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Fog Tripper
Mar 3, 2008

by Smythe

A Steampunk Gent posted:

Don't watch previews then (and stop being such a baby about spoilers)

Fog Tripper posted:

launching directly into previews

I will strive to be manly as you

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King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

You think you can take me at Satan's Hollow? Go 'head on!

How Darwinian posted:

I never said the last three episodes are a dream. Hannibal is really in Florence and really killing people. Jack is really following up the leads. But Will is in Hannibal's mind palace. That doesn't make it all a dream. It just means that Will knows Hannibal so well that he can literally invade his mind. That's pushing the bounds of the supernatural, but Hannibal has never seemed to have a problem with that in the past anyway.

You didn't directly say that but what you posted here...

quote:

Why is Will chasing Hannibal all on his own, and improbably jet-setting across Europe? Why was Abigail visible to the priest in the cathedral? How did Hannibal jet over to Palermo from Florence and back in time for dinner, without even knowing when Will would get there? Why does Jack say he is "here for Will", and the detective doesn't seem to mention having just spoken to Will a few days ago?

...seemed to suggest that you believed that Will never actually traveled to Europe, and never spoke to Pazzi.

How Darwinian
Feb 27, 2011

King Vidiot posted:

You didn't directly say that but what you posted here...


...seemed to suggest that you believed that Will never actually traveled to Europe, and never spoke to Pazzi.

Ahh, let me clarify then. Yes. I don't think Will ever traveled to Europe. Jack did though. Will's scenes with Pazzi took place in Hannibal's mind palace. Jack's scene with Pazzi took place in the real world.

Jack said he is "here for Will", which could mean he is chasing him, or it could mean he is there on his behalf. I think it's the latter.

Will being in Hannibal's mind palace doesn't mean that it's all a dream. If it were a dream then it would be internal to Will and of no consequence to anyone. If Will is in Hannibal's mind palace then what is happening is happening between Hannibal and Will.

Elderbean
Jun 10, 2013


If will never traveled to Europe then his whole transformation bit at the end of the episode meant nothing.

showbiz_liz
Jun 2, 2008

massive spider posted:

I was totally confused by the mischa stuff because I couldn't remember if the series has mentioned her before and if the story is the same as book canon hannibal. Book hannibal did eat mischa, but in the context she was fed to him unwillingly. Is show h annibal implying he just killed her outright?

I think they left it deliberately ambiguous in this episode. It may be clarified later on.

On another note, of loving course Will actually went to Europe and actually met Pazzi and Chiyoh.

showbiz_liz
Jun 2, 2008

How Darwinian posted:

If Will is in Hannibal's mind palace then what is happening is happening between Hannibal and Will.

No. It wouldn't mean that. It would mean it was happening inside Hannibal's head and Will had nothing to do with it whatsoever.

So you think the whole thing with Will saying he forgive Hannibal, and Hannibal having an emo breakdown about it to Bedelia, was all just Hannibal being delusional and pretending or imagining that he saw and heard Will? And Abigail was actually inside of fake Will's head inside of Hannibal's head? And all that crap with Will crouching in the woods avoiding Chiyoh was actually just Hannibal's imagination? What possible narrative purpose would any of that serve?

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.
Soiled Meat
Maybe this is how Will and Hannibal are battling each other, except instead of swords they're swinging forks and spoons at each other


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AeeoEpmyb2Y

zoux
Apr 28, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 9 hours!
Bad news guys.

HIJK
Nov 25, 2012
in the room where you sleep
Hannibal is a trippy show but I don't think telepathy is part of its bag of tricks.


Sounds like a good time for Amazon Prime to pick up the slack!

EmmyOk
Aug 11, 2013


Fuller took it well

Bryan Fuller posted:

NBC has allowed us to craft a television series that no other broadcast network would have dared, and kept us on the air for three seasons despite Cancellation Bear Chow ratings and images that would have shredded the eyeballs of lesser Standards & Practices enforcers

showbiz_liz
Jun 2, 2008
Now I guess we'll see if all that stuff about other networks lining up to take it if it got dropped was true.

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


Yeah, can't say I didn't see that coming.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 9 hours!
Hopefully they won't yank it before everything has aired.

ex post facho
Oct 25, 2007

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Ah, yes, NBC must make room for a remake of Coach, another police procedural (starring Jennifer Lopez, no less) named Shades of Blue, Superstore, The Voice and a litany of other boring rote poo poo that appeals to the mouthbreathing Coke-swilling American demo

I knew Hannibal was too good for network tv for a while so here's hoping Netflix/Prime/Hulu picks it up

showbiz_liz
Jun 2, 2008

zoux posted:

Hopefully they won't yank it before everything has aired.

I doubt they would. They've been surprisingly supportive, all things considered.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

by vyelkin

EmmyOk posted:

Fuller took it well

He had to know this was coming, considering him cramming Red Dragon into the back half of this season instead of it being all of season 4 as he originally intended.

right to bear karma
Feb 20, 2001

There's a Dr. Fist here to see you.
I would have hoped they would wait a little longer, but definitely not a shock. I really hope someone else picks them up.

How Darwinian
Feb 27, 2011

showbiz_liz posted:

No. It wouldn't mean that. It would mean it was happening inside Hannibal's head and Will had nothing to do with it whatsoever.

So you think the whole thing with Will saying he forgive Hannibal, and Hannibal having an emo breakdown about it to Bedelia, was all just Hannibal being delusional and pretending or imagining that he saw and heard Will? And Abigail was actually inside of fake Will's head inside of Hannibal's head? And all that crap with Will crouching in the woods avoiding Chiyoh was actually just Hannibal's imagination? What possible narrative purpose would any of that serve?

How Darwinian posted:


collective unconscious.

BreakAtmo
May 16, 2009

Timby posted:

He had to know this was coming, considering him cramming Red Dragon into the back half of this season instead of it being all of season 4 as he originally intended.

Pretty sure he said that was because the material wasn't enough for 2 whole seasons. I mean, it might have been a smokescreen, but it might not have, too.

I'm not super worried about the cancellation - I think we will probably see Amazon or some similar outlet pick it up.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

by vyelkin

BreakAtmo posted:

Pretty sure he said that was because the material wasn't enough for 2 whole seasons. I mean, it might have been a smokescreen, but it might not have, too.

Back when the show started, Fuller said his original plan was to do Red Dragon in 4, Silence of the Lambs in 5 if they ever got the rights from MGM, and then a wrap-up in season 6. That was the original road map, anyway.

BreakAtmo
May 16, 2009

Timby posted:

Back when the show started, Fuller said his original plan was to do Red Dragon in 4, Silence of the Lambs in 5 if they ever got the rights from MGM, and then a wrap-up in season 6. That was the original road map, anyway.

Actually that was a revised version. The original plan was 3 seasons of prequel, then Seasons 4/5/6 adapting the books in chronological order, and then the new ending in S7.

Gloomiebat
Sep 16, 2005

You are made of boron
I will be so upset if this show doesn't get picked up by Netflix or something. It's just too good to let die.

At least they're going to air the rest of this season which is a blessing.

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?

Gloomiebat posted:

I will be so upset if this show doesn't get picked up by Netflix or something. It's just too good to let die.

At least they're going to air the rest of this season which is a blessing.

Its picked up by lifetime so they can use the silence of the lamb characters.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 9 hours!
The monkey paw outcome here is that Hulu picks it up :stonk:

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?
Doesn't Amazon already have a deal with Hannibal in regards to streaming?

Riled Shareef
Dec 19, 2013

bobkatt013 posted:

Its picked up by lifetime so they can use the silence of the lamb characters.

This would be nothing short of perfect. The Hannibal we know and love being aired on Lifetime.

Slamhound
Mar 27, 2010

zoux posted:

The monkey paw outcome here is that Hulu picks it up :stonk:

They could do a crossover with Deadbeat!

Parachute
May 18, 2003
Isn't Fuller going to be working on that American Gods adaptation very soon? Would he still be the show runner on a (hypothetical) season 4 of Hannibal?

Dr_Strangelove
Dec 16, 2003

Mein Fuhrer! THEY WON!

Well, gently caress. :mad:

Look Sir Droids
Jan 27, 2015

The tracks go off in this direction.
Goddamnit. :(

Wiggy Marie
Jan 16, 2006

Meep!
Welp NBC, that's me told.

Still, I was most interested in Red Dragon so at least we'll get to see that! Amazon Prime does indeed already have a streaming deal, and I would be hella happy if they picked it up because it's easy to access and also that is the only account I have of the Hulu/Netflix/Prime triumvirate.

I am old and behind the times, yes.

el oso
Feb 18, 2005

phew, for a minute there i lost myself
I'm strangely not too worried about it - it seems like a prime pickup for Netflix/Amazon/Etc.

ex post facho
Oct 25, 2007

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Whether or not it gets picked up anywhere else, season 1 and 2 (especially the conclusion of 2) was the best television I've seen on a network for a long time. I tried watching an episode of Scandal recently and while not laughing at the absurdity of the script, composition, or dialogue, was trying to determine how the editor and cinematographer decided that having every third shot appear through a prism was a great framing technique.

Hannibal has ruined all other TV for me, it all seems like banal poo poo.

Everyone ready for another season of The Voice?!?!

hope and vaseline
Feb 13, 2001

el oso posted:

I'm strangely not too worried about it - it seems like a prime pickup for Netflix/Amazon/Etc.

Yeah same. Either or, this season is going to be a natural ending point, and if it continues in a streaming format, then awesome, otherwise we'd have gotten 3 seasons of really fantastic television really unlike anything else out there.

Noirex
May 30, 2006

@DeLaurentiisCo:
2015-06-22 21:22:26 UTC
#Hannibal was always in danger of cancellation due to subject matter, and others have expressed interest in partnering with us.

I'm not too worried, this isn't a real shock to anyone and I remember Bryan Fuller mentioning Amazon being keen to pick them up should NBC cancel.

Astrofig
Oct 26, 2009
Yeah, I bet it won't get picked up. Call me pessimistic but I just have that feeling.

EmmyOk
Aug 11, 2013

I am happy with three seasons of great TV. It'd be great if it was picked up but even if it isn't, I'm happy we got what we did.

Matinee
Sep 15, 2007

Is all of Season 3 in the can? I know Fuller et al write each season as if it's the last (despite the cliffhanger stinger at the end of season 2) but It will be interesting to see just what the timbre of finality will be with this season.

Rabbit Hill
Mar 11, 2009

God knows what lives in me in place of me.
Grimey Drawer
Well, at least it will end on a positive note: Hannibal suffering! :neckbeard:

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Deakul
Apr 2, 2012

PAM PA RAM

PAM PAM PARAAAAM!

Heart crushed. :negative:

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