Hannibal: The Third Course Is The Final Course

The Something Awful Forums > The Finer Arts > TV IV > Hannibal: The Third Course Is The Final Course

Deakul: Apr 2, 2012; PAM PA RAM

PAM PAM PARAAAAM!

pyrotek posted:

Hannibal moved to Saturdays at 10PM. Yuck.

http://variety.com/2015/tv/news/nbcs-aquarius-hannibal-move-to-saturday-1201539265/

Cancels Hannibal a genuinely good show but then they renew Aquarius a genuinely lovely show? On top of that they're lumped together and moved to SATURDAYS?

Christ, NBC, that's salty.

# ? Jul 14, 2015 16:12

Adbot: ADBOT LOVES YOU

# ? Nov 10, 2025 02:15

PassTheRemote: Mar 15, 2007; Number 6 holds The Village record in Duck Hunt.

The first one to kill wins.

Deakul posted:

Cancels Hannibal a genuinely good show but then they renew Aquarius a genuinely lovely show? On top of that they're lumped together and moved to SATURDAYS?

Christ, NBC, that's salty.

They also brought back Heroes.

NBC, we really don't want you to watch us.

# ? Jul 14, 2015 16:22

Chris James 2: Aug 9, 2012

On the bright side, the second after that series finale ends I don't have to watch NBC ever again

# ? Jul 14, 2015 17:25

mrking: May 27, 2006; There's No Limit To What We Can't Accomplish

Deakul posted:

Cancels Hannibal a genuinely good show but then they renew Aquarius a genuinely lovely show? On top of that they're lumped together and moved to SATURDAYS?

Christ, NBC, that's salty.

They're bring Aquarius back for a second season and moving it to Saturday :psyduck:

# ? Jul 14, 2015 19:05

Chris James 2: Aug 9, 2012

mrking posted:

They're bring Aquarius back for a second season and moving it to Saturday

It got renewed a while ago (a lot of people saw the whole season on demand early apparently), they're moving it to Saturday because they want to keep the Aquarius-Hannibal block going while they can

# ? Jul 14, 2015 19:34

Beefed Owl: Sep 13, 2007; Come at me scrub-lord I'm ripped!

Chris James 2 posted:

On the bright side, the second after that series finale ends I don't have to watch NBC ever again

With the exception of this show and AGT, there is nothing else on NBC that seems worth the trouble. I was going to say that when Lucifer comes out I will give it a go but I just checked and it is airing on Fox, a debatable better station.

# ? Jul 14, 2015 21:36

Jerusalem: May 20, 2004; ♪ Come with me, and you'll be, in a world of pure imagination. ♪

TurboFlamingChicken posted:

With the exception of this show and AGT, there is nothing else on NBC that seems worth the trouble. I was going to say that when Lucifer comes out I will give it a go but I just checked and it is airing on Fox, a debatable better station.

I was really excited for a Lucifer tv series until 0.2 second of a later when I read they were making it a "eccentric genius helps police solve crimes of the week" procedural :psyduck:

# ? Jul 14, 2015 21:41

Steve Yun: Aug 7, 2003; I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.; Soiled Meat

It will get 8 seasons I bet.

# ? Jul 14, 2015 22:49

Astrofig: Oct 26, 2009

PassTheRemote posted:

They also brought back Heroes.

NBC, we really don't want you to watch us.

I literally tweeted them my thanks for getting rid of any excuse I might have had to watch them.

# ? Jul 14, 2015 23:11

No Dignity: Oct 15, 2007

Jerusalem posted:

I was really excited for a Lucifer tv series until 0.2 second of a later when I read they were making it a "eccentric genius helps police solve crimes of the week" procedural

Yeah what type of trash show would use such a tired formula?

# ? Jul 14, 2015 23:14

Josh Lyman: May 24, 2009

Steve Yun posted:

So while Hannibal starts cutting open Will's head, we get this image:

I'm not sure what I'm looking at, but my guess is that the sky is the dome inside Will's head, and the red stripe across the sky is the cut that Hannibal is making to get in.

Kind of like the end of the 1990 Total Recall, where the camera stares at the sun in the sky, and people interpreted it as the drill that the doctors were using to give Quaid a lobotomy

I'm gonna have to say this is too much of a stretch.

# ? Jul 14, 2015 23:17

Steve Yun: Aug 7, 2003; I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.; Soiled Meat

Maybe, but it sticks out to me as a weird image and that's the only sense I can make of it.

Earlier, Hannibal mentions that our sense of smell and taste "play inside the dome of our skulls, like miracles illuminated on a church ceiling" which seemed like a setup for that image.

# ? Jul 14, 2015 23:37

Jerusalem: May 20, 2004; ♪ Come with me, and you'll be, in a world of pure imagination. ♪

A Steampunk Gent posted:

Yeah what type of trash show would use such a tired formula?

I was equally as unexcited for Hannibal until I saw who was involved in making it and checking out the first episode. Lucifer sounds awful, the trailer looks awful, and the guy who directed it makes trash like the Underworld movies, Live Free or Die Hard and the remake of Total Recall :gonk:

# ? Jul 15, 2015 00:32

Okuyasu Nijimura: May 31, 2015

Chris James 2 posted:

It got renewed a while ago (a lot of people saw the whole season on demand early apparently), they're moving it to Saturday because they want to keep the Aquarius-Hannibal block going while they can

I figured as much, though I wonder how much overlap there really is. As much as I like David Duchovny, I still haven't been able to get too excited about Aquarius.

Anyway I'm also still feeling bad that neither Netflix nor Amazon want to pick it up but at the same time - as much as I hate saying it - I sorta wonder what the 4th season would have them doing anyway. I worry that there'd be some wheelspinning, which of course sounds ridiculous given that we're talking about Hannibal here, but still.

# ? Jul 15, 2015 04:34

EmmyOk: Aug 11, 2013

On a Bryan Fuller note I'd want a Pushing Daisies film before a Hannibal one.

# ? Jul 15, 2015 09:19

hope and vaseline: Feb 13, 2001

ascalapha odorata posted:

I figured as much, though I wonder how much overlap there really is. As much as I like David Duchovny, I still haven't been able to get too excited about Aquarius.

Anyway I'm also still feeling bad that neither Netflix nor Amazon want to pick it up but at the same time - as much as I hate saying it - I sorta wonder what the 4th season would have them doing anyway. I worry that there'd be some wheelspinning, which of course sounds ridiculous given that we're talking about Hannibal here, but still.

Netflix wanted to pick it up but couldn't because of Amazon streaming rights. Amazon wanted to pick it up but they wanted production started really fast, and Fuller wants a little breathing room to work on American Gods.

# ? Jul 15, 2015 11:07

Dr Dozzy: Nov 5, 2007; I told the other crow this; 'Get off my lawn'

How would Netflix or Amazon picking it up count as broadcasting in the US, anyway? If internet counts as US broadcasting, and the money isn't really that much of an issue, why was this even a problem?

Red Dragon seems like a good place to end the show, anyhow. There's no place else for Will and Hannibal to really go at that point, and without the rights for Silence, no real plot. Maybe could have finished this season wrapping up Hannibal on the run/on trial, and then Season 4 Red Dragon. But I'm happy we get to explore Dollarhyde.

Dr Dozzy fucked around with this message at 11:41 on Jul 15, 2015

# ? Jul 15, 2015 11:37

H.P. Shivcraft: Mar 17, 2008; STAY UNRULY, YOU HEARTLESS MONSTERS!

EmmyOk posted:

On a Bryan Fuller note I'd want a Pushing Daisies film before a Hannibal one.

Same. I'm still pissed the plans for a graphic novel fell through, I wanted to know the big stupid mystery of the pocket watch dads.

# ? Jul 15, 2015 12:46

Okuyasu Nijimura: May 31, 2015

hope and vaseline posted:

Fuller wants a little breathing room to work on American Gods.

Oh, duh! I'd already forgotten that.

# ? Jul 15, 2015 13:56

showbiz_liz: Jun 2, 2008

I'm hoping American Gods, being a product of Nerd God Neil Gaiman, will be popular enough to bring more recognition to all of Bryan Fuller's earlier work, because he seriously deserves it.

(On that note, here is Gaiman savaging some nerd on Tumblr for hating on Fuller. Man people are embarrassing)

# ? Jul 15, 2015 14:50

EmmyOk: Aug 11, 2013

showbiz_liz posted:

I'm hoping American Gods, being a product of Nerd God Neil Gaiman, will be popular enough to bring more recognition to all of Bryan Fuller's earlier work, because he seriously deserves it.

(On that note, here is Gaiman savaging some nerd on Tumblr for hating on Fuller. Man people are embarrassing)

That's amazing, he butchers him with such delicacy. An absolute Hannibaling.

# ? Jul 15, 2015 14:53

HIJK: Nov 25, 2012; in the room where you sleep

showbiz_liz posted:

I'm hoping American Gods, being a product of Nerd God Neil Gaiman, will be popular enough to bring more recognition to all of Bryan Fuller's earlier work, because he seriously deserves it.

(On that note, here is Gaiman savaging some nerd on Tumblr for hating on Fuller. Man people are embarrassing)

I now respect Neil Gaiman a lot more than I did before.

# ? Jul 15, 2015 14:58

Steve Yun: Aug 7, 2003; I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.; Soiled Meat

Is it possible Fuller can run out the clock on Amazon exclusivity and then offer it to Netflix after?

# ? Jul 15, 2015 15:50

Arist: Feb 13, 2012; _{who, me?}

There's no way the deal is short enough for that to be viable.

# ? Jul 15, 2015 15:56

WeedlordGoku69: Feb 11, 2015; by Cyrano4747

What's stopping Amazon from just waiting until American Gods finishes, then picking it up? Would the other companies have lost interest by then?

e: I'm assuming American Gods isn't meant to be a long runner, given that it's based on one book that isn't exactly a door-stopper.

# ? Jul 15, 2015 16:16

Steve Yun: Aug 7, 2003; I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.; Soiled Meat

MrAristocrates posted:

There's no way the deal is short enough for that to be viable.

I was just thinking it had to be short because they wanted to rush season 4.

If their exclusivity period is too short to make a season 4 but too long to keep the crew in production after season 3.... *sigh*

# ? Jul 15, 2015 16:30

sbaldrick: Jul 19, 2006; Driven by Hate

Was this episode super dark compared to every other episode of the show, I could barely see some of the poo poo happening.

# ? Jul 15, 2015 16:39

Periodiko: Jan 30, 2005; Uh.

So if you read into some vague things Armitage has said in interviews and tweeted, combined with the recent trailer, it looks like Armitage based Francis Dolarhyde's movements on Butoh, a form of modern Japanese dance.

Periodiko fucked around with this message at 21:42 on Jul 15, 2015

# ? Jul 15, 2015 21:27

Steve Yun: Aug 7, 2003; I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.; Soiled Meat

You're gonna have to explain some more

# ? Jul 16, 2015 04:33

Periodiko: Jan 30, 2005; Uh.

This is based on the spoilery trailer on youtube, but only based on the contextless shots of Armitage, I literally didn't watch past that first half, I just wanted to see Armitage's take.

Armitage: "... I studied an ancient kind of Japanese form of movement to find something for Dolarhyde ..." [Butoh isn't "ancient", but he's speaking extemporaneously]

The image he tweeted out after wrapping Hannibal is Diego Pi��n, a mexican Butoh dancer.

If you watch the SDCC trailer, Armitage is doing these exaggerated grotesque movements like his body is possessed by some alien force, and those are very Butoh movements. Particularly the opening shot of the trailer, with Dolarhyde studying his hand as it seems to curl into a claw of it's own accord. Or the shot after Dolarhyde does his pullups, there's nothing naturalistic about his movement, he looks like he's possessed, the way he suddenly jerks up.

The shot where he's worshipping the red dragon naked, he's literally performing a dance.

Butoh is a really cool art form, and it's really exciting to see that vocabulary being used to personify such an intense, strange character.

Periodiko fucked around with this message at 06:11 on Jul 16, 2015

# ? Jul 16, 2015 05:51

Mu Zeta: Oct 17, 2002; Me crush ass to dust

So Dolarhyde is basically a Japanophile otaku. That's great.

e: I looked up Diego Pinon videos and that poo poo looks like the one man performance from The Big Lebowski.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLU_dAlyRz8

# ? Jul 16, 2015 06:07

Steve Yun: Aug 7, 2003; I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.; Soiled Meat

Mu Zeta posted:

So Dolarhyde is basically a Japanophile otaku. That's great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87WaaTGf8eY

# ? Jul 16, 2015 06:15

Periodiko: Jan 30, 2005; Uh.

If the things that let you contextualize this are videogames and The Big Lebowski, okay, sure.

# ? Jul 16, 2015 06:18

Steve Yun: Aug 7, 2003; I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.; Soiled Meat

I can't speak for Mu Zeta, but me, I'm just playing around.

Butoh would actually explain the movement of Sadako from Ring Zero, come to think of it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_ZeILDNk6A

# ? Jul 16, 2015 06:27