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TEAH SYAG
Oct 2, 2009

by Lowtax
Hey, I just saw Agent Hannibal get his rear end get kicked by Morpheus, I don't care, 100% satisfied.

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TOOT BOOT
May 25, 2010

PassTheRemote posted:

Onje detail I missed while watching initally that I saw upon rewatch, Jack removed his shoes before fighting Hannibal. It's how he got the jump on Hannibal. It's a very smart move.

I believe that's how Hannibal snuck up on Will and gutted him in the books.

Rocksicles
Oct 19, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo

Steve Yun posted:

Hannibal mentioned that the weather was cool enough for curing meat. That means Jacks feet were not smelly. TACTICAL REALISM MAINTAINED.

Do black people have smelly feet? i always assumed not.

Piriwi
Feb 20, 2006

Modest Proportion posted:

If you're feeling really let down, disappointed or bored by the show right now, you really haven't been paying attention to the show so far.

I can get not liking the execution or whatever, but if some of you are as shocked and bored by the direction so far as you talk like, I have no idea how you stuck around this long.

I personally believe the arc, tone, and slow burn of the past 4 episodes is the only appropriate follow-up from the season 2 finale.
I disagree. For me the finale of season 2 was the culmination of Will slowly but surely being influenced by Hannibal and eventually ending up in his world. The problem with season 3 is that we stay in that world (because Will can't leave), but it lacks tension because there is no build up any more. It's just people sitting in trains and bathrooms and talking about each other before the eventual and unavoidable reunion between Will and Hannibal. That's not really that interesting, just because (the character of) Hannibal is pretentious doesn't mean the show itself has to be. Will is boring and as a viewer hard to relate to in any way, meanwhile Hannibal seems to have lost his unpredictability and is not as menacing as before. Hannibal works as a monster, if he is too exposed he is just pathetic. And because Will is becoming like Hannibal he also becomes more difficult to empathize with. Now, that might be the intention of the creator of the show, but the problem is that the current Will and Hannibal just don't work well as main characters.

Then the parts where you do get the sense of something actually happening (Alana teaming up with Verger, Jack going to Italy, the introduction of Chiyoh) feel oddly bland in comparison to the vaguely mystical scenes with Hannibal and/or Will. Because those scenes were so stretched out the other stuff even seems rushed. My favourite scenes have been those revolving around Jack and I feel they are much more in tune with the earlier seasons. And it will also be interesting to see if and how Hannibal will change after his defeat. If Will had died after being pushed of the train I wouldn't have cared.

EmmyOk
Aug 11, 2013

I don't think anyone will become Clarice or is intended to be. Clarice works because she only meets Hannibal when he is imprisoned, it wouldn't work at all with a pre-existing relationship.

ufarn
May 30, 2009
Clarice is too great a character to replace with anyone else like Alana. I'm not entirely sure how they'd manage to flip the show to focus on her instead of Will in Silence, too, either. It'd probably feel like a CSI: Miami version of the show.

I don't think Jodie Foster is a hard Clarice to beat, but the character requires a good actress to work, so it's something you could easily screw up.

mortons stork
Oct 13, 2012

TEAH SYAG posted:

Hey, I just saw Agent Hannibal get his rear end get kicked by Morpheus, I don't care, 100% satisfied.

Holy gently caress that was satisfying. I was waiting so long for it. And then the Kubrick homage, and Hannibal looking terrified and seeing his tricks aren't worth poo poo and just getting pummeled, the complete break from the dreamlike atmosphere, that was so good.
I don't care, just make the rest of the season a montage of Jack beating the poo poo out of Hannibal, works for me.

EmmyOk
Aug 11, 2013

mortons stork posted:

Holy gently caress that was satisfying. I was waiting so long for it. And then the Kubrick homage, and Hannibal looking terrified and seeing his tricks aren't worth poo poo and just getting pummeled, the complete break from the dreamlike atmosphere, that was so good.
I don't care, just make the rest of the season a montage of Jack beating the poo poo out of Hannibal, works for me.

Bryan Fuller's new series "Larry Fishburne Kicking the Shite out of Continental Europe"

Entropic
Feb 21, 2007

patriarchy sucks
The Will parts of this last episode were really terrible with awful, stilted dialogue.

HIJK
Nov 25, 2012
in the room where you sleep
counterpoint: Will's segments are delightfully gross and weird, and therefore amazing. Hmmmmmm check and mate

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.
Soiled Meat

Rocksicles posted:

Do black people have smelly feet? i always assumed not.

I don't know, I am still gathering data about that. It is difficult to convince people to let you smell their feet for research.

However, I do know that bad smells travel at about 3 mph through the air, so if you can walk faster than that you can sneak up on somebody before they smell you. It's the same principle by which supersonic fighter jets sneak up on targets

Wiggy Marie
Jan 16, 2006

Meep!

Steve Yun posted:

I don't know, I am still gathering data about that. It is difficult to convince people to let you smell their feet for research.

However, I do know that bad smells travel at about 3 mph through the air, so if you can walk faster than that you can sneak up on somebody before they smell you. It's the same principle by which supersonic fighter jets sneak up on targets

So what you're saying is that Jack is akin to a supersonic fighter. I say that checks out.

justcola
May 22, 2004

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

Will has never really been that likeable. In the first season he was kind of awkward and rude or crying, in season two he was bitter and creepy, this season he's totally mental. I'm glad they're giving him some more meatier stuff to do besides re-enact murders and be snotty to someone making a suggestion. Plus things like slow motion train backflip matches slow motion running with dog and shotgun through snow, I find him entertaining. Jack is the closest thing to a hero the show has, Will isn't really an antihero even. Just bizarre.

Old Doggy Bastard
Dec 18, 2008

Verisimilidude posted:

I hate that this is one of those shows where everyone talks in whispers but then the music and bass is really loud so I have to constantly lower and raise the volume.

I love how darkly lit this show is aside from the fact I have to turn off every bit of lighting in the room to watch this show- between the volume and the lighting this show is basically interactive media.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004

Grimey Drawer
If you're not watching this show with all the lights off you're loving up

EmmyOk
Aug 11, 2013

I watch it on my cheat day with a massive plate of fried potatoes and eggs, very un-Hannibal.

Verisimilidude
Dec 20, 2006

Strike quick and hurry at him,
not caring to hit or miss.
So that you dishonor him before the judges



edit: Wow, I do not remember making this post already. My memory is shot lately, my bad.

I'm maybe halfway through the season. I think the Hannibal Lecter spoopy castle was a bit much, but then again this season seems to be all about being really crazy and out there. I'm not entirely sure if I'm enjoying it, but I'm drawn to watching it at least in one or two episode increments.

Verisimilidude fucked around with this message at 02:56 on Jul 6, 2015

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


Bown posted:

If you're not watching this show with all the lights off you're loving up

Chokes McGee
Aug 7, 2008

This is Urotsuki.

EmmyOk posted:

Bryan Fuller's new series "Larry Fishburne Kicking the Shite out of Continental Europe"

That's why Hannibal wasn't renewed, they're focusing on the backdoor pilot from this week instead.

EmmyOk
Aug 11, 2013

Chokes McGee posted:

That's why Hannibal wasn't renewed, they're focusing on the backdoor pilot from this week instead.

Each episode is a different country until the finale is him vs Putin in a frozen wasteland in one of those fights where you tie your front feet together and put your back foot against a knife and whale on each other till only one is left standing. Like this kinda

Old Doggy Bastard
Dec 18, 2008

Steve Yun posted:

However, I do know that bad smells travel at about 3 mph through the air, so if you can walk faster than that you can sneak up on somebody before they smell you. It's the same principle by which supersonic fighter jets sneak up on targets

At this point I would not be phased if you work for the show as Heightened Senses Continuity Wrangler.

Bown posted:

If you're not watching this show with all the lights off you're loving up

I get scared of monsters.

Modest Proportion
Dec 16, 2012

"Oh wrangling schools, that search what fire
Shall burn this world, had none the wit
Unto this knowledge to aspire,
That this her fever might be it?"

"Did you just smell me?"

Old Doggy Bastard posted:

I get scared of monsters.

That's why you turn the lights off; this monster eats people who gently caress with good taste.

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.
Soiled Meat
nevermind

Steve Yun fucked around with this message at 08:45 on Jul 6, 2015

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar
Despite (or because of) Hannibal's tastes being so refined, I can't see him eating the exact same truffles and drinking the exact same wine week after week no matter how top notch they are.

I think it was Bedelia trying to be found. It also explains whey she went and sat in front of that camera for a while.

She probably threw the stuff in the trash before she got home.

Rabbit Hill
Mar 11, 2009

God knows what lives in me in place of me.
Grimey Drawer
Nooooooo...all those white truffles :cry: :dawkins101:

I thought this episode was the best one in the season so far, but I also thought that this season will probably work a lot better when marathoned. Luckily, I'm one of those who don't care about how stilted or slow the dialogue is, and I'm satisfied from being transfixed watching Hugh Dancy's and Tao Okamoto's faces melt in and out of shadow for 3 minutes. (Although I did listen.) When Will says, "He comes in the guise of a mentor," that sounds exactly like someone describing the Devil.

Speaking of, Mads' face in the scene where Pazzi brings him the scold's bridle looked strikingly inhuman. I think he's gained a little fullness in his face from age, but in that scene especially it made him look even more like he's some kind of iron or stone sculpture or mechanical being because he kept his features so still and cold. He just radiated power and menace without doing anything overt -- that's talent.

I looked for a screencap of that moment and couldn't find one quickly, but I did find this and, here, EmmyOK, have some Will "Tremulous Gaze" Graham :)



That's one thing I have always loved most about this show -- the stark difference in Mads' and Hugh's acting choices, Mads holding himself so still and composed while Hugh lets every tiny shift of emotion ripple across his face, and yet both of their faces are equally communicative. Thinking of that scene I mentioned with Will and Chiyo on the train, one of the reasons the stilted dialogue doesn't bother me is that I can glean everything I need from a scene by watching Hugh's face. Plus, I like the dialogue. v:shobon:v

Let me also point out how rare and lovely it is to have a show that gives us scenes of a man and woman in bed, with the woman clothed up to the neck while the man is shirtless and lit and filmed like the camera is in love with him. That was nice. Thanks for that, Guillermo Navarro.

Rabbit Hill fucked around with this message at 14:21 on Jul 6, 2015

Chokes McGee
Aug 7, 2008

This is Urotsuki.

EmmyOk posted:

put your back foot against a knife and whale

This is where the phrase break happened in my head and it made for a strange image.

lol but
Feb 24, 2007

body is a dinosaur
Slippery Tilde

Chokes McGee posted:

This is where the phrase break happened in my head and it made for a strange image.

Would not be surprised to see a man hit another man with a cetacean, the show could go anywhere at this point.

Humbug Scoolbus
Apr 25, 2008

The scarlet letter was her passport into regions where other women dared not tread. Shame, Despair, Solitude! These had been her teachers, stern and wild ones, and they had made her strong, but taught her much amiss.
Clapping Larry

Theshby posted:

Would not be surprised to see a man hit another man with a cetacean, the show could go anywhere at this point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUKk4k0yqJA

script kitty
Jan 2, 2005

GOTTA GO CATTES
It was a great episode but that weak-rear end espresso pull nearly ruined it

xbilkis
Apr 11, 2005

god qb
me
jay hova
Fuller tweeted that Amazon and Netflix have both passed on picking up Hannibal :(

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

♪ Come with me, and you'll be, in a world of pure imagination. ♪
Goodnight sweet Prince, at least we'll always have these three amazing seasons :unsmith:

uPen
Jan 25, 2010

Zu Rodina!
Why would they pick it up? They're not going to be able to get the rights to use Silence from MGM so there's not much point.

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


Yeah if this were any deader at this point it'd already be eating itself at a party it's hosting in its own honor

Soylentbits
Apr 2, 2007

im worried that theyre setting her up to be jotaros future wife or something.

xbilkis posted:

Fuller tweeted that Amazon and Netflix have both passed on picking up Hannibal :(

CBS can get their Clarice Starling show started and just put Fuller on.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

by vyelkin

Soylentbits posted:

CBS can get their Clarice Starling show started and just put Fuller on.

I think, at least as of like two years ago, it was Lifetime of all channels that was looking at doing a Clarice Starling series.

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


Timby posted:

I think, at least as of like two years ago, it was Lifetime of all channels that was looking at doing a Clarice Starling series.
Yeah, they have the rights.

Soylentbits
Apr 2, 2007

im worried that theyre setting her up to be jotaros future wife or something.

Timby posted:

I think, at least as of like two years ago, it was Lifetime of all channels that was looking at doing a Clarice Starling series.

Well then my brain just didn't remember that because that's just goofy.

NoEyedSquareGuy
Mar 16, 2009

Just because Liquor's dead, doesn't mean you can just roll this bitch all over town with "The Freedoms."
Hannibal, a show on NBC, started season 2 with a guy waking up to find himself covered in farming preservatives and stitched into a mural made of dead people.

I don't see why a similar Clarice show can't be on Lifetime.

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.
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Brock Samson
May 13, 2003

I let you know me, see me. I gave you a rare gift, but you didn't want it.

There's still Crackle!

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