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Jose Oquendo posted:Also did Will totally sail all the way from Maryland(?) to Europe? Makes perfect sense. It's probably the only way he'd get there undetected by anyone including Hannibal. 
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FourLeaf posted:This shows how the actress definitely has a whole new look for this season representing her change. Way more makeup, dramatically red lipstick. A way less natural look than before. In that last pic her face almost looks rubbery. It probably symbolizes how she's been forced to harden and develop barriers between herself and other people rather than staying vulnerable and being utterly manipulated. Possibly also foreshadowing for ulterior motives Alana has in helping Mason. That last scene and close up was very creepy. Her whole face especially the eyes looked inhuman.
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Sub Rosa posted:I wish more people had died at the end of Season 2. I'm sure a lot of those people would agree with you. Molly Graham confirmed this season. And it's Nina Arianda who's cast, aka Hugh Dancy's costar in Venus in Fur. I hope I'm not the only one laughing my rear end off at this news. 
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H.P. Shivcraft posted:I like how in the novels and films, Chilton is just kind of this comedic relief rear end in a top hat you're supposed to write off. Esparza's performance early on was a close stylistic echo of Anthony Heald's, but while the show has not relented on making him an rear end in a top hat or, really, comedic relief, by giving him this established grudge against Hannibal the character's taken on an interesting edge that recontextualizes what reads as simple pettiness in the source material (lording his power over Hannibal, taking his books, treated him like a show dog, etc). The Chilton we've met would do that regardless of whether or not he has any personal vendetta against Hannibal. He's always been an rear end in a top hat but the fact that he still has plans to put Hannibal in his mental hospital and treat him like Hanu the serial killer 
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ruddiger posted:I hope we get more of Zombie Ghost Abigail. Her and Will sharing a smile while sitting on the floor last episode was adorable. I'm getting crazy Jack from American Werewolf in London vibes from her post-"she's dead"-reveal scenes. It'd be great if she was a permanent part of Will's psyche now.
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hope and vaseline posted:It'd be great if she was a permanent part of Will's psyche now. Her dad showed up in Will's brain after he died in like 8 or 9 episodes, so it would be pretty perfect if she replaced him.
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Jun 28, 2015 03:56
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I hate that this is one of those shows where everyone talks in whispers but then the music and bass is really loud so I have to constantly lower and raise the volume.
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I've gotten used to Mads' accent like 2 seasons ago but Will talking so gently like he's creeping across the thinnest of ices lately has me fiddling with the volume control and/or subtitles this season.
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I know I'm alone here, but I'm sick of Will's fragmented reality. Enough already, we've seen Hannibal gut you like 4 times.
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The show is starting to feel a little indulgent at this point so I wouldn't mind it if they reeled things back in a bit.
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TOOT BOOT posted:The show is starting to feel a little indulgent at this point so I wouldn't mind it if they reeled things back in a bit. Agreed. That's why I liked this episode a lot more than the last three.
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Jun 28, 2015 08:47
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Part of the problem with the repeats and the slow motion sequences, is probably down to the crew having fewer days to film each episode this year. They were from shooting each episode in eight days to having to shoot one in seven. Hence the padding, I assume. Fuller apparently fought for the extra day of filming and got it back, but only for the second half / arc of the season.
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Huh, I'm actually surprised that Amazon had an exclusivity contract with the show. Hannibal has been available to stream on Netflix Canada for a while now. It's actually how I first watched it. Hopefully, if Amazon passes on it (which dubious sources such as http://renewcanceltv.com/hannibal-amazon-passes-on-chance-to-save-series/ are taking their canned response to any series request as ), Netflix will be able to take the reigns. Netflix already has several series produced by Gaumont, which may ensures they stay on as financers.
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PostNouveau posted:I know I'm alone here, but I'm sick of Will's fragmented reality. Enough already, we've seen Hannibal gut you like 4 times. You're not alone. Also I don't need to see more light blooms while a the soundtrack blares somebody plucking a single note on a cello followed by a water drop sound and then we see blood splatter in reverse. I now go into each episode expecting it to just be a close-up shot of Mads crying a single tear in slow motion and then the tear turns into blood while faux Penderecki plays in the background ... for 42 minutes.
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Dragas posted:Didn't see this mentioned, but the inscription on Mischa's grave just says "loved". The five stars afterwards had worn down before Will got there.
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PostNouveau posted:I know I'm alone here, but I'm sick of Will's fragmented reality. Enough already, we've seen Hannibal gut you like 4 times. I've been annoyed with it since that in-show tease about the fight with hannibal from season 2 and it's just gotten intolerable since season 3 started.
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DarklyDreaming posted:The Chilton we've met would do that regardless of whether or not he has any personal vendetta against Hannibal. He's always been an rear end in a top hat but the fact that he still has plans to put Hannibal in his mental hospital and treat him like Hanu the serial killer Chilton's just good enough a shrink (and willing to get unethical) to mess with Gideon's head and convince him that he was The Ripper so that Dr Chilton could get attention for himself. He's a mediocre criminal pathologist and everyone knows it. Will and Alana walked in there in season one, eyes rolling at his arrogance and dubious practices. Hannibal knows he's pathetic at his job and tried to use him, bonding over their use of "unorthodox" treatment methods. It's going to be all the more bitter when Hannibal has to endure the annoyance of said treatments and talk therapy for article fodder. It's sooo hard to go to your elegant mind palace while on psychoactive drugs under strobe lights whilst being chatted to endlessly by Dr Clueless McSmugerson spouting irrelevant psychobabble in his tacky suit, smelling of tacky cologne, smelling his badly prepared 'fancy' vegetarian meal and badly matched wine on his breath. TV show Chilton has a missing kidney and damaged internal organs, that'll smell nasty to Hannibal too. Even without their (tv show) history, Chilton is a self serving hack and the feds who put Hannibal away know that it'll sting to be put in HIS institution instead of somewhere more scholarly where he might actually get to play mind games. Like you say, he'll be Hanu the killer (© Chilton 2015), trophy n°1 next to Multiple Miggs (© Chilton 2013) and a line up of your run of the mill low IQ, antisocial PD, narcissistic PD and just plain psychotic criminals. Nothing to analyze, no play things, just memories. In the books, imprisoned Hannibal refers to Chilton as Billy Rubin. Bilirubin is a substance secreted by the liver that does blood clean up (bruises for example go from blood purple to yellowish green as bilirubin does its job) and also is responsable for the greenish brown colour of stools.
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InfiniteZero posted:You're not alone. Also I don't need to see more light blooms while a the soundtrack blares somebody plucking a single note on a cello followed by a water drop sound and then we see blood splatter in reverse. The blood/water drop is now the Abrams lens flare in this show. I could probably watch 42 minutes of Mads reading the phone book as the light moves around his amazing skeletal face with shots of Gillian Anderson in various haute couture dresses looking on. 42 minutes of Raul Esparza strutting around his asylum like a peacock (occasionally breaking into song). 42 minutes of Glenn Fisher killing pigs, footage in reverse, blood everywhere looking like he's enjoying every moment. 42 minutes of Jack yelling at students and collegues at Quantico. 42 minutes of sepia toned Hugh Dancy washing stray dogs in his underpants in slo mo works for me too, but only if we get Scott Thompson narrating. n3wt fucked around with this message at 18:14 on Jun 28, 2015 |
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n3wt posted:Raul Esparza strutting around his asylum like a peacock (occasionally breaking into song). Now that I've finally watched Pushing Daisies, which very occasionally features characters occasionally breaking into song for absolutely no reason besides the fact that the actors can sing - and given the insane experimental direction this show is heading in - I would not necessarily bet against this.
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InfiniteZero posted:You're not alone. Also I don't need to see more light blooms while a the soundtrack blares somebody plucking a single note on a cello followed by a water drop sound and then we see blood splatter in reverse. I still love the show but this is hilariously apt.
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I loving love everything about this season and I would gladly watch an hour long memory montage set to slow motion blood spatters and beautifully discordant plinks and strings.
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Gonz posted:Guy who plays Verger is doing a pretty solid "Oldman as Verger" voice, if just slightly exaggerated. Well played. I don't know, he kind of sounds like Jim Carrey doing his Jimmy Stewart impression to me.
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showbiz_liz posted:...except Hannibal was still trying to be his friend the whole time. I don't think so. The more I see of this season the more I think of the short story Ethan Brand that's often invoked as inspiration by David Milch. It's about a man who goes in search of "the unpardonable sin" and discovers that it's the violation of the sanctity of another person's heart. I think that's all Hannibal is doing. He's completely evil. it's fantastic.
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TurboFlamingChicken posted:Yup, I got no problems with all the overdone imagery and sound. I could seriously watch 20 minutes of blood slowly splashing everywhere while a Brian Eno wannabe convulses on a theramin as the soundtrack. Same. I was thinking recently - most modern TV shows and the majority of movies have a pretty realistic or naturalistic vibe to them. They're concerned with writing dialogue that sounds like something a real person would say and delivering it the way a real person would say it, settings look like real places even if it's sci-fi or fantasy, and there's a general concern with preserving the 'reality' of what appears on screen. If the events of the show were really happening and you were eavesdropping on them, what you see on the screen is what you would would see in that reality. From the little I know about theatre history, this is actually a pretty new concept. Most of the older theatrical genres didn't/don't attempt to slavishly recreate reality; they use deliberately heightened language and visuals and acting styles, they include unrealistic digressions like songs or extended monologues. This is a thing from Greek tragedy to kabuki to Shakespeare to Broadway musicals. I think Bryan Fuller is one of the relatively few people working in TV who is trying to introduce alternatives to realism and naturalism, and I'm all for it.
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joedevola posted:I don't think so. The more I see of this season the more I think of the short story Ethan Brand that's often invoked as inspiration by David Milch. It's about a man who goes in search of "the unpardonable sin" and discovers that it's the violation of the sanctity of another person's heart. Oh, he's completely evil all right, and he has never not shamelessly manipulated Will. But he also actually likes Will and actually wants to be his friend. It's just that his definition of friendship is completely unspeakable.
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showbiz_liz posted:Same. ^^^This, exactly.
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The show has gotten indulgent but I feel like it's an earned indulgence, and also likely to have been ramped up in order to mirror the lunacy/madness of Will's obsession with tracking Hannibal down. At the mid-season point when Hannibal is captured and locked away I would not at all be surprised if the show then dials things back a bit, to reflect Will's mental state.Chokes McGee posted:The five stars afterwards had worn down before Will got there. 
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Daddy Marbles posted:Huh, I'm actually surprised that Amazon had an exclusivity contract with the show. Hannibal has been available to stream on Netflix Canada for a while now. It's actually how I first watched it. Hopefully, if Amazon passes on it (which dubious sources such as http://renewcanceltv.com/hannibal-amazon-passes-on-chance-to-save-series/ are taking their canned response to any series request as ), Netflix will be able to take the reigns. Netflix already has several series produced by Gaumont, which may ensures they stay on as financers. Fuller is most optimistic about Amazon in this interview: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/bryan-fuller-hannibals-future-has-804935 He also refutes the theory that the SOTL rights issues had something to do with the cancellation, among other interesting things. I first saw that canned response and website on a hate tumblr and had to wonder if the whole thing was made up, even though it has no bearing on what's happening behind the scenes. There are some very dedicated haters out there, usually because they treat the books and movies like holy writ and were never going to embrace a freewheeling new adaptation, but it often goes hand in hand with homophobic whining about Bryan getting his gay cooties all over everything. They have a lot of free time. hope and vaseline posted:I loving love everything about this season and I would gladly watch an hour long memory montage set to slow motion blood spatters and beautifully discordant plinks and strings. Same here. I was kind of thrown off by the pacing of episode 2 and 3 at first and never thought they'd hold out until 4 to have all the Red Dinner victims accounted for, which would be a reasonable expectation for any other show. This one was more interested in wandering around the land of the literally and figuratively dead for a while and exploring the sense of unreality that comes with grief and trauma. Rushing through that wouldn't have worked for these characters. I agree with showbiz_liz, too. Realistic isn't synonymous with good or effective, and it's always weird to see any story criticized for not being something it never set out to be in the first place. They've always said they're going for emotional truth above anything else.
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Ed Zeddmore posted:Fuller is most optimistic about Amazon in this interview: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/bryan-fuller-hannibals-future-has-804935 Yeah, I've heard before that the only thing they lack the licence for is the names of characters introduced in Silence - they could make a verbatim adaptation if they felt like it, they just have to change the names.
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BreakAtmo posted:Yeah, I've heard before that the only thing they lack the licence for is the names of characters introduced in Silence - they could make a verbatim adaptation if they felt like it, they just have to change the names. I really doubt that's true. I don't think when Bryan Fuller said he could just introduce Schmarlice Schmarling he was suggesting he could do much more than capture the gist of Silence of The Lambs. If a movie studio has the rights to that book he can't portray the events of that book with specificity, unless I'm mistaken.
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Wax Lion posted:I don't think when Bryan Fuller said he could just introduce Schmarlice Schmarling he was suggesting he could do much more than capture the gist of Silence of The Lambs. If a movie studio has the rights to that book he can't portray the events of that book with specificity, unless I'm mistaken. This is definitely true - but then again, they've already used a bunch of scenes and lines from Silence of the Lambs in the show. With the way they usually twist the canon around, I think they could have a season 'inspired' by Silence without getting the rights.
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Wax Lion posted:I don't think when Bryan Fuller said he could just introduce Schmarlice Schmarling he was suggesting he could do much more than capture the gist of Silence of The Lambs. Now I really want a character named Beefalo Bill.
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You know, now that I think of it, wasn't the muralist sort of based on Buffalo Bill? -He was obsessed with skin, and killed people because he needed their skins for his art. -He preserved his victims in order to keep the skin looking right and sewed them together, both things Bill did with his pieces of skin. -He kidnapped that one victim in a very similar way to the Silence of the Lambs kidnapping. -We see his tableau first as if we're looking down a well, like the one Bill kept his victims in. -The discarded bodies were found in a river, and contain physical evidence that ultimately leads to the killer's discovery, like Bill's victims.
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My understanding is that they can't use characters that were introduced in SOTL. http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/s225/h...~pgYjp6gBqUytb1 This means that not only can they not use the name Clarice, but that they can't use a renamed version of her character. Fuller tried getting Gumb and Raspail, but since MGM said no he made up Tobias and Franklyn, who are different characters but fulfill similar roles in the mythos. So if he wanted a replacement for Clarice, he'd have to make her about as different. Which is not bad, Tobias and Franklyn were pretty good substitutes.
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