!" that's what would be the complete end of his gravy train.

And the beginning of the man gravy train

The Bible
May 8, 2010



Amarcarts posted:

I feel like at some point some of us normies should sit down and have a talk with the Duggars and let them know it's their religion that's causing this. We're so used to fundies resisting maybe we occasionally forget to lay it out there to begin with.

They more or less admitted this themselves when they stated on TV that sibling molestation is pretty common in their cult.

Of course, they seemed to assume that means it is common everywhere, and just didn't really get that it really, really isn't.

Panty Saluter
Jan 17, 2004

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Jonny 290 posted:

they're starting to grow up and marry off

if we get 15 of them having 15 kids each of whom have 15 kids we could have 3600 Duggars on the planet within 40 years

suddenly i understand why people want full auto firearms to be widely available

Toadvine
Mar 16, 2009
Please disregard my advice w/r/t history.

quiverfull families aren't taking over anytime soon because theyre all dirt filthy poor. kids are expensive to feed and clothe let alone arm and train for insurrection.

If they were smart they'd form collectivist compounds to raise their food and school their kids but if they were smart they wouldn't be christian fundamentalists.

skaboomizzy
Nov 12, 2003

There is nothing I want to be. There is nothing I want to do.
I don't even have an image of what I want to be. I have nothing. All that exists is zero.

Grimey Drawer

If you got two or more of those delusional broods living together they'd be waging holy war on each other within weeks

So I am fully in favor of the Duggars and whatever other diddling lunatic family they can find going off to Idaho or wherever and seeing what kind of holy warrior bullshit they can come up with

Cuveball Sliders
Oct 9, 2007


Toadvine posted:

If they were smart they'd form collectivist compounds to raise their food and school their kids but if they were smart they wouldn't be christian fundamentalists.

You don't think these guys are smart? They've created and gotten people to buy into a system that essentially gives them free reign to do whatever they want to whoever they want, and they always have a fall guy in jesus, the devil, or their wives. They're manipulative, egomaniacal, backwards pieces of poo poo, but one thing they aren't is stupid.

I mean Josh Duggar paid for an account on a website whose sole purpose is helping people have affairs, hosed a porn star, developed a porn addiction, sought relationships with strippers, and nationally disgraced the frc, and yet his wife is taking the blame for all of it for not "providing counseling" and opening her legs every time he demanded it. She would be taking this blame literally no matter what she had done to help with his "stress". Josh is going to get a bunch of months in a religious resort while she is left to raise and support the children, and dutifully wait for him to come back so she can try to be a better wife. This is normal to them, system working as intended.

That is just absolutely sick loving evil genius

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007
"If you put a hamburger in the toaster it'll say Happy Birthday."




quote:

We are all shocked and broken and furious," one member of the Duggar family says. "Who did we spend Christmases with? Who have we grown up with? Who is this person? This is supposed to be a happy time, and there is a dark cloud over our family."

"Josh’s integrity is gone," the family member continues. "It’s scary. You never know who can have a double life. You really think you know someone. Josh was caught with his hand in the cookie jar and I hope he gets broken in rehab and gets the help he needs. I hope Anna finds the strength to make some changes."


http://www.etonline.com/news/170797...s_broken_rehab/

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

RowboatMan: Freezing time is an old P.I. trick...


Did he really have sex with that porn star, though? I thought that was fake.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008


Rupert Buttermilk posted:

Did he really have sex with that porn star, though? I thought that was fake.

I thought the checking into rehab shortly after the Danica Dillon story came out was a tacit admission.

Toadvine
Mar 16, 2009
Please disregard my advice w/r/t history.

McFetusBurger posted:

You don't think these guys are smart? They've created and gotten people to buy into a system that essentially gives them free reign to do whatever they want to whoever they want, and they always have a fall guy in jesus, the devil, or their wives. They're manipulative, egomaniacal, backwards pieces of poo poo, but one thing they aren't is stupid.

I mean Josh Duggar paid for an account on a website whose sole purpose is helping people have affairs, hosed a porn star, developed a porn addiction, sought relationships with strippers, and nationally disgraced the frc, and yet his wife is taking the blame for all of it for not "providing counseling" and opening her legs every time he demanded it. She would be taking this blame literally no matter what she had done to help with his "stress". Josh is going to get a bunch of months in a religious resort while she is left to raise and support the children, and dutifully wait for him to come back so she can try to be a better wife. This is normal to them, system working as intended.

That is just absolutely sick loving evil genius

this is one strangely successful family, there are hundreds of other quiverfull families packed into trailers barely scratching out a living. I think you're attributing genius to manipulative behavior. people have been subservient for all time, doesnt mean their abuser is particularly smart.

if they can pull out of this nosedive I'll reconsider, but until then, they're stupid. (and they're at least stupidly shortsighted if they let one sex abuse scandal disrupt their scam)

Toadvine fucked around with this message at 03:27 on Aug 29, 2015

Cuveball Sliders
Oct 9, 2007


Toadvine posted:

this is one strangely successful family, there are hundreds of other quiverfull families packed into trailers barely scratching out a living. I think you're attributing genius to manipulative behavior. people have been subservient for all time, doesnt mean their abuser is particularly smart.

if they can pull out of this nosedive I'll reconsider, but until then, they're stupid. (and they're at least stupidly shortsighted if they let one sex abuse scandal disrupt their scam)

John Q Mudhut trying to raise 12 kids working as a wal mart stocker is clearly dumb because he buys into the whole quiverfull thing. Jim Bob and Michelle just want to keep the free stuff rolling in, and all the repugnant poo poo they've said since the crisis has been to reinforce their status as spiritual and village leaders in their own community. As far as we can tell this is working. They've somehow managed to come off looking like the victims to their christian fundamentalist crowd. Faultless victims that is, so their spiritual power is through the roof now.

Also Josh is dumb because he just inherited the name and went hog wild

Edit: Maybe genius is hyperbole, but manipulation takes a type of intelligence. They probably suck at Kerbal Space Program though

Cuveball Sliders fucked around with this message at 04:09 on Aug 29, 2015

Toadvine
Mar 16, 2009
Please disregard my advice w/r/t history.

Josh could have made bank off of the family name if he pulled his head out of his sisters' asses years ago and found an appropriate, easily concealable outlet for his sexual frustration like I'm sure all the fundamentalist leaders have.

As for JimBob and Michelle, I'm torn between believing they masterminded this scheme with the intent to stay in the money, but if that were the case they wouldn't have tried to build an organization on a foundation of sexually repressed children with evidently zero self control.

Fur20
Nov 14, 2007

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McFetusBurger posted:

Edit: Maybe genius is hyperbole, but manipulation takes a type of intelligence. They probably suck at Kerbal Space Program though

if i was a betting man, i'd err on the side of "he inherited a psycho cult way of life and then got a luck-out beverly hillbillies fortune when TLC asked to make a TV show out of him." you wouldn't call the grand wizard of the mormon church a genius or a manipulator, he ultimately inherited his followers from joseph smith. whoever actually started it was a smart motherfucker though

Antifa Turkeesian
Aug 20, 2006



The White Dragon posted:

if i was a betting man, i'd err on the side of "he inherited a psycho cult way of life and then got a luck-out beverly hillbillies fortune when TLC asked to make a TV show out of him." you wouldn't call the grand wizard of the mormon church a genius or a manipulator, he ultimately inherited his followers from joseph smith. whoever actually started it was a smart motherfucker though

It's like the cult in True Detective. Jim Bob is that fat dead preacher and the kid is the methhead lawnmower man.

Toadvine
Mar 16, 2009
Please disregard my advice w/r/t history.

Jack Gladney posted:

It's like the cult in True Detective. Jim Bob is that fat dead preacher and the kid is the methhead lawnmower man.

hey thats prob not far off. For all the abuse that came to light there are ten more instances we'll never know

Geoj
May 28, 2008

BITTER POOR PERSON


Mercury_Storm posted:

He could come out as gay or trans, that would make them turn against him real goddamn quick. Not that it's going to happen, but in the hypothetical universe where he did do so, for whatever reason, he would be un-personed by the evangelical community overnight.

If he was unrepentant about it, sure, but I think the rubes that follow them wouldn't bat an eye at Josh being caught every other month sucking random guys' dicks at the local adult movie theater while high on ecstasy as long as he did the song and dance of apologizing, doing a marathon prayer session or three and/or going off to christian reparative therapy camp for a few weeks.

If these people handwaved away literal child rape why would they give two shits about consensual sex between two (or more) adults?

Indubitable Leg
Aug 9, 2013


Geoj posted:

If these people handwaved away literal child rape why would they give two shits about consensual sex between two (or more) adults?

You've committed the sin of thinking raping female children is worse than same sex intercourse for them. It's ok we all made that mistake when we thought they were somewhat reasonable.

Soup du Journey
Mar 20, 2006



The Bible posted:

They more or less admitted this themselves when they stated on TV that sibling molestation is pretty common in their cult.

Of course, they seemed to assume that means it is common everywhere, and just didn't really get that it really, really isn't.
ask your social worker friends to tell you how rare incest and child abuse are

scuba school sucks
Aug 30, 2012

The brilliance of my posting illuminates the forums like a jar of shining gold when all around is dark

Geoj posted:

You could pretty much write him into Mad Max: Fury Road playing the role of Immortan Joe - only with far more imperfect children.

Immortan Joe let the women in his cult read more than just the one book though.

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ElwoodCuse
Jan 11, 2004

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Toadvine posted:

this is one strangely successful family, there are hundreds of other quiverfull families packed into trailers barely scratching out a living.

This was them before the show and even early into it they were still all about thrift shop clothes and feeding the whole family subsistence-level garbage from Aldi. Then TV built them a house and got them all stylists.

Josh became a hilarious tubbo once he got out on the road and eating chickfila twice a day.

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