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Ramos
Jul 3, 2012




kalstrams posted:

Americans are lazy.

We also need to hold onto the official dick length measuring unit, for cultural reasons.

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CharlieWhiskey
Aug 18, 2005

everything, all the time

this is the world

Ramos posted:

We also need to hold onto the official dick length measuring unit, for cultural reasons.

We'd be 2.54 times as long in centimeters though...

Fathis Munk
Feb 23, 2013

??? ?


Yeah, welcome to the world of double digit penis length for almost every one. Glorious cock socialism.

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

Rise and shine, master leprechaun.





Fathis Munk posted:

Yeah, welcome to the world of double digit penis length for almost every one. Glorious cock socialism.

It's okay, everyone would know that if it starts with a 1, it's tiny.

Snatch Duster
Feb 20, 2007

by FactsAreUseless


ikanreed posted:

It's okay, everyone would know that if it starts with a 1, it's tiny.
____/

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 14, 2013



ikanreed posted:

It's okay, everyone would know that if it starts with a 1, it's tiny.
5

Pity Party Animal
Jul 22, 2006


On the topic of bad wiki graphs(a map is a specific type of graph)

This is the key. I've made up the names of the colors.
States that allow direct initiated constitutional amendments
DARK BLUE States that allow legislatively-referred and direct initiative statutes, or legislatively-referred and direct initiated constitutional amendments or referendums.
NORMAL BLUE States that allow legislatively-referred and indirect initiative statutes, or legislatively-referred and direct initiated constitutional amendments or referendums.
SOFT BLUE? Illinois allows legislatively-referred initiative statutes, or legislatively-referred and direct initiated constitutional amendments or referendums.
DARK CYAN Mississippi allows legislatively-referred, indirect, and direct initiated constitutional amendments.
CYAN Florida allows legislatively-referred, and direct initiated constitutional amendments.

States and federal district that allow initiated statutes
GOLDENROD Massachusetts allows legislatively-referred and indirect initiative statutes, or legislatively-referred and indirect initiated constitutional amendments or referendums.
YELLOW States that allow legislatively-referred, indirect, and direct initiative statutes, or legislatively-referred initiated constitutional amendments or referendums.
WEAK BOISE STATE BRONCOS ORANGE Idaho allows direct initiative statutes, or legislatively-referred initiated constitutional amendments or referendums.
ORANGE States that allow indirect initiative statutes, or legislatively-referred initiated constitutional amendments or referendums.
OFFENSIVE DENVER BRONCOS ORANGE Washington D.C. allows direct initiative statutes.

States that allow referendums
GREEN States that allow legislatively-referred state statutes, or legislatively-referred initiated constitutional amendments or referendums.

States that allow legislative referral only
PINK Kentucky allows legislatively-referred state statutes and legislatively-referred initiated constitutional amendments.
RED States that allow legislatively-referred initiated constitutional amendments only.
source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Initi...and_referendums

TMI. I couldn't even tell D.C. was a different color without reading the key.

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 14, 2013



mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

"You are the best poster... do not let anyone say otherwise."


Here's something simple and minimalist that might be simultaneously the worst stacked bar char t I've ever seen.


It's supposed to be showing the minimum and average frames per second, look at it for a moment and let it sink in what they did.

I'm crosspostig it from this thread here: http://forums.somethingawful.com/sh...6#post454067634

The labels are correct but they just directly stacked the min and avg values so the total bar size is min+avg, so the only thing that still makes sense is that more is still better, but otherwise it's completely useless.

Of course it would've been perfectly readable too if the segment sizes were min and avg-min (while retaining the labels).



Oh look, suddenly you can tell at a glance that the stock Pentium has a higher average but lower minimum than the AMD processor.

Fathis Munk
Feb 23, 2013

??? ?


How can you be this bad at understanding how a stacked graph works.

CharlieWhiskey
Aug 18, 2005

everything, all the time

this is the world

Innumeracy

Stoatbringer
Sep 15, 2004

naw, you love it
you little ho-bot


I like that 23 is greater than 38.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

"You are the best poster... do not let anyone say otherwise."


That's because you're looking at it wrong. It's actually

17+23 = 40 > 38

So it makes sense! When I said the labels are correct, keep in mind that the labels are for the segments separately. Which would make sense if these were daily apple and pear sales, I guess.

Stoatbringer
Sep 15, 2004

naw, you love it
you little ho-bot


An infographic rather than a chart, but still pretty terrible.

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

Rise and shine, master leprechaun.





Stoatbringer posted:

An infographic rather than a chart, but still pretty terrible.


When I think "Cheat sheet", I think "unnecessary visual clutter"

Dienes
Nov 4, 2009

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College Slice

Stoatbringer posted:

An infographic rather than a chart, but still pretty terrible.


White text on bright yellow: known for readability.

mrkillboy
May 13, 2003

"Something witty."

Nostradingus
Jul 13, 2009



Wow, almost 1.5 million money units!

Carbon dioxide
Oct 9, 2012



Strudel Man
May 19, 2003
ROME DID NOT HAVE ROBOTS, FUCKWIT

Hm. Prosperity's going to be a little light this year.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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Strudel Man posted:

Hm. Prosperity's going to be a little light this year.

Yeah, but happiness overall looks to be well represented.

Ramos
Jul 3, 2012




The individual attributes that make up health are looking thicker though, I think I'm going to invest in them.

Tweet Me Balls
Apr 14, 2009




Is this some kind of squid-based fortune-telling chart?

Somfin
Oct 25, 2010



Nap Ghost

Tweet Me Balls posted:

Is this some kind of squid-based fortune-telling chart?

Paul the Octopus hasn't been wrong yet is occasionally wrong but I trust his judgment as a rule

quite stretched out
Feb 17, 2011

the chillest



the text is small enough that i skim-read 'luck' as 'gently caress'

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Probation
Can't post for 3 days!


Nap Ghost

Somfin posted:

Paul the Octopus hasn't been wrong yet is occasionally wrong is dead but I trust his judgment as a rule

foobardog
Apr 19, 2007

There, now I can tell when you're posting.

-- A friend

Fathis Munk posted:

I just never understood why people are so adamant about keeping feet and inches with all their weird idiosyncrasies instead of transitioning to metres like almost all of the rest of the world. Hell even England is transitioning.

I think a lot of it is that the main push for metric in the United States happened under Carter, who was a very unpopular and weak president, and had most of his measures severely pushed back by Reagan, who was a popular president and strong president.

At this point, it's mainly pigheaded American Exceptionalism

Nuclear Pogostick
Apr 9, 2007

Bouncing towards victory


I wouldn't ascribe it entirely to that, it's just a lot of stuff we use is imperial and would have to be replaced over a long, expensive period of time. Everything from screws to road signage would need to be replaced, not to mention all sorts of industrial machinery that's designed to work in inches. Don't get me wrong, I think metric is vastly superior, but it's not just a case of LOL AMERICANS DUMB.

princecoo
Sep 3, 2009


Nuclear Pogostick posted:

I wouldn't ascribe it entirely to that, it's just a lot of stuff we use is imperial and would have to be replaced over a long, expensive period of time. Everything from screws to road signage would need to be replaced, not to mention all sorts of industrial machinery that's designed to work in inches. Don't get me wrong, I think metric is vastly superior, but it's not just a case of LOL AMERICANS DUMB.

Everyone else managed to do it just fine.

Wapole Languray
Jul 4, 2012



There's also the fact that we don't give a poo poo.

Chocolate Teapot
May 8, 2009


Wapole Languray posted:

There's also the fact that we don't give a poo poo.

quote:

However, on September 23, 1999, communication with the spacecraft was lost as the spacecraft went into orbital insertion, due to ground-based computer software which produced output in non-SIunits of pound-seconds (lbf s) instead of the metric units of newton-seconds (N s) specified in the contract between NASA and Lockheed. The spacecraft encountered Mars on a trajectory that brought it too close to the planet, causing it to pass through the upper atmosphere and disintegrate.

Looks like people do give a poo poo, who'd have thunk it.

Zesty
Jan 17, 2012



It's a difficult change for a superpower with 320 million people who have been using imperial measurements for hundreds of years.

While it would be nice if we could transition overnight, a lot of issues like that could also be solved more easily by making sure conversions are being made when necessary.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

I'm the babyliberal, gotta love me!


Met posted:

It's a difficult change for a superpower with 320 million people who have been using imperial measurements for hundreds of years.

While it would be nice if we could transition overnight, a lot of issues like that could also be solved more easily by making sure conversions are being made when necessary.

Pretty much every other country in the world has done this, though, and they did not have the advantage of working under a federal government joining them together. I'm sure there's a significant cost for this obstinacy, whether it is in imports/exports or in retraining engineers. Quantified to buttress an argument for change, along with some political will, and it's not insurmountable.

Judge Schnoopy
Nov 2, 2005

dont even TRY it, pal

Absurd Alhazred posted:

Pretty much every other country in the world has done this, though, and they did not have the advantage of working under a federal government joining them together. I'm sure there's a significant cost for this obstinacy, whether it is in imports/exports or in retraining engineers. Quantified to buttress an argument for change, along with some political will, and it's not insurmountable.

Lol look at this guy he thinks the US government can actually get things done without devolving into a bipolar debate between reasoning with the rest of the world and 'Murica.

Zesty
Jan 17, 2012



Absurd Alhazred posted:

Pretty much every other country in the world has done this, though, and they did not have the advantage of working under a federal government joining them together. I'm sure there's a significant cost for this obstinacy, whether it is in imports/exports or in retraining engineers. Quantified to buttress an argument for change, along with some political will, and it's not insurmountable.

"Pretty much every other country in the world" isn't the best country in the world.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

I'm the babyliberal, gotta love me!


Judge Schnoopy posted:

Lol look at this guy he thinks the US government can actually get things done without devolving into a bipolar debate between reasoning with the rest of the world and 'Murica.

That has to do neither with the number of people nor with the amount of time that people have been using the old measurement system, though, which were the original poster's objections. Deadlock in Congress is a bigger problem than units, but it's a different issue, which I also think is not insurmountable, as long as it's extricated from partisanship. Probably a bad idea to make this a Presidential initiative, but otherwise, compare the benefits of change with the cost of one-time labeling/signage change and retraining of old workforce, space it out over a sufficient amount of years until the math works and it doesn't scare the oldies too much, and it's doable, in my opinion.

Sentient Data
Aug 31, 2011

My molecule scrambler ray will disintegrate your armor with one blow!


Let's look at it another way.

First, the US is enormous and very isolated compared to other countries - visiting another country is seen as a major once-in-a-lifetime event, and one that a huge number of adults either will never be able to afford or have no real interest I doing (a big chunk of the population doesn't even have a valid passport). There's no communication issue with using a different unit simple because those units are literally never encountered alone in the average person's life

Second, all the important industries already use metric. Sure there's some mishaps about unit conversions not happening more than a decade ago, but the huge majority of scientists and doctors and even a lot of commercial bakers are already using metric on their own

Third, US measurements are already good enough for what "casual" people do. Temperatures make sense to everyone, feet to miles don't matter because it's such a huge difference of scale (you either talk about one or the other, and large distances are usually measured in driving time or blocks/lights rather than miles anyway), and recipes are all spelled out in exactly what's needed - anyone that cares enough about a kitchen to change a recipe either doesn't follow it exactly in the first place, has a cheat sheet showing all kinds of conversions (and ingredient substitutions), or already works in grams anyway

What it amounts to is the same as suddenly trying to get the entire EU to switch from metric to, say, 11th century French measurement units. But only the casual people, since the scientists are already working in the correct units. Sure, the new scale is internally consistent and complete, but the casual people see no problem with the current units. On top of that, there's hundreds of millions (billions after labor?) of dollars that need to be spent recreating road signs, packaging, educational materials, and literally every single zoning/property law for literally hundreds of different governments which each have their own nuances (federal, all states/territories, all counties, and all incorporated towns all have their own laws, and most have their own constitutions that require big vote counts for any changes)

Basically, yes, the US is in the wrong as far as standards go, but anyone in a life or death situation already uses the proper in units, and anyone who isn't couldn't possibly give less of a gently caress about it

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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Also our baking measurements are better anyways since it doesn't have to be standardized and just rely on the correct proportions of ingredients and you wind up with the correct end product.

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.



Yam Slacker

Sentient Data posted:

Many reasons

But despite all that, the metric conversion in America is already partway done. Even the "casuals" are all using metric at least part-time. You'll need metric wrenches to work on your car. You buy soda in 2-liter bottles. In gym class you run the 100-meter dash. Drug users specify quantity in metric, from microgram to kilo, depending on the drug.

Now that I'm thinking of it, I wonder how many people don't even know that their 2-liter bottles are in metric...

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mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

"You are the best poster... do not let anyone say otherwise."


Solice Kirsk posted:

Also our baking measurements are better anyways since it doesn't have to be standardized and just rely on the correct proportions of ingredients and you wind up with the correct end product.

Cups and spoons are bullshit for baking though, it really has to be by mass to get any sort of decent repeatability and consistency.

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