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GOTTA STAY FAI
Mar 24, 2005

~no glitter in the gutter~
~no twilight galaxy~


College Slice

Zemyla posted:

Then Trump would form a third party and split the crazy vote.

When he doesn't get nominated by the GOP, that's exactly what he's going to do. At that point, the GOP can pick Jesus Christ himself to be the Republican presidential candidate and we'd still have another Clinton in the White House on January 20th.

GOTTA STAY FAI has a new favorite as of 15:12 on Feb 3, 2016

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trapped mouse
May 25, 2008


GOTTA STAY FAI posted:

When he doesn't get nominated by the GOP, that's exactly what he's going to do. At that point, the GOP can pick Jesus Christ himself to be the Republican presidential candidate and we'd still have another Clinton in the White House on January 20th.



I was wondering what was wrong with this graph, seeing as a difference of one degree is pretty significant for country-wide temperature. Then I saw the years on the X-axis. Welp

Letmebefrank
Oct 9, 2012

Entitled

trapped mouse posted:

I was wondering what was wrong with this graph, seeing as a difference of one degree is pretty significant for country-wide temperature. Then I saw the years on the X-axis. Welp

It is a normal way to represent "warmest years in record" as indicated.

However, I completely agree that most people will NOT read it as such, but instead think this is a time-series. At least the axis was discrete - if it would have been continuous (often seen) that would really been poo poo.

All in all - picture is relatively ok on my opinion. Temperature is one of those things where cropped y-axis is (usually) ok as the difference to 0 is not usually most important aspect.

Sentient Data
Aug 31, 2011

My molecule scrambler ray will disintegrate your armor with one blow!


Give me a break, that chart's amateur hour

Radio Paranoia
Jun 27, 2010

It is now safe to turn off your computer.


Sentient Data posted:

Give me a break, that chart's amateur hour



Makes sense. That was hell heating up in preparation for his death.

doodlebugs
Feb 18, 2015

by Lowtax


chickie nugs for brekkie
May 17, 2010


Sentient Data posted:

Give me a break, that chart's amateur hour





"Something something spurious correlations"

Torrannor
Apr 27, 2013

---FAGNER---
TEAM-MATE


Global warming/climate change causing instability (which itself can certainly cause a rise in piracy) is actually something people have warned about for years.

chickie nugs for brekkie
May 17, 2010


Try again dum dum

Wonder Turbine
Sep 22, 2011






Torrannor
Apr 27, 2013

---FAGNER---
TEAM-MATE


C.P.A.N. posted:

Try again dum dum

Ugh, I didn't look at the actual number of pirates. Now I feel dumb.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

"You are the best poster... do not let anyone say otherwise."


Aaaaaaaa

Hemingway To Go!
Nov 10, 2008

im stupider then dog shit, i dont give a shit, and i dont give a fuck, and i will never shut the fuck up, and i'll always Respect my enemys.
- ernest hemingway


188% of the jpg artifacts

Like it's almost lovely enough to be in a Sweet Bro and Hella Jeff comic

Pendragon
Jun 18, 2003

HE'S WATCHING YOU

Where on earth did you find such a travesty?

Fathis Munk
Feb 23, 2013

??? ?



0% understanding of pie charts. As well as most math in general I guess. Holy poo poo.

Somfin
Oct 25, 2010



Nap Ghost

Fathis Munk posted:

0% understanding of pie charts. As well as most math in general I guess. Holy poo poo.

I was gonna say that they got the slices the right relative sizes, but the 37% is clearly almost the same size as the 48%, so what the gently caress.

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

One Potato to rule them all,
One Potato to find them,
One Potato to bring them all
And in the darkness bind them.





Bread Liar

I once almost yelled at a suit at work for making a chart exactly like this for a meeting only to be told "It's only supposed to be representative."

That's when I discovered that to a certain type of person, "representative" means "just, like whatever looks pretty" and not, as I had thought, actually representative of the data being displayed.

zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos


Gorilla Salad posted:

I once almost yelled at a suit at work for making a chart exactly like this for a meeting only to be told "It's only supposed to be representative."

That's when I discovered that to a certain type of person, "representative" means "just, like whatever looks pretty" and not, as I had thought, actually representative of the data being displayed.


There's a sad part of me where I don't know that that's entirely wrong. Even a properly made pie chart is usually held in disdain compared to a histogram in a serious setting, so might as well go all the way and divorce it from anything quantitative if you just want the equivalent of clip art as backing to numbers.

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com


Next time please ask 'Representative of what?'. I've pushed at managers when they do stupid poo poo and occasionally get them to admit 'because it gets done what we need done, I don't care', or similar. It doesn't change or fix anything but you get to feel smug and right for a bit.

CharlieWhiskey
Aug 18, 2005

everything, all the time

this is the world

Gorilla Salad posted:

I once almost yelled at a suit at work for making a chart exactly like this for a meeting only to be told "It's only supposed to be representative."

That's when I discovered that to a certain type of person, "representative" means "just, like whatever looks pretty" and not, as I had thought, actually representative of the data being displayed.



Typically when I point out that numbers are significantly wrong and might lead to incorrect assumptions, I'm corrected and told they are "directionally correct".

Years out of school, slackers and dimwits are still trying to squirrel their way out of finishing their homework, and just couching their shortcomings in the smooth wrapper of business buzzwords.

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

One Potato to rule them all,
One Potato to find them,
One Potato to bring them all
And in the darkness bind them.





Bread Liar

Or, as it's also known as: Marketing.

Goddamn those people. Graphs, graphics, what's the difference? Just colours and shapes to put the buzzwords on. They don't mean anything.



And yet, despite saving the company on multiple occasions from being laughed at by our customers simply by saying "Hey your poo poo's all hosed up and broken", I'm the one who gets told to ignore the grievously incorrect graphs or I'll get in trouble with HR.


Sometimes I can almost forgive Fox News their blatantly misleading graphs because there's a chance they're just being made by marketing people.

ekuNNN
Nov 27, 2004




A bad graph because they managed to make a pizza look unappetizing

EricBauman
Nov 30, 2005

DOLF IS RECHTVAARDIG

And the biggest slice should start at the twelve o clock position, traditionally

TotalLossBrain
Oct 20, 2010

Hier graben!

I think it's time someone fully committed to both idiocy and pie charts made a pie chart that doesn't slice radially outward from the center at all. It should look like one of those hosed up pizzas.

Like this, but with more politics:

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com


Might as well combine it with a Venn diagram while we're at it.

zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos


Did somebody say Venn diagram


Keep Talking and Noone Explodes looked at decades of interface design and technical writing, and purposefully did everything opposite. The Bomb Defusal Manual is a work of art.

zedprime has a new favorite as of 19:26 on Feb 9, 2016

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com


Maybe I'm straight up retarded but that kinda makes sense. Might have been better to go with the flow diagram though.

Sentient Data
Aug 31, 2011

My molecule scrambler ray will disintegrate your armor with one blow!


It's a technically accurate way to show the information, but it's needlessly condensed (by design). Off the top of my head, a better diagram for clarity in a stressful situation would be a horizontal yes/no tree flowchart

E: and i'm an impatient idiot for apparently not reading your whole post

Vladimir Poutine
Aug 13, 2012



ekuNNN posted:



A bad graph because they managed to make a pizza look unappetizing

It doesn't do that bad a job of representing data but it's loving ugly.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Probation
Can't post for 4 days!


Nap Ghost

Vladimir Poutine posted:

It doesn't do that bad a job of representing data but it's loving ugly.

There's nothing a graphic designer can do about Ted Cruz

Panzer Skank
Jan 11, 2004

He's a regular-crab.
Not, like, a sex-crab.





I can't even tell if this counts as a chart because there's literally no information provided. What is the point of this graphic. Am I over thinking this.

edit: why is there a cheeto in alaska

Judge Schnoopy
Nov 2, 2005

dont even TRY it, pal

Panzer Skank posted:



I can't even tell if this counts as a chart because there's literally no information provided. What is the point of this graphic. Am I over thinking this.

edit: why is there a cheeto in alaska

I disagree this chart is pretty rad and I enjoy looking at it. Maybe organized by color, tallest to shortest / reddest to greenest would have been easier to interpret, but then the east coast gets mashed up and is harder to distinguish.

No Safe Word
Feb 26, 2005



Judge Schnoopy posted:

I disagree this chart is pretty rad and I enjoy looking at it. Maybe organized by color, tallest to shortest / reddest to greenest would have been easier to interpret, but then the east coast gets mashed up and is harder to distinguish.

Pretty rad at not being good for a visual comparison of things, I guess. Which, you know, charts are supposed to do.

I mean, yeah, you can see large differences easily. But you can't tell smaller differences apart because they're not aligned in anyway to make a visual inspection easy. Not to mention the bars are all just in the geographic center of the state, and not where the actual building is.

TheDon01
Mar 8, 2009




Panzer Skank posted:



edit: why is there a cheeto in alaska

We don't have many tall buildings here because of a massive amount of cheap and available space and we get a lot of earthquakes.

I wanna know why they put the bar where they did. That's a long way from anywhere.

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here


It looks like they put the one for New York upstate instead of on Manhattan.

Picnic Princess
Feb 9, 2008

I was under direct orders not to die




Panzer Skank posted:



I can't even tell if this counts as a chart because there's literally no information provided. What is the point of this graphic. Am I over thinking this.

edit: why is there a cheeto in alaska

I'm the big-rear end CANADA under the title

But seriously if my GIS or mapping profs saw me using that as a basemap for anything they would have flunked me

Intoluene
Jul 6, 2011

Activating self-destruct sequence!


Fun Shoe

zedprime posted:

Did somebody say Venn diagram


Keep Talking and Noone Explodes looked at decades of interface design and technical writing, and purposefully did everything opposite. The Bomb Defusal Manual is a work of art.

Everything about keep talking and nobody explodes is a masterpiece.

CharlieWhiskey
Aug 18, 2005

everything, all the time

this is the world

TheDon01 posted:

We don't have many tall buildings here because of a massive amount of cheap and available space and we get a lot of earthquakes.

I wanna know why they put the bar where they did. That's a long way from anywhere.

They put the bar roughly in the center of the state.

Carbon dioxide
Oct 9, 2012



Panzer Skank posted:



I can't even tell if this counts as a chart because there's literally no information provided. What is the point of this graphic. Am I over thinking this.

edit: why is there a cheeto in alaska

I don't know much about America but I'm gonna assume this is to scale.

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Maximum Tomfoolery
Apr 12, 2010



The Empire State building is as tall as Texas is wide. The ISS has to dodge it every 90 minutes.

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