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Man, I know the world of the show is overflowing with serial killers, but even with those odds Chilton is just the unluckiest guy in the universe.
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One of my pet peeves with blind characters is the "blind character doesn't notice things around them because they can't see it," but I have to wonder if this show is playing that straight or not. She kept glancing, and she can probably smell Chilton/his sweat/the glue used on him/something. I hope it comes up next episode!
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Aug 23, 2015 02:35
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Aug 23, 2015 02:42
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Aug 23, 2015 02:43
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"Where's the other one?" I'm going to miss you, show.
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Aug 23, 2015 02:44
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Man Will, are there no other therapists in the Baltimore area or something?
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Aug 23, 2015 02:47
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Aug 23, 2015 02:50
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Nice burn (no pun intended) when Hannibal talked about Alana's tasty lips.
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Aug 23, 2015 02:53
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Wiggy Marie posted:So I've tuned in to the last few minutes of Aquarius twice now. The first time, it was a scene of a man and woman arguing, then the dude knocked out the chick and invited a bunch of other dudes in to rape her while she was unconcious. Today, I tune in and a dude is stabbing a woman repeatedly with a shovel in the trunk of a car. It's a show about Charles Manson, rape and gendered violence are kind of the core of his entire schitck alongside drugs and white supremacy.
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Aug 23, 2015 03:30
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I'm so bummed this show is ending; that was a great episode. I've been loving this Red Dragon stuff. It looks like my area isn't getting preempted by football for the finale, so at least there's that! ...  The weekly episode hashtags have been trending in my area every week, so at least a few people are watching as it airs. Amazon should seriously pick it up. For the sake of justice, if nothing else. That scene with Chilton and Dolarhyde. Goddamn!
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Aug 23, 2015 04:01
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Yeah that scene reallllllly made me love Armitage's portrayal of Dollarhyde. I never really bought Fiennes portrayal. It was fine, but that whole movie was a boring snoozefest. Noonan's was really just this totally unhinged crazy motherfucker. You can call him whatever you want and it doesn't matter. He's just so looney. Armitage, though. Man, he IS the Great. Red. Dragon.
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Aug 23, 2015 04:06
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Jose Oquendo posted:Yeah that scene reallllllly made me love Armitage's portrayal of Dollarhyde. Red Dragon is the only adaptation that brought up Dollarhyde's sexual abuse as a child and actually brought his internal conflict to the forefront, Fiennes may not have been as imposing or memorable but he was the most sympathetic. And I liked how that factored into the ending where Will uses his knowledge of that abuse to taunt Dollarhyde, disarm him, and ultimately bring him down.
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Aug 23, 2015 04:24
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I loved Fiennes but I do love how well Armitage is committing to being THE GREAT RED DRAAAAAAGON. Like, you sincerely believe that he believes this is what he is. Chilton was so good throughout the episode that it made sense when he was snatched- though of course he survives because somehow that's worse. (This is one reason I'm sad the show won't continue. What would they have done with this? And with Freddie still sneaking around being awful and fabulous?)
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Aug 23, 2015 04:26
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Is it normal for burn victims to be exposed like that? I would've thought that a recent victim would be bandaged up until he grew some skin back.
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Aug 23, 2015 05:30
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If Chilton wasn't nearly dying every season, it wouldn't be the same Hannibal.
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Aug 23, 2015 05:31
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Jonas Albrecht posted:"Where's the other one?" That was the funniest loving thing. It so perfectly encapsulates Hannibal and his opinion of Chilton, like he'll be damned if he's going to let this opportunity to eat part of Chilton's face go to waste (and right in front of Alana, too).
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Aug 23, 2015 06:24
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L_Harrison posted:If Chilton wasn't nearly dying every season, it wouldn't be the same Hannibal. This is the worst loving hospital in all possible worlds.
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Aug 23, 2015 06:29
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Steve Yun posted:Is it normal for burn victims to be exposed like that? I would've thought that a recent victim would be bandaged up until he grew some skin back. This is anecdotal but I remember reading some things about severe burn victims and they frequently have to be cleaned because of pus and blisters and other things of that nature. I don't know much about regrowing skin on that level, but I imagine they'd have to be very careful that it doesn't end up stuck to the bandage or something horrifying like that.
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Steve Yun posted:Is it normal for burn victims to be exposed like that? I would've thought that a recent victim would be bandaged up until he grew some skin back. If the FX team were going for realism as opposed to avoiding a standards and practice crackdown for type 2-3 burns (which would be terrifying to look at - seriously it's all blisters and peeling and having to slice everywhere to avoid tightness) then: Black charring = type 4 burns. He's not graftable. He's probably going to die in hospital in a few months from kidney failure. The upside is that the fire took out his nerves and he'll only be in pain in areas with lesser burns. You don't often see burn victims on TV without them being all bandaged up but burn wards are sterile environmments where the patients are often partially submerged in baths or wear silicone sheets or cadaver skin over their exposed skin while waiting for regrowth or a graft. Compression bandages are used after grafts or amputations. Pressure garments are used for healing without excess scarring. If the FX are realistic then Chilton is beyond that, they need to keep him pumped full of fluids, on dialysis and in a sterile environment and they'll remove pieces of him as they rot off. However, this is TV: Alana recovered from a fall out of a window smack on to her pelvis and still has the use of her legs, no spinal damage! So who knows, maybe we'll see Chilton again with a Mason Verger type taut face in a wheelchair. n3wt fucked around with this message at 11:36 on Aug 23, 2015 |
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Aug 23, 2015 11:12
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If the show was not cancelled, I'd quite like it if Chilton just kept re-appearing every season with some minor changes to his appearance, only to get even more brutally maimed at some point. Its not that I dislike the character or the actor, but we've set a precedent now and I'd like them to keep it.
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Aug 23, 2015 11:35
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Sleeveless posted:It's a show about Charles Manson, rape and gendered violence are kind of the core of his entire schitck alongside drugs and white supremacy. Ah, I see.
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Aug 23, 2015 11:47
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Gorn Myson posted:If the show was not cancelled, I'd quite like it if Chilton just kept re-appearing every season with some minor changes to his appearance, only to get even more brutally maimed at some point. Its not that I dislike the character or the actor, but we've set a precedent now and I'd like them to keep it. I liked the idea of Chilton basically being an iron immortal. Also it's funny how profoundly almost dying and Hannibal changed everyone except for Chilton who was the same basic bitch from the day we met him till now.
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Sleeveless posted:It's a show about Charles Manson, rape and gendered violence are kind of the core of his entire schitck alongside drugs and white supremacy. It's a schtick as outdated and tediously titillating as Manson himself. Every other show has the damsel in danger of rape being saved by a white knight in extremis, the bitch getting smacked up, the fridged or raped girlfriend as motivation/tragic backstory for the hero... Hannibal has been refreshingly different, even though it's a magical wonderworld where serial killers make art and become monsters and angels instead of our real world where serial killers are white males in their 30-40s who feel owed by the world and take it out on women, mostly prostitutes because the police don't investigate very hard if it's someone homeless or a sex worker. Recently a small town in Ohio didn't realize they had a serial killer because he used different methods and all his victims were local sex workers. Seriously, no one bothered to think "Oh hey we've had four murdered ladies turn up and two vanished, I wonder if it's related?". Then a few weeks ago, a sex worker fought back and shot him dead with his own gun: http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/man-killed-west-virginia-could-be-linked-10-other-attacks-n398716 The police put two and two together when they found his "kill kit" in his car and a list of future victims..and now they're scrambling to not look like complete idiots as this guy travelled the country killing women unchecked. n3wt fucked around with this message at 12:13 on Aug 23, 2015 |
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In an ideal word they would have adapted the Clarice Starling novels then Robocop with Chilton.
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Can you imagine what a robot cop would look like in Hannibal's universe tho? I'd imagine it would be ~symbolic~ in the most ridiculous ways 
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CHiRAL posted:Can you imagine what a robot cop would look like in Hannibal's universe tho? Almost inconceivably horrifying, but with no rear end crack.
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Gorn Myson posted:If the show was not cancelled, I'd quite like it if Chilton just kept re-appearing every season with some minor changes to his appearance, only to get even more brutally maimed at some point. Its not that I dislike the character or the actor, but we've set a precedent now and I'd like them to keep it. And all of Fredrick's "Petty Torments" would be all the more justified. Although I don't know if Hannibal would do the same thing to him released. Not even cannibals like their meals burnt.
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So is murder husbands basically canon now? I can't believe they actually did that. Not that I'm complaining. 
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I remember around this point of the last season that Fuller was still insisting this show was about "heterosexual male friendship."
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Aug 23, 2015 20:27
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Shortly before the beginning of the series, Chilton, having realized what kind of fictional world he lived in, wished on a monkey's paw that he would never be murdered by a serial killer.
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I know Anthony Hopkins is iconic in Silence of the Lambs, but to me Mads feels a lot more sinister and dangerous.
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Aug 24, 2015 00:14
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Silence of the Lambs is still an absolutely incredible movie and Hopkins as Lecter is great in it.... but Mads is the guy I associate with the character now.
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Wiggy Marie posted:One of my pet peeves with blind characters is the "blind character doesn't notice things around them because they can't see it," but I have to wonder if this show is playing that straight or not. She kept glancing, and she can probably smell Chilton/his sweat/the glue used on him/something. I hope it comes up next episode! Yeah it seemed she totally felt/heard/smelled him and kept turning that way. Also why dolla tied her up at the end Aquarius is good but I'd rather it was just a 1960's Duchovny L.A. cop show and he was playing Californication Hank Moody's WWII vet uncle or something (which he's basically doing). His LSD trip was great. Manson sucks and I hope they change history and just shoot him in the face (or feed his face to a very young Hannibal Lector) Keyser_Soze fucked around with this message at 02:06 on Aug 24, 2015 |
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Maybe she just figured that Dolarhyde was closeted and trying to keep it on the down-low? 
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Jerusalem posted:Silence of the Lambs is still an absolutely incredible movie and Hopkins as Lecter is great in it.... but Mads is the guy I associate with the character now. Likewise. Hopkins is a great actor but in SOTL he does a lot of things where he's clearly trying to play up the insane aspect of Hannibal ("I ate his liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti." *THETHETHETHETH*). Mads just plays it straight for the most part and occasionally the mask slips off and you see the real Hannibal. There's one particular shot in the first season right after Abigail realizes who he is and asks him how many people he's killed. I can't find a screenshot of the exact moment, but when he responds "Many more than your father," and looks down at her with his hand on the side of her face, the cold look from Mikkelsen along with the lighting of the scene makes him look more evil than anyone I've ever seen in a movie or TV show or anything else.
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Aug 24, 2015 02:58
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Hopkins had considerably less time to make an impression. The movie still holds up really well. And then we got the movie Hannibal. It's very pretty! And it has a pretty score!
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The Silence of the Lambs is great but the opening credits are loving awful. Just the worst early-90s CGI block letters you can imagine. Also the human head prop they find in the storage level is terrible, it really makes you appreciate how Hannibal goes all-out with its practical effects and design.
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Aug 24, 2015 03:11
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Yeah but then we got a loving carnival barker game stuffed tiger so it evens out.
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NoEyedSquareGuy posted:Likewise. Hopkins is a great actor but in SOTL he does a lot of things where he's clearly trying to play up the insane aspect of Hannibal ("I ate his liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti." *THETHETHETHETH*). Mads just plays it straight for the most part and occasionally the mask slips off and you see the real Hannibal. There's one particular shot in the first season right after Abigail realizes who he is and asks him how many people he's killed. I can't find a screenshot of the exact moment, but when he responds "Many more than your father," and looks down at her with his hand on the side of her face, the cold look from Mikkelsen along with the lighting of the scene makes him look more evil than anyone I've ever seen in a movie or TV show or anything else. I still think back to Beverly going into his cellar and you see that brief glimpse of him in the half-darkness. And then in one quick movement he turns the lights off and darts off into the shadows.
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King Vidiot posted:I still think back to Beverly going into his cellar and you see that brief glimpse of him in the half-darkness. And then in one quick movement he turns the lights off and darts off into the shadows. It's important to note that in that scene he's wearing one of the most Hannibal suits in the entire run of the show. Possibly surpassed by his dinner party suit from the beginning of this season, but that's a matter of preference.
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