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I'm confused, there's just two more episodes of this season, correct? And there isn't a season 4 yet? Will The Hobbit Dwarf King Serial Killer come in for the last two episodes or are we at like a half-way point for season 3 and there's a fair bit more or something? Seems weird that he would just be there for 1 episode.
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Dongattack posted:I'm confused, there's just two more episodes of this season, correct? And there isn't a season 4 yet? Will The Hobbit Dwarf King Serial Killer come in for the last two episodes or are we at like a half-way point for season 3 and there's a fair bit more or something? Seems weird that he would just be there for 1 episode. Are we not getting 13 like always?
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Jul 12, 2015 01:34
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I went on tv.com after watching the latest episode and they usually have all the episodes of a ongoing season with either placeholder names or actual episode names. And there we're just two more listed, that's why i assumed there would be just two more.
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Jul 12, 2015 01:36
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Mu Zeta posted:The Alana Bloom actress seems like she's out of her league. I don't believe anything she says or does. It sounds like an actor reciting their lines. This only stands out to me because I think everyone else is doing great work.
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Jul 12, 2015 01:51
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Huge spoilers.
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Jul 12, 2015 01:54
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Whoa, holy mother gently caress. This seems really really risky but I guess it's necessary for Red Dragon to kick in.
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Jul 12, 2015 01:59
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H.P. Shivcraft posted:My hunch, given the way the plots are getting jumbled from the books, is thus: This is possible but especially considering the latest trailer, it seems like derailing Will's character development if he runs away with Hannibal at the end. It's not impossible considering how tied up they are in each other but I'm just not sure.
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Jul 12, 2015 02:45
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That trailer 
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Jul 12, 2015 03:48
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This is how I understood the episode when I watched it. I might be wrong, but it all made sense at the time: Bedelia didn't start taking the drugs until this episode. It was all preplanned (by both her and Hannibal) that she would start taking the drugs if the police came after Hannibal, in order to give plausible deniability to her knowing/participating in Hannibal's crimes. It also seemed to me that Chiyo was trying to capture Hannibal alive for the bounty. When she set up the sniper rifle, her intention was to wound Hannibal enough to incapacitate but not kill him. She ended up having to alter that plan when she saw the knife in Will's hand; that's when she moved the reticule from Hannibal to Will. She had to shoot Will because she couldn't collect the bounty if Will killed Hannibal. With the element of surprise gone, she panicked and fled. She then tracked down Hannibal to that building and went in intending to capture him (she was quite obviously carrying a gun case). In the elevator, she noticed the butt of the gun in Jack's pocket and between that and the fact that he was giving her an extremely suspicious look caused her to announce that she had gotten off on the wrong floor and leave. She then waited one flight down for awhile and then came back up to get Hannibal and interrupted him in the middle of cutting Will's skull open. Why she would also have given up Will and what the gently caress she did with Jack, I have no idea. I could be wrong, but that's how I interpreted the episode.
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Jul 12, 2015 04:28
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FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCKKKKKKKK. Someone please, please pick up this show. Don't let this be the final season.
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Jul 12, 2015 05:00
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...! posted:Why she would also have given up Will and what the gently caress she did with Jack, I have no idea. Though it doesn't provide an answer for where Jack is, I'd imagine the reason he isn't hanging with Will and Hannibal is that Jack had nothing to do with the events that led to Mason's disfigurement, so Mason has no reason to get revenge on him or involve him at all.
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Jul 12, 2015 05:08
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Dongattack posted:I went on tv.com after watching the latest episode and they usually have all the episodes of a ongoing season with either placeholder names or actual episode names. And there we're just two more listed, that's why i assumed there would be just two more. Yeah this isn't a good way to get your information on stuff. I'd actually call it a pretty poor one. 13 episodes like always.
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Jul 12, 2015 05:17
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I thought this show was funded by NBC and like 6 different european networks so one pulling out wasn't supposed to tank the show. What happened with that?
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Jul 12, 2015 05:30
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Amazon wanted to put it into production too early so Fuller said no. It's like the most frustrating decision ever but I get it. He has another show and all that. e: oh VVV i didn't realise!
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Jul 12, 2015 05:33
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32MB OF ESRAM posted:I thought this show was funded by NBC and like 6 different european networks so one pulling out wasn't supposed to tank the show. What happened with that? Earlier in the thread someone said one of the conditions of funding was that it would be on broadcast in the USA.
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Jul 12, 2015 05:34
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...! posted:She had to shoot Will because she couldn't collect the bounty if Will killed Hannibal. I think most of your post is correct but I'm not so sure about this. I think that like Will she's caught up enough in Hannibal's mind games that she genuinely wants him to live out of concern towards him, not that she's motivated by money. I don't think she had anything to do with handing them over to Mason at all, that's all on the corrupt cops. Chiyo isn't an idiot, she'd probably realize that Mason wants to kill Hannibal and that's not the endgame she wants for him in the first place.
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Jul 12, 2015 12:11
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Bown posted:Amazon wanted to put it into production too early so Fuller said no. It's like the most frustrating decision ever but I get it. He has another show and all that. DAMNIT BRYAN. This is important. 
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Jul 12, 2015 12:17
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What's even left after the Red Dragon stuff anyway. Buffalo Bill is pretty weaksauce compared to Mason Verger and Francis Dolarhyde. They've already gone through all the Silence of the Lambs homages already and I have no interest in seeing young Hannibal killing nazis with a samurai sword.
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Jul 12, 2015 12:37
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I just want something after this. Even if it's just a TV movie. This show is too good to not be allowed to end on its own terms, however satisfying an ending this season may have. I've never been this passionate about wanting a show to live before and that's just going to make it all the more crushing
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Jul 12, 2015 13:02
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Chris James 2 posted:Missing a lot at Comic Con Anyone have a video of this panel? Wanna watch so bad. Chris James 2 posted:Fuller says rape is omitted from Dolarhyde's story, reiterates his promise that he'll never tell or focus on rape in his stories, says it's misused in TV and is lazy writing I have to say that I really really respect Hannibal as a show for this reason. I can't think of ANY police procedural type show that doesn't include horrific cases of rape as part of their normal "look at the horrible crimes committed by this week's bad guy!!" MO. The only overtly sexual content of this show is between consenting adults. It's horrifically gory otherwise, but the lack of rape and sexual violence is so refreshing.
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Jul 12, 2015 13:07
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I was going to post "I dunno, rape can be done right" but then was too horrified by this sentence.
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Jul 12, 2015 13:43
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hahaha that's more phrasing. Try "in a respectful, realistic way". Like what people keep saying about the Outlander finale.
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Jul 12, 2015 13:45
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If he doesn't trust himself to tell a story about sexual violence, I'll take his word for it. He certainly doesn't need more ways to make his characters outrageously evil, because nothing could ever top Mason literally harvesting the tears of small children.
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Jul 12, 2015 13:47
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hope and vaseline posted:It's not the best pacing but I mean there's plenty of setup for the viewer to fill in the blanks. Margot convinces Mason to buy out the investigating police force and Bedelia gives up Hannibal's location to the person interrogating her. Still they could've had 15 seconds of a police task force team swarming in in slow motion as Hannibal is cutting. Just do a quick cut to Jack as cops come running in behind him. Also where the hell did Japanese Sniper go while Jack was in there? Did she just up and leave the area completely, why did she even ride the elevator with Jack?
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Jul 12, 2015 13:54
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Apparently they had a big fight scripted between them but had to cut it for budget reasons. I guess they kept her in the elevator for the tension?
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Jul 12, 2015 13:56
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Bown posted:Apparently they had a big fight scripted between them but had to cut it for budget reasons. I guess they kept her in the elevator for the tension? Nooooo! I was sure we were gonna be shown what happened
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Jul 12, 2015 14:14
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It strikes me that Chiyoh and Jack want the same thing: Will out of Hannibal's life, and Hannibal in captivity. If only they knew and trusted eachother. She'd probably even want Hannibal in Chilton's hospital, where he'd be most humiliated.
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Jul 12, 2015 15:20
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:I think most of your post is correct but I'm not so sure about this. I think that like Will she's caught up enough in Hannibal's mind games that she genuinely wants him to live out of concern towards him, not that she's motivated by money. I think she will actually be what saves Hannibal from Mason.
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Jul 12, 2015 15:34
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It was in some of the links but I didn't see it mentioned yet: Siouxsie Sioux wrote a new song for the season finale, which is kind of a big deal. Edit VVV I would have gone with Cook Them for me Steve Yun fucked around with this message at 19:26 on Jul 12, 2015 |
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Jul 12, 2015 16:23
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Steve Yun posted:It was in some of the links but I didn't see it mentioned yet: Siouxsie Sioux wrote a new song for the season finale, which is kind of a big deal. Eat Them For Me?
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Jul 12, 2015 17:23
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I love that the episode titles reveal they're using both paintings in the show. Michael Mann mistranslated when he wrote his script and used the more evocative drawing for Manhunter, but it wasn't the one Harris mentioned in the novel. I hope they use the best parts of both movies. Red Dragon's not a good movie, but it definitely has its moments. Just as long as we get the "you're so sly..." guy I'll be content.
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Jul 12, 2015 23:15
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Chris James 2 posted:Armitage: "I spent half the season naked" I'm cool with this.
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Jul 13, 2015 01:39
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https://www.facebook.com/NBCHannibal/videos/vb.383662898323153/928630920493012/?type=3&theater Pannibal posted
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Jul 13, 2015 02:49
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Millie posted:Chris James 2 posted: This is how I convinced my mum to keep watching.
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Jul 13, 2015 02:57
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The Handsome and Talented Doctor Hannibal Lecter always wins. They better nail Red Dragon, because I'm sick of "Hannibal gets away with everything" and Will just being his punching bag along for the ride. They can shoot the scenes well and make the art pretty, but if I don't get some sort of catharsis outside of Hannibal's visit to Suplex City, I'm not gonna care a whole lot about the rest of the season.
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Jul 13, 2015 05:52
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Jul 13, 2015 06:03
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Chokes McGee posted:The Handsome and Talented Doctor Hannibal Lecter always wins. Surprise! All the scenes of Hannibal in jail are actually Will just talking to his imaginary Hannibal in an empty room.
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Jul 13, 2015 06:40
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Actually Hannibal got caught in season 1; everything since then has been in his imagination, which is why the show's been increasingly focused on him and Will and also increasingly pretentious.
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Jul 13, 2015 07:36
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I can't decide whether the show has descended into self-parody, or ascended into into self-parody.
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Frackie Robinson posted:I can't decide whether the show has descended into self-parody, or ascended into into self-parody. Would you say it's... "becoming?"
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