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Parasol Prophet
Aug 31, 2012

We Are Best Friends Now.

Riled Shareef posted:

Wait for real...? :stonk:

I guess I didn't even think about that possibility.

I thought about it.

But then I thought "Nah, that'd be too horrific and morbid." But, welp. :stare:

... And now that I think about it again, I'm not sure if the alternative wouldn't actually be worse.

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DeadFatDuckFat
Oct 29, 2012

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So who killed pig babby?

prak
Jan 3, 2006

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Nap Ghost

DeadFatDuckFat posted:

So who killed pigley?
God.

prak fucked around with this message at 01:21 on Jul 20, 2015

MaskedTai
May 30, 2011

This better not be another fuckin' metaphor for Hannibal.

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.
Soiled Meat
It's hilarious that in the chronological beginning of this season, Chilton went around with flowers begging everyone "hey guys wanna help me capture Hannibal and put him in my hospital?" and everyone blew him off.

Steve Yun fucked around with this message at 06:35 on Jul 20, 2015

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

♪ Come with me, and you'll be, in a world of pure imagination. ♪
It was the same flowers each time as well, wasn't it? :xd:

PassTheRemote
Mar 15, 2007

Number 6 holds The Village record in Duck Hunt.

The first one to kill :laugh: wins.

Rurutia posted:

I thought the 'mostly yours' part made it obvious it wasn't Mason's?

Yes, especially because Margot uses the line later, to describe the future heirs.



DeadFatDuckFat posted:

So who killed pig babby?

Mason, duh. What makes you think a pig can carry a human babby to term? Even if it could, Mason would have the pig die because Mason will always deny Margot.


I will say Hannibal is correct. If Hannibal killed Mason, I think it would not be a cathartic.

Dead Snoopy
Mar 23, 2005
Hannibal's original [novelized] resentment of Will may still come into play. It could manifest itself through a combination of Will not keeping in touch, Chilton attempting to push Hannibal's buttons and the perception that Will allows the world to think he caught Hannibal.

EmmyOk
Aug 11, 2013

Dead Snoopy posted:

Hannibal's original [novelized] resentment of Will may still come into play. It could manifest itself through a combination of Will not keeping in touch, Chilton attempting to push Hannibal's buttons and the perception that Will allows the world to think he caught Hannibal.

Possibly but I don't see that happening. I have not read the books but wasn't book Will far less marvellous than show Will?

Dead Snoopy
Mar 23, 2005
Oh, hells yeah but I'm just raising the possibility. I don't think the tale Fuller & Co. wish to tell hinges on it.

EmmyOk
Aug 11, 2013

Dead Snoopy posted:

Oh, hells yeah but I'm just raising the possibility. I don't think the tale Fuller & Co. wish to tell hinges on it.

It'd be definitely a cool thing to see though, what it'd be like if Will and Hannibal went from affection to hate.

PassTheRemote
Mar 15, 2007

Number 6 holds The Village record in Duck Hunt.

The first one to kill :laugh: wins.

EmmyOk posted:

It'd be definitely a cool thing to see though, what it'd be like if Will and Hannibal went from affection to hate.

Three years with no calls or visits might do it.

Since it looks like Will is not in Florida for the start of Red Dragon in show, are they cutting out Hannibal getting Will's Address and the book code? That was my favorite part and really showed how sneaky and petty Hannibal could be.

King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

You think you can take me at Satan's Hollow? Go 'head on!
I don't think they have to change anything, Hannibal is still Will's adversary in this universe but for different reasons. Now it's not the fact that Will caught him, it's the fact that Will betrayed and rejected him.

The only reason Hannibal didn't go back on his promise to not kill Will is that he views himself as a man of principles, there's nothing to suggest that he didn't want to kill Will at that point. And we're already shown how Will feels about Hannibal, so I assume it was mutual. Hannibal lets himself get caught to spite Will, not to stay close to him.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

♪ Come with me, and you'll be, in a world of pure imagination. ♪
I'd say it's both - Will rejects Hannibal outright but all but admits that his fascination with the man (remember season one, episode one where he tells Hannibal he doesn't find him interesting!) means that the safest thing for him is just not to know where Hannibal is, to avoid the temptation of going looking for him again. He rejects Hannibal and sends him away, with the idea being that once he's gone, that's it - there will be no more clues or background information or old acquantinces that Will can hunt up to find his trail..... but then Hannibal just gives himself up to the FBI so that now in the back of Will's head there will always be that little voice saying,"You know EXACTLY where Hannibal is, you could go see him any time you want!"

Hannibal is a real douchebag :allears:

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004

Grimey Drawer
I'm sure Hannibal repeats the words Will says to him while breaking up with him almost exactly while surrendering, too.

Jove
Jun 17, 2004

He doesn't come to us...we go to him...BOW DOWN, SLAVE.
Baseless speculation: Alana takes the place of Freddie Lounds in the "DO YOU SEE?!" scene. Somehow, Haniinal manipulates things so that Alana gives the insulting psych profile to the Tattler. Dolarhyde goes after Alana instead of Lounds (maybe after a nudge from his idol). Plus, extra-potential for loving up Will if they re-do the flaming wheelchair scene ("It was your idea, in the first place, Will. I merely let the teacup fall. Now, can you put it back together?")

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.
Soiled Meat
Starting to plan my finale Hannidinner. The gimmick this time will be that each dish is named after a character.

CHILTON
fruit basket? or appetizer plate of cheesy and hammy snacks?
BEDELIA
probably oysters, or something with truffle or white wine
WILL GRAHAM
fried brains?
HANNIBAL
pig or cow heart stuffed with vegetables, skewered and branded "Verger Farms"
SOGLIATO
punch romaine
GIDEON
smoked thymed pork loin with candy sauce and sugar cane sticks
ALANA
something with marrow, either a bone luge or marrow ice cream
MASON
probably eel? or maybe an "overcooked wiener?"

Suggestions are welcome. I'm not sure what to do about Jack Crawford, Chiyoh or Margot? Should I bother with Cordell's pig tails?

edit: hahaha VVV

Steve Yun fucked around with this message at 08:41 on Jul 21, 2015

Kuiperdolin
Sep 5, 2011

to ride eternal, shiny and chrome

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2022

Do balut for Margot's child.

...Too soon?

hope and vaseline
Feb 13, 2001

Kuiperdolin posted:

Do balut for Margot's child.

...Too soon?

Hurrrrrrrk

I don't really have much to say that hasn't been said already, but yeah I do hope they start moving away from the divinity metaphors a bit. It was nice when it was foreboding in the background, like the human eye/body mural in season 2 with Hannibal crowning himself in god's afterimage, but it is starting to get tedious when it isn't really going anywhere. But holy poo poo, pretty much everything in this episode. If this is the last season, I'm just happy we're going out with a bang.

Timeless Appeal
May 28, 2006

Wiggy Marie posted:

Not even a full chapter, Will recounts Hannibal's capture in a one-page story because someone asks him how he caught Hannibal after seeing Will act like a total douche to some old dude to get information.

I love that book.

Upon second viewing of the episode, I think Hannibal's final surrender is his last weapon against Will's "I don't want to know you anymore." Will specifically says he doesn't want to know where Hannibal is, what he's doing, or think about him at all. If Hannibal disappears Will could put him out of his mind completely, rationalizing that maybe Hannibal finally died somewhere. Now he will always know where Hannibal is. It will make forgetting him much harder to do.
It's a shame that they're not doing Silence of the Lambs, because the ending of that books works really well. Hannibal finally escapes when he gets over Will and finds someone new.

Gwaihir
Dec 8, 2009
Hair Elf

Steve Yun posted:

Starting to plan my finale Hannidinner. The gimmick this time will be that each dish is named after a character.

CHILTON
fruit basket? or appetizer plate of cheesy and hammy snacks?


Chilton 100% has to be the hammiest ham that ever hammed paired with the sharpest cheese around!

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.


So they slept together, then he removed her uterus and the fetus and put it in a surrogate pig?

lol

showbiz_liz
Jun 2, 2008

Jove posted:

Baseless speculation: Alana takes the place of Freddie Lounds in the "DO YOU SEE?!" scene. Somehow, Haniinal manipulates things so that Alana gives the insulting psych profile to the Tattler. Dolarhyde goes after Alana instead of Lounds (maybe after a nudge from his idol). Plus, extra-potential for loving up Will if they re-do the flaming wheelchair scene ("It was your idea, in the first place, Will. I merely let the teacup fall. Now, can you put it back together?")

Nah, I bet it's Chilton who gets wheelchaired. Why? Because he's slated for SOME sort of horrible injury this season, to add to his two previous ones; and because he's most likely going to be spending a looooot of time on Hannibal's last nerve once he has him in his clutches. Plus I can just picture Esparza selling the hell out of that scene.

Yestermoment
Jul 27, 2007

showbiz_liz posted:

Nah, I bet it's Chilton who gets wheelchaired. Why? Because he's slated for SOME sort of horrible injury this season, to add to his two previous ones; and because he's most likely going to be spending a looooot of time on Hannibal's last nerve once he has him in his clutches. Plus I can just picture Esparza selling the hell out of that scene.

I don't want that to happen only because Raul is such a wonderful part of the show and if they ever got a continuation of the series, I'd want them on it.

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.
Soiled Meat
You guys don't need to put spoiler tags on speculation.

I would personally like for Chilton to continue bumbling through the gauntlet of this series like C3PO and R2D2 somehow surviving through two intergalactic wars despite being the characters most likely to get killed in crossfire.

n3wt
Dec 22, 2005

Steve Yun posted:

You guys don't need to put spoiler tags on speculation.

I would personally like for Chilton to continue bumbling through the gauntlet of this series like C3PO and R2D2 somehow surviving through two intergalactic wars despite being the characters most likely to get killed in crossfire.

Gradually losing more body parts or stupidly putting the wrong prisoners/guards close to Hannibal who teaches them how to pass their psych evals then go out and kill some more?

A Chilton dish would have to be safe for a guy with one kidney (ie: limited dairy and meat especially ham, sausage and bacon).
Maybe veggies/fruit carved into damaged skulls with one black olive and one tiny pickled onion eye.
Some fancy cane shaped veg?
A bunch of edible flowers, that have been offered and refused by multiple guests?

edit:
For Jack Crawford's dish, maybe some bull or boar: wild, kick-rear end and "ALIVE!" tasting.
For Chiyoh, you could go with snails since that was her intro motif or maybe a gamey bird of some kind, maybe a bird that eats snails?

n3wt fucked around with this message at 20:34 on Jul 21, 2015

Kemper Boyd
Aug 6, 2007

no kings, no gods, no masters but a comfy chair and no socks

Kuiperdolin posted:

Do balut for Margot's child.

...Too soon?

Turducken.

Chokes McGee
Aug 7, 2008

This is Urotsuki.

Might as well wrap up the thread now, it's all downhill from here.

Sirotan
Oct 17, 2006

Sirotan is a seal.


What the hell is Operation Smile and why is it on the NBC schedule this Saturday at 10pm?? :argh:

right to bear karma
Feb 20, 2001

There's a Dr. Fist here to see you.
No idea, but my local schedule still shows Hannibal. Scared me for a second there.

Modest Proportion
Dec 16, 2012

"Oh wrangling schools, that search what fire
Shall burn this world, had none the wit
Unto this knowledge to aspire,
That this her fever might be it?"

"Did you just smell me?"
Anyone else notice that Hannibal is only the second show to depict a struggle between characters who associate themselves with stags and dragons?

"I am the Dragon...To me, you are a slug in the sun. You are an ant in the afterbirth. It is your nature to do one thing correctly. Before me, you rightly tremble. But, fear is not what you owe me. YOU OWE ME AWE."

If you hadn't read or watched Red Dragon, would those words be that out of place in the mouth of Aerys Targaryen?

Aardark
Aug 5, 2004

by Lowtax
rip verger. fun times were had

el oso
Feb 18, 2005

phew, for a minute there i lost myself
I am truly thankful for every episode of this show that is created. What a wonderful, wonderful experience.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

Modest Proportion posted:

Anyone else notice that Hannibal is only the second show to depict a struggle between characters who associate themselves with stags and dragons?

"I am the Dragon...To me, you are a slug in the sun. You are an ant in the afterbirth. It is your nature to do one thing correctly. Before me, you rightly tremble. But, fear is not what you owe me. YOU OWE ME AWE."

If you hadn't read or watched Red Dragon, would those words be that out of place in the mouth of Aerys Targaryen?

I watch Game of Thrones and have no idea who Aerys Targaryen is.

FourLeaf
Dec 2, 2011

Mu Zeta posted:

I watch Game of Thrones and have no idea who Aerys Targaryen is.

The Mad King that Jaime killed.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

♪ Come with me, and you'll be, in a world of pure imagination. ♪

FourLeaf posted:

The Mad King that Jaime killed.

Uhhh dude, Jaime took an oath to protect the King's life, I highly doubt he would have killed him :lol:

JossiRossi
Jul 28, 2008

A little EQ, a touch of reverb, slap on some compression and there. That'll get your dickbutt jiggling.

Keep your stupid fantasy nerd poo poo out of my stupid cannibal pretentious art poo poo! :mad:

CHiRAL
Mar 28, 2010

Anus.
I wonder what dragons would taste like.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

Oh no, piggly four...

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Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

♪ Come with me, and you'll be, in a world of pure imagination. ♪

CHiRAL posted:

I wonder what dragons would taste like.

Surprisingly, the depth of the taste is paper thin.

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