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EmmyOk
Aug 11, 2013

Rabbit Hill posted:

I looked for a screencap of that moment and couldn't find one quickly, but I did find this and, here, EmmyOK, have some Will "Tremulous Gaze" Graham :)

I changed my avatar too soon!

Chokes McGee posted:

This is where the phrase break happened in my head and it made for a strange image.

"Larry has chosen an Orca as his whale but oh dear Putin is contesting the selection claiming an Orca is a dolphin..." and that will be the season 1 cliffhanger of Larry Fishburne Kicking the Shite Out of Continental Europe

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Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


If NBC was only contributing $180,000 and episode, surely someone can put up the $2.5 million difference for mother season. Maybe Mark Cuban since he has a network.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

by vyelkin

Josh Lyman posted:

If NBC was only contributing $180,000 and episode, surely someone can put up the $2.5 million difference for mother season. Maybe Mark Cuban since he has a network.

A network like 5 percent of cable subscribers get.

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


Timby posted:

A network like 5 percent of cable subscribers get.
I never said it was a good business decision, but Mark Cuban isn't really one for good business decisions.

right to bear karma
Feb 20, 2001

There's a Dr. Fist here to see you.
Maybe Fuller will spill the details about what he'd planned for the future. I wonder if they'd have done anything differently this season if they'd known for certain ahead of time it would be the last.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

♪ Come with me, and you'll be, in a world of pure imagination. ♪
Put Hannibal on El Rey and go even MORE surreal :getin:

Ed Zeddmore
Dec 12, 2011

:h:love will turn you around:h:
It's not dead until you see the corpse, which we all should have learned by now.







And again, the Clarice rights issue wouldn't apply to next season because Bryan has been saying in all kinds of recent interviews that he has something else planned (that he'll barely even hint at on the record, which for him is astounding) and wouldn't need her or her analogue until 5. They've also said from the beginning that they wouldn't dump Will to focus only on her anyway, and I've never seen any indication that that's changed, so that's probably not a factor, either.

Entropic
Feb 21, 2007

patriarchy sucks

xbilkis posted:

Fuller tweeted that Amazon and Netflix have both passed on picking up Hannibal :(

There's always The Food Network.

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



Entropic posted:

There's always The Food Network.

I would watch cooking with Hannibal

VDay
Jul 2, 2003

I'm Pacman Jones!
I'm surprised SyFy isn't jumping all over this, it seems like it'd be a relatively cheap way for them to get a critically acclaimed prestige show, and the ratings would do just fine for them.

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:

I would watch cooking with Hannibal

A straight up regular cooking show starring Mads & Pals, in character, would be a surreal experience.

Mason Verger teaching people how to make a Baked Alaska is something the world needs to see. Hell, have Will decorate a clock-shaped cake.

EmmyOk
Aug 11, 2013

Gonz posted:

A straight up regular cooking show starring Mads & Pals, in character, would be a surreal experience.

Mason Verger teaching people how to make a Baked Alaska is something the world needs to see. Hell, have Will decorate a clock-shaped cake.

He will have his own fly fishing segment

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

♪ Come with me, and you'll be, in a world of pure imagination. ♪

Gonz posted:

Hell, have Will decorate a clock-shaped cake.

A horrified Alana shows Hannibal the cake that will decorated for her, Hannibal smoothly pulls out a cake "Will made earlier" that is perfectly iced.

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


VDay posted:

I'm surprised SyFy isn't jumping all over this, it seems like it'd be a relatively cheap way for them to get a critically acclaimed prestige show, and the ratings would do just fine for them.

One of their biggest hyped original shows in years is Helix, and that lasted 2 seasons before the money to make and air it and the viewers who regularly watched it didn't justify keeping it alive in their opinions.

If you think this story is going to last 2 more years on any station, there is no happy ending in the cards for you. Like I said, just enjoy the rest of this ride. As Fuller's said repeatedly, it's longer than they've expected it to go for years.

sector_corrector
Jan 18, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo
I'm disappointed to see that it seems to be inevitably getting canceled, but to a certain degree I'm not sure how Brian Fuller's OC shmlarice shmlarling character would've gone.

Also, is there any reason that Lifetime wouldn't pick this up since they already own the rights to the Silence plotline?

Rocksicles
Oct 19, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo

EmmyOk posted:

He will have his own fly fishing segment

As an aficionado of fly fishing movies, i would watch the loving gently caress out of that.

thatguy
Feb 5, 2003
don't understand why you guys are all rooting for this show to go on without clarice, especially after this season's total autofellatio.

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"

Jerusalem posted:

A horrified Alana shows Hannibal the cake that will decorated for her, Hannibal smoothly pulls out a cake "Will made earlier" that is perfectly iced.

Just envisioning this in my head makes me want to see the Hannibal cooking show that much more.

Rocksicles
Oct 19, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo

thatguy posted:

don't understand why you guys are all rooting for this show to go on without clarice, especially after this season's total autofellatio.

I love me some autofellatio

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004

Grimey Drawer

thatguy posted:

don't understand why you guys are all rooting for this show to go on without clarice, especially after this season's total autofellatio.

because this season's total autofellatio is loving wicked.

ps I love that in everyone is in total agreement that the season so far is crazy pretentious but just disagree on whether or not that's a bad thing

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

Gonz posted:

A straight up regular cooking show starring Mads & Pals, in character, would be a surreal experience.

Mason Verger teaching people how to make a Baked Alaska is something the world needs to see. Hell, have Will decorate a clock-shaped cake.

Verger could host a weekly wine tasting show, Spitters are Quitters.

Entropic
Feb 21, 2007

patriarchy sucks

Gonz posted:

A straight up regular cooking show starring Mads & Pals, in character, would be a surreal experience.
Guests who are particularly rude or uncouth mysteriously vanish during commercial break, after which exquisite pork dishes are served.

resting mitch face
Apr 9, 2005

5) I hear you.

Jon Do posted:


I still can't see how they end up catching him. Killing him, maybe. Capture, while obviously where this is headed, still seems impossible.
Since they seem to be in Hannibal (book 3) territory, my guess is that Hannibal comes back to the states and is soon caught. By who? I dunno. Mason's pig pal mob guys got killed already. Maybe he has more professional kidnappers.

But my best guess is that it would follow book 3: Hannibal comes back to the States and lays low for a while. Hannibal ends up being caught handed over to Mason. He Hannibal's himself out of getting eaten by the pigs, and encourages Margot to finally face-gently caress her brother to death with his eel (though she also stimulated him with an electric prod after death to get a sperm sample to knock up her girlfriend for a heir). He tells Margot that he will take the blame for Mason's death, because what's one more death on his record gonna do. If Bloom is now Starling, she will be there. Maybe it will be Graham but I thought he had to go and catch Red Dragon later this season. Something will happen (Starling was shot with a tranquilizer) and Hannibal will rescue her. He then takes Bloom to his retreat and does his mind control thing. Someone is going to end up eating their own brains at dinner (Jack probably).

^burtle
Jul 17, 2001

God of Boomin'



I am pretty sure they could just kickstart it and show it in Europe and then sell DVDs.

n3wt
Dec 22, 2005

^burtle posted:

I am pretty sure they could just kickstart it and show it in Europe and then sell DVDs.

What will the Koreans do without their food porn, murder lovers ♥ ♥ show?
The europeans do LOVE this show too (it's airing on various pay cable/streaming services).
It's a complicated multicorp backed show and NBC was just the USA partner.... buuuut having that USA partner is pretty important for viewership.

This would be a massive win for SyFy, it could work on Fox but they'd have to air it late (to avoid complaints about the gay stuff!). HBO or Starz would be excellent homes: HBO would get one more critically acclaimed "niche" tv as art show, Starz would have a little more prestige to go with it's usual sex and gore fare.
I'm not ready to write it off just because NBC has dropped out, it was an odd choice for NBC in the first place.
I mean, the fannibals are rabid enough that they'd probably fund a kickstarter for a straight to DVD or hannibal.com livestreaming season 4 for the USA that would be partially funded by the Euro channels/AXN airing it.

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

n3wt posted:

What will the Koreans do without their food porn, murder lovers ♥ ♥ show?

I'll have you know that if Hannibal had time travelling cross dressing aliens and was set in the Joseon dynasty, they'd fund it for the next fifty years.

BreakAtmo
May 16, 2009

Gorilla Salad posted:

I'll have you know that if Hannibal had time travelling cross dressing aliens and was set in the Joseon dynasty, they'd fund it for the next fifty years.

gently caress the Koreans, I'D fund it for the next fifty years if it had that.

InfiniteZero
Sep 11, 2004

PINK GUITAR FIRE ROBOT

College Slice

VDay posted:

I'm surprised SyFy isn't jumping all over this, it seems like it'd be a relatively cheap way for them to get a critically acclaimed prestige show, and the ratings would do just fine for them.

I'm surprised Netflix isn't jumping all over this, it seems like it'd be a relatively cheap way for them to get a critically acclaimed prestige show, and the ratings would do just fine for them.

I'm surprised Amazon isn't jumping all over this, it seems like it'd be a relatively cheap way for them to get a critically acclaimed prestige show, and the ratings would do just fine for them.

I'm surprised Syfy isn't jumping all over this, it seems like it'd be a relatively cheap way for them to get a critically acclaimed prestige show, and the ratings would do just fine for them.

I'm surprised The Fishing Network isn't jumping all over this, it seems like it'd be a relatively cheap way for them to get a critically acclaimed prestige show, and the ratings would do just fine for them.

I'm surprised Cleveland Public Access TV isn't jumping all over this, it seems like it'd be a relatively cheap way for them to get a critically acclaimed prestige show, and the ratings would do just fine for them.

I liked this show too, but it's dead.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
Yea I really thought it'd be a no-brainer for Netflix so to hear that they passed means its probably done for.

VDay
Jul 2, 2003

I'm Pacman Jones!
I think some people are conflating "I'm surprised <channel> hasn't picked it up" with "<Channel> will definitely pick them up and save them they have to it totally makes sense the show's not dead!"

I'm just surprised that we haven't heard about interest from some of the more niche channels given the show's critical acclaim and low price tag. That doesn't mean I'm not fully aware that the show is dead in the water and will need an out-of-the-blue miracle to get picked up.

InfiniteZero
Sep 11, 2004

PINK GUITAR FIRE ROBOT

College Slice

VDay posted:

I'm just surprised that we haven't heard about interest from some of the more niche channels given the show's critical acclaim and low price tag.

Those elements of the show are attractive, but abysmal viewership, dealing with the fallout of all the shocking imagery, and the current season being mostly a Nine Inch Nails video in slow motion and half in reverse with the sound of raindrops playing behind it makes it a tough sell.

(not to mention that the next logical chapter in the show can't even be incorporated into the show either)

Oh yeah and the showrunner is committed to another series and the principal actors all need to be re-signed.

Is it that surprising?

InfiniteZero fucked around with this message at 21:21 on Jul 7, 2015

Sub Rosa
Jun 9, 2010




The low price tag isn't the whole story. NBC wasn't contributing a lot financially themselves, but being on American network TV was conditional to other funding they received I believe. Without being on NBC those other arrangements are also jeopardized. Or at least I recall reading something to that effect.

justcola
May 22, 2004

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

I'd be happy with a Silence of the Lambs remake done in the style and with the cast of the series, although it would have to be three hours long.

Wax Lion
Aug 23, 2009

n3wt posted:

HBO would get one more critically acclaimed "niche" tv as art show, Starz would have a little more prestige to go with it's usual sex and gore fare.
I'm not ready to write it off just because NBC has dropped out, it was an odd choice for NBC in the first place.

HBO would never, ever, in a million years, pick up a failed network drama. Only very recently have they even started airing a few more shows that don't come from HBO Studios.

And as has been established, Netflix was always a long shot. The Amazon streaming deal meant that either Netflix wouldn't have the first three seasons or they would have to make an expensive arrangement with Amazon.

I do wonder why Amazon passed. My guess is 1. it doesn't actually do that well on their service 2. the American Gods thing wrecked it 3. they were perturbed by the Silence of the Lambs rights issue. Hulu is probably the best chance now, unless Yahoo's Folly continues unabated. I bet we hear nothing for a year, then rumblings, then get a short season on a streaming service in like 2018. Because nothing ever dies anymore.

JD Bucks 7
Jul 18, 2013

Wax Lion posted:

Because nothing ever dies anymore.

A non-resolution (kind of like what happened in last year's finale) would cause me to never tune in if it gets rebooted years down the road. The good thing is they know this is the end. It should be conclusive. Just finish it up, let it be a good 3 season show. If it is left on cliffhangers I will be quite frustrated.

Chokes McGee
Aug 7, 2008

This is Urotsuki.

What Chokes Read posted:

Mason Verger teaching people how to make a Baked Alana

I've got to pay more attention while reading this thread. :stonk:

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"

Chokes McGee posted:

I've got to pay more attention while reading this thread. :stonk:

A very special MA rated episode.

Gonz fucked around with this message at 00:09 on Jul 8, 2015

Fog Tripper
Mar 3, 2008

by Smythe

Tagichatn posted:

This was an awesome episode although the Will/Chiyoh stuff was a bit slow. At least it ended in Will doing a sick backflip. Jack was amazing this episode and Pazzi was dumb. I love Jack basically being Hannibal for the fight. Moving around all sneaky with his shoes off and creepily putting some music on unseen by Hannibal. I guess Hannibal gets caught next episode but does Will get there in time? They have to meet up one last before Hannibal goes behind bars.

*can smell the betrayal on Pazzi
*snuck up on by a really frothingly pissed off guy that just walked through a pile of guts

right to bear karma
Feb 20, 2001

There's a Dr. Fist here to see you.

JD Bucks 7 posted:

A non-resolution (kind of like what happened in last year's finale) would cause me to never tune in if it gets rebooted years down the road. The good thing is they know this is the end. It should be conclusive. Just finish it up, let it be a good 3 season show. If it is left on cliffhangers I will be quite frustrated.

They finished filming before the season started airing, I don't think they can change anything now. They probably anticipated the fact that it could be the end, though.

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Beefed Owl
Sep 13, 2007

Come at me scrub-lord I'm ripped!

Ansiktsburk posted:

They finished filming before the season started airing, I don't think they can change anything now. They probably anticipated the fact that it could be the end, though.

How many times must we go over this? Bryan Fuller stated several times that each season ends in such a way that if the series is not continued at least it had a strong ending. It still sets things up for future seasons but it is made to conclude should that not happen.

This is like the fifth time this has been brought up. They already shot the season, it's over, if it continues fine, but if not we will have a wrap up of sorts.

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