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dissss
Nov 10, 2007

I'm a terrible forums poster with terrible opinions.

Here's a cat fucking a squid.

Lum posted:

I'm a full-time home worker. My laptop was set up by IT to only be able to get updates from their server, not from Microsoft.

It only ever sees an update if I visit one of our sites.

Because of this I haven't had a security update in 3 months and since I'm not allowed to get them from Microsoft there's gently caress-all I can do about it.

You work full time from home without a VPN?

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wolrah
May 8, 2006
what?


dissss posted:

You work full time from home without a VPN?

Depending on what you do a VPN may not be necessary. I work from home and the VPN links I have set up are all purely for convenience rather than necessity. Most of my work is through Google Apps or other "cloud" type stuff.

dissss
Nov 10, 2007

I'm a terrible forums poster with terrible opinions.

Here's a cat fucking a squid.

wolrah posted:

Depending on what you do a VPN may not be necessary. I work from home and the VPN links I have set up are all purely for convenience rather than necessity. Most of my work is through Google Apps or other "cloud" type stuff.

In which case you presumably can get Windows and AV updates from outside the corporate network.

Lowtechs
Jan 12, 2001


Grimey Drawer

Well in build 10565 when I click on a link in an email I finally got a box pop up asking me which browser to open it with. It was annoying when having firefox open already a link opens in Edge. No more!

Lum
Aug 13, 2003



dissss posted:

You work full time from home without a VPN?

The corporate network blocks outbound port 22 and disables split tunneling. Part of my job is managing a large number of routers scattered about the country that would otherwise be physically visited by a numpty in a white van.

I guess I could log on to the VPN and then be able to do no work while I sit around waiting for the corporate IT overlords to bless me with an update, or I could manage them from a personal machine but I really shouldn't have to.

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013

Oh? You're
approaching me?


Is there any way of fixing the fault where a tablet won't come out of sleep properly, where the Start button still vibrates but the display doesn't switch on and usually necessitates either a hard shutdown or waiting for like three hours until it decides it wants to wake up again? I've had it on 8.1 and 10 on two different tablets at this point.

Peewi
Nov 8, 2012



Is there any way to change the language of Windows apps besides changing your home location? I've got Windows itself in English, but all the apps are in Danish just because I live in Denmark.

EDIT: Oh, it's the list of languages and not the region setting that decides the app language. I just had to hit "set as default" on English.

Peewi fucked around with this message at 17:03 on Oct 17, 2015

EpicCodeMonkey
Feb 19, 2011


Goddamit. I have an old Dell e6510 which I've been carrying the last 5 years - I replaced the HD with a SSD four years ago and then promptly lost the Win7 disc.

Now I just want to clean install Win10, but the upgrade keeps failing with an unknown error. I can't reinstall a fresh Win7, because the chucklefucks at Dell have pulled all the ISOs and Microsoft won't recognize my OEM key for a retail install.

Is there anyway I can ensure this thing is fingerprinted correctly for a free license without being able to finish the upgrade, then do a clean install? I'm worried if I wipe it now I'll be stuck without any valid OS despite having a legit OEM key.

dud root
Mar 30, 2008


Is it possible to upgrade from 10240 to 10565 using the iso? The option to keep programs is greyed out because of language differences, but changing everything to US (Locale, keyboard) doesnt help

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me





EpicCodeMonkey posted:

Is there anyway I can ensure this thing is fingerprinted correctly for a free license without being able to finish the upgrade, then do a clean install? I'm worried if I wipe it now I'll be stuck without any valid OS despite having a legit OEM key.
There's an Insider Build (10565) that will take earlier Windows keys during the clean install process. You'll either need to sign up for Insider Preview, or wait for them to update their Media Creation Tool to that version. If you have the sticker key though you should still be able to authenticate with a regular Windows 7 ISO.

Lum
Aug 13, 2003



EpicCodeMonkey posted:

Is there anyway I can ensure this thing is fingerprinted correctly for a free license without being able to finish the upgrade, then do a clean install? I'm worried if I wipe it now I'll be stuck without any valid OS despite having a legit OEM key.

There's a certain piracy tool by someone called Daz that will inject the necessary digital signature into a retail build to turn it into an OEM build. Just for god's sake don't install the BIOS emulator stuff that also comes with it if you want a legit install that will pass validation when upgrading.

EpicCodeMonkey
Feb 19, 2011


Thanks guys. I ended up just using an old Win7 Pro x64 ISO I had archived from MSDN during my Uni days, which accepted my key just fine. Strange, since the MS website said it was OEM (and it came with the laptop as a COA) but who cares, really.

Currently leaving it to install some 200+ updates, just so I can download Win10 for the third time and retry an upgrade yet again -- and then rewipe it to start afresh with Win10. Definitely the most frustrating thing I've ever had to do on a PC (and I'm a career embedded software developer, who has serviced family WinME machines).

Next time I'll just give up on the win license and go Debian.

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004



EpicCodeMonkey posted:

Thanks guys. I ended up just using an old Win7 Pro x64 ISO I had archived from MSDN during my Uni days, which accepted my key just fine. Strange, since the MS website said it was OEM (and it came with the laptop as a COA) but who cares, really.

Currently leaving it to install some 200+ updates, just so I can download Win10 for the third time and retry an upgrade yet again -- and then rewipe it to start afresh with Win10. Definitely the most frustrating thing I've ever had to do on a PC (and I'm a career embedded software developer, who has serviced family WinME machines).

Next time I'll just give up on the win license and go Debian.

The point is that you're learning. Windows is an unmitigated disaster of poo poo and you're better off using almost anything else.

WattsvilleBlues
Jan 25, 2005

Every demon wants his pound of flesh

EpicCodeMonkey posted:

Currently leaving it to install some 200+ updates, just so I can download Win10 for the third time and retry an upgrade yet again -- and then rewipe it to start afresh with Win10. Definitely the most frustrating thing I've ever had to do on a PC (and I'm a career embedded software developer, who has serviced family WinME machines).

Next time I'll just give up on the win license and go Debian.

I'm pretty sure that once Windows 7 is installed you can just download the Windows 10 ISO/media creation tool and get going. Without installing 6 years of updates.

Zero VGS
Aug 16, 2002
"It has gunfights and shit!"


Lipstick Apathy

I have any computer I upgrade from Windows 7 or 8, to 10, using the official windows updater.

Then, I do a fresh install using the official Windows 10 ISO, generated from the official media builder and turned into a bootable USB drive (or, alternatively, I use Acronis True Image to image Windows 10 onto a PC).

Windows 10 will at random:

1) Activate as soon as it goes online

2) Activate after an hour

3) Activate after two days

4) Activate after a week

5) Never activate

All in roughly equal proportions. I've seen this behavior across dozens of PCs and about 4 different Windows 10 clone images (Acronis True Image).

So, what the gently caress. Now, after a couple days and some prayer, eventually a Windows 10 image might start activating each new PC instantly, and once it starts doing that it continues to work instantly. If I change absolutely anything on the ghost image, the process of "You must connect to the internet to activate Windows" and "This product key is blocked" errors begin again, only to disappear again just as mysteriously.

Microsoft made it pretty clear that I'm free to do clean installs after the initial upgrade, but what in the hell is happening behind the scenes where both clean ISO installs and Acronis images are rolling the dice? Are the Win10 activation servers still this loving swamped or something?

EpicCodeMonkey
Feb 19, 2011


Well I was wrong, the process could indeed get worse. After reinstalling Win7 and let it churn through the 200+ updates (just to give it the best chance to actually upgrade) I left it overnight again running the Media Creation Tool, and come back in the morning for it to be stuck saying my win7 install isn't activated.

So now tonight I get to phone activate Win7, so I can start a *sixth* download and upgrade attempt of Win10. We have a lovely home ADSL connection so each attempt takes several hours as the Microsoft guys have never heard of catching downloads.

Overall I now rate this a WinME out of 10. The worst part is its never been a technical issue, just lovely programming and lovely DRM blocking my way.

Phoenixan
Jan 16, 2010

Just Keep Cool-idge


WattsvilleBlues posted:

I'm pretty sure that once Windows 7 is installed you can just download the Windows 10 ISO/media creation tool and get going. Without installing 6 years of updates.
To get the Win 10 install going on my recent build, I just installed Win 7 retail, installed enough of the drivers to get it online & activated, then immediately downloaded the Windows 10 updater. Worked just fine.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me





EpicCodeMonkey posted:

We have a lovely home ADSL connection so each attempt takes several hours as the Microsoft guys have never heard of catching downloads.
Have the media creation tool make a USB drive.

Don Lapre
Mar 28, 2001

If you're having problems you're either holding the phone wrong or you have tiny girl hands.


EpicCodeMonkey posted:

Well I was wrong, the process could indeed get worse. After reinstalling Win7 and let it churn through the 200+ updates (just to give it the best chance to actually upgrade) I left it overnight again running the Media Creation Tool, and come back in the morning for it to be stuck saying my win7 install isn't activated.

So now tonight I get to phone activate Win7, so I can start a *sixth* download and upgrade attempt of Win10. We have a lovely home ADSL connection so each attempt takes several hours as the Microsoft guys have never heard of catching downloads.

Overall I now rate this a WinME out of 10. The worst part is its never been a technical issue, just lovely programming and lovely DRM blocking my way.

There is zero reason on win 7 to do more than install network drivers and activate. Turn off auto updates and upgrade to win 10

ilkhan
Oct 7, 2004

IF I JUST LICK ENOUGH BOOT LEATHER, BIG DADDY TRUMP WILL SURELY LOVE ME

Ghostlight posted:

Have the media creation tool make a USB drive.
Seriously.
Wtf dude, you're complaining about a non issue.

Or download the preview release iso, it lets you drop in a win 7 serial directly.

Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!

Hope your plans to use Edge as main browser eventually weren't time-sensitive, because word is that extension support has possibly been pushed back to the Redstone release due Summer 2016.

Guillermus
Dec 28, 2009




I'm using it mainly as twitch player on my dual screen setup and I'd use it as main if it had some sort of adblock (a good one). I don't mind using firefox/edge combo a few more months.

keevo
Jun 16, 2011

WAKE UP


Edit: Nvm I just realized this is a Windows 10 thread and not a general Windows thread

WattsvilleBlues
Jan 25, 2005

Every demon wants his pound of flesh

https://www.thurrott.com/windows/wi...ovember-release

quote:

And unlike the post-RTM Windows Insider builds we’ve been getting, the Fall Update will ship as a cumulative update, not as a full build.


I don't care the if the update comes through Windows Update as a patch or whatever, but they'd release updated ISOs for clean installs, wouldn't they?

Oh, didn't see this bit:

quote:

Recovery tools. The Push Button Reset feature will be updated so that resetting the PC will reset it to the Windows 10 Fall Update, not the July RTM release. If you upgraded from Windows 8.1, you will lose PC maker customizations. (This won’t happen on Windows 10 PCs.)

That is great.

WattsvilleBlues fucked around with this message at 21:46 on Oct 21, 2015

The Slack Lagoon
Jun 17, 2008



I want to swap my windows laptop drive for a ssd. I heard that there may be some issues with cloning windows 10? I'd there a guide for cloning drives in 10?

Halo14
Sep 11, 2001


Massasoit posted:

I want to swap my windows laptop drive for a ssd. I heard that there may be some issues with cloning windows 10? I'd there a guide for cloning drives in 10?

I successfully used a free program called Reflect to do this. If you're getting a Samsung SSD use their migration tool.

Guillermus
Dec 28, 2009




Halo14 posted:

I successfully used a free program called Reflect to do this. If you're getting a Samsung SSD use their migration tool.

I've done this going from an Intel SSD to a Samsung Evo with no issues at all. It's a great tool.

Doomsday Jesus
Oct 8, 2004

Doomsday Jesus we need you now.

OK, what am I missing?

I thought EDGE was the new browser for Windows 10, but all my websites pinned to the task bar open in IE. In addition to that I have EDGE pinned to the task bar, but I cannot pin websites opened in EDGE to the task bar, only the start menu. Once pinned there I cannot pin them to the task bar. Is that not possible?

XBenedict
May 23, 2006

YOUR LIPS SAY 0, BUT YOUR EYES SAY 1.



Doomsday Jesus posted:

OK, what am I missing?

I thought EDGE was the new browser for Windows 10, but all my websites pinned to the task bar open in IE. In addition to that I have EDGE pinned to the task bar, but I cannot pin websites opened in EDGE to the task bar, only the start menu. Once pinned there I cannot pin them to the task bar. Is that not possible?

Why are you pinning links to the taskbar? Why not just turn on the Favorites bar in Edge (or Chrome...or Firefox) and bookmark them there? This doesn't seem to be a problem that needs a solution.

Orcs and Ostriches
Aug 26, 2010




The Great Twist

I tried to move my windows 10 with the samsung migration tool, but it wouldn't find the installed OS. This was a few days after release, so I don't know if there's an update to fix it or not. Tried it on a few different machine and drive combos to no avail until I gave up.

Guillermus
Dec 28, 2009




Orcs and Ostriches posted:

I tried to move my windows 10 with the samsung migration tool, but it wouldn't find the installed OS. This was a few days after release, so I don't know if there's an update to fix it or not. Tried it on a few different machine and drive combos to no avail until I gave up.

If you did the following steps:
-Cloning the HDD
-Unplug the old one and plug the new one where the old one was
-Boot normally

And still didn't detect your OS, I'd recommend you to burn a windows 10 .iso and launch the installation then select the tools to fix the boot sectors then launch your OS normally.

Orcs and Ostriches
Aug 26, 2010




The Great Twist

Guillermus posted:

If you did the following steps:
-Cloning the HDD
-Unplug the old one and plug the new one where the old one was
-Boot normally

And still didn't detect your OS, I'd recommend you to burn a windows 10 .iso and launch the installation then select the tools to fix the boot sectors then launch your OS normally.

I couldn't clone at all with the Samsung Migration tool - as in, when trying to copy the windows 10 to the new Samsung SSD, the software didn't detect an OS to transfer. Other methods (clonezilla) worked fine, and I've had no issues with the samsung software using it on Win 7/8 installs.

Rexxed
May 1, 2010

Dis is amazing!
I gotta try dis!



I've found Macrium Reflect Free to be consistently easy to use and successful in the last 20 or so drive clones I've done, even compared to CloneZilla and samsung migration tool: http://www.macrium.com/reflectfree.aspx

When you're done the move go to the system protection control panel and check that the disk has system protection set to On so it can make restore points, sometimes cloning turns it off or shows it as on for a nonexistant disk.

Guillermus
Dec 28, 2009




Orcs and Ostriches posted:

I couldn't clone at all with the Samsung Migration tool - as in, when trying to copy the windows 10 to the new Samsung SSD, the software didn't detect an OS to transfer. Other methods (clonezilla) worked fine, and I've had no issues with the samsung software using it on Win 7/8 installs.

Weird then. I cloned my dad's HDD going from an old rear end 200gb SATA 2 HDD with Windows 10 (upgraded from Win 7 home premium 32bit) to a samsung evo without issues.

Doomsday Jesus
Oct 8, 2004

Doomsday Jesus we need you now.

XBenedict posted:

Why are you pinning links to the taskbar? Why not just turn on the Favorites bar in Edge (or Chrome...or Firefox) and bookmark them there? This doesn't seem to be a problem that needs a solution.

Because I have done it on every OS I have used since 2000?

xylo
Feb 21, 2007


Guillermus posted:

I've done this going from an Intel SSD to a Samsung Evo with no issues at all. It's a great tool.
I used this on my daughters computer when I put an SSD in it. However, it didn't do a straight clone -- it actually ended up shrinking the reserve partition which then caused Windows 10 updates to fail. I had to get another tool to resize the partitions to get it all sorted out. Everything else on the windows partition worked fine.

ilkhan
Oct 7, 2004

IF I JUST LICK ENOUGH BOOT LEATHER, BIG DADDY TRUMP WILL SURELY LOVE ME

Doomsday Jesus posted:

Because I have done it on every OS I have used since 2000?
Not like anything has changed in the last 15 years.

Segmentation Fault
Jun 7, 2012


Combat Pretzel posted:

Hope your plans to use Edge as main browser eventually weren't time-sensitive, because word is that extension support has possibly been pushed back to the Redstone release due Summer 2016.

Welp lmao

dissss
Nov 10, 2007

I'm a terrible forums poster with terrible opinions.

Here's a cat fucking a squid.

Doomsday Jesus posted:

OK, what am I missing?

Edge is garbage and not fit to be a primary browser on a desktop class system.

Just use IE/Chrome/Firefox like normal

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hooah
Feb 6, 2006
WTF?

I've noticed that when I wake up my laptop, some windows that were maximized become un-maximized. How can I start tracking down what's causing this? It isn't happening on my desktop, so maybe it's something with the Intel integrated graphics?

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