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It's the petty, nasty, mean girl Hannibal I loved to hate in SotL, picking up on all of Clarice's fears and weaknesses (her shoes, her accent, her being a woman in the FBI) then exploiting it and setting himself up as the "nice guy". Hannibal is a master of manipulation, the fact that he chose to be a shrink is just perfect. editing to despoil: He's not only messing with Will out of spite, he's trying to pull a 'Bedelia' and see if his repressed killer might surface if he get a face to face Dolarhyde. It's a win-win: If D kills Will's family, Hannibal gets to hurt Will and act like he's the only family he'll ever have. If Will loses his humanity and kills D, Hannibal wins in 'converting' Will to the darkside and hopes to reel him in again. He's also setting up Jack to never be able to use Will again EVER, not even a Turducken killer who puts sliced from the womb babies in tortured dogs in raped nuns and crucifies them in schoolyards. He's setting up Alana to hate Jack again for putting Will through this and in the process making a mockery of her institution. // Maybe pushing this even further is how he gets the iconic empty stone wall small cell (nice throwback to the Lithuanian guy in the cellar at House Lecter) having to listen to Multiple Miggs wank all day, amongst the other wailing crazies. // Eventually the press will find out that Hannibal played his part and how he helped: so serial killers he nurtured as a psychiatrist and new pen pals will get in contact so he remains ever relevant and important to the feds. Regular visits, leverage, little luxuries for information and the joy of getting to take jabs at Jack whenever he has to visit because he doesn't want to send in a non Lecter-mindtrickery-expert who'll end up all twisted up. Nice plan. Gloriously evil MoFo. "Then I gave him your home address" DAYUM. I'm really pleased at the curveball Fuller threw by having The Red Dragon go after Wills family now, Molly kicking sweet rear end two episodes away from the end. Still holding on to hope for a non-heart wrenching: OH GOD HOLKY gently caress NO finale but still burned after the devastating "blood dimmed tide dinner" last finale and watching Lecter on that plane sipping champagne. The devil can only get away with it so many times before you get tired of his three steps ahead of everyone schtick. I want that bastard lonely and bored in his little cell eating prison food for a few long long years until Jame Gumb turns up. n3wt fucked around with this message at 15:53 on Aug 16, 2015 |
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Aug 15, 2015 02:41
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Dongattack posted:I like him more and more, poor jealous Hannibal just wants his waifu back. No matter the cost. Murder Husbandos 
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Aug 15, 2015 03:45
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Mikkelsen's gonna be in a Star Wars film 
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Aug 15, 2015 20:28
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Chris James 2 posted:Mikkelsen's gonna be in a Star Wars film The Brutal Nihilistic Scandanavian Sith Lord?
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Aug 15, 2015 20:51
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 He'll be in Rogue One!!!: http://variety.com/2015/film/news/star-wars-rogue-one-cast-photo-mads-mikkelsen-alan-tudyk-1201571071/ Holy gently caress holy gently caress! 
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Aug 15, 2015 21:16
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True Fact: Rogue One just got 1,000 times more bitchin'.
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Aug 15, 2015 21:54
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And more Scandinavian! 
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Aug 15, 2015 23:16
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Can anyone summarize the first 15 minutes of tonight's episode? Baseball pre-empted the beginning again.
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Aug 16, 2015 02:18
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Triple Helix posted:Can anyone summarize the first 15 minutes of tonight's episode? Baseball pre-empted the beginning again. Dragon is going for Will's family.
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Aug 16, 2015 02:20
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I'm so loving mad this got moved to Saturday. I literally have to have a friend text me and remind me to watch it each week, haha. This poo poo is so loving good though, goddamn! I'm really loving the Red Dragon arc. Hannibal is the world's worst ex, haha. I'm glad Alana stuck to her guns and kept her promises. Like, I'm real tired of Hannibal's poo poo at this point, and absolutely everyone else on the show is, too. It's a nice convergence of opinion. Dolarhyde's actor is doing a fantastic job conveying monologues purely through body language. That and the way shots are framed and the scenes are cut, other imagery thrown in there, that helps a lot of course. But the actor is doing an incredible job there.
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Aug 16, 2015 03:02
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Armitage really is doing great. And I liked that despite knowing the story I really wasn't sure what would happen when Francis went to Graham's house.
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Aug 16, 2015 04:59
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Steve Yun posted:The naked bath scenes would have been very different, lemme tell ya. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXqreCgWYuA
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Aug 16, 2015 14:55
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n3wt posted:I'm really pleased at the curveball Fuller threw by having The Red Dragon go after Wills family now, Molly kicking sweet rear end two episodes away from the end. My prediction is that, rather than (book spoiler) Dolarhyde faking his own death in his burning house, which is obviously not necessary plotwise now that we've already gotten the attack on Will's house, it will be Will faking Hannibal's death and possibly his own, and then kidnapping Hannibal. Not because he wants to ~run away with him~ still, but because 1) it has become incredibly obvious that being behind bars has done essentially nothing to restrain Hannibal, because his jailers don't understand him, and because 2) Will is currently being mindfucked by Hannibal into believing that he, like Dolarhyde, can’t really control his dark side forever. Which may or may not be true. So what if he says to himself - ok. I can’t protect Molly from the various psychopaths in my life, and I’ll never be able to change into a person who can. I can’t even stop myself from seeking a relationship with Hannibal, even though I know it’s insane to want that. But maybe what I CAN do is take charge of his confinement, since everyone else is doing such a poo poo job of it. Maybe I can do exactly what Chiyoh set out to do: cage him myself, and use my understanding of him to do a better job of it than Alana could. And then I don’t have to kill him, and I don’t have to keep doing what I've been doing and force down this dark part of myself in order to seem normal. In this scenario, Hannibal would be less able to hurt anyone else, Molly and everyone else Will knows would be safe, and Will wouldn't have to live the lie of being a normal guy anymore. And what an insane Season 4 that would set up.
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Aug 16, 2015 19:02
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I'm sure someone has mentioned this in this thread before, but I've got to say something. It's driving me crazy that the moon is backward in all the shots. It waxes and wanes right-to-left, not left-to-right. Since the approaching full moon is kind of important in this story, I was really confused in the first Red Dragon episode when it appeared that Jack called Will in with only two or three days before the next killing and the crime scene still wasn't cleaned up over three weeks later. And then they did it again in this episode, except now I know that they're just doing it backward
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Aug 16, 2015 20:26
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showbiz_liz posted:My prediction is that, rather than (book spoiler) Eh, I was hoping for Silence of the Lambs escape scene to be like the last scene of the entire series. It would need to be altered, as they've used the main wearing someone's face gag during the Verger stuff.
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Aug 16, 2015 22:40
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showbiz_liz posted:My prediction is that, rather than (book spoiler) Dolarhyde faking his own death in his burning house, which is obviously not necessary plotwise now that we've already gotten the attack on Will's house, it will be Will faking Hannibal's death and possibly his own, and then kidnapping Hannibal. Not because he wants to ~run away with him~ still, but because 1) it has become incredibly obvious that being behind bars has done essentially nothing to restrain Hannibal, because his jailers don't understand him, and because 2) Will is currently being mindfucked by Hannibal into believing that he, like Dolarhyde, can’t really control his dark side forever. Which may or may not be true. Ooh I like that, Not sure how long Will would be able to withstand the endless mindtrickery but it would sure would make sense. Chiyoh was right in her first statements: he needs to be confined: properly confined. Access to people-puppets is too much freedom for this dangerous man. Alana and Jack are certainly done with his nonsense but know they'll get pulled back in due to his past patients & future fans. There's an empty cell under house Lecter in Lithuania that would serve well and Will can always put a poster up on the wall of Abigail to remind him to never trust a word that comes out of his mouth. I'd be sad to see Will think he has to leave Molly and Walter though, she's been amazingly understanding and well there's the dogs! n3wt fucked around with this message at 01:30 on Aug 17, 2015 |
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Aug 17, 2015 01:25
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Jon Do posted:Eh, I was hoping for Silence of the Lambs escape scene to be like the last scene of the entire series. It would need to be altered, as they've used the main wearing someone's face gag during the Verger stuff. Only if Dolarhyde shows up and bites his jugular out for the bad advice.Jack goes "What!" in his high pitch voice, everyone gets covered in slow mo drippy droppy arterial spray to wierdo music then he makes a quip about THAT being unexpected. The Feds shoot D, look at eachother and shrug as Hannibal dies J G Hobbs style. Alana has slightly amused eyebrows and relaxes her shoulders. The crime techs do rock paper scissors for dibs on analysing his brain and intestines. Screen of Tattler Crime homepage with terrible puns about a cannibal getting eaten. Somewhere in a basement with a large moth cage, Jame Gumb puts on make up in a mirror, tumblr and secondlife on a laptop in the background, says to himself "I'm a gender fluid moth-kin and that's OK. My past does not have to define me.... I'd gently caress me hard" He puts on a beautiful moth silk robe. "You bet I will honey" says a genderbending furry wearing ear prothesthics, stripe tattoos and a tail buttplug. "gently caress this world and their need to define us!" They throw darts at pictures of their abusers: parents, step parents, bullies. Precious the poodle asks for a walk. "Hey Jayjay hun, lets go out like this!" "Yeah, let's go shock some prudes!"
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Aug 17, 2015 01:55
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Why are you spoiling theories again?
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Aug 17, 2015 02:21
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I think that was less theory and more fanfiction.
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Aug 17, 2015 03:38
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Waltzing Along posted:Why are you spoiling theories again? In my case, just because it's based on something from the book which hasn't happened in the show yet.
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Aug 17, 2015 04:00
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In my case, it's because who even knows where we're going at this point! Who knows what wacky fan theory is going to turn out to be true. It's Bryan Fuller's homoerotic subtext Hannibal with people sewn into art, social workers in a horse and people cut into hearts that turn into stags on it's final episodes of it's final season and most probably no movie/followup so he could go balls to the wall for the last two episodes. We've already had the flaming wheelchair scene, a person wearing another person's face and Will's family attacked. We're off script from Red Dragon and Manhunter. The TV summaries sound like madness is coming. I'm excited and afraid. Anything goes at this point. Murder husbands on the run, Will kills Hannibal, Hannibal kills Will, Hannibal escapes SotL style with massive bloodbath with our main characters in the asylum, Freddie Lounds annoys Dolarhyde who goes after her, Chilton loses more limbs, Reba blinds and defaces Dolarhyde with chemicals... All bets are off.
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Aug 17, 2015 11:26
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Was that The Great Red Draaaaghun stalking through Will's house or was it The Devil of Hell's Kitchen???
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Aug 17, 2015 13:43
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n3wt posted:a Turducken killer who puts sliced from the womb babies in tortured dogs in raped nuns and crucifies them in schoolyards. "This is my design."
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Aug 17, 2015 13:45
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Yea well this weeks episode was exactly what I was hoping for, I shouldn't have doubted that Fuller would change things up at some point. In every version of the story before this that scene with Molly is a fake-out, and there were a few shots of just Dollarhyde's legs that fooled me into thinking it would be the same here. So when you see him for the first time actually walking through the hallways of Will's house, that was a huge "Whaaaaaaaaaaat?!?!?!" moment for me. And because it was completely new territory the tension during that scene was unbearable. I really thought there was a decent chance of him killing Molly, especially because in this version she encouraged Will to go. The look on Molly's face as she's burning down the road with a bullet in her shoulder was loving ice-cold. That's the look of a woman who would go through ten Dollarhydes to protect her kid.
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Aug 17, 2015 13:59
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As I might have said before in the thread, the only suitable ending for the show is for Hannibal to get lobotomised. It's the only ending I can imagine that character being genuinely afraid of.
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Aug 17, 2015 15:23
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joedevola posted:As I might have said before in the thread, the only suitable ending for the show is for Hannibal to get lobotomised. It's the only ending I can imagine that character being genuinely afraid of. I'm still hoping someone gets served their own brain. Maybe Will and the gang can host their own dinner party with Hannibal as the guest of honor. 
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Aug 17, 2015 15:37
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Its not going to be a definitive ending because they wrote the season without knowing for sure if there'd be another season. So we may see something completely open-ended like Hannibal escaping ala Silence of the Lambs, or something more in the middle like Hannibal in prison awaiting the day when Clarice comes to see him. Unless they've been able to shoot additional material since the cancellation, but I've not seen anything about that and it seems really unlikely.
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Aug 17, 2015 16:07
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A Tin Of Beans posted:Like, I'm real tired of Hannibal's poo poo at this point, and absolutely everyone else on the show is, too. It's a nice convergence of opinion. I keep waiting for someone to just stop Hannibal in the middle of one of his monologues. Like in that last scene when Hannibal was quoting yet another piece of literature (I assume), I was hoping for Will to just turn around and walk out of the room as he was talking. Why does anybody let him finish his sentences anymore?
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Aug 17, 2015 18:08
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I am a little worried this will all end in some moment of triumph for Hannibal, but I also must say it would be especially discordant because this past episode seemed to want to clearly communicate how much of a petty poo poo he was. Also, Jack beating the hell out of him in Florence was one of the best moments of this season.
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Aug 17, 2015 18:20
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When you think about it Hannibal got his rear end handed to him both times he tangled with Jack. The first time he had to play dead to get the upper hand.
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Aug 17, 2015 18:31
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Jack's sheer physical power is a great thematic aid to the rest of his character as this blunt instrument, mentally and emotionally as much as physically and an overpowering presence in itself. Definitely underrated as part of the cast in that sense.
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Aug 17, 2015 18:53
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Could someone far doper than myself hit me with a gif of Reba as the Woman in the Sun?
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Aug 17, 2015 19:56
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First shot: Link for gifv version:http://i.imgur.com/Aaa2CLI.gifv Link for huge gif version:http://i.imgur.com/Aaa2CLI.gif Second shot: Link for gifv version:http://i.imgur.com/GB3srQP.gifv Link for huge gif version:http://i.imgur.com/GB3srQP.gif Steve Yun fucked around with this message at 20:15 on Aug 17, 2015 |
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Aug 17, 2015 20:12
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Thank you!
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Aug 17, 2015 20:22
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"Are the dogs gonna die?" "No, they're not gonna d... are the dogs gonna die?"
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Aug 17, 2015 20:53
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Steve Yun posted:"Are the dogs gonna die?" Molly's pretty fun, they did a killer job casting her. Well, knowing this show, I guess that's not just the casting, but the direction as well.
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Aug 17, 2015 21:29
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How good has Hannibal season 3 been? I've been distracted and shamefully have not kept up with it this summer but I am about to. I was also pretty seriously depressed to hear it had been cancelled, since I had such high goddamn hopes for this as a long-term enterprise. Anyway, I'm really excited because I know it does get into the Red Dragon/Dolarhyde stuff this season, but is the first half as strong? I almost want to savor this season slowly, knowing it's all I'm ever gonna get of this show. Why in hell didn't Amazon pick it up  edit: Watching the first episode of season 3 now and I have no clue how I could have doubted this show 
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Aug 18, 2015 11:24
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kaworu posted:How good has Hannibal season 3 been? I've been distracted and shamefully have not kept up with it this summer but I am about to. I was also pretty seriously depressed to hear it had been cancelled, since I had such high goddamn hopes for this as a long-term enterprise. The first half was some of the most experimental TV like ever, which was slightly divisive, with some people accusing the show of being overly pretentious. But I loved it and I loved that they had the balls to go there.
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I actually enjoyed the first half of season 3 more than I'm enjoying the second half. I just don't care about Dolarhyde.
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