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pofcorn
May 30, 2011


Now that you mention it, yeah, I don't think it's possible to name the computer during a normal setup anymore. I change computer names all the time though, haven't had any issues.

edit: lovely page snipe

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Eletriarnation
Apr 6, 2005

People don't appreciate the substance of things...
objects in space.



Oven Wrangler

I'm pretty sure the name gets autogenerated without any chance for you to intervene and then you can just change it if you care, since the vast majority of non-domain Windows users would never notice anyway.

Raldikuk
Apr 7, 2006

I'm bad with money and I want that meatball!

mystes posted:

Why is it Microsoft's job to tell you when dst starts and ends? If anything that seems like something you would want on your smartphone nowadays.

Back in 2001 I was suckered into picking if I wanted the OS on my phone or my desktop to notify me of such things; alas I picked my desktop OS because at the time my phone was a lovely Windows mobile thing and never considered the future. Now I am stuck without such a notification on my smartphone and I feel my only option is to get rid of my desktop computer... maybe that will delete my previous choice and finally allow for my smartphone to notify me about clock changes.

Dylan16807
May 12, 2010


Klyith posted:

there are irreconcilable differences between the people who appreciate useful little notifications and the people who hate stupid annoying popups. the cycle of software is for these features to be added, exist long enough for the first group to take them for granted, and then be removed when the second group bitches about them.


(also, any notification that isn't useful to you, the person receiving it, is a stupid annoying popup.)
The "DST is coming" thing wasn't a notification or popup. It was a line of text in the clock/calendar dialog.

The notification when it actually changed the clock is more arguable, but it does have a use because Windows does not always get it right.

Dylan16807 fucked around with this message at 22:46 on Apr 1, 2019

MikusR
Jan 5, 2008


Dylan16807 posted:

The "DST is coming" thing wasn't a notification or popup. It was a line of text in the clock/calendar dialog.

It still is. Settings -> Time & Language -> Region -> Additional date, time, & regional settings -> Date And Time.

diremonk
Jun 17, 2008



Is there a trick to getting 5.1 sound working correctly? I did a clean install last night and I no longer get 5.1 sound. The front two speakers work, but the rest kind of chirp instead of playing the test sound. I reinstalled the drivers for the on-board sound last night and had no luck.

It seems to be a semi-common issue, but most of the other people having it are using optical outs and I'm just using the standard 3.5 mm ports.

Any ideas or suggestions on where to start?

Im_Special
Jan 2, 2011

Look At This!!! WOW!
It's F*cking Nothing.


Weird question here, but since April's 2018 Creators update, what does MS default the "fsutil behavior set disablelastaccess" to? I assume it's "3" System Managed, the "Last Access" updates are Disabled.

This in an elevated command prompt, without quotes, will tell you what yours is set at.

"fsutil behavior query disablelastaccess"

dissss
Nov 10, 2007

I'm a terrible forums poster with terrible opinions.

Here's a cat fucking a squid.

Mine is DisableLastAccess = 2 (System Managed, Disabled)

Im_Special
Jan 2, 2011

Look At This!!! WOW!
It's F*cking Nothing.


dissss posted:

Mine is DisableLastAccess = 2 (System Managed, Disabled)

Hmm, confusing, I think "2" means it is actually Enabled despite the Disabled part... nice naming scheme MS.

And as far as I know these are the options.
0 - (User Managed, Disabled) == User Managed, the "Last Access" updates are Enabled.
1 - (User Managed, Enabled) == User Managed, the "Last Access" updates are Disabled.
2 - (System Managed, Disabled) == System Managed, the "Last Access" updates are Enabled.
3 - (System Managed, Enabled) == System Managed, the "Last Access" updates are Disabled.

Also since your is set to on, what size is your SSD/HDD that your main drive (C:)OS sits on, is it 128GB or smaller?

hooah
Feb 6, 2006
WTF?

My laptop has started doing a strange thing to the foreground window when I wake it back up again. Here's an example with Firefox, which I normally keep maximized:



When this happens, the only way I can get the list of suggestions from the Awesome Bar to go away is to close Firefox. On the other hand, with Discord, I don't keep it maximized, but if it was the foreground window when I shut the lid, it becomes maximized when I unlock my laptop. Any ideas what the hell is going on?

Former Human
Oct 15, 2001



I experienced a weird problem where some files that were cut and pasted to a different drive simply disappeared. They were removed/deleted from the original drive but never showed up in the destination folder. I checked the system temp folder and recycle bin but they were just gone. I managed to get them back by right clicking in the original folder and choosing Undo Move but what the hell happened there?

dissss
Nov 10, 2007

I'm a terrible forums poster with terrible opinions.

Here's a cat fucking a squid.

Im_Special posted:

Also since your is set to on, what size is your SSD/HDD that your main drive (C:)OS sits on, is it 128GB or smaller?

128GB drive in that system

Just done a fresh install on an old work cast off laptop with a 250GB disk and its set to 3 on that one

SwissArmyDruid
Feb 14, 2014



Can I just say, I'm actually kind of pleased that Windows notified me that it wanted to send a file off for analysis, and that it asked me politely and told me what the file was before actually doing it?



I mean, before I sent it off, I also inspected it to see what it was, (header image for a webcomic, go figure) but it's nice to see that someone who actually loving uses their operating system decided to code in sensible features.

SwissArmyDruid fucked around with this message at 05:49 on Apr 8, 2019

Xik
Mar 10, 2011



Dinosaur Gum

Microsoft going to extreme lengths to ensure May update avoids mistakes of 1809

quote:

The first big change is a much greater level of user control. Previously, a Windows user might check Windows Update and be offered a monthly quality update, or a twice-annual feature update, with little obvious distinction between them. The former can install in just a few minutes; the latter could take anywhere from 20 to 80 minutes. To make things more predictable, the two kinds of update are going to be clearly distinguished. Moreover, users will be able to explicitly choose to install the monthly updates without getting the feature update. They'll retain this ability for months; for as long as Microsoft is producing security updates for the user's version of Windows, the feature update will be optional. Only when the version of Windows is approaching its end of life will the feature update be made mandatory.

Hipster_Doofus
Dec 20, 2003

Lovin' every minute of it.

Hah, paging fishmech...

Geemer
Nov 4, 2010




Don't worry, I'm sure they'll add a button to install Windows 98.

astral
Apr 26, 2004



Hipster_Doofus posted:

Hah, paging fishmech...

Not gonna lie; I had already forgotten all about that nonsense.

Unfortunately, I think they've already made up their mind and aren't interested in being confused by anything like 'logic' or 'evidence'.

SwissArmyDruid
Feb 14, 2014



Not even when you call them out on it.

I overheard in a goon discord that someone had bought them a new avatar calling them out on it to help pay for Lowtax's busted spine, and not nine hours later, it was changed back.

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames


Salad Prong

Hipster_Doofus posted:

Hah, paging fishmech...

About what?

Kerning Chameleon
Apr 8, 2015
Probation
Can't post for 4126 days!


Why does my six-year-old Lenovo laptop keep randomly Blue Screening? Over the last six months, I've gotten intermittent "IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL" errors, and they always occur either when hibernation fucks up the the middle of the night for whatever reason, or when I'm messing around with windows when pulling up like a Twitch stream or whatever.

Googling the problem just suggests a bunch of random "driver bad, did you gently caress with your hardware or updates?" posts, but I haven't had driver updates or any changes to the hardware in that time. I rarely even plug in my usb wireless mouse into it anymore. CrystalDiskInfo shows the three-year-old HDD is fine, and I did a couple Memtest passes a few months ago that came up clean as well.

Also, I fresh reinstalled Win10 1809 late last October, so it's not like there's any prior version cruft to blame here.

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012





Log readers like WhoCrashed can often point out if it's a specific driver that's causing it

Kerning Chameleon
Apr 8, 2015
Probation
Can't post for 4126 days!


kirbysuperstar posted:

Log readers like WhoCrashed can often point out if it's a specific driver that's causing it

WhoCrashed spat this out for the last one (it was a hibernate failure, fyi):

quote:

On Mon 4/8/2019 3:46:09 PM your computer crashed or a problem was reported
crash dump file: C:\Windows\Minidump\040819-37531-01.dmp
This was probably caused by the following module: ntoskrnl.exe (nt+0x1B35E0)
Bugcheck code: 0xA (0x0, 0xFF, 0xC8, 0xFFFFF8042278FAFE)
Error: IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
file path: C:\Windows\system32\ntoskrnl.exe
product: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
company: Microsoft Corporation
description: NT Kernel & System
Bug check description: This indicates that Microsoft Windows or a kernel-mode driver accessed paged memory at DISPATCH_LEVEL or above. This is a software bug.
This bug check belongs to the crash dump test that you have performed with WhoCrashed or other software. It means that a crash dump file was properly written out.
The crash took place in the Windows kernel. Possibly this problem is caused by another driver that cannot be identified at this time.


On Mon 4/8/2019 3:46:09 PM your computer crashed or a problem was reported
crash dump file: C:\Windows\MEMORY.DMP
This was probably caused by the following module: hal.dll (hal!HalFlushCommonBuffer+0x6CE)
Bugcheck code: 0xA (0x0, 0xFF, 0xC8, 0xFFFFF8042278FAFE)
Error: IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
file path: C:\Windows\system32\hal.dll
product: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
company: Microsoft Corporation
description: Hardware Abstraction Layer DLL
Bug check description: This indicates that Microsoft Windows or a kernel-mode driver accessed paged memory at DISPATCH_LEVEL or above. This is a software bug.
This bug check belongs to the crash dump test that you have performed with WhoCrashed or other software. It means that a crash dump file was properly written out.
The crash took place in the Windows kernel. Possibly this problem is caused by another driver that cannot be identified at this time.

Conclusion

2 crash dumps have been found and analyzed. No offending third party drivers have been found. Connsider using WhoCrashed Professional which offers more detailed analysis using symbol resolution. Also configuring your system to produce a full memory dump may help you.

Is this Greek I'm not parsing, or is it really just saying ?

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012





It's pretty vague, yeah..

If I had to guess, some driver is maybe really misbehaving with Hibernate and crashing the HAL pretty bad?

Kerning Chameleon
Apr 8, 2015
Probation
Can't post for 4126 days!


kirbysuperstar posted:

It's pretty vague, yeah..

If I had to guess, some driver is maybe really misbehaving with Hibernate and crashing the HAL pretty bad?

Yeah, I'm gonna try a restart with Driver Verifier next to see if I can provoke the issue.

xylo
Feb 21, 2007


fishmech posted:

About what?
he's trying to poke you because of the killing off of "seeker" updates -- it won't be immedate anymore but will still before forced when the EOL is hit.


also if anyone cares: https://www.microsoftedgeinsider.com/en-us/download/. It's actually pretty decent. but then again, the original releases of edge weren't either until they somehow messed that up.

WattsvilleBlues
Jan 25, 2005

Every demon wants his pound of flesh

Tried to install the May 2019 update via the Windows Insider program. After download the entire loving ISO and spending 20 minutes trying to install, it said it wasn't able to proceed because something wasn't compatible, a driver, service or app, but it wouldn't say what it was.

Then it says no action required.

Microsoft,
1: Do the compatibility check before downloading GBs of data that are useless to me.
2: Tell me what the eff isn't compatible - you never know, I might not need that particular thing installed!

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013

Oh? You're
approaching me?


xylo posted:

also if anyone cares: https://www.microsoftedgeinsider.com/en-us/download/. It's actually pretty decent. but then again, the original releases of edge weren't either until they somehow messed that up.

That other platform section is weird; MacOS? Windows 7? Is it just a boilerplate section they forgot to remove?

Doctor_Fruitbat fucked around with this message at 08:17 on Apr 9, 2019

Lambert
Apr 14, 2018

by Fluffdaddy


Fallen Rib

Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

That other platform section is weird; MacOS? Windows 7? Is it just a boilerplate section they forgot to remove?

It's coming for all those platforms. But, at this point, the browser still seems very unfinished: Plenty of features aren't working (like spellcheck), plus no tab mute (hope they implement that, would get me to switch from Chrome considering they're removing the feature with the next version).

Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!

The File Explorer works so loving well in 1903. Jesus Christ.

Also, anyone knows some small standalone Direct3D game/app to test that vGPU in Sandbox?

--edit: That's certainly weird. The Sandbox desktop composits at a low framerate, but I found that Groundwiz RTS Demo as benchmark, and it renders at framerates up to 75 fps.
--edit: Unigine Heaven works acceptably enough. VSync is an issue, with what using RDP as render endpoint. Hope someone can get this to work on native Hyper-V.
--edit: These assholes didn't sign the Virtual Render Driver, so manual installation is a hassle.

Combat Pretzel fucked around with this message at 14:25 on Apr 9, 2019

redeyes
Sep 14, 2002
I LOVE THE WHITE STRIPES!

Combat Pretzel posted:

The File Explorer works so loving well in 1903. Jesus Christ.

Also, anyone knows some small standalone Direct3D game/app to test that vGPU in Sandbox?

--edit: That's certainly weird. The Sandbox desktop composits at a low framerate, but I found that Groundwiz RTS Demo as benchmark, and it renders at framerates up to 75 fps.
--edit: Unigine Heaven works acceptably enough. VSync is an issue, with what using RDP as render endpoint. Hope someone can get this to work on native Hyper-V.
--edit: These assholes didn't sign the Virtual Render Driver, so manual installation is a hassle.

The file explorer works better? How?

Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!

Whoops, forgot the /s

It was locking up a bunch of times for no reason.

Hipster_Doofus
Dec 20, 2003

Lovin' every minute of it.

fishmech posted:

About what?

https://www.google.com/search?q=disingenuous

hth

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames


Salad Prong


That sure is a good summary of your post, I guess?

Ur Getting Fatter
Jun 9, 2007

Fast Food Fight



Grimey Drawer

Yo, I'm gearing up to do a clean stock install of Win10 before I upgrade to Pro.

Am I setting up myself for trouble if I backup my daily use app's program folders so I can just copy them over and and not have to redo all my settings?

SwissArmyDruid
Feb 14, 2014



Upgrade to pro, THEN clean stock install.

Ur Getting Fatter
Jun 9, 2007

Fast Food Fight



Grimey Drawer

SwissArmyDruid posted:

Upgrade to pro, THEN clean stock install.

Edit: nvm actually I thought that it would be a better idea to upgrade to Pro after a clean install to avoid activation issues?

This is a laptop so I figured Microsoft has probably tied my hardware to a Home license.

Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!

With 1903 they've changed the handling of Zen CPUs. My Threadripper used to drop to 2.16GHz (or whatever it is exactly) doing simple poo poo like watching a Youtube video and nothing else, now it doesn't really go below 3GHz.

Hipster_Doofus
Dec 20, 2003

Lovin' every minute of it.

Ur Getting Fatter posted:

Am I setting up myself for trouble if I backup my daily use app's program folders so I can just copy them over and and not have to redo all my settings?

No, but that doesn't always work and you'll likely have to reinstall some of them anyway.

Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!

Why the Dolby Access app generates like 2-3MB/s of writes to the NTFS logfile in 1903, that I'd sure like to know. Or why the hell Delivery Optimization is going full blast on network, despite WU saying everything's up to date. This loving update.

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Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004



Combat Pretzel posted:

Why the Dolby Access app generates like 2-3MB/s of writes to the NTFS logfile in 1903, that I'd sure like to know. Or why the hell Delivery Optimization is going full blast on network, despite WU saying everything's up to date. This loving update.

Just report the issues and move on? This is beta software we're talking about.

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