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showbiz_liz posted:I really would have enjoyed some sort of small role for Michael C. Hall on this show, just playing a totally normal dude who is in no way a serial killer. He might have made a funny Franklin (though Steve Yun's suggestion is better) and hey I just realized where I'd seen Franklin's actor before. That has been driving me crazy since I first saw those episodes.
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The AV Club did an article comparing the original Red Dragon novel, Manhunter and Ratner's red Dragon, with a bit of the tv show thrown in: Tracking Hannibal Lecter, from Manhunter to Red Dragon. I know this is an unpopular opinion, but I'm not a lover of Manhunter. I don't think it's a bad movie, but Dolarhyde wasn't done very well in it and I find him infinitely more interesting than Hannibal. It's also painfully 80s, so much so that it's dated to me. Brian Cox does a good Hannibal, though.
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Wiggy Marie posted:I know this is an unpopular opinion, but I'm not a lover of Manhunter. I don't think it's a bad movie, but Dolarhyde wasn't done very well in it and I find him infinitely more interesting than Hannibal. I had a lot of problems with Red Dragon (2002?) as well but Lord Voldemort was a way better Dolarhyde. But the series' Dolarhyde is by far the best yet. Bonus points for him being naked in pretty much all the episodes.
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It was inevitable that, like the novel, a t.v. show would have more time to fully flesh-out Dollarhyde's character than a two hour film. Red Dragon did a better job at it than Manhunter, but in focusing more on Dollarhyde it made it tougher for Ed Norton's Will Graham to make an impression. Manhunter focuses so little on Dollarhyde that he becomes more mysterious than in the other adaptations, and the audience feels more like they are in Graham's shoes investigating the crimes. I like them all though, and I really enjoy that there are so many different versions of Lecter out there. It feels appropriate that he should be some sort of Dracula/Lucifer figure that can take on many forms in our "mythology".
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Basebf555 posted:It was inevitable that, like the novel, a t.v. show would have more time to fully flesh-out Dollarhyde's character than a two hour film. Red Dragon did a better job at it than Manhunter, but in focusing more on Dollarhyde it made it tougher for Ed Norton's Will Graham to make an impression. Manhunter focuses so little on Dollarhyde that he becomes more mysterious than in the other adaptations, and the audience feels more like they are in Graham's shoes investigating the crimes. The thing I like about Manhunter, that the article did not, was that I liked Noonan's Dolarhyde a lot. He comes off as creepy, but sometimes for movie like that, less is more. It's why I love Silence, but really feel Hopkin's Lecter is played out in Red Dragon.
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I like book Red Dragon the best, though this adaptation is pretty good. Just wish they had that bit in about having night vision film and crawling into bed between a couple, ergh. After the last episode I have really enjoyed the whole arc a lot better, especially how savage and bloody the revealing scene was compared to everything else we've seen in the show. Even Mecha-Bear was relatively clean compared to having Chilton having his lips bitten off and then his whole body set on fire. Which also just reminded me how horrifying the sound was in the burn scene in the first season. I've also enjoyed the projection of characters to a sort of fantasy version. Lecter is a black guy with horns, Dolarhyde is a muscle dragon man and Will is a feathered stag? Maybe Clarice can be a sheep with Jodie Foster's face. Also; n3wt posted:You don't often see burn victims on TV without them being all bandaged up but burn wards are sterile environmments where the patients are often partially submerged in baths or wear silicone sheets or cadaver skin over their exposed skin while waiting for regrowth or a graft. They dress burn victims up in the skin off corpses? Sounds like if there was another Chilton wouldn't have been any better off.
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Steve Yun posted:A funeral director He meets Hannibal and Will and with quiet disgust mutters to himself,"Are these guys fags?"
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justcola posted:They dress burn victims up in the skin off corpses? Sounds like if there was another Chilton wouldn't have been any better off. How did that somehow not make it on the show ? it writes itself.
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Kuiperdolin posted:How did that somehow not make it on the show ? it writes itself. There's still a perfectly good face lying on the floor somewhere at Muskrat Farms if Chilton wants to use that one.
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Those loving lips are going to haunt my dreams.
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I wasn't the only one who burst out laughing when Hannibal sucked those lips into his mouth like spaghetti, was I?
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Catsplosion posted:I wasn't the only one who burst out laughing when Hannibal sucked those lips into his mouth like spaghetti, was I? Yes. You were the only one. How does that make you feel? Do you ever wonder what could be wrong with you?
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People used to say Spartacus was more gory. Is that still true? edit: as far as I know, Hannibal is the goriest thing on network TV in history, which is something insane when it consistently shows up in top 10 lists of goriest tv shows next to 9 other cable shows Steve Yun fucked around with this message at 16:18 on Aug 26, 2015 |
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Spartacus had a lot of fake blood flying everywhere, most of it was pretty nondescript. Hannibal has a lot of body mutilation that you don't see much on TV. It looks very real too which is a feat to behold.
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Preview for the finale episode. If you want to know whether the finale will diverge from the source or not, go ahead and click: https://www.facebook.com/NBCHannibal/videos/vb.383662898323153/950757718280332/?type=3&theater That's uhhh a probably a really bad idea, Will.
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pookerbug posted:Yes. You were the only one. How does that make you feel? Do you ever wonder what could be wrong with you? I... I let you know me, see me. It was just so perfectly cut and not only the gigantic smug smile on Hannibals face but the expression he makes when turning from Alana to Jack was just too much.
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Steve Yun posted:Preview for the finale episode. If you want to know whether the finale will diverge from the source or not, go ahead and click: I hope the episode is extra long at least.
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Steve Yun posted:People used to say Spartacus was more gory. Is that still true? Spartacus was more gory but Hannibal is far more realistic and as a result more disturbing than Spartacus ever was.
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The Following isn't as gory but the level of violence was pretty much unmatched for network TV. I swear at least 3 people get knifed every episode and it's usually Kevin Bacon doing the stabbing.
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 My friend got me the artbook signed by Martha DeLaurentis, Hugh Dancy, Bryan Fuller and Richard Armitage, all she wanted in return was a replacement copy of the book. She just gave me the autographed one because I'm a huge nerd about the show. Just need to stalk Mads Mikkelsen now Steve Yun fucked around with this message at 20:37 on Aug 26, 2015 |
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You lucky bastard. Of course, Morgan Freeman and Brad Pitt are gonna show up at your house one rainy day now. 
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Steve Yun posted:Preview for the finale episode. If you want to know whether the finale will diverge from the source or not, go ahead and click: I am simultaneously so ready and so unprepared
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I'm not watching any of the preview videos, but I do want to say that Sepinwall told people they need to watch through the credits of the finale. Which makes sense - that happened at the end of S2 as well - but figured it's worth reminding people.
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That preview makes it sound like they're going to try something incredibly stupid to catch Dollarhyde and Hannibal will escape because their plan really will be that stupid.
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Entropic posted:try something incredibly stupid I love Jack, but this is pretty much his entire strategy in regards to catching serial killers.
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Mameluke posted:How much less prepared do you want to be? (very spoilery) ffffffffffffffffffffuck I am hype for this finale.
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Is there any way to find out if you're in one of the areas where it'll be pre-empted by football? That's already happened once or twice here and goddamnit NBC, I just want to watch the series finale ( ) of Hannibal this weekend. Why is that so much to ask?
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Filez after tomorrow. It still airs on Thursday in Canada. I don't normally approve of piracy but let's face it, it's a cancelled show that airs on free tv.
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Parasol Prophet posted:Is there any way to find out if you're in one of the areas where it'll be pre-empted by football? That's already happened once or twice here and goddamnit NBC, I just want to watch the series finale ( Yeah, at this point they're pretty much telling you to download it from the canadians because pre-season football is *really important* television! Really says a lot that they can't even be bothered to consistently air the finale of a critically acclaimed show that could actually win the network a boatload of awards and nice revenue from dvd sales/reruns. Someone at the top at NBC is a hater - probably annoyed by too much "gay", art in general or having to use their brain. edit to add actual relavant information HANNIBAL FINALE PREEMPTIONS! https://www.facebook.com/DeLaurentiisCo/posts/588709434600144 n3wt fucked around with this message at 17:31 on Aug 27, 2015 |
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n3wt posted:Someone at the top at NBC is a hater - probably annoyed by too much "gay", art in general or having to use their brain. I mean, it DOES have absolutely dismal ratings, and it did before they moved it to Saturdays. Not that they HAD to cancel it, but it wasn't exactly a stunning upset when they did.
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showbiz_liz posted:I mean, it DOES have absolutely dismal ratings, and it did before they moved it to Saturdays. Not that they HAD to cancel it, but it wasn't exactly a stunning upset when they did. I know, I know but I love it when a network sticks to their guns and airs a show for the prestige not the ratings. Same with movies getting financed: someone with the purse strings takes a leap of faith and it might take ten years to become a cult movie but it's so worth it.
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Mameluke posted:How much less prepared do you want to be? (very spoilery) Well, my body is ready.
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There's a moment in that preview that has me really bummed because it looks like they're pulling out all the stops and leaving it open for an interesting next season. Now that season will likely never happen  Of course that moment could also be a dream sequence or something so who knows.
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Has Hannibal been smiling pretty much constantly whilst in prison? He even laughed the other episode. Looking forward to tomorrow. Going to make steak tartar and smoke a huge joint. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSC_6J62brY
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justcola posted:Has Hannibal been smiling pretty much constantly whilst in prison? He even laughed the other episode. I feel like Mads has been going out of his way to try to match the expression Hopkins has on his face in most of his SotL scenes.
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