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Dylan16807
May 12, 2010


Storm- posted:

Also just wanted to report that the OS is asking me to reactivate itself and promptly informs me that my free upgrade cd-key is blocked. Either reinstall first using Windows 8 or just buy a copy of Windows 10. Buying it seems like a simpler solution because I'm bound to reinstall down the road and it will just go faster.

You only have to do the upgrade once, so both options should be equally fast in the future.

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The MUMPSorceress
Jan 6, 2012


^SHTPSTS



Gary’s Answer

How do I get rid of the nag to update to Windows 10? I reverted back to 8.1 and that apparently doesn't tip them of at all that they should shut up about upgrading. The instructions I googled up didn't work. I'd like to kill it on my Windows 7 computer too.

Skarsnik
Oct 21, 2008

I...AM...RUUUDE!






BattleCattle posted:

Snapping with the windows key hotkeys also works. That might narrow it down.

I've just tried and it looks like the problem is fixed anyway, i cant get it to go non responsive at all

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

LeftistMuslimObama posted:

How do I get rid of the nag to update to Windows 10? I reverted back to 8.1 and that apparently doesn't tip them of at all that they should shut up about upgrading. The instructions I googled up didn't work. I'd like to kill it on my Windows 7 computer too.

Did you uninstall the specific windows updates?

pwnyXpress
Mar 28, 2007


pwnyXpress posted:

Is there a way to help windows 10 remember my dual monitor stuff? It seems to do well with separate resolutions, and changing when I plug in or whatever to match things up, but I'd like to also set separate desktop wallpapers for my dual setups and have it not mess up my single desktop when I'm unplugged.

Any suggestions?

The MUMPSorceress
Jan 6, 2012


^SHTPSTS



Gary’s Answer

Cojawfee posted:

Did you uninstall the specific windows updates?

Yeah.

Jan
Feb 26, 2008

The disruptive powers of excessive national fecundity may have played a greater part in bursting the bonds of convention than either the power of ideas or the errors of autocracy.


...and did you hide the update afterwards?

Lowtechs
Jan 12, 2001


Grimey Drawer

BTW if you say gently caress You to Cortana she admonishes you for not ever talking to you that way.

Neo_Crimson
Aug 15, 2011

"Is that your final dandy?"

Question-that-might-have-been-asked-a-billion-times:

I plan on building a new PC, can I use the upgrade lined up for my current PC to get a Windows 10 ISO on a usb drive that I can use to do a fresh install of Win10 on that new PC? Or do I have to buy a separate copy of windows?

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

Build a new PC, install windows 7/8.1, upgrade that to 10 and then you can do a clean 10 install. Before July 29 2016 of course.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me





You don't need the upgrade offer to make an iso - just download the tool to make a usb then when you get the PC, install your current Windows on there, authenticate it as usual, then plug in your usb and do an upgrade.

Ghostlight fucked around with this message at 05:45 on Sep 9, 2015

Neo_Crimson
Aug 15, 2011

"Is that your final dandy?"

Ghostlight posted:

You don't need the upgrade offer to make an iso - just [url="https://"http://www.microsoft.com/en-au/software-download/windows10"]download the tool[/url] to make a usb then when you get the PC, install your current Windows on there, authenticate it as usual, then plug in your usb and do an upgrade.

The problem here is that I'm going from a laptop that had Windows 7 built in to a desktop PC that might not be able to fit an optical drive. Getting an OS period on there might be a bit of a hassle.

Skarsnik
Oct 21, 2008

I...AM...RUUUDE!






You don't need an optical drive to install windows

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me





To my knowledge, since you're building a new machine, your only path to an activated Windows 10 is through the upgrade. The upgrade has to be done on the machine in question, so you have to install a previous Windows on it.
If you can't fit an optical drive in there then you'll have to source/make an iso to put on usb for that as well.

You can't upgrade your current machine then 'move' the license to a new machine because there's nothing to move except a database entry on Microsoft's servers.

AbstractNapper
Jun 5, 2011

I can help

Is there a reason that every once in a while (seemingly non-deterministically) the Search functionality from the start menu gets broken and I get absolutely no results for valid application names; I just get some dots animating from left to right. This is with No cortana and no web search.
And it non-deterministically gets fixed after a logout/login or a restart. I am guessing that there is something wrong with the indexing service....

Lum
Aug 13, 2003



AbstractNapper posted:

Is there a reason that every once in a while (seemingly non-deterministically) the Search functionality from the start menu gets broken and I get absolutely no results for valid application names; I just get some dots animating from left to right. This is with No cortana and no web search.
And it non-deterministically gets fixed after a logout/login or a restart. I am guessing that there is something wrong with the indexing service....

I never fixed this, and ended up installing bloody StartIsBack to sort it. Already had a licence for it from the Win8 days.

Cheesus
Oct 17, 2002

Let us retract the foreskin of ignorance and apply the wirebrush of enlightenment.

Yam Slacker

Related to Search, I have a problem that I've submitted to feedback: Randomly the keyboard won't work.

It's pretty irritating to Win-Key + "type search" + Enter and have the last step not work. The only way to launch is to click the result with your mouse.

It does seem to correct itself after a reboot which of course is stupid.

anne frank fanfic
Oct 31, 2005

by SA Support Robot


Its a pain when you click all apps that you cant just type a letter and have it go to that letter instead of scrolling through the entire alphabet.

redeyes
Sep 14, 2002
I LOVE THE WHITE STRIPES!

The start menu is buggy as hell. I guess really not much Microsoft did for Windows 10 is stable or even really usable. Random metro apps have stopped working on mine. The Start key on the keyboard doesn't bring up the menu. The mail app takes nearly an hour to download new messages from google. No real working drag and drop to the taskbar and/or start menu. Incredibly unimpressive.

xamphear
Apr 9, 2002

SILK FOR CALDÉ!

The changes they made to the Start Menu between 8 and 10 are all good, and it's honestly close enough to the Start Menu I need that I'd probably be happy using it... If it worked reliably. I've gone back to using a Start Menu replacement (Start10) just like I did in 8, for most of the reasons you guys have already said. It's slow, sometimes doesn't come up, sometimes won't complete a search, sometimes doesn't find what I need it to, etc...

Dead Goon
Dec 13, 2002


I unpinned all of the tiles and shrunk my start menu to the smallest it can be - I am very happy with my Start Menu

Irritated Goat
Mar 12, 2005

This post is pathetic.


Dead Goon posted:

I unpinned all of the tiles and shrunk my start menu to the smallest it can be - I am very happy with my Start Menu

Thank you. I didn't know I could do that and now my start menu feels so much better.

Zenostein
Aug 15, 2008

Alhamdulillah-chan

anne frank fanfic posted:

Its a pain when you click all apps that you cant just type a letter and have it go to that letter instead of scrolling through the entire alphabet.

At least you can click one of the letter headings, and then click the letter you want from there. But you can't type a letter once you pull up the alphabet picker that way, so too bad if you want to use a keyboard.

It was an insider mission thing last week, but I'm not using preview builds, so I think it's just a hidden feature.

wormil
Sep 12, 2002

Hulk will smoke you!

I'm afraid of jinxing it but installing a video card seems to have fixed my video watching problem. I had six videos going in two browsers with no sound stuttering and no freezing.

Ekster
Jul 18, 2013



There's no (free) adblock equivalent for edge availabe yet, right?

I checked the previous couple of pages but couldn't find anything on it.

hooah
Feb 6, 2006
WTF?

Edge doesn't have any extensions yet.

nimper
Jun 19, 2003

livin' in a hopium den

Ekster posted:

There's no (free) adblock equivalent for edge availabe yet, right?

I checked the previous couple of pages but couldn't find anything on it.

Edge doesn't support extensions yet, so no.

Segmentation Fault
Jun 7, 2012


Edge gets extensions in November. As far as I'm aware the Edge API is going to be as close as possible to Chrome's API so when it's released porting stuff should be really easy.

Lum
Aug 13, 2003



Ekster posted:

There's no (free) adblock equivalent for edge availabe yet, right?

I checked the previous couple of pages but couldn't find anything on it.

There's a freeware utility called HostsMan which will fill your hosts file with entries to resolve lovely domains to 127.0.0.1, similar to what a lot of the Android ad blockers do. I guess that is better than nothing if you want to use Edge.

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004





While you're installing HostsMan, install Peerblock too. If you just set it with all the defaults it's set it and forget it.

http://www.peerblock.com/releases/p...lock-1.2.0-r693

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PeerBlock

wookieepelt
Jul 23, 2009


Lum posted:

There's a freeware utility called HostsMan which will fill your hosts file with entries to resolve lovely domains to 127.0.0.1, similar to what a lot of the Android ad blockers do. I guess that is better than nothing if you want to use Edge.

Is there a reason to use ad blockers from a security standpoint? I know that a lot of sites only function because of ad revenue, and I haven't used an ad blocker because of that. I'm not trying to be contrary or anything, just curious as to why ad blockers seem to be such a big deal that people don't use Edge because of the lack of ad blocking.

dont be mean to me
May 2, 2007

I'm interplanetary, bitch
Let's go to Mars




wookieepelt posted:

Is there a reason to use ad blockers from a security standpoint? I know that a lot of sites only function because of ad revenue, and I haven't used an ad blocker because of that. I'm not trying to be contrary or anything, just curious as to why ad blockers seem to be such a big deal that people don't use Edge because of the lack of ad blocking.

Flash and JavaScript ads are pretty much the way people get infected with bitcoin miners or CryptoLocker, or get social-engineered by Robert Hackerman at the Office of Password Management or by people saying iPhone Antivirus is out of date or oh no someone's planted Bad poo poo on your computer hit this to get rid of it or whatever. No one seems interested in cleaning up the ads, not even actual you'd-think-they-do-due-diligence ad services like from Google or Microsoft.

You can drop Flash without much effect these days, aside from unfortunate things like your local jury duty's online orientation only using flash videos, LA COUNTY COURT (unless you play Facebook games or something, in which case you idiot) but thanks to HTML5 and web apps becoming a thing dropping JavaScript pretty much costs you the Web so you need something else to intercept the ads.

Hence ad-block.

Skarsnik
Oct 21, 2008

I...AM...RUUUDE!






wookieepelt posted:

Is there a reason to use ad blockers from a security standpoint? I know that a lot of sites only function because of ad revenue, and I haven't used an ad blocker because of that. I'm not trying to be contrary or anything, just curious as to why ad blockers seem to be such a big deal that people don't use Edge because of the lack of ad blocking.

Security aside most websites are an assault on the eyes with ads

The few times I have to go without I'm amazed anyone can deal with all that poo poo. It makes the internet an unpleasant experience

Lum
Aug 13, 2003



wookieepelt posted:

Is there a reason to use ad blockers from a security standpoint? I know that a lot of sites only function because of ad revenue, and I haven't used an ad blocker because of that. I'm not trying to be contrary or anything, just curious as to why ad blockers seem to be such a big deal that people don't use Edge because of the lack of ad blocking.

The post above pretty much answered the security side. There's also things like metered connections and ads choking up low powered mobile devices which is definitely a thing for some Win10 devices.

I recently started using the Clean Links addin for firefox. For the tinfoil hat crew it is anti-tracking, but mainly the web feels so much smoother when your google results go directly to the page and not via an intermediate page that then refreshes to the one you wanted.

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004





A lot of sites and detect if you're using adblock these days and offer you the option to pay a one time fee to offset your usage costs (like, $5 here on SA or OKCupid) or a monthly fee (fark.com is $5 a month)

Given the one time option, if I visit the site more than twice a month I usually pay it. I don't pay/sign up for the perpetual monthly payment because I try and avoid those kinds of subscription costs.

wookieepelt
Jul 23, 2009


Hadlock posted:

A lot of sites and detect if you're using adblock these days and offer you the option to pay a one time fee to offset your usage costs (like, $5 here on SA or OKCupid) or a monthly fee (fark.com is $5 a month)

Given the one time option, if I visit the site more than twice a month I usually pay it. I don't pay/sign up for the perpetual monthly payment because I try and avoid those kinds of subscription costs.

This is a great option. I'd pay a lot of sites a one time fee for ad free browsing. I'm a believer that content creators should be paid, and ads were the way they go about it. I'm kinda sold on an ad blocker though since the creators don't choose what ads are on their site.

I found a "Do not track" option in Edge. Is that similar to a blocker?

Double Punctuation
Dec 30, 2009

Ships were made for sinking;
Whiskey made for drinking;
If we were made of cellophane
We'd all get stinking drunk much faster!


wookieepelt posted:

This is a great option. I'd pay a lot of sites a one time fee for ad free browsing. I'm a believer that content creators should be paid, and ads were the way they go about it. I'm kinda sold on an ad blocker though since the creators don't choose what ads are on their site.

I found a "Do not track" option in Edge. Is that similar to a blocker?

Do Not Track is a joke. It puts a header in your requests that says, "Please could you respect my privacy and stop giving me ads for Bad Dragon because I read this thread and your ad server saw the text Bad Dragon there?" Of course, advertisers are completely free to ignore it and try to sell you 24-inch rubber dongs anyway.

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004





Yeah actually my reason to pay for the no ads option on SA was that I used to work the very slow 12 hour night shift and they didn't really care what I browsed (including the forums) but I was concerned that some of the ads that SA was serving at the time could get flagged as porn and it's kind of hard to get promoted when IT security keeps emailing your boss about false positives for their porno scanner. I guess I could have just stopped browsing SA at work but That $5 has gone a long ways in 4 years, no regrets.

Butt Reactor
Oct 6, 2005

Even in zero gravity, you're an asshole.


Um why is facebook being unreadable? It's been like this since I installed it (and reinstalled a few times) on a new laptop I bought a couple weeks ago. On a related note, why is some stuff blurry? For example some text in Edge shows up slightly fuzzy and some pop-up windows from various apps exhibit the same thing. Can't get a screenshot of the text issues, but here's facebook: (red lines to protect the innocent)


For reference, screen is set to 1920*1080 on a 15.6" laptop

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Storm-
Jan 7, 2007

You win some, you lose some... then you lose some more.



Dylan16807 posted:

You only have to do the upgrade once, so both options should be equally fast in the future.

True, I don't plan on changing hardware every time I reinstall.

Skarsnik posted:

You don't need an optical drive to install windows

Also true. But it is a good idea to go online first and download your motherboard drivers on the USB you use to install Windows or a secondary/backup drive if you're upgrading to a newer motherboard. I learned that the hard way yesterday when I upgraded to a shiny new ASUS Maximus VIII Gene and my ethernet driver was missing. Kinda impossible to go online at that point and without an optical drive the DVD was useless. They should give you tiny flash drives instead.

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