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President Ark
May 16, 2010



Carbon dioxide posted:

From an European point of view, Sanders is center/center-left, the Democratic party as a whole is center-right/far-right, the Republican party as a whole is extreme right, and Trump is an idiot that can't even be categorized in any kind of political scale. America has no real leftist politicians and they have no clue what a socialist actually is.

Also, red has always been the colour of socialism/the left, and in graphs in Europe, rightist parties are often shown as blue (because it's a clear 'opposite' to red).

to most americans socialist/leftist literally means "any politician i don't agree with"

there are angry conservative bloggers labeling trump as a leftist

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TotalLossBrain
Oct 20, 2010

Hier graben!

Carbon dioxide posted:

From an European point of view, Sanders is center/center-left, the Democratic party as a whole is center-right/far-right, the Republican party as a whole is extreme right, and Trump is an idiot that can't even be categorized in any kind of political scale. America has no real leftist politicians and they have no clue what a socialist actually is.

Also, red has always been the colour of socialism/the left, and in graphs in Europe, rightist parties are often shown as blue (because it's a clear 'opposite' to red).

However, we enjoy calling everything left of GWB "socialism", as the poster above me explained.
Someone you don't like? SOCIALIST
Something you disagree with? It's SOCIALIST
Can't stand your neighbor? He's probably a feminazi SOCIALIST

If Americans ever found out what the word actually means, heads will explode.

TotalLossBrain has a new favorite as of 21:50 on May 11, 2016

Maxwells Demon
Jan 15, 2007




Carbon dioxide posted:

From an European point of view, Sanders is center/center-left, the Democratic party as a whole is center-right/far-right, the Republican party as a whole is extreme right, and Trump is an idiot that can't even be categorized in any kind of political scale. America has no real leftist politicians and they have no clue what a socialist actually is.

Also, red has always been the colour of socialism/the left, and in graphs in Europe, rightist parties are often shown as blue (because it's a clear 'opposite' to red).

Of course, in American we don't elect weird nationalists like Front Nationale and UKIP

Kennel
May 1, 2008

BAWWW-UNH!


Maxwells Demon posted:

Of course, in American we don't elect weird nationalists like Front Nationale and UKIP



"Persus"

CharlieWhiskey
Aug 18, 2005

everything, all the time

this is the world

President Ark posted:

to most americans socialist/leftist literally means "any politician i don't agree with"

there are angry conservative bloggers labeling trump as a leftist

Given his voting history, hard line conservatives would view him far to the left of most republican candidates in recent years.

swamp waste
Nov 4, 2009

There is some very sensual touching going on in the cutscene there. i don't actually think it means anything sexual but it's cool how it contrasts with modern ideas of what bad ass stuff should be like. It even seems authentic to some kind of chivalric masculine touching from a tyme longe gone



I'm a strong believer in this. If you'd like to know more i'll be sitting outside the coffee shop until it closes talking loudly to no one in particular

duckmaster
Sep 13, 2004
Mr and Mrs Duck go and stay in a nice hotel.

One night they call room service for some condoms as things are heating up.

The guy arrives and says "do you want me to put it on your bill"

Mr Duck says "what kind of pervert do you think I am?!

QUACK QUACK


Maxwells Demon posted:

Of course, in American we don't elect weird nationalists like Front Nationale and UKIP



do you even get the opportunity

The Cheshire Cat
Jun 10, 2008



Fun Shoe

Aramek posted:

It's a fun side effect of how retarded libertarian "beep, boop, use of force?" thought processes are.

Yeah considering they few taxation as "unlawful coercion" I don't think they're using the same scale for "use of force" as the rest of the world.

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010


duckmaster posted:

do you even get the opportunity

The American Nazi Party puts out a candidate every election.

duckmaster
Sep 13, 2004
Mr and Mrs Duck go and stay in a nice hotel.

One night they call room service for some condoms as things are heating up.

The guy arrives and says "do you want me to put it on your bill"

Mr Duck says "what kind of pervert do you think I am?!

QUACK QUACK


Henchman of Santa posted:

The American Nazi Party puts out a candidate every election.

You realise that the European parliament elections are literally like voting for the city dog catcher right?

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010


duckmaster posted:

You realise that the European parliament elections are literally like voting for the city dog catcher right?

OK? I'm just saying that we have parties like that, albeit with far fewer supporters.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Don't be so gloomy. After all it's not that awful. Like the fella says, in Italy for thirty years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder, and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, and the Renaissance.






Smellrose

duckmaster posted:

You realise that the European parliament elections are literally like voting for the city dog catcher right?

Yeah, and we don't elect Nazis for city dog catcher, either.

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.


ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:

Yeah, and we don't elect Nazis for city dog catcher, either.

I mean, you can probably find a few in some podunk town.

Statistically speaking, it's inevitable.

Zemyla
Aug 6, 2008

I'll take her off your hands. Pleasure doing business with you!

Would a Nazi dogcatcher's politics affect his performance? Would he give German Shepherds more Lebensraum? Would he have a gas chamber in the back of his truck or something?

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

Jozy loves scoring like a fat kid loves eating cake.



Henchman of Santa posted:

OK? I'm just saying that we have parties like that, albeit with far fewer supporters.

Take a look at the Front National's policies and see how they differ from Trump's platform. He's going to get a lot more votes in November than any of the parties on that map got.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012



Zemyla posted:

Would a Nazi dogcatcher's politics affect his performance? Would he give German Shepherds more Lebensraum? Would he have a gas chamber in the back of his truck or something?

Yes.

Carbon dioxide
Oct 9, 2012



Maxwells Demon posted:

Of course, in American we don't elect weird nationalists like Front Nationale and UKIP



Those are literally the kind of parties Trump would run if he lived in a many-party democracy. Trump actually reminds me of the PVV leader:

- Shouts utter nonsense about immigrants/muslims
- wants to build a wall around the continent/country
- gets a lot of votes but because they never have any clear and feasible solutions, nobody in government (except for their own goons) can cooperate with them, and those who try tend to get burned
- Awful fake hair

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

-=SEND HELP=-




Pillbug

President Ark posted:

to most americans socialist/leftist literally means "any politician i don't agree with"

there are angry conservative bloggers labeling trump as a leftist

Most commonly it's something like "you are in favor of a tax rate greater than 0%? loving socialist, ." Plus literally anything that will help the working class, up to and including jobs programs, is considered socialism and must be destroyed.

Shai-Hulud
Jul 10, 2008

But it feels so right!


Lipstick Apathy

Carbon dioxide posted:

Those are literally the kind of parties Trump would run if he lived in a many-party democracy. Trump actually reminds me of the PVV leader:

- Shouts utter nonsense about immigrants/muslims
- wants to build a wall around the continent/country
- gets a lot of votes but because they never have any clear and feasible solutions, nobody in government (except for their own goons) can cooperate with them, and those who try tend to get burned
- Awful fake hair

Roblo
Dec 10, 2007

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!


Henchman of Santa posted:

OK? I'm just saying that we have parties like that, albeit with far fewer supporters.

It's skewed a little bit though, because most people ignore the EU voting stuff. So you get a higher proportion of people voting for anti EU parties - leading to us paying for UKIP MEP'S to not turn up. It's great. (It's not )

Aramoro
Jun 1, 2012




ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:

Yeah, and we don't elect Nazis for city dog catcher, either.

You guys do elect guys like Sheriff Joe though

I was going to make a short game of Le Penn or Cruz/Trump but realised it would be unfair as they polices are identical in many cases.

SneezeOfTheDecade
Feb 6, 2011

2:35 PM, 5 April 2017. 153 decibels. Caused the cat actual harm.





It took me a minute to figure out why the series of photos (just before "JA JA JA") unsettled me - they're all subtly Syncro-Voxed.

For what it's worth, the full music video is kind of amazing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMQkV5cTuoY

duckmaster
Sep 13, 2004
Mr and Mrs Duck go and stay in a nice hotel.

One night they call room service for some condoms as things are heating up.

The guy arrives and says "do you want me to put it on your bill"

Mr Duck says "what kind of pervert do you think I am?!

QUACK QUACK


Henchman of Santa posted:

OK? I'm just saying that we have parties like that, albeit with far fewer supporters.

edited to be less obnoxious:

The US electoral system is set up in such a way that third party candidates barely get a look in, let alone fourth and fifth. The European Parliament is set up in such a way that everyone gets a look in - the governing coalition contains one hundred and fifty three parties with four hundred and seventy five MEPs between them.

The comparisons between the US and European systems are in this case irrelevant.

duckmaster has a new favorite as of 01:42 on May 13, 2016

SneezeOfTheDecade
Feb 6, 2011

2:35 PM, 5 April 2017. 153 decibels. Caused the cat actual harm.




MrUnderbridge
Jun 25, 2011




Wellp. You must admit, it did escalate quickly.

Stoatbringer
Sep 15, 2004

naw, you love it
you little ho-bot


Travis343 posted:

War. War never changes.

War, huh yeah. What is it good for?

Zemyla
Aug 6, 2008

I'll take her off your hands. Pleasure doing business with you!

QUACKTASTIC
Mar 31, 2010

__(.)<
\___)


I love everything about this

Fathis Munk
Feb 23, 2013

??? ?



sweeperbravo
May 18, 2012

AUNT GWEN'S COLD SHAPE (!)


Nothing is correct about that graph except the spelling, which is impressive.

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 14, 2013



sweeperbravo posted:

Nothing is correct about that graph except the spelling, which is impressive.
In British English it's juniour and seniour.

Jmcrofts
Jan 7, 2008

just chillin' in the club

Lipstick Apathy

kalstrams posted:

In British English it's juniour and seniour.

British people don't use those terms to label the grades of school though

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 14, 2013



Jmcrofts posted:

British people don't use those terms to label the grades of school though
Neither do they put a "u" letter in either of the words, though.

Stex T
Mar 7, 2005

Shut the fuck up and get out. Have fun being a slave of the rich and powerful.


kalstrams posted:

In British English it's juniour and seniour.

What's worse is that the pronounce sophomore as To-MAH-To.

FreudianSlippers
Apr 12, 2010

Shooting and Fucking
are the same thing!



Maxwells Demon posted:

Of course, in American we don't elect weird nationalists like Front Nationale and UKIP



Ironically pretty much the only people who vote in these sort of EU elections are fascists who hate the EU.

25% of votes for EU council is like ten and a half voters.


That being said the Far-Right has been getting a bit bigger in recent years and it's sort of worrying that they're actually getting some votes in real election and not just in lovely failed states like Greece, Hungary, and Finland.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.


Sentient Data
Aug 31, 2011

My molecule scrambler ray will disintegrate your armor with one blow!


Funny thing is that those percentages seem perfectly sensible

sweeperbravo
May 18, 2012

AUNT GWEN'S COLD SHAPE (!)


Didn't Hillary's campaign have another instance of the Venn-diagram-that-says-the-opposite-of-what-it-probably-wanted-to-say?

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012



I donít think that says the opposite of what itís supposed to; itís just nonsensical.

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trapped mouse
May 25, 2008


Yeesh, yeah, every gun owner that she's referring to is an american gun owner, so that is supposed to be a circle within a circle.

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