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In my opinion if you're going to spam unforted temples and make priests out of them every turn they may as well be making their own skeletons 
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Prepares for an counters enemy invasion. Loses in 1 turn to ponies who are his other neighbor.
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Turn 20: IRC Quote of the Turn: (1:09:30 PM) FatSamurai: Everything in Dominions ends in tears More troop movements, in a circle almost.  I found some elusive lights!  And my scout was discovered by some longdead.  Poor guy. I’ve got a nice little set of gems now. I should start making it work for me soon.  I’ve decided to finally make my move - I’ve been holding off on attacking Morlockia (Burlap) for a while, but he’s got a fancy new castle on my borders, I need to do something about it.  Time to start making some ancient ones. What could possibly go wrong? I’ve also sent various mages out site searching, and my scouts are once again moving around the map, trying to track who’s doing what. Knowing who’s actually attacking whom and general locations are very useful. So is diplomacy. I’m moving a LOT of troops around.  Lets see if they all die horribly! I’m rather constrained right now - at least I seem to have stable borders, though that could change very quickly! End Turn! Baudin fucked around with this message at 19:23 on Sep 14, 2015 |
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Sep 14, 2015 19:14
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Still baffled that you picked Ancient Ones for any reason whatsoever.
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Sep 14, 2015 20:27
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Units getting younger is good news for everybody, right? Nobody's getting aged back into children or anything?
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How are u posted:Still baffled that you picked Ancient Ones for any reason whatsoever. If my opening post where I detail that I'm bad at this game hasn't clued you in yet I don't know if I can help you.
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Sep 15, 2015 08:16
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Glazius posted:Units getting younger is good news for everybody, right? Nobody's getting aged back into children or anything? Yup. In fact one nation, Hinnom, can get literal infants as event units who fight like fully grown baby eating giants.
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Sep 15, 2015 14:50
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fool_of_sound posted:Yup. In fact one nation, Hinnom, can get literal infants as event units who fight like fully grown baby eating giants. I cannot find these guys in Mod Inspector and it's imperative I do so. Please tell me how the murderous giant babies are called. I understand this may be a joke, but I want to believe.
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Sep 15, 2015 15:08
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They're generic Nephilim that you get from events triggered by having Grigori around - look up Nephil in the mod inspector
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Sep 15, 2015 15:14
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Nephil are the offspring between Grigori and Avvi, not murderous giant babies  On the other hand, pixel dicks, which are fun in their own way.
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Fat Samurai posted:Nephil are the offspring between Grigori and Avvi, not murderous giant babies That's actually exactly what they are. The events are all "<grigori> has sired an offspring" Implying that the Nephil you get from the event has just been born. Implying that it is, in fact, a giant murderous baby
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ChickenWing posted:That's actually exactly what they are. Maybe the message from your civil registry office was just really, really late. Like "Oh yeah, that rampaging giant? He was born eighteen years ago. Turns out that grigori under your command sired him about 19 years ago. Sorry we never mentioned this until now, our bad. Here's the birth certificate, by the way. We put today's date on it so it doesn't look like we're incompetent jackasses processing stuff 19 years too late"
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Sep 15, 2015 16:06
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Fat Samurai posted:Nephil are the offspring between Grigori and Avvi, not murderous giant babies Congratulations! It's a beautiful bouncing monster giant! Oh he's eating me
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Sep 15, 2015 17:43
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They are born horny.
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same.
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Sep 15, 2015 19:58
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gbuchold posted:Note their Age: 1 (1000) I'm telling you, that's just a filing error. Someone should file a complaint about shoddy bureaucracy with whoever your pretender put in charge of the civil registry.
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Sep 15, 2015 22:03
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e: wrong thread
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Etalommi posted:Baudin and I are hosting a nationgens blitz Sunday. We'll use the FuckYou rules, so random unseen nations (no peeking!) and random gods. It's great because you don't have to have your stupid nation for too long, like the suckers in the real game do. He's bad and I'm new so if you're starting out and want to try blitz/nationgen, now is the time. If your experienced and want to experiment, netflix and chill, you do you. Tom Clancy is Dead fucked around with this message at 06:05 on Sep 19, 2015 |
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Sep 19, 2015 06:03
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Turn 21: The Mongler Horde is officially dead.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNmiNJMxPF8 And I managed to do it again, when it comes to starvation.  It also appears as if my target know I’m planning to invade soon.  That is a lot of earthbound.  And this is all that I have to bring to the party. It might not be enough, so I’m moving troops in from my other forts. I’ve also ordered my water mage (former giant) hero to craft one of these:  If I can keep him alive long enough maybe I’ll start summoning cool things, or use him to do cool water based things. Highly unlikely though. I’ve also started to recruit Magister Arcanes in my capital. I have a lot of resources, so I probably don’t need to worry too much about master smiths for now there.  End Turn!
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Sep 19, 2015 18:02
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Etalommi posted:Since no one has expressed a preference, be on IRC at 19:00 UTC if you want to play in the randomnations blitz.
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Baudin posted:It also appears as if my target know I’m planning to invade soon. From the other side of the border this turn, what Baudin thought was a defensive buildup on my part was actually a barrier action against Thespookydanger. Elves in dominions have an ability called glamour, which gives them mirror images in combat, and makes them completely and utterly undetectable on the strategic map. They also get +65 stealth, so they can bypass outer provinces and go straight to besieging your forts, if they so chose. With a neighbor like that, you have to be aware that they might try something if you don't show them a lot of army. So in this case since Thespookydanger hasn't been sounding particularly friendly, I've sent longdead and earthbound to patrol our border. My territory at this point is the same size as Baudin's (very small), so that front is also visible from Baudin's side. Unfortunately, at this point Baudin's done a good job of diplomacy, acting like he wants to deal with the elf threat. So next turn is going to be a nasty surprise for me.
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BurlapNapkin posted:From the other side of the border this turn, what Baudin thought was a defensive buildup on my part was actually a barrier action against Thespookydanger. Elves in dominions have an ability called glamour, which gives them mirror images in combat, and makes them completely and utterly undetectable on the strategic map. They also get +65 stealth, so they can bypass outer provinces and go straight to besieging your forts, if they so chose. I cant wait to see it!
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Sep 21, 2015 19:47
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I was under the impression the game was like zany expensive for a computer- paradox level- but it looks like it is 35 bucks on steam. Am I missing something here?
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Sep 23, 2015 15:16
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Naw, it used to be zany expensive but then Illwinter went to Steam and learned what a real computer game costs. It's still pretty fuckin expensive for what it is though.
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Sep 23, 2015 15:22
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It goes on sale for 1/2 off pretty often. Grab it then!
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Sep 23, 2015 15:34
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Neruz posted:Naw, it used to be zany expensive but then Illwinter went to Steam and learned what a real computer game costs. Invisible Hand of the Free Market will be my pretender name if I buy this game someday.
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Ramc posted:I was under the impression the game was like zany expensive for a computer- paradox level- but it looks like it is 35 bucks on steam. Am I missing something here? It has gone down to $5 iirc during holiday sales. e: I paid $70 for Dom 3
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Ramc posted:I was under the impression the game was like zany expensive for a computer- paradox level- but it looks like it is 35 bucks on steam. Am I missing something here?
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Neruz posted:Naw, it used to be zany expensive but then Illwinter went to Steam and learned what a real computer game costs. They were under contract with Shrapnel, and had no say in pricing until about 6 months before Dom4 came out. Then they got on Steam and Desura and never looked back. I paid full price for a physical copy of Dom3
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Same here. The manual is loving huge.
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That was actually a topic point in the old Dom 3 threads." Yes we know the game is expensive. Stfu talking about the game price."
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Turn 22: Nothing important happened, thank goodness.  I’ve decided to make my move - probably waiting too long and giving my target a lot of notice. Still, how badly could it go!  I’ve also decided to summon a pack of wolves  I’ll be summoning another turn of these and then moving them next door. Time to start doing blood hunting. Not that I’ll start on blood magic right away.  I’ve also ordered my nearby troops to move to my capital. From there I’ll reinforce the other troops. Not that I have a lot of them.  I’ve also equipped the Robe of the Sea to my water powered hero  Here’s an overview of the entire map:  Lets see if I manage to not-die next turn, or if my troops all die to skeletons and death magic!
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Turn 23: Of note Theai (Kitfox88) has now been killed off. Two down, tons more to go. Now for my first real engagement. I’m very nervous about the results. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cY4OYHxHP6w  Ok that’s interesting. I think I just killed about 1k worth of stuff. drat.  Apparently Pax (Fleurs) lost a single Dai Oni to a pack of Barbarian invaders.  And Goran (Rotekian) lost a lot of dudes taking a throne   Rest in peace, glorious Titan of Heaven  Now to see if I can not-die to those hordes of deadly skeleton men.  This is going to depend in large part on turn order - if my troops move first I can escape his deadly, deadly wrath. Otherwise I’ve got problems. This could be interesting… I’m also moving to finish off evocation 5 so I don’t have to worry about those hordes of skeletons. At this point I also ask around for advice on map movement, wights, and earthquake - in general the map movement advice is “it’s pretty much random,” the wights advice are “they suck” and earthquake “rocks.” Awesome.
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Movement seems complicated, but I learned from jousting with Thespo all game (he also invades me this turn) that it's actually predictable. First something weird with stealth move happens, units are considered to be stealthed but do not yet move. Rituals that would cause battles with them or hit them find nothing. Stealth attack moves will unstealth units and put them in the move order, I am unsure if a ritual targeting the province where an army initiates a stealth attack move will hit them. Next up rituals go off, which actually do cause an immediate magic battle phase if applicable. This means that, since movement has not happened yet, wizards will screw with your armies where they were standing last turn, not where they will be on the new turn (if they survive). After magicks assassins can strike, again before movement. If a commander is killed before he can move his troops, they don't move and such. After that, movement happens. There is a distinction between friendly and enemy movement that actually isn't super helpful to understanding how movement works. The statement is that moves into friendly territory happen first, but actually since there is only one way for units moving to block other units moving (more on that later), it's pretty unimportant. Basically all units complete their move orders if valid, and take up their new state in a province. Note that this can be safely inside a fort, ignoring battles. The aforementioned movement interruption, in my experience, only occurs when two units move into eachother's province. The game then has to decide in which province combat occurs, how it picks this seems to have some randomization, but again, only happens when two armies are attacking the province the other was in at the end of the turn. The game needs to get them to fight, and without this special case they would not, because... Finally the main battle phase happens. This takes all units that are in the same province and calculates a battle for them (being in a fort is not considered to be in a province, patrolling in a fortified province is). Units that retreat (win or lose) will try to move to a friendly province after battle resolution, they will not fight if there is no friendly province, in some kind of non-combat state. These units are killed during the turn's cleanup for being in enemy territory. Did I say finally? There are actually 3 further battle phases *after* the main battle phase. Immediately following is the storm forts order, this is not a main battle phase action, mostly so that it does not interfere with a friendly force moving into a province from outside, joined by a 'break siege' (move to province) order from inside the fort. Basically storming has to wait until after battles, units storming can end up fighting two battles in a turn this way, watch out for your gem use. Then random events happen, indies invade you mostly. A bunch of further stuff happens, and there is a final, rarely used battle phase for summon malfunctions and the like. Hope that was informative. The main takeaway is that movement is a bit complicated, and people who have a vague understanding of how it works will screw you over with it.
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Movement can also be interrupted if the path along which the units were gonna move is broken and there are no other paths (only possible using magic or stealth units already in the province because of turn order) and by putting up the perpetual storm global which will cancel all flying and sailing moves that aren't possible without those things, I am not sure if moves that are possible without them go through if your army has either. In addition, two armies can in fact "miss" each other and end up switching provinces.
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Sep 23, 2015 22:51
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Ah, so it's kind of like Diplomacy movement rules, where the destination is the only thing that matters.
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Glazius posted:Ah, so it's kind of like Diplomacy movement rules, where the destination is the only thing that matters. Yes that's a good general rule of thumb, but I've not actually elbowed around in their code or anything. Absum seems to have observed conditions where an army in the only province path available to a destination gets in the way, and it may actually check the path for that? But it would be friendly movement, so in theory it would 'go first' anyway. If one of the random outcomes of charging at each-other is actually getting lost and not fighting that's hilarious (though it hasn't happened to me yet).
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Armies missing each other is really rare. If you want to see it happen you'd probably have to use two full glamour armies. The interrupting movement thing I specifically mention it has to be magic or already-present stealth units. Normal enemy movement can indeed never cancel movement because friendly movement does happen first.
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Glazius posted:Ah, so it's kind of like Diplomacy movement rules, where the destination is the only thing that matters. If you grok this you get 95% of army movement cases in Dominions. The remaining 5% is when an army is moving directly opposite to an enemy army, "into each others' provinces". In that case alone, who moves is random. Nothing else is random. Then magic fucks you over but magic always does that.
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