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redeyes
Sep 14, 2002
I LOVE THE WHITE STRIPES!

Don Lapre posted:

Clicks next without reading anything.

That is my guess.

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Gerdalti
May 24, 2003

SPOON!


Don Lapre posted:

Clicks next without reading anything.

As an aside, these are exactly the people who:
1) Should be on the latest/most secure version of Windows
2) Should be getting the forced automatic updates

Seems like a solid plan to me.

Knot My President!
Jan 10, 2005




How do I change where C: drive backs up? It's currently backing up the entirety of C: drive in my Games (D:) drive and I want to move it to my storage (F:) platter drive. I can't seem to find an option for this in Windows 10.

Any ideas?

Lowtechs
Jan 12, 2001


Grimey Drawer

Armchair Calvinist posted:

How do I change where C: drive backs up? It's currently backing up the entirety of C: drive in my Games (D:) drive and I want to move it to my storage (F:) platter drive. I can't seem to find an option for this in Windows 10.

Any ideas?

It is in the old Control Panel >File History or in Setting > Update and Security > Back up Options.

shadow puppet of a
Jan 10, 2007

NO TENGO SCORPIO



I got booted out of the Insider program and lost my free Windows 10 license for something as minor as a simple motherboard, CPU and ram change. I mean, the keyboard, mouse and several fans are all the same. What gives MS?

ThermoPhysical
Dec 26, 2007





shadow puppet of a posted:

I got booted out of the Insider program and lost my free Windows 10 license for something as minor as a simple motherboard, CPU and ram change. I mean, the keyboard, mouse and several fans are all the same. What gives MS?

That's kind of how it's worked for ever.

Speaking of this, I'm getting a bigger case and with it, a new motherboard and CPU. Would I just have to go from 7 Ultimate to 10 instead of 7 to 8 to 10?

Did they change it so you can use 7/8's key as 10's key yet?

dont be mean to me
May 2, 2007

I'm interplanetary, bitch
Let's go to Mars




shadow puppet of a posted:

I got booted out of the Insider program and lost my free Windows 10 license for something as minor as a simple motherboard, CPU and ram change. I mean, the keyboard, mouse and several fans are all the same. What gives MS?

At present all free upgrades are OEM upgrades regardless of your previous license. ^ ^ ^ There is talk of accepting old Windows keys in future builds but I don't think anything's born it out yet.

Also Ultimate upgrades to Pro (there hasn't been an Ultimate edition since 7), but yes you can go direct from 7.

dud root
Mar 30, 2008


Gerdalti posted:

As an aside, these are exactly the people who:
1) Should be on the latest/most secure version of Windows
2) Should be getting the forced automatic updates

Seems like a solid plan to me.

I do agree however I shudder at the thought of sheer number of small businesses (5-20 people for arguments sake) with no domain, no centralised IT, no WSUS and a shitload of critical specialised software so fragile it only currently runs on 4 out of 5 working days. Clicking next will mean a lot of downtime for family owned business

Factor Mystic
Mar 19, 2006

Baby's First Post-Apocalyptic Fiction

dud root posted:

I do agree however I shudder at the thought of sheer number of small businesses (5-20 people for arguments sake) with no domain, no centralised IT, no WSUS and a shitload of critical specialised software so fragile it only currently runs on 4 out of 5 working days. Clicking next will mean a lot of downtime for family owned business

Yeah but if that's actually the situation then it was only ever a matter of time until they clicked next on a convincing pop up and took down the business anyway.

Happy_Misanthrope
Aug 3, 2007

"I wanted to kill you, go to your funeral, and anyone who showed up to mourn you, I wanted to kill them too."

Factor Mystic posted:

Yeah but if that's actually the situation then it was only ever a matter of time until they clicked next on a convincing pop up and took down the business anyway.

Discussion › Serious Hardware / Software Crap > Windows 10: The business would have gone down anyway

Phoenixan
Jan 16, 2010

Just Keep Cool-idge


dud root posted:

I do agree however I shudder at the thought of sheer number of small businesses (5-20 people for arguments sake) with no domain, no centralised IT, no WSUS and a shitload of critical specialised software so fragile it only currently runs on 4 out of 5 working days. Clicking next will mean a lot of downtime for family owned business
I work in such a business, but everything we do is on a webapp that runs in Firefox. Some of our machines run some flavor of Ubuntu and it's fine.

GenderSelectScreen
Mar 7, 2010


College Slice

God damnit Windows 10! Stop trying to update and restart in the middle of work.

Double Punctuation
Dec 30, 2009

Ships were made for sinking;
Whiskey made for drinking;
If we were made of cellophane
We'd all get stinking drunk much faster!


Hitlers Gay Secret posted:

God damnit Windows 10! Stop trying to update and restart in the middle of work.

But that would be reasonable and logical!

(The only way to do this is either to set the time you want it to restart, or disable the Update Orchestrator service, which disables updates entirely.)

Thermopyle
Jul 1, 2003

...the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. —Bertrand Russell



dpbjinc posted:

But that would be reasonable and logical!

(The only way to do this is either to set the time you want it to restart, or disable the Update Orchestrator service, which disables updates entirely.)

Or set a policy.

redeyes
Sep 14, 2002
I LOVE THE WHITE STRIPES!

Thermopyle posted:

Or set a policy.

So basically only Pro and Enterprise can defer updates. Home/Core gets them whenever MS wants.

Thermopyle
Jul 1, 2003

...the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. —Bertrand Russell



Thermopyle posted:

Or set a policy.

I wasn't sure if this post went through. My computer blue-screened the very instant I clicked the post button.

I've only had a couple of BSOD's on Win10 and I've been using it since pretty early pre release versions...

BlankSystemDaemon
Mar 13, 2009

System Access Node Not Found



redeyes posted:

So basically only Pro and Enterprise can defer updates. Home/Core gets them whenever MS wants.
The way I see it, if you're smart enough to need to defer updates, you should probably be using Windows 10 Pro. In my experience, the vast majority of people don't need to defer updates when the computer is setup to start up at 3 in the morning (which it defaulted to, based on normal 8-16 working hours for me in Denmark, at least), install updates and then shut down again, and in fact benefit from having an up-to-date computer.

Magnus Praeda
Jul 18, 2003
The largess in the land.

D. Ebdrup posted:

The way I see it, if you're smart enough to need to defer updates, you should probably be using Windows 10 Pro. In my experience, the vast majority of people don't need to defer updates when the computer is setup to start up at 3 in the morning (which it defaulted to, based on normal 8-16 working hours for me in Denmark, at least), install updates and then shut down again, and in fact benefit from having an up-to-date computer.

I shouldn't have to spend an extra $40 just to defer updates, though. Especially since I don't really need any of the other pro features (like joining a domain or hyper-v) at home.

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004



Solution to all Windows 10 issues / deferring the Win 10 update: just don't restart into your Bootcamp partition. No problems.

Double Punctuation
Dec 30, 2009

Ships were made for sinking;
Whiskey made for drinking;
If we were made of cellophane
We'd all get stinking drunk much faster!


Thermopyle posted:

Or set a policy.

Which policy? The "No auto-restart with logged on users" policy does nothing in Windows 10.

Mak0rz
Aug 2, 2008



Sometimes my taskbar gets stretched a few pixels too long and extends offscreen to the right. Why on earth is this happening? It doesn't happen to the desktop at all, just the taskbar . Futzing with the display in some way, like flipping it upside down and back again or changing the resolution, fixes it. It's a laptop screen and I'm using Nvidia Optimus drivers. I can't seem to pinpoint any cause. I just look down sometimes and notice it.

Note that these two images are from the exact same area on my screen (i.e. the bottom-right corner is the bottom-rightmost pixel):


Thermopyle
Jul 1, 2003

...the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. —Bertrand Russell



dpbjinc posted:

Which policy? The "No auto-restart with logged on users" policy does nothing in Windows 10.

I've never had Windows 10 restart since I enabled that policy.

Or maybe it's that I set auto-download and notify for install in Configure Automatic Updates.

frogbert
Jun 2, 2007


Mak0rz posted:

Sometimes my taskbar gets stretched a few pixels too long and extends offscreen to the right. Why on earth is this happening? It doesn't happen to the desktop at all, just the taskbar . Futzing with the display in some way, like flipping it upside down and back again or changing the resolution, fixes it. It's a laptop screen and I'm using Nvidia Optimus drivers. I can't seem to pinpoint any cause. I just look down sometimes and notice it.

Note that these two images are from the exact same area on my screen (i.e. the bottom-right corner is the bottom-rightmost pixel):



Dumb question but you don't have two slightly different images in the same folder that your desktop is rotating through do you?

Mak0rz
Aug 2, 2008



frogbert posted:

Dumb question but you don't have two slightly different images in the same folder that your desktop is rotating through do you?

No, I use this app that sets my background to the Bing image, which changes every day. The image for both clips are the same background.

I'm probably not explaining it clearly, but those two screenshots are of the exact same portion of my screen and there actually is no more to be seen beyond the right edge of the first shot. The right edge of both images is the 1920th vertical line.

Double Punctuation
Dec 30, 2009

Ships were made for sinking;
Whiskey made for drinking;
If we were made of cellophane
We'd all get stinking drunk much faster!


Thermopyle posted:

I've never had Windows 10 restart since I enabled that policy.

Or maybe it's that I set auto-download and notify for install in Configure Automatic Updates.

It's restarted on me. Specifically, it woke my laptop up after I closed my lid and restarted despite me having documents open.

dissss
Nov 10, 2007

I'm a terrible forums poster with terrible opinions.

Here's a cat fucking a squid.

D. Ebdrup posted:

The way I see it, if you're smart enough to need to defer updates, you should probably be using Windows 10 Pro.


Why?

D. Ebdrup posted:

In my experience, the vast majority of people don't need to defer updates when the computer is setup to start up at 3 in the morning (which it defaulted to, based on normal 8-16 working hours for me in Denmark, at least), install updates and then shut down again, and in fact benefit from having an up-to-date computer.

Yeah losing anything you had open. Also my HTPC never goes back to sleep after it wakes to do updates which is hugely irritating.

Don Lapre
Mar 28, 2001

If you're having problems you're either holding the phone wrong or you have tiny girl hands.


Microsoft upset people used the unlimited part of their unlimited data.

Hope you arn't a onedrive user

https://blog.onedrive.com/onedrive_changes/

Thermopyle
Jul 1, 2003

...the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. —Bertrand Russell



dpbjinc posted:

It's restarted on me. Specifically, it woke my laptop up after I closed my lid and restarted despite me having documents open.

I'm not sure what to tell you. I leave my desktop on 24/7, work on it multiple hours a day, and always leave unfinished work open on it, and I've never come back to a restarted computer since enabling those policies.

Weird.

Happy_Misanthrope
Aug 3, 2007

"I wanted to kill you, go to your funeral, and anyone who showed up to mourn you, I wanted to kill them too."

Don Lapre posted:

Microsoft upset people used the unlimited part of their unlimited data.

Hope you arn't a onedrive user

https://blog.onedrive.com/onedrive_changes/

Serves you right for using a bunch of space when they promised you a bunch of space, scrubs

Really how does MS ever get through the day without accidentally setting their own cubicles on fire

Phoenixan
Jan 16, 2010

Just Keep Cool-idge


I went ahead and moved everything over to Google Photos. OneDrive got kind of useless when they removed placeholders in Windows 10, plus breaking the ability to upload from Firefox or Chrome, making it doubly useless on my linux machine.

Sad, since it was honestly the most pain-free way to make photos sync between Apple devices and Windows, since iCloud liked to cause explorer.exe to crash repeatedly.

Don Lapre
Mar 28, 2001

If you're having problems you're either holding the phone wrong or you have tiny girl hands.


Phoenixan posted:

plus breaking the ability to upload from Firefox or Chrome, making it doubly useless on my linux machine.

o_O what were they thinking. That people love onedrive so much they would switch to IE and edge?

Happy_Misanthrope
Aug 3, 2007

"I wanted to kill you, go to your funeral, and anyone who showed up to mourn you, I wanted to kill them too."

They really basically just killed it as a viable consumer offering. From an integration perspective, there was little reason to use it over iCloud or Gdrive for OSX/Android platforms, but the price of Onedrive at least made it a viable option, which was really the only way it could hope to get inroads there. Well that, and the Office 365 deal - but I really wonder how long that will even be a minor pull for consumers, especially with Apple seemingly getting back to regularly improving its iWork suite now and Google committing to update its App offerings.

As bad it looks by itself, this isn't just "MS reneged on their promise" - this is basically a complete gutting of the service, at least with respect to any competitive advantage it may offer. The reduced free offering, the removal of 100/200gb competitive offers - it's as if they really just don't want to compete here anymore.

And hell, even outside of placeholder removal the Onedrive client is still bloody awful. Gdrive is still massively faster in syncing, especially on OSX.

Phoenixan
Jan 16, 2010

Just Keep Cool-idge


Don Lapre posted:

o_O what were they thinking. That people love onedrive so much they would switch to IE and edge?
Given that it'd just pop up and say "upload failed" without giving any specifics, I think they just broke the web uploads and haven't bothered testing or fixing it in browsers other than their own.

Don Lapre
Mar 28, 2001

If you're having problems you're either holding the phone wrong or you have tiny girl hands.


It would make sense they just do it as a slow kill off to the service.

maybe they will rename it again.

Magnus Praeda
Jul 18, 2003
The largess in the land.

Don Lapre posted:

It would make sense they just do it as a slow kill off to the service.

maybe they will rename it again.

Super-Deluxe MSN-Live-OneDrive-with-Bing now available on your Hotmail Outlook 365 account!

Phoenixan
Jan 16, 2010

Just Keep Cool-idge


Looks to me like they're just making it more a part of Office, rather than a stand-alone product.

"Office 365 Drive" has a nice ring to it.

Happy_Misanthrope
Aug 3, 2007

"I wanted to kill you, go to your funeral, and anyone who showed up to mourn you, I wanted to kill them too."

Phoenixan posted:

Looks to me like they're just making it more a part of Office, rather than a stand-alone product.
The best way to entice users to your software suite is to remove an advertised feature that actually gave it worth

quote:

"Office 365 Drive" has a nice ring to it.
wtf

beuges
Jul 4, 2005
fluffy bunny butterfly broomstick

The worst part about Microsoft is Microsoft. They have the potential to make awesome products... sometimes they even screw up and release some of them... but then Microsoft gets in the way and turns it into Microsoft(TM) Shitware(TM) 2016 R2 Powered by Microsoft(TM) Dumbo(R) With Bing(R) which takes all the great features that were initially released and fucks them up completely as a big up yours to everyone in the world.

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009





Perhaps the newish CEO can turn things around.

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beuges
Jul 4, 2005
fluffy bunny butterfly broomstick

Josh Lyman posted:

Perhaps the newish CEO can turn things around.

Satya's been CEO for 21 months now... I think he basically coined the motto "Mobile First, Cloud First"... ironic, since they're now gutting their cloud service.

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