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Truga
May 4, 2014




Lipstick Apathy

astral posted:

Did you already try the Update Assistant?

When you run the MCT, are you building the media?

yeah i tried literally everything under the sun and then poo poo from the 10th page of google and nothing worked. when I run MCT I just hit update, it throws the exact same error. creating the media and trying to update from that too. only thing left to try now is unplug all the disks except windows ssd and try again.

i'm not particularly worried either way tho since the only thing that happens on this box is playing games, and i'll be reinstalling windows when i upgrade my pc later this year anyway..

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xylo
Feb 21, 2007


Truga posted:

yeah i tried literally everything under the sun and then poo poo from the 10th page of google and nothing worked. when I run MCT I just hit update, it throws the exact same error. creating the media and trying to update from that too. only thing left to try now is unplug all the disks except windows ssd and try again.

i'm not particularly worried either way tho since the only thing that happens on this box is playing games, and i'll be reinstalling windows when i upgrade my pc later this year anyway..
Did you already do the SFC cycle just to make sure nothing is hosed (sfc /scannow)?

Can you explain where it exactly it fails? Is it like from the windows update panel, you click download and it does the download and the pre install and fails with the error code there? Or does the reboot start and the install fails at the blue update screen?

If it gets to the install step, do you have the setup logs? (check c:\$windows.bt\sources\panther\setuperr.log [or whatever your os drive letter is])

Are you a windows insider? Could also help to capture advanced diagnostics (feedback hub->advanced diag->default diag/install and update/windows update/windows update (default)->start capture. Then submit a feedback report and link the details here so I can try and ping someone internally for a hint to get you unstuck.

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT



Did you already run through this?
https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb...s-update-errors
It's a pretty comprehensive set of steps, it's probably your best chance of repairing whatever's messed up

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

One Potato to rule them all,
One Potato to find them,
One Potato to bring them all
And in the darkness bind them.





Bread Liar

Lambert posted:

Absolutely. There's even a program to help with that: https://forum.xda-developers.com/wi...ows-10-t3248677

Good lord, why is that not built into Windows already?

Colour-coding your tile groups just makes sense.

wargames
Mar 16, 2008

official yospos cat censor


Megillah Gorilla posted:

Good lord, why is that not built into Windows already?

Colour-coding your tile groups just makes sense.

windows ui hasn't been uniform for 10 years now.

Housh
Jul 9, 2001






What's a good google calendar app for win 10 that has night mode?

edit: nvm. windows calendar app is perfect for me

Housh fucked around with this message at 17:48 on Mar 24, 2019

Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!

I wonder how Chromium Edge will work in regards to DRM video, like Netflix et al. Because Chrome enjoys all that fancy 1080p and 4K content so far.

xylo
Feb 21, 2007


Combat Pretzel posted:

I wonder how Chromium Edge will work in regards to DRM video, like Netflix et al. Because Chrome enjoys all that fancy 1080p and 4K content so far.
Just tried it. Worked fine.

Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!

Beyond 720p? Did Microsoft implement a new rendering backend with appropriate protections that satisfies Netflix? Because they sure don't seem to be content with Widevine on Chrome or Firefox.

xylo
Feb 21, 2007


Combat Pretzel posted:

Beyond 720p? Did Microsoft implement a new rendering backend with appropriate protections that satisfies Netflix? Because they sure don't seem to be content with Widevine on Chrome or Firefox.
Dunno really. Set it to the highest setting in the account profile and it took all my bandwidth (16mb) playing stuff. I don't see how I can say "play only 1080p" from the settings.

Not Wolverine
Jul 1, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 30 days!


If Chromium Edge supports syncing tabs and passwords with my phone and G-mail account I might consider it. Instead, I predict it will probably be tied into having a Microsoft account and that is simply not going to happen, my soul is Google's property damnit!

But I do hope Chromium Edge might just implement some sort of DRM that Chrome and Firefox can use to get higher resolution. I cant see MS wanting another silverlight style plugin, and I hope if they develop the necessary DRM for Chromium it will be back ported. Realistically, what are the odds of MS back porting any improvements to Chromium? Is MS actually trying to be a more open source friendly company these days? Will Chromium Edge effect the Netflix store plugin since I assume that requires either the Edge or IE rendering engine?

Mr Shiny Pants
Nov 12, 2012


I don't really even consider any other browsers, FireFox is good and Vivaldi too. Chrome jumped the shark and anything from MS can gently caress right off.

dissss
Nov 10, 2007

I'm a terrible forums poster with terrible opinions.

Here's a cat fucking a squid.

I know the meme is 'Chrome eats all your RAM and drains your battery' but personally I've always found Firefox far worse in both regards. Battery especially, my SP3 only lasts a couple of hours at the best of times but with Firefox it's noticeably worse.

Mr Shiny Pants
Nov 12, 2012


dissss posted:

I know the meme is 'Chrome eats all your RAM and drains your battery' but personally I've always found Firefox far worse in both regards. Battery especially, my SP3 only lasts a couple of hours at the best of times but with Firefox it's noticeably worse.

To be honest, I don't really care about RAM, I have 32 GB in my machine and it never gets annoying. The one thing that does get annoying is Google making Chrome subservient to their ad business with the proposed changes to the webrequest API and the auto-login stuff. No thanks.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me





there's also how extensions aren't allowed on the webstore if they would allow a user to download video from youtube. not as in a way to protect the revenue of streaming sites, because they'll download from everywhere else, just "if it does our one you're not allowed in our store"

isndl
May 2, 2012
I WON A CONTEST IN TG AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS CUSTOM TITLE

dissss posted:

I know the meme is 'Chrome eats all your RAM and drains your battery' but personally I've always found Firefox far worse in both regards. Battery especially, my SP3 only lasts a couple of hours at the best of times but with Firefox it's noticeably worse.

Don't know when the last time you used Firefox was, but it's made significant strides in terms of performance over the last couple of years. Of course, some of this was thanks to changes that broke compatibility with a lot of old add-ons, but old add-ons usually were the reason for performance tanking anyways.

Javid
Oct 21, 2004

My sole partiality is to that delectable spiced meat. Any additional confederation of vegetables shall not compromise the pie as I see it.

Jdownloader is great for ripping video or audio from YouTube, anyway. No need to use an extension.

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012





Javid posted:

Jdownloader is great for ripping video or audio from YouTube, anyway. No need to use an extension.

I don't disagree, but that's not really the point

Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!

xylo posted:

Dunno really. Set it to the highest setting in the account profile and it took all my bandwidth (16mb) playing stuff. I don't see how I can say "play only 1080p" from the settings.
CTRL-ALT-SHIFT-D shows an overlay with debug info. There's a Playing Bitrate line that also shows current streaming resolution. Max bandwidth might just have been prebuffering.

FRINGE
May 23, 2003
title stolen for lf posting


Crotch Fruit posted:

If Chromium Edge supports syncing tabs and passwords with my phone and G-mail account I might consider it. Instead, I predict it will probably be tied into having a Microsoft account and that is simply not going to happen, my soul is Google's property damnit!
I trust MS more than Google. Thats faint praise but still true.



dissss posted:

I know the meme is 'Chrome eats all your RAM and drains your battery' but
Still true. People at work keep asking for more ram and I tell them "close Chrome and facebook" and suddenly voila! No more ram problems.

Lambert
Apr 14, 2018

by Fluffdaddy


Fallen Rib

I'll switch if Chredge has the tab mute feature that was removed from Chrome a few versions ago (and the flag to re-enable it is now gone in the latest Beta version as well). I hate hunting for mute buttons.

SwissArmyDruid
Feb 14, 2014



Latest build of Chromium (https://chromium.woolyss.com/ for precompiled binaries) still has the ability to mute tabs, so maybe that's up your alley?

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004



Lambert posted:

I'll switch if Chredge has the tab mute feature that was removed from Chrome a few versions ago (and the flag to re-enable it is now gone in the latest Beta version as well). I hate hunting for mute buttons.

It's not gone. Unless they removed it from the beta channel or something? On Chrome 73.0.3683.86

Lambert
Apr 14, 2018

by Fluffdaddy


Fallen Rib

SwissArmyDruid posted:

Latest build of Chromium (https://chromium.woolyss.com/ for precompiled binaries) still has the ability to mute tabs, so maybe that's up your alley?

Last Chance posted:

It's not gone. Unless they removed it from the beta channel or something? On Chrome 73.0.3683.86

It's gone on Chrome 74 (current Beta).

repiv
Aug 13, 2009



Tab mute is still there on Canary v75 for me. Clicking on the speaker icon doesn't do anything (didn't that used to toggle mute?) but right clicking on the tab still has "Mute site" in the menu.

Lambert
Apr 14, 2018

by Fluffdaddy


Fallen Rib

repiv posted:

Tab mute is still there on Canary v75 for me. Clicking on the speaker icon doesn't do anything (didn't that used to toggle mute?) but right clicking on the tab still has "Mute site" in the menu.

That's site mute, not tab mute. Site mute mutes all tabs with that site open (all YouTube videos, for example). Tab mute just mutes that individual tab. The latter is useful, the former (site mute) is pretty much useless to me. No other browser works like this, really don't know wth the Chrome developers are thinking.

repiv
Aug 13, 2009



Ah, I see. That's dumb then.

BangersInMyKnickers
Nov 3, 2004

I have a thing for courageous dongles



dissss posted:

I know the meme is 'Chrome eats all your RAM and drains your battery' but personally I've always found Firefox far worse in both regards. Battery especially, my SP3 only lasts a couple of hours at the best of times but with Firefox it's noticeably worse.

Did you get on the Quantum branch because its much better. The auto-upgrade won't put you on that version right now from my experience.

Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!

Lambert posted:

I'll switch if Chredge has the tab mute feature that was removed from Chrome a few versions ago (and the flag to re-enable it is now gone in the latest Beta version as well). I hate hunting for mute buttons.
How's arguing Google that one?

Hipster_Doofus
Dec 20, 2003

Lovin' every minute of it.

BangersInMyKnickers posted:

Did you get on the Quantum branch because its much better. The auto-upgrade won't put you on that version right now from my experience.

Wait what? Maybe that's why there seems to be such a shortage of duly impressed people. Quantum doesn't even feel like the same browser.

GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

Firefox Quantum keeps crashing in chaturbate so therefore it's garbage. Chrome does not.

Lambert
Apr 14, 2018

by Fluffdaddy


Fallen Rib

Combat Pretzel posted:

How's arguing Google that one?

Some dumb bullshit about how they don't want to take ownership of a site's content.

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004



Wow, that's real loving dumb lol

SwissArmyDruid
Feb 14, 2014



Wow, loving bummer.

Geemer
Nov 4, 2010




Don't worry, Mozilla's management will order the dev team to remove tab muting the moment it wakes up from its drug-induced haze long enough to open Chrome.

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week


BangersInMyKnickers posted:

Did you get on the Quantum branch because its much better. The auto-upgrade won't put you on that version right now from my experience.

What? No, the "Quantum" project has been in the mainline firefox releases since late 2018. Anyone using a standard current release of Firefox, both the normal one (v66) and the ESR long-term support version (v60) are getting the Quantum renderer and script engine.

BangersInMyKnickers
Nov 3, 2004

I have a thing for courageous dongles



Klyith posted:

What? No, the "Quantum" project has been in the mainline firefox releases since late 2018. Anyone using a standard current release of Firefox, both the normal one (v66) and the ESR long-term support version (v60) are getting the Quantum renderer and script engine.

Maybe it's because I started using the 64-bit builds a long time ago but it was keeping me on some other long term branch and I only noticed when I hit the mozilla website and they redirected me because of the agent string and told me to upgrade to quantum: the future. Did a manual install and it jumped a whole mess of release versions.

Javid
Oct 21, 2004

My sole partiality is to that delectable spiced meat. Any additional confederation of vegetables shall not compromise the pie as I see it.

kirbysuperstar posted:

I don't disagree, but that's not really the point

No their store policy is flaming dogshit, but the solution to that is to just not deal with the store in this matter at all

astral
Apr 26, 2004



BangersInMyKnickers posted:

Maybe it's because I started using the 64-bit builds a long time ago but it was keeping me on some other long term branch and I only noticed when I hit the mozilla website and they redirected me because of the agent string and told me to upgrade to quantum: the future. Did a manual install and it jumped a whole mess of release versions.

If you manually installed an extended-support release version of Firefox then no it would not update the main version for many, many releases. That one's already on Firefox 60 (which is an earlier Quantum release), and it is upgrading to 68 in July. Meanwhile, the regular version of Firefox is up to 66.

Here's a graphic:

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Raldikuk
Apr 7, 2006

I'm bad with money and I want that meatball!

Lambert posted:

Some dumb bullshit about how they don't want to take ownership of a site's content.

Apparently it is also because they are afraid of user dataloss since it is so close to the tab close button. Additionally they felt it caused the code to be too complex and caused performance issues. The first issue isn't one because the only time i want to mute a tab is when I am not on that tab; and in those cases I only see the mute button, no close button. This additionally is a great thing to have available because it quickly allows you to see which tab is causing the sound issues. The code complexity and performance excuse tho just takes it to a whole new level, because how loving poo poo does your codebase have to be for a mute tab function to be a problem for either.

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