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Creature posted:It's interesting that quite a few brilliant artists/bands from the 1960s and 70s hit their creative lows during the 80s. Was it due to the fact that so many of them had been going for 10/15/20 years by that point, and it was simply inevitable that they'd run out of steam eventually? Or was it something about that time period itself? Drugs, divorce, rehab, two decades of bad financial decisions, running out of ideas but still needing money, bad contracts that need to be honored even though you don't have any good ideas and you can half rear end a record and it will still sell a little and give you a reason to tour.
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This isn't news but Hallo Spaceboy still rules, as does the video for it. The visuals are fitting for the chaotic nature of the song. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjYHTCR0qBk
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Jan 12, 2016 23:35
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:This isn't news but Hallo Spaceboy still rules, as does the video for it. The visuals are fitting for the chaotic nature of the song. I really love that song (obviously) and I like Pet Shop Boys but I don't really like this mix of it. Way prefer the album version, personally.
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Jan 12, 2016 23:43
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I think Never Let Me Down has one really fantastic song on it, and that's Time Will Crawl. Bowie thought so as well and included it on the iSelect compilation in a drastically remixed version. I know that many people prefer it to the NLMD version because it's a whole lot less 80s in its sound, but personally I actually think the reverb and bombastic approach added to the atmosphere of the original version.hallo spacedog posted:I really love that song (obviously) and I like Pet Shop Boys but I don't really like this mix of it. Way prefer the album version, personally. I kinda agree. I loooooove Pet Shop Boys, but they're better songwriters than producers/remixers. I still listen to the single version from time to time, and it's kinda impressive that they managed to make a pop song out of the song, which in its album version is one of the most aggressive things in Bowie's catalogue. It also payed off commercially. Peaking at position 12 in the UK was pretty good at that point in his career. DominoDancing fucked around with this message at 00:02 on Jan 13, 2016 |
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Jan 12, 2016 23:45
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At the Bowie exhibit at the VA museum last year there was a section on 1.Outside which had some quote from Bowie saying that his basic idea for Hello Spaceboy was "if Jim Morrison made industrial music"
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Jan 12, 2016 23:47
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Oh poo poo, I had no idea I even posted an alternate mix. I was watching the video on mute while listening to the song in iTunes. Here's the album version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHSe4N1tRQU e: Also, another thing I may be imagining, but the way Trent Reznor sings "everything" in the NIN song Everything sounds just like Bowie singing "I am with name" in Ramona A. Stone. Could be coincidence, but Trent was friends with Bowie so it might not be. Rageaholic fucked around with this message at 00:04 on Jan 13, 2016 |
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Jan 13, 2016 00:00
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Hey, Loving the Alien is a great fuckin' track. And someone here said once not to skip over Buddha of Suburbia (which I always had because it's technically a soundtrack). Let me second that, because it really is Bowie beginning to find his 90s sound.
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DominoDancing posted:I think Never Let Me Down has one really fantastic song on it, and that's Time Will Crawl. Bowie thought so as well and included it on the iSelect compilation in a drastically remixed version. I know that many people prefer it to the NLMD version because it's a whole lot less 80s in its sound, but personally I actually think the reverb and bombastic approach added to the atmosphere of the original version. Totally agree with this. It's really lyrically evocative and completely out of place with the rest of this album. I'm with you though that I kinda prefer the original album version. Good Soldier Svejk posted:Hey, Loving the Alien is a great fuckin' track. It honestly is, check out the A Reality Tour version if you haven't already. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8cENJO39Rs
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Tonight should have been an EP, as it was a little light and the filler is obvious and plentiful. Still, Blue Jean was kind of an event, as long form music videos were fairly rare on MTV at the time. Only a handful of artists had the juice to get them played. Loving The Alien borrowing from Laurie Anderson's O Superman was a masterstroke; I don't know if he ever acknowledged it, but he was always pretty forthcoming about citing influences. NMLD is where I part ways with most critics. It was bright, shrill, and fatiguing, but it was of its time and I'm sure that clouds my objectivity. It must, because I have no problems with Too Dizzy, which he pulled from future pressings either due to a songwriting credit or because he was embarrassed by it, depending on who you believe. I do hope some of these mid-tier efforts benefit from the super deluxo treatments and "vault finds" that are sure to come. This is an artist whose out/alternate takes would actually be interesting.
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Jan 13, 2016 01:33
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Anybody here watched Bowie's 50th Birthday Concert at MSG? I don't know if it was ever released properly, but I ended up with a bootleg DVD of it when I was first getting into his later stuff, and it's a hell of a lot of fun. He's playing with Reeve Gabrels, G.A. Dorsey, and that whole bunch, and it's pretty interesting to hear the Outside aesthetic applied to his other material. Some of the visuals and special effects are loving nuts, too; "Voyeur of Utter Destruction" has a 30 foot puppet of Bowie wigging out in the background. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQ9Ha57S5mQ Honestly, the whole concert is worth watching if you can get past some of the more embarrassing guest appearances (get out of here, Billy Corgan  ). And while I'm not a fan of the Foo Fighters, the version of Spaceboy they did is maybe my favorite of all the mixes. Their percussion really beefs the song up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrTQLnOg4Z4
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Wampa Stompa posted:Anybody here watched Bowie's 50th Birthday Concert at MSG? I don't know if it was ever released properly, but I ended up with a bootleg DVD of it when I was first getting into his later stuff, and it's a hell of a lot of fun. He's playing with Reeve Gabrels, G.A. Dorsey, and that whole bunch, and it's pretty interesting to hear the Outside aesthetic applied to his other material. Some of the visuals and special effects are loving nuts, too; "Voyeur of Utter Destruction" has a 30 foot puppet of Bowie wigging out in the background. You have just given me a great gift. Between this and learning that the Outside demos ever leaked I am... well, not happy but feeling much better at the knowledge that there is still plenty out there for me to discover. Also Gail Dorsey is a fuckin' awesome bass player and everyone should listen to her sing "Under Pressure" with Bowie because it's frighteningly good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWtSyorjXv4 Good Soldier Svejk fucked around with this message at 02:06 on Jan 13, 2016 |
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Jan 13, 2016 01:58
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Anybody see him on SNL in 97ish playing Scary Monsters? I am sure it's on youtube, but I just remember being floored by how tight the band was.
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Jan 13, 2016 02:24
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Does anyone else read "5.15 Angels Have Gone" as a nod to Quadrophenia? Goddamn I love Heathen. RIP Bowie.
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:
I got to see A Reality Tour twice, so I experienced this twice and it was really loving incredible.
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Jan 13, 2016 05:27
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It's hard to find time to listen to so much good Bowie. I have listened to everything he's done, but I do tend to go back to the same albums over and over while neglecting a few of his newer albums. Hours and beyond get less play than the earlier stuff. I have to say that it is tough to decide what you'd consider a better library of work: his early stuff through Let's Dance or Tonight through Blackstar. Blackstar has some really powerful songs on it, and it ranks pretty highly. It's circumstances certainly add to the impact of it.
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Listening to Earthling now and I'd definitely consider this his most aggressive album, but it's awesome. He managed to take genres like drum and bass and industrial, things that seem like they should be out of his wheelhouse, and make them work for him. It's easy to see how an artist like Trent Reznor was influenced by Bowie and then influenced Bowie right back. e: Am I a bad person if Earthling is legitimately one of my favorite Bowie albums? Rageaholic fucked around with this message at 16:00 on Jan 13, 2016 |
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I love Earthling. There is an acoustic performance of Dead Man Walking that drives home the point that Bowie wrote great songs regardless of style.
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Jan 13, 2016 16:05
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I'm really happy I got to listen to and evaluate Blackstar before he died, and now after. The album was already powerful and haunting, but now it has a whole new meaning. I really do think it's one of his best.
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Marv Hushman posted:Loving The Alien borrowing from Laurie Anderson's O Superman was a masterstroke; I don't know if he ever acknowledged it, but he was always pretty forthcoming about citing influences. I don't know if he ever did so outright, but I do know that he and Gail would cover O Superman in concert fairly often in the late 90s. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZwjPYplO88
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GonSmithe posted:I'm really happy I got to listen to and evaluate Blackstar before he died, and now after. The album was already powerful and haunting, but now it has a whole new meaning. It is.
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Jan 13, 2016 16:20
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The Next is criminally underrated and was kinda brushed over when it came out a few years ago. That album rules
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Jan 13, 2016 16:26
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Considering which albums were his best and worst, I think The Man Who Sold the World is not very good and squeaks by on the strength of the title track. Thoughts?
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Halloween Jack posted:Considering which albums were his best and worst, I think The Man Who Sold the World is not very good and squeaks by on the strength of the title track. Thoughts? Width of a Circle is spectacular and the rest is good too.
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Jan 13, 2016 16:31
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Halloween Jack posted:Considering which albums were his best and worst, I think The Man Who Sold the World is not very good and squeaks by on the strength of the title track. Thoughts?
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Jan 13, 2016 16:35
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Jesus, I'm listening to Hours now and realizing that if Porcupine Tree lost their prog sensibilities, they'd essentially be a Bowie cover band 
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Jan 13, 2016 16:49
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As a result of everyone out-Bowieing each other recognizing the genius of such-and-such underrated album for several pages, I'm going to go ahead and declare Ziggy Stardust as criminally underrated. Has anyone even heard of this album? I think it was pretty great.
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Jan 13, 2016 16:53
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davebo posted:As a result of everyone out-Bowieing each other recognizing the genius of such-and-such underrated album for several pages, I'm going to go ahead and declare Ziggy Stardust as criminally underrated. Has anyone even heard of this album? I think it was pretty great. Please stop making things up
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Halloween Jack posted:Considering which albums were his best and worst, I think The Man Who Sold the World is not very good and squeaks by on the strength of the title track. Thoughts? I'm kind of there with you. I've been listening to his stuff chronologically since he died and so far this is the album with the fewest tracks I really love on it.
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Jan 13, 2016 19:26
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Having just listened to Reality for the first time, am I wrong for preferring the Lohner/Bowie/Fruiscante/Keenan version of Bring Me The Disco King? The original is still great and has its own merits, but the brooding music of the Lohner mix fits the vocal better IMO.
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Am I going crazy from overexposure to Bowie or does The Next Day legitimately have some of his best songs? Maybe not his most experimental, but some of his tightest, most concise pop-rock songs of his career.
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Halloween Jack posted:Considering which albums were his best and worst, I think The Man Who Sold the World is not very good and squeaks by on the strength of the title track. Thoughts? I think Side A is fantastic, and that the title track is the only good song on Side B, but the material on the front half is so good I don't mind. Running Gun Blues is probably the worst song he ever wrote and The Supermen is absolutely ridiculous. She Shook Me Cold is alright, I guess.
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Jan 13, 2016 20:48
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il_cornuto posted:Having just listened to Reality for the first time, am I wrong for preferring the Lohner/Bowie/Fruiscante/Keenan version of Bring Me The Disco King? The original is still great and has its own merits, but the brooding music of the Lohner mix fits the vocal better IMO. IMO the original is more brooding, the Lohner mix is a little too dramatic and over-produced. not bad, but I prefer the original
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I'm a genuine fan of the Tin Machine albums and have been since they were released. I can't listen to the two preceding solo albums but the TM albums have some really good tracks even if I don't like them all the way through.
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:Am I going crazy from overexposure to Bowie or does The Next Day legitimately have some of his best songs? I loved it. I'd put it in my top 10 Bowie albums, if not top 5.
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Woah, I don't think I ever noticed those synth stabs in Blackstar before. This is my first time listening to it on headphones, so maybe that's why. Those are gnarly.
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Jan 13, 2016 21:36
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The Man Who Sold the World is a good album. All the Madmen, Black Country Rock, Running Gun Blues, She Shook Me Cold and the title track are all great songs imo.
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Jan 13, 2016 22:06
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I've listened to ★ about 10-15 times now, and I have to say that it ranks amongst his best albums.
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I'm so glad I'm not the only one who thinks Glass Spider is interesting. And Black Country Rock is one of the few TMWSTW songs I keep coming back to aside from the title track and Width of a Circle.
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davebo posted:As a result of everyone out-Bowieing each other recognizing the genius of such-and-such underrated album for several pages, I'm going to go ahead and declare Ziggy Stardust as criminally underrated. Has anyone even heard of this album? I think it was pretty great. Yeah, I too think it's pretty great. Like, I want to love his other albums as much as I love Ziggy, but I just can't. It's so good. His other albums are mostly pretty good too.
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