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Does your wife know you're a whopper gayer for Hannibal?
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Vitamin P posted:At the time lots of us were saying that the end of season 2 would have been a perfect ending to the whole show. I think in a decade or so Hannibal might be better regarded if it had ended there. I'm not clear on this part of the show. Did Hannnibal hypnotize the patient to swallow his own throat
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Aug 7, 2015 22:43
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Steve Yun posted:I'm not clear on this part of the show. Did Hannnibal hypnotize the patient to swallow his own throat As is often the case the answer creates more questions. Also KUNG FU NECK CHOP KNOCK OUT all day baby
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Aug 7, 2015 22:53
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Steve Yun posted:I'm not clear on this part of the show. Did Hannnibal hypnotize the patient to swallow his own throat That's how I read it. Use the guys paranoia/mistrust of psychiatrists and make it a trigger for him to start 'clamming up'. Then send him to Bedelia because apparently she is terrible and will definitely trigger him. There certainly seems to be a link between 'doesn't like talking to psychiatrists' 'wont take oral meds' and 'gently caress it, subconscious says nothing gets in or out of this throat'.
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Aug 7, 2015 22:55
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Vitamin P posted:That's how I read it. Use the guys paranoia/mistrust of psychiatrists and make it a trigger for him to start 'clamming up'. Then send him to Bedelia because apparently she is terrible and will definitely trigger him. Considering what he did to Miriam Lass nothing is beyond Hannibal. Also that ending was really fricking cool, god drat I love will and his beautiful face.
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Aug 7, 2015 22:57
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Ekusukariba posted:Do you happen to have a link to the one where it's Winston's thoughts, like he's telling Will when he gets arrested that Hannibal is the killer and points out Hannibal the Cannibal Steve Yun posted:No, it was several pictures of Winston watching Will get driven away in the police car, and he's saying poo poo like          
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Aug 8, 2015 01:38
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Steve Yun posted:It wouldn't work in real life because fists are a lot wider than a balloon animal or esophagus. Not that it matters, the question isn't whether it's realistic, the question is what does it mean. "Will this disturb and unsettle the audience?" "Pretty sure it will Bryan." "Do it." On the other hand, there is le petite mort. Sex and death have always had a poetic connection. And killing in this show has always been portrayed as immensely pleasurable and a life-need like sex and food. It doesn't have to be succulent but by God life is amazig when it is.
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Aug 8, 2015 01:38
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hahaha amazing
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Aug 8, 2015 02:03
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This seems appropriate. After all, these forums are a crossroads of countries and continents. Tell me Will, what dark continent do you seek?
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Aug 8, 2015 03:18
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Slamhound posted:After all, these forums are a crossroads of countries and continents. Tell me Will, what dark continent do you seek? Whichever one is farthest from you, Dr Lecter.
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Aug 8, 2015 03:54
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Slamhound posted:This seems appropriate. My favorite variant of that is the one someone posted of using randomized wikipedia entries, a la: "Criticism of Coca-Cola has arisen from various groups, concerning a variety of issues, including health effects, environmental issues, and business practices. The Coca-Cola Company, its subsidiaries and products have been subject to sustained criticism by both consumer groups, leftist activists and watchdogs, particularly since the early 2000s. Tell me, Will...what criticism has arisen against you? Is our most sustained criticism, perhaps, from our own selves?"
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Aug 8, 2015 04:03
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It's almost like when researchers decided to have the chatbots Eliza (modeled somewhat after a psychiatrist) and Parry (a paranoid schizophrenic) and let them converse with no interaction. Hell swapping out the names and you have a scene. quote:
Plus the amusing re-do's of scenes in an updated context smacks of sly winks, like Hannibal tapping the phone "just slide that cursor down to G". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuD9_Axxp1o BogDew fucked around with this message at 06:39 on Aug 8, 2015 |
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Aug 8, 2015 04:12
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Slamhound posted:This seems appropriate. So no one's gonna link this? 
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Aug 8, 2015 06:15
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CHiRAL posted:So no one's gonna link this? I feel like that stag would make great avatar fodder.
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Aug 8, 2015 06:19
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Rutina Westley is still built from her character's story arc in True Blood where she felt so used and abused by everyone (with good reason) and considering suicide, she ran away from her hometown and taught herself to be a MMA cage fighter. It was a good way of her reclaiming her self esteem and feeling less powerless in a world full of magicals. Shame that the show liked to screw her over at every occasion so that didn't last. editing to unspoil: If Dolarhyde wasn't batshit insane, I'd be all over that. Seriously, his idea of a first date is take her to meet and touch and hug a frickin tiger!!! Then he's cool with her preparing drinks in his house, no big deal, you're blind but I trust you. Upper body like a greek god. Him carrying her to the bedroom was so sexy yet scary. This show sure knows how to make you have contradictory thoughts: This is hot, isn't he lovely being all in love, seeing her as the woman clothed in the sun like a goddess // HEY this is not hot at all, argh he's a creep, run Reba run! He's a biter! He will probably have to kill you now (his woman clothed in sun) to complete his becoming. His reaction when she touches the tiger's teeth was magnificent: fear, lust, some sort of transcendant "I'm the tiger" thing, complete and utter fascination. I half expected him to start yowling. The person who said this was the episode of D creaming himself was SO on point: Reba touching tiger teeth, Reba touching his lips and just kissing them no revulsion whatsoever, when she touches his thighs, seeing the painting, smelling the painting, eating the painting. So many O faces, so very few of them not utterly creeptastic. I liked that they showed that Will is physically no match for Dolarhyde. The movies were less on the nose about the fact that he's strong enough to throw a man across the room and the two Wills looked less weedy compared to the two Ds. So we got to Red Dragon from a tree carving of a chinese symbol meaning to hit the mark or to attain.... it also just happens to be on a mahjong tile that's incorrectly called "red dragon" in english which could mean all sorts of things in chinese culture: he could have been born in 1976 which was a fire dragon zodiac year, he could believe he's the solar deity torch dragon, he could be a marksman because the symbol means to hit your target or win and the so-called dragon tiles are archery tiles in the original chinese, but Will goes with the tenous at best Red Dragon connection due to the beastly nature of the crimes... and Hannibal goes straight to the William Blake painting which is a pretty *massive* clue right there. Will and Jack better be right back asking Lecter how he came to that amazingly precise conclusion because holy leaps of logic! At first he deflects to the chinese symbol then boom Great red Drrraaguhn. If they'd passed via William Blake's apocalyptic vision being currently on display in Bmore then I might have bought it. Finding a Chinese symbol that could mean heart or hit the target would have normal cops looking at completly different leads. Hannibal totally did the phototherapy mindfuck he did with Miriam and Will on Bedelia's patient : choke on your tongue when you feel trapped. Hannibal sniffed out that Du Maurier had that 'crush the weak' primal instinct, I wonder if he'd sent other patients before that one and her training overrode the instinct. Maybe he knew that something about that patient would totally set her off. She seems to have accepted her inhumane self quite nicely, probably Hannibals teaching at work there. Will must be wondering about the ratio of psychopaths amongst psychiatrists after Hannibal, Chilton and now Du Maurier.I really hope that the Bedelia conversation means that we'll get a scene where Will gets to talk with D about his childhood and use his remaining empathy but it has definitely opened the door to Will stone cold "crushing" D instead of empathising with him and giving us a "Will is now a cold blooded killer and isn't Hannibal proud of his becoming!" downer ending. After season 2, I can completely believe Fuller is going to rip our hearts out (in such a sublime way we'll almost want to thank him for the pain of course) Adding that it's medically impossible to fist someone that far down their throat, there are vocal chords and other things in the way and the oesophagus and bronches are way too thin. If you can choke on a penny then there's no way a woman's fist however small is going down there. I think she imagined what happened in a way more vivid way than what actually occurred, possibly Hannibal induced that imagery there by making her remember the events differently. I bring gifs: Vhoom vhoom  Stag 
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Aug 8, 2015 16:55
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The show will end with Hannibal eating himself. Eventually he will morph into ouroboros.
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Collection of D's O faces from this episode: edited to unspoiler: I'm a greeeeat rrhed drraghun!  OMG teeth touching must not yowl!  Shes touching my face!  She touched my dragon  She really touched my dragon  You are magnificent, My woman clothed in sun   Mmm fingers!  I luv you drrraguhn, you smell tasty 
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Aug 8, 2015 18:02
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I also like this one:          "j'ai passé une charge de merde d'argent sur vous maintenant etre mon amant" is supposed to mean "I spent a poo poo load of money on you, now be my lover" but I guess the creator used Google translate?
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FourLeaf posted:"j'ai passé une charge de merde d'argent sur vous maintenant etre mon amant" is supposed to mean "I spent a poo poo load of money on you, now be my lover" but I guess the creator used Google translate? Google translate has a dirty mind. Or maybe Hannibal only shits colonic sculpted Fabergé eggs and replicas of Saint Peter's Basilica and the occasional stag statue. n3wt fucked around with this message at 22:54 on Aug 8, 2015 |
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Aug 8, 2015 22:46
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Can't these fancy show runners just ask actual native speakers to translate this poo poo? They're not hard to find.
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Aug 8, 2015 23:00
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Is this season just going to end with Hannibal flat out winning again? Some people mentioned getting tired of it and I think I'm in that camp. There has almost never been a moment in the show where it wasn't "Hannibal knows all, everything that is happening is happening because Hannibal wants it that way, you can't catch Hannibal." Even his imprisonment still feels like he's winning - he wanted it, after all. Will had him legitimately fooled for about... 3 episodes in season 2? If S3 ends with Hannibal busting out and Will's new family getting brutally murdered or something along those lines... I mean, what makes the show's plot compelling in that case? I really do love it, but after the Italy arc and Hannibal really not taking much more than a Jack beatdown and a Verger branding, I'm beginning to get a bit lukewarm. Anyone else feeling that? Still am enthralled by the cinematography / performances / direction.
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Riled Shareef posted:Is this season just going to end with Hannibal flat out winning again? Some people mentioned getting tired of it and I think I'm in that camp. There has almost never been a moment in the show where it wasn't "Hannibal knows all, everything that is happening is happening because Hannibal wants it that way, you can't catch Hannibal." Even his imprisonment still feels like he's winning - he wanted it, after all. Will had him legitimately fooled for about... 3 episodes in season 2? If S3 ends with Hannibal busting out and Will's new family getting brutally murdered or something along those lines... I mean, what makes the show's plot compelling in that case? I really do love it, but after the Italy arc and Hannibal really not taking much more than a Jack beatdown and a Verger branding, I'm beginning to get a bit lukewarm. Anyone else feeling that? Still am enthralled by the cinematography / performances / direction. I'm with you. The show is beautiful, the characters compelling but the story and plot are definitely weak and have been all season.
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Aug 9, 2015 01:15
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This might come as a shock to you but Hannibal always wins. This isn't exactly new to this show.
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Aug 9, 2015 01:21
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watching the Saturday episode and does Dolarhyde let out a little puff of smoke?
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Aug 9, 2015 02:09
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I wanna touch a tiger. How does the serial killer get a hookup and I don't?
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I'm kind of enjoying not knowing jack poo poo about book canon because it allows me to be perpetually terrified for this cool blind lady without knowing just how dead she's gonna get.
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"He sends me greeting cards on Christian holidays and my birthday. And he always includes a recipe." Holy poo poo, what a line
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Weird seeing Bedelia back after marathoning The Fall.
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Bedelia, are you looking for replicants? Are YOU a replicant? Show's only been on for three years, it's quite possible...
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Bedelia shoving her hand down Sylar's throat  (I am too lazy to look up his name and am fully aware how dated this reference point is, whatever)This show had a mechafurry and a corpse mosaic and regularly features a nightmare stag man and yet I am still regularly driven to say "WHAT THE gently caress."
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Aug 9, 2015 02:49
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Bedelia speaks in such an annoyingly oblique way that I barely understood what she was trying to say to Will. Please help.
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Aug 9, 2015 02:50
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Okay give Bedelia her own show. I still don't understand what's going on in her head.
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Aug 9, 2015 02:50
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FourLeaf posted:Bedelia speaks in such an annoyingly oblique way that I barely understood what she was trying to say to Will. Please help. I think she's positing herself as someone who doesn't have the empathy for acts of extreme cruelty, whereas Will does.
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Maxwell Lord posted:Okay give Bedelia her own show. I still don't understand what's going on in her head. She crazy. It's awesome.
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Yeah, but she's remarkably good at concealing the specific brand of crazy that's in her. Compared to her Hannibal is like an open book- he reveals plenty about what he thinks about the world, the people in it, God, etc.
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FourLeaf posted:Bedelia speaks in such an annoyingly oblique way that I barely understood what she was trying to say to Will. Please help. She's channeling GLaDOS and it's amazing.
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I love that in the episode with the psychotic bodybuilder who thinks he's the GREAT RED DRAGON and literally ate a painting, he still had a run for his money in the crazy stakes with Bedelia. "I would want to crush it. I wouldn't of course. But I'd want to. Maybe YOU should crush something helpless the next time you see it  "
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Jerusalem posted:"I would want to crush it. I wouldn't of course. But I'd want to. Maybe YOU should crush something helpless the next time you see it Bryan Fuller also said on Twitter last night that that quote is borrowed heavily from something Jodie Foster actually said. WTF Jodie Foster...
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