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BattleCattle
May 11, 2014



JohnnyCanuck posted:

What are you guys using to easily switch audio playback devices on 10?

Right click volume icon in taskbar, press the P key, press down either once or twice, tab twice, enter.

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Thermopyle
Jul 1, 2003

...the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. —Bertrand Russell



JohnnyCanuck posted:

What are you guys using to easily switch audio playback devices on 10?

I wrote this years ago and it still works on Windows 10. Just edit the .ini file to do what you want. Ask me if you need help.

I'd write it completely differently nowadays, but it still works for me so I don't care.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg


So I've read the last few pages of this thread based on a couple replies in the laptop thread, so I thought I'd ask a few questions about Win 10. Please forgive me if I am re-hashing things which have been previously discussed, but I just want to make sure I have my thick head wrapped around some pros/cons of Win 10.

I am looking at buying a powerful laptop for gaming. It'll be used for when I am out of town an staying in hotels as It'll keep me out of trouble. I have it pretty much narrowed down to 1 of 2 units, but the one I am leaning towards has Win 10 Home built in from the factory. The other has 8.1. I am coming from a Win 7 Pro background.

1: With win 10 Home, I understand that it pushes updates to you. Is there a way to turn this off without some 3rd party utility or is that the only way? Some hotels I stay at have 500MB data caps and after that you get charged. 500MB is plenty for what I'd need, but obviously if it's bringing in some big update in the background that won't help matters. Is this something MS is changing in the upcoming SP?

2: Update related as well, how does it work with optional updates like drivers? IE: If my laptop has an Nvidia driver that I am happy with, will it force in some Windows approved driver even if I don't want it?

3: If someone isn't in the fast track release stream, is there any real downsides to having Win 10 at this point in time? As I mentioned I come from a Win 7 Pro background and have not really played with 8.1 to any extent other than setting up a mom-PC for Christmas, and I didn't really care for it much... but I could probably live with it.

I do have an old P.O.S. AMD N660 laptop which I did go through the Win 10 upgrade process and I kind of like it so far, but that whole push update thing is really the biggest problem I have with it but I haven't really dug that much into it yet.

EasyEW
Mar 8, 2006

I've got my father's great big six-shooter with me 'n' if anybody in this woods wants to start somethin' just let 'em--but they DASSN'T.


For WiFi connections, Win10 lets you set a connection as metered through Network & Internet > WiFi > Advanced Options. My understanding is that wireless connection flagged as metered only downloads priority updates, but since they most definitely don't give you the toggle switch option with Ethernet (at least that I can find), I have to take Microsoft's word for it.

dissss
Nov 10, 2007

I'm a terrible forums poster with terrible opinions.

Here's a cat fucking a squid.

I'd say the same as for any other Windows version - wait for the service pack (no it won't be called that but there will be one)

EconOutlines
Jul 3, 2004



Biggest complaint so far? Auto-updates and restarting. Heck, I don't mind if it auto-downloads them, just don't restart my PC. I'll know this via mobile if I can't access DropBox, Plex or torrents are seen as a Hit n Run.

Good? I'm not sure if this is a Win10 thing, but having 3 monitors, I could only see video using Media Player Classic on my main monitor. Here, I can move it to another monitor and it'll play fine.

Anyone have any convincing arguments to keep the default start menu or use Microsoft Apps? I like being able to split my screens up multiple ways, so their app store doesn't seem very friendly to that, as didn't 8/8.1. Otherwise, my Start 10 trial is working quite fine for now.

EconOutlines fucked around with this message at 07:55 on Sep 20, 2015

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx


dissss posted:

I'd say the same as for any other Windows version - wait for the service pack (no it won't be called that but there will be one)

I believe the new term is Service Release.

xamphear
Apr 9, 2002

SILK FOR CALDÉ!

EconOutlines posted:

Biggest complaint so far? Auto-updates and restarting. Heck, I don't mind if it auto-downloads them, just don't restart my PC. I'll know this via mobile if I can't access DropBox, Plex or torrents are seen as a Hit n Run.
I've disabled the Windows Update service and plan on doing them every couple months like I used to. I'm also hoping a 3rd party makes a show/hide update tool that lets you hide them BEFORE Windows Update attempts to force them down.

EconOutlines posted:

I'm not sure if this is a Win10 thing, but having 3 monitors, I could only see video using Media Player Classic on my main monitor. Here, I can move it to another monitor and it'll play fine.
Go into the MPC settings and under "Video" change the renderer. Try EVR, VMR9, System Default. One of them should fix the issue.

RightClickSaveAs
Mar 1, 2001

Tiny animals under glass... Smaller than sand...




Riso posted:

I believe the new term is Service Release.
Is Threshold 2 still a thing? Last I heard they were planning on October for that, and it was going to be mostly fixes and optimizations.

Fake edit: actually the name may have changed already and the date is more like November http://m.windowscentral.com/first-m...elayed-november

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006


RightClickSaveAs posted:

Is Threshold 2 still a thing? Last I heard they were planning on October for that, and it was going to be mostly fixes and optimizations.

Fake edit: actually the name may have changed already and the date is more like November http://m.windowscentral.com/first-m...elayed-november

So about the time this whole shitpile should have actually been released. Nice.

pwnyXpress
Mar 28, 2007


So using Chrome on Windows 10 I seem to get an issue where after a while the Shockwave Flash plugin stops responding and will refuse to work until I reboot the entire computer, not just the browser or plugin. Any thoughts?

Flagrama
Jun 19, 2010



Lipstick Apathy

RightClickSaveAs posted:

Is Threshold 2 still a thing? Last I heard they were planning on October for that, and it was going to be mostly fixes and optimizations.

Fake edit: actually the name may have changed already and the date is more like November http://m.windowscentral.com/first-m...elayed-november

Since the new Fast track release is called th2 when it's being downloaded in Update, I'd say yes it is still a thing.

Junkenstein
Oct 22, 2003



I've got one of my photos that I want to set as my desktop background. I've converted it to srgb in Photoshop and saved it as a jpeg, but when set as the wallpaper, it appears washed out as if it was a non-srgb color space being shown in a non color managed app. Am I missing something here? I haven't noticed it happening on any photos saved and displayed this way on previous Windows versions. The file details state 'Color Representation - sRGB'.

Phoenixan
Jan 16, 2010

Just Keep Cool-idge


Windows will sometimes convert a higher quality jpeg into a lower quality one when you set it as the desktop background. One thing to try is to save a copy of the image that exactly fits your desktop dimensions, and set that as the wallpaper.

What I more often see is images I saved at 98% appearing with more artifacts when set as the background.

Junkenstein
Oct 22, 2003



Yeah, I always re-size to 1920 x 1080 for wallpapers.

After more experimenting, the same image saved as a png looks fine when set as the background from either a right-click or through the Photos app, but wrong when set through Windows Photo Viewer.

As stupid as that is, I thought I'd at least found the problem, but the jpg still looks wrong no matter how it's set. gently caress knows

dont be mean to me
May 2, 2007

I'm interplanetary, bitch
Let's go to Mars




pwnyXpress posted:

So using Chrome on Windows 10 I seem to get an issue where after a while the Shockwave Flash plugin stops responding and will refuse to work until I reboot the entire computer, not just the browser or plugin. Any thoughts?

That's a feature.

In "even terrible things should work as advertised" terms, Flash for Chrome doesn't work like Flash for other browsers does, because Chromium made their own plugin interface (Pepper) to replace NPAPI and then Google and Adobe worked out ways to break out of the API just for Flash, which is all kind of adorable as no one else makes Pepper plugins anyway.

In practical terms, Flash for Chrome probably just didn't close out right when Chrome did. I don't think it actually gets a process labeled Flash in any way, so actually exit Chrome (hamburger > Exit or Ctrl+Shift+Q), wait a few seconds, and then kill any remaining Chrome tasks maybe. Also are you sure you actually closed Chrome the last few times this has happened?, because if you have background apps for it it keeps running even with no windows open.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007



Hey hey Nevermind, good OP, OP.

Khanstant fucked around with this message at 02:01 on Sep 22, 2015

pwnyXpress
Mar 28, 2007


Sir Unimaginative posted:

That's a feature.

In "even terrible things should work as advertised" terms, Flash for Chrome doesn't work like Flash for other browsers does, because Chromium made their own plugin interface (Pepper) to replace NPAPI and then Google and Adobe worked out ways to break out of the API just for Flash, which is all kind of adorable as no one else makes Pepper plugins anyway.

In practical terms, Flash for Chrome probably just didn't close out right when Chrome did. I don't think it actually gets a process labeled Flash in any way, so actually exit Chrome (hamburger > Exit or Ctrl+Shift+Q), wait a few seconds, and then kill any remaining Chrome tasks maybe. Also are you sure you actually closed Chrome the last few times this has happened?, because if you have background apps for it it keeps running even with no windows open.

Yup, totally closed. I killed every process named chrome as well. Start it back up and still have the issue until I reboot entirely. I'm aware of the "2 versions of flash problem" in the extensions and that doesn't seem to be it either.

Blue On Blue
Nov 14, 2012



I've never had this problem before in Windows 7 or 8, seems to be 10 specific.

Auto 'lowering' my mic volume, specifically so that it's pretty much muted.

I can usually get around it by going into the mic settings in windows, cranking it back up to 90 and it will stay there

As soon as I reboot, it auto lowers it back to 50 or something stupid

I just tried to play the new Rainbow Six Siege alpha and same thing, it was stuck at 50 (which ends up sounding like I'm screaming from the next room over apparently)


I figure something is hosed up anyways, whenever I click on the recording options I get the 'this device audio enhancements are jacked up' etc, it does that for every sound device on my system after each reboot

Call Me Charlie
Dec 3, 2005

by Smythe


Is there a decent replacement for the default mail app? I'd accept something that actually pops up toast when email arrives and allows me to choose what email address I send something from.

Blue On Blue
Nov 14, 2012



Call Me Charlie posted:

Is there a decent replacement for the default mail app? I'd accept something that actually pops up toast when email arrives and allows me to choose what email address I send something from.

I use eM client now, since the default windows mail refused to work with Gmail at the time of release (probably been fixed since)

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx


There's always thunderbird but the notifier never worked right for me.

wookieepelt
Jul 23, 2009


Is there a way to get Metro IE in Windows 10? Every time I read Cracked on Edge it jumps around like Michael J. Fox is touching my screen. Desktop IE is not good for touch, but it's all I've got.

hooah
Feb 6, 2006
WTF?

Why aren't you using a better browser?

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013

Oh? You're
approaching me?


Does it makes a difference if you switch between tablet or desktop mode? That's made a difference on a couple of sites for me.

wookieepelt
Jul 23, 2009


hooah posted:

Why aren't you using a better browser?

Firefox doesn't let me log in to my enterprise email and chrome only works on half the sites I need. Edge was the browser that worked best for a 40 hour work course. Which is funny because the help desk told me to run IE 7 or 8 because that's the "gold standard"

Segmentation Fault
Jun 7, 2012


IE 7 is the gold standard in bad browsers

wookieepelt
Jul 23, 2009


Segmentation Fault posted:

IE 7 is the gold standard in bad browsers

I agree. We had a good laugh. I was an rear end in a top hat to that poor help desk fellow. But that's what I'm dealing with. I guess I will have to use more than one browser.

AbstractNapper
Jun 5, 2011

I can help

I am not exactly sure why, but Edge performs way better for hitbox.tv videos in fullscreen mode than any of Opera, Chrome, or Firefox; only Edge shows the videos for me at the nominal framerate- the others are too frame-y and a chore to watch for more than a few seconds. This is on a Dell laptop with i5 2520M @2.5Ghz and an Intel HD 3000 series GPU.

dont be mean to me
May 2, 2007

I'm interplanetary, bitch
Let's go to Mars




Chrome still disables GPU rasterization categorically, not because Google thinks there's anything wrong with it anymore, but because . You can switch it on manually in chrome://flags.

You can also switch it back off that way if if it turns out anything is wrong with it.

Fun Times!
Dec 26, 2010


I've been out of the loop: Is it a good time to upgrade from 8.1 to 10 yet, or is it still buggy? My PC life is mostly games, youtube, porn, forums, and school.

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

Fun Times! posted:

I've been out of the loop: Is it a good time to upgrade from 8.1 to 10 yet, or is it still buggy? My PC life is mostly games, youtube, porn, forums, and school.

It probably wouldn't hurt to wait until November, which is when a big patch/the actual planned release was supposed to happen.

robodex
Jun 6, 2007

They're what's for dinner


Windows 10 is fine

LampkinsMateSteve
Jan 1, 2005

I've really fucked it. Have I fucked it?

I held off a while with my 7 machine, but my work machine was recently updated to 8.1. I quite liked some of the changes, so went for the upgrade to 10 at home. It was painless.

A lot more time was spent tidying up my OS drive before making a backup image of it using the built-in Windows tools.

RightClickSaveAs
Mar 1, 2001

Tiny animals under glass... Smaller than sand...




Fun Times! posted:

I've been out of the loop: Is it a good time to upgrade from 8.1 to 10 yet, or is it still buggy? My PC life is mostly games, youtube, porn, forums, and school.
You can also try it out for a couple weeks and then roll back if you don't like it, it gives you the option to do that for 30 days. That process was fairly painless for me on 7, and only took a couple minutes and a reboot, the only thing that happened was my libraries relating to folders on my second drive broke, which was not a big deal. e: Oh and all the Task Scheduler tasks broke for some reason, I just wiped them all out because I didn't feel like trying to look into the problem.

RightClickSaveAs fucked around with this message at 13:50 on Sep 25, 2015

biznatchio
Mar 31, 2001



Buglord

robodex posted:

Windows 10 is fine

Except for the start menu and search randomly breaking.

I discovered today that there's even a special dialog that pops up when they break. It actually says "The start menu and Cortana have stopped working. Sign out and sign back in and we'll try to fix it." and there's a button that logs you out.

Yes, seriously.

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004



biznatchio posted:

Except for the start menu and search randomly breaking.

I discovered today that there's even a special dialog that pops up when they break. It actually says "The start menu and Cortana have stopped working. Sign out and sign back in and we'll try to fix it." and there's a button that logs you out.

Yes, seriously.

Lmao. Microsoft

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg


Yeah, it's been working "OK" for my old mom-style Emachine laptop, but I think I'll take the advice of most here and stick with 8.1 until at least the major update comes down the pipe.

your friend wicka
Jun 28, 2007

Huski Chocolate is a lifestyle, not only a product. It's about adventure & expedition. Living life to the fullest. It's a perfect recovery drink after training, because of the healthy carbohydrate and protein content, easy to digest and perfect for replenishing tired muscles.



Has anyone else found it literally impossible to disable Insider builds? You click the button that says "Stop Insider Builds," it pops up a window that says "We need you to do a few things to stop receiving builds," then links you to a support article about clicking the same drat button you just clicked. Who the gently caress made this OS?

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taqueso
Mar 8, 2004









be nice wicka posted:

Who the gently caress made this OS?
A committee of committees, 1000 focus groups, and a zillion contractors that don't give a gently caress.

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