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d0s
Jun 28, 2004



hitze posted:

I haven't had Win 10 restart by itself yet

It happens if your computer is on but you miss the dialog asking when you want to schedule a restart. Instead of waiting for you it just reboots itself, which to me seems like absolutely crazy behavior. Like I get why it's a default but the fact that it seems like there's no way to turn it off is really strange

EDIT: If anyone else is having this problem I think this is the fix: http://windowsinstructed.com/preven...after-updating/

We'll see how it goes next update

d0s fucked around with this message at 23:08 on Aug 23, 2015

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Rurutia
Jun 11, 2009


d0s posted:

It happens if your computer is on but you miss the dialog asking when you want to schedule a restart. Instead of waiting for you it just reboots itself, which to me seems like absolutely crazy behavior. Like I get why it's a default but the fact that it seems like there's no way to turn it off is really strange

EDIT: If anyone else is having this problem I think this is the fix: http://windowsinstructed.com/preven...after-updating/

We'll see how it goes next update

I don't think it's intended behavior. On my computers, as long as I don't touch the notification that appears in the notification center it'll let me wait as long as I want. Once I touch to reschedule, it will reschedule automatically at a time where I don't use my computer.

Double Punctuation
Dec 30, 2009

Ships were made for sinking;
Whiskey made for drinking;
If we were made of cellophane
We'd all get stinking drunk much faster!


Keep in mind that the policy is, "No Auto-Restart with logged on users for scheduled automatic update installations," If you log out, it's going to restart, regardless of any services you may be running.

Dylan16807
May 12, 2010


socialsecurity posted:

Don't assume grand conspiracy, where simple incompetence makes more sense.

Microsoft loves to artificially segment on weird simple features. That's not a grand conspiracy.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me





Rurutia posted:

I don't think it's intended behavior. On my computers, as long as I don't touch the notification that appears in the notification center it'll let me wait as long as I want. Once I touch to reschedule, it will reschedule automatically at a time where I don't use my computer.
Yeah, I had a notification in my tray since Thursday for "Schedule restart to apply updates" with my computer set to Always On, but I didn't bother responding to it until Sunday night when I needed to restart anyway.

wormil
Sep 12, 2002

Hulk will smoke you!

W10, Chrome, and Youtube really don't play well. My display driver stops responding over and over, like every couple of minutes, while watching Youtube in Chrome. I have onboard video, Intel2000. Googled the problem but I can't find anything useful.

Repo Man
Nov 19, 2005


wormil posted:

W10, Chrome, and Youtube really don't play well. My display driver stops responding over and over, like every couple of minutes, while watching Youtube in Chrome. I have onboard video, Intel2000. Googled the problem but I can't find anything useful.

I can tell you that those things work fine together on my system, but I have a GTX 750 Ti, which I'm sure makes all the difference.

Is it any better with another browser?

Tapedump
Aug 31, 2007


College Slice

d0s posted:

Don't people run servers on Win 10?
You're qualifying "people" as non-enterprise, non-business, non-SOHO, non-"this is actually important and not just Plex/Vent/Minecraft," right?

(As well as anyone running such important-to-them stuff on a 3+ wks old OS?)

Then, yes.

I mean, I take your meaning, but it's kind of a nonsensical point.

Stanley Pain
Jun 16, 2001

Bit. Trip. RIP.


wormil posted:

W10, Chrome, and Youtube really don't play well. My display driver stops responding over and over, like every couple of minutes, while watching Youtube in Chrome. I have onboard video, Intel2000. Googled the problem but I can't find anything useful.

I've had really awful audio/video stuttering on an i7-3770 and GTX 970s. Fixed my issue by lowering the bitrate/frequency on my audio output. I had it set at 32bit/192kHz (yes I actually have audio files ripped and encoded at this setting). I lowered it to 24bit/48kHz and the issue has pretty much disappeared. Worth checking to see what it's set at for you.

GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

My HP laptop has battery issues in Windows 10. If I shut the laptop off, the battery keeps draining. Every single god drat time I power it up it has 0% battery and needs to recharge. And yes, I'm shutting it down and not putting it in sleep or hibernation. It's nuts.

Stanley Pain
Jun 16, 2001

Bit. Trip. RIP.


GreenNight posted:

My HP laptop has battery issues in Windows 10. If I shut the laptop off, the battery keeps draining. Every single god drat time I power it up it has 0% battery and needs to recharge. And yes, I'm shutting it down and not putting it in sleep or hibernation. It's nuts.

If it's completely powered off the OS has nothing to do with the power drain, unless I'm missing something.

GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

Stanley Pain posted:

If it's completely powered off the OS has nothing to do with the power drain, unless I'm missing something.

Worked perfectly fine in Windows 8.1.

Skarsnik
Oct 21, 2008

I...AM...RUUUDE!






I've had terrible battery problems on my phone recently and its probably because I installed win 10 on my pc

windows 10!

Stanley Pain
Jun 16, 2001

Bit. Trip. RIP.


GreenNight posted:

Worked perfectly fine in Windows 8.1.

Then your shutdown isn't actually powering off your laptop. Are you shutting down then immediately closing the lid?

GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

Stanley Pain posted:

Then your shutdown isn't actually powering off your laptop. Are you shutting down then immediately closing the lid?

That's exactly what it sounds like. I've experimented by shutting it down then letting it sit there with the laptop open for hours. I shut it down at 100%, then a half day later I power it back up and it's at 20%.

Stanley Pain
Jun 16, 2001

Bit. Trip. RIP.


GreenNight posted:

That's exactly what it sounds like. I've experimented by shutting it down then letting it sit there with the laptop open for hours. I shut it down at 100%, then a half day later I power it back up and it's at 20%.

What happens if you just hold the power button down to turn it off? See if it still drains that was as a test.

GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

Stanley Pain posted:

What happens if you just hold the power button down to turn it off? See if it still drains that was as a test.

Good call. I'll try that out.

wormil
Sep 12, 2002

Hulk will smoke you!

Repo Man posted:

I can tell you that those things work fine together on my system, but I have a GTX 750 Ti, which I'm sure makes all the difference.

Is it any better with another browser?

Yes, so far is fine in Edge. I don't use Firefox.

I found others bitching about the same problem but no solutions. I tried an extension that disables html5 but that didn't help. Worse yet is that after a few times my computer freezes and I have to cut power.

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011






I think I might roll back to Windows 8.1 until DirectX 12 games start showing up.

Over the last two weeks I've had more bluescreens than I had in my entire time using Windows 8 (from launch), and every few days when I turn my computer on in the morning, the BIOS needs to restore itself from the backup ROM. Last night I put my computer into sleep mode instead of a full shutdown to see what would happen, and when I woke it back up today, it fired up and then bluescreened attempting to write to read-only memory. Now, bluescreen errors being as vague as they are, I opened up the event viewer and grabbed a calculator and the Intel 64 System Programming Guide, found the bug check parameters for ATTEMPTED_WRITE_TO_READONLY_MEMORY, and decoded the page table entry, which was mapped read-only and execute-disable pointed at 9MB physical.

I don't even know what the gently caress Windows was trying to do but I'm wondering if poo poo like this is related in some way to my apparent BIOS issues.

redeyes
Sep 14, 2002
I LOVE THE WHITE STRIPES!

Kazinsal posted:

I think I might roll back to Windows 8.1 until DirectX 12 games start showing up.

Over the last two weeks I've had more bluescreens than I had in my entire time using Windows 8 (from launch), and every few days when I turn my computer on in the morning, the BIOS needs to restore itself from the backup ROM. Last night I put my computer into sleep mode instead of a full shutdown to see what would happen, and when I woke it back up today, it fired up and then bluescreened attempting to write to read-only memory. Now, bluescreen errors being as vague as they are, I opened up the event viewer and grabbed a calculator and the Intel 64 System Programming Guide, found the bug check parameters for ATTEMPTED_WRITE_TO_READONLY_MEMORY, and decoded the page table entry, which was mapped read-only and execute-disable pointed at 9MB physical.

I don't even know what the gently caress Windows was trying to do but I'm wondering if poo poo like this is related in some way to my apparent BIOS issues.

Run bluescreenview from: http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/blue_screen_view.html

See what it points to

Lutha Mahtin
Oct 10, 2010

Your brokebrain sin is absolved...go and shitpost no more!


major spergin incomign

For over a decade I have used a category system for the Start menu. This reached its peak during my time using Win7, where the root level is mostly folders, like Games, Programming, Multimedia, etc., and within each category folder is a single icon to launch each relevant program, and if a program has ancillary things that I might actually care about (e.g. PDF manuals for a game, or source code utilities that come with an IDE) they get their own sub-folder within the relevant category folder. Upgrading from Win7, the new Start menu makes this system unusable. For example, my "Games" folder is still there under "G" but when I click to expand it all the silly ancillary things barf forth with the rest of the icons, things that I would normally keep confined to their specific subfolders that in Win7 were nicely kept below the main launching icons of the rest of the folder.

Has my little icon fiefdom finally come to an end? I got to the point where this, combined with the "hit Win-key and type" method was second-nature to me; on the other hand, I'm not opposed to the ideas that the new Start menu is proposing. But it seems like MS has kind of thrown to the wayside any organizational systems besides "have one app icon" or "have all the poo poo for one app inside a single folder".

Also, I don't care if Stardock makes some uber nerdlord custom product, mostly because gently caress Brad Wardell, but also because dealing with ricer UI customization programs is usually an exercise in really fragile setups that don't quite Just Work to the point of near-effortlessness..

Jan
Feb 26, 2008

The disruptive powers of excessive national fecundity may have played a greater part in bursting the bonds of convention than either the power of ideas or the errors of autocracy.

Lutha Mahtin posted:

when I click to expand it all the silly ancillary things barf forth with the rest of the icons, things that I would normally keep confined to their specific subfolders that in Win7 were nicely kept below the main launching icons of the rest of the folder.

Yeah, it's kind of dumb that they're limiting subfolder depth to one level. Since I never use all those extra start menu shortcuts ("Visit MyDumbCompany's Website!"), I ended up deleting the whole thing and adapting to the flat start menu list. It's actually kind of nice that way, but I wish there was a way to show folders in their own group, rather than alongside the alphabetical order.

But then, I wish I had more control over a lot of the things in Windows 10.

Lowtechs
Jan 12, 2001


Grimey Drawer

Lutha Mahtin posted:

major spergin incomign

For over a decade I have used a category system for the Start menu. This reached its peak during my time using Win7, where the root level is mostly folders, like Games, Programming, Multimedia, etc., and within each category folder is a single icon to launch each relevant program, and if a program has ancillary things that I might actually care about (e.g. PDF manuals for a game, or source code utilities that come with an IDE) they get their own sub-folder within the relevant category folder. Upgrading from Win7, the new Start menu makes this system unusable. For example, my "Games" folder is still there under "G" but when I click to expand it all the silly ancillary things barf forth with the rest of the icons, things that I would normally keep confined to their specific subfolders that in Win7 were nicely kept below the main launching icons of the rest of the folder.

Has my little icon fiefdom finally come to an end? I got to the point where this, combined with the "hit Win-key and type" method was second-nature to me; on the other hand, I'm not opposed to the ideas that the new Start menu is proposing. But it seems like MS has kind of thrown to the wayside any organizational systems besides "have one app icon" or "have all the poo poo for one app inside a single folder".

Also, I don't care if Stardock makes some uber nerdlord custom product, mostly because gently caress Brad Wardell, but also because dealing with ricer UI customization programs is usually an exercise in really fragile setups that don't quite Just Work to the point of near-effortlessness..

Maybe try Classic Shell it has Win 10 support now. http://www.classicshell.net/

Richard M Nixon
Apr 26, 2009

"The greatest honor history can bestow is the title of peacemaker."


In Win10, my mapped network drives no longer have a drive letter attached to them. This makes some apps (like Deluge) unable to see the folders. Is there a way to force a drive association instead of the folder thing Win10 tries to do by itself?

Brekelefuw
Dec 16, 2003
I Like Trumpets

Does anyone know of a fix for the boot loop/repair loop?

My computer updated overnight over a week ago and when I woke up it was in repair mode. I have tried every option except to format, because if I have to format I would like to get stuff off the drive prior to doing so.

I tried also making a bootable USB on my laptop and using it to repair my messed up desktop ,but it doesn't work either.

Lutha Mahtin
Oct 10, 2010

Your brokebrain sin is absolved...go and shitpost no more!


Brekelefuw posted:

Does anyone know of a fix for the boot loop/repair loop?

My computer updated overnight over a week ago and when I woke up it was in repair mode. I have tried every option except to format, because if I have to format I would like to get stuff off the drive prior to doing so.

I tried also making a bootable USB on my laptop and using it to repair my messed up desktop ,but it doesn't work either.

is it a certain update that is causing the issue? when my win10 install was still win7 there was an update that failed for a while because i had a linux bootloader and the update needed the windows bootloader for some reason. i was able to fix it by booting from the bios into the windows bootloader instead of GRUB vOv

Botnit
Jun 12, 2015



Trying to use media creation tool to download 10 and all it does is say "Setup couldn't start properly. Please reboot your PC and try running Windows 10 Setup again". I've rebooted, same thing. Deleted media creation tool and redownloaded, same thing.

What the gently caress?

Vidaeus
Jan 27, 2007

Cats are gonna cat.


I'm not sure if this has been asked before, but ever since I did the upgrade from Windows 8 to Windows 10, Facebook doesn't load properly in Chrome. It only shows like 2 stories in the news feed and doesn't load any more when I click on the "More Stories" button. Also, when I click on the notifications, add friends, or messages icons it just pops up the small window where the notifications normally appear and just sits there loading, never displays anything. All other websites seem to be fine. Anyone have any ideas what's going on?

Chrome is telling me that it's already at the latest version.

nielsm
Jun 1, 2009




Fallen Rib

Repo Man posted:

I installed Irfanview (I haven't needed that in years, takes me back to installing ACDSee on Win98 and 2000) but you can only scroll through a couple of photos before this happens:



This is from viewing the thumbnails on the camera's memory card, double clicking on one to open it with Irfanview, then clicking the arrow in either direction to view the other images on the memory card.

If I try to open the camera's folder with Irfanview, it doesn't exist.



Your camera appears to the computer as an "imaging device" (that has storage) rather than a "mass storage device". The "imaging device" protocol on USB can let the hardware present a filesystem-like interface to already recorded images, but it doesn't work as an actual file system. That is, the camera is telling the computer "these are the pictures I have taken".

The "mass storage device" protocol (device class) on the other hand, is general file storage. Some cameras, especially higher end ones, have a setting in its menu to control how it presents itself to the computer. If your camera allows you to switch mode like that, try it. That will essentially make it act like a very expensive and power-hungry memory card reader.

Programs have to be written specially to be able to handle the USB "imaging device" protocol at all. It seems to be a new thing that Windows 10 tries to work around this by copying the pictures over to a temporary folder on the harddrive, then opening the copy in a program.
IrfanView doesn't handle the "imagine device" protocol, that's why your camera doesn't show up there. It only handles normal drives/mass storage devices.

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

careful now


Vidaeus posted:

I'm not sure if this has been asked before, but ever since I did the upgrade from Windows 8 to Windows 10, Facebook doesn't load properly in Chrome. It only shows like 2 stories in the news feed and doesn't load any more when I click on the "More Stories" button. Also, when I click on the notifications, add friends, or messages icons it just pops up the small window where the notifications normally appear and just sits there loading, never displays anything. All other websites seem to be fine. Anyone have any ideas what's going on?

Chrome is telling me that it's already at the latest version.

What, if any, extensions do you have installed? Does logging out of FB and back in help? Are there errors in the JS console?

mAlfunkti0n
May 19, 2004


Fallen Rib

Botnit posted:

Trying to use media creation tool to download 10 and all it does is say "Setup couldn't start properly. Please reboot your PC and try running Windows 10 Setup again". I've rebooted, same thing. Deleted media creation tool and redownloaded, same thing.

What the gently caress?

Don't use this.

Get the ISO (https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/sof...ad/windows10ISO) and use the Windows 7 USB tool (http://wudt.codeplex.com/). Use the tool to create the USB media (or DVD, whatever you want). I just did that this weekend for a friends system that was totally hosed.

wolrah
May 8, 2006
what?


Richard M Nixon posted:

In Win10, my mapped network drives no longer have a drive letter attached to them. This makes some apps (like Deluge) unable to see the folders. Is there a way to force a drive association instead of the folder thing Win10 tries to do by itself?
Uh...screenshot? Maybe with a right click > Properties in there too?

I think you may have ended up with some other kind of network share shortcut. Mapped drives definitely still have letters just like always.

wormil
Sep 12, 2002

Hulk will smoke you!

I think Chrome in general is going down the tubes. I started having problems with it sometime back on W7 and now this issue with YouTube. It froze my computer for several minutes last night. Been reading of more issues after W10 upgrade. Probably time to move back to Firefox until Edge gets sorted.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

Maybe you have some sort of hardware problem. I've never hard of that issue before and I'm constantly on youtube with chrome.

Dogen
May 5, 2002

Bury my body down by the highwayside, so that my old evil spirit can get a Greyhound bus and ride


wormil posted:

I think Chrome in general is going down the tubes. I started having problems with it sometime back on W7 and now this issue with YouTube. It froze my computer for several minutes last night. Been reading of more issues after W10 upgrade. Probably time to move back to Firefox until Edge gets sorted.

The most recent build of W10 if you're on the insider fast ring totally fucks up the x64 branch, if you install x86 it works. Don't really see that as Chrome's fault.

Shlomo Palestein
Apr 16, 2003






Update to my sleep/hibernation/who-knows problem.

To summarize: if I leave the PC idle for a certain period (looks like it's outside a few hours, maybe 3-4?), it will sleep/hibernate and won't be wakable without restarting.

Thus far I have done the following:

1. Set the computer not to sleep after any period of time.
2. Disallowed the Hard Drives from going idle after a timeout.
3. Edited the registry to disable hibernation/fast boot.
4. Edited the registry to allow further advanced power options to be available related to hibernation and inactivated those.
5. Updated video drivers, which is inexplicably recommended by several people who had this same problem.

None of these has worked. It's beginning to drive me a bit nuts. This is a desktop as well, so there's no lid behavior to modify. It's not an HP; a lot of HP's appear to have issues like mine due to drivers for the CPU/Videocard. It's just a home-built PC using a recent i5.

Anyone have any other ideas about this?

Independence
Jul 11, 2006



Shlomo Palestein posted:

Update to my sleep/hibernation/who-knows problem.

To summarize: if I leave the PC idle for a certain period (looks like it's outside a few hours, maybe 3-4?), it will sleep/hibernate and won't be wakable without restarting.

Thus far I have done the following:

1. Set the computer not to sleep after any period of time.
2. Disallowed the Hard Drives from going idle after a timeout.
3. Edited the registry to disable hibernation/fast boot.
4. Edited the registry to allow further advanced power options to be available related to hibernation and inactivated those.
5. Updated video drivers, which is inexplicably recommended by several people who had this same problem.

None of these has worked. It's beginning to drive me a bit nuts. This is a desktop as well, so there's no lid behavior to modify. It's not an HP; a lot of HP's appear to have issues like mine due to drivers for the CPU/Videocard. It's just a home-built PC using a recent i5.

Anyone have any other ideas about this?

At this point, I would pull the hard drive and install Windows 10 on a new hard drive and see if it happens with a clean install.

mAlfunkti0n
May 19, 2004


Fallen Rib

Perhaps someone can answer this, it was brought up earlier ..

I understand what happens, but WHY does Microsoft litter every single disk I have connected at the time of a Windows installation with what is seemingly critical files for the bootloader to function? I have two disks that just contained data but when you remove one of those the system refuses to boot.

I don't even begin to see a good reason to do this. Is it because of secure boot and all that other crap?

wormil
Sep 12, 2002

Hulk will smoke you!

Cojawfee posted:

Maybe you have some sort of hardware problem. I've never hard of that issue before and I'm constantly on youtube with chrome.

Started day 1 after W10 install and it only happens (so far) in Chrome. It could be a driver issue but there is nothing I can do about that. Sometimes it starts as the sound stuttering or getting stuck, sometimes the video gets stuck, and sometimes everything just locks up for anywhere from 5 seconds to forever.

edit; am going to disable ublock origin and see if that makes a difference.

Dogen posted:

The most recent build of W10 if you're on the insider fast ring totally fucks up the x64 branch, if you install x86 it works. Don't really see that as Chrome's fault.

I'm not in the Windows Insider program.

wormil fucked around with this message at 19:41 on Aug 25, 2015

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xylo
Feb 21, 2007


Dogen posted:

The most recent build of W10 if you're on the insider fast ring totally fucks up the x64 branch, if you install x86 it works. Don't really see that as Chrome's fault.
Sometimes it's not as black and white as that. In this instance you can read this for details. Basically Chrome was doing stuff to prevent people from hooking into Chrome's processes which ended up not working after some things they assume to be true changed.

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