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Well a whole day and it's still disturbingly painful. It's not fair to have celebrities/artists matter this much. Good Soldier Svejk fucked around with this message at 03:24 on Jan 12, 2016 |
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Conan pays tribute to all the times David Bowie was on his show 
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Jan 12, 2016 03:25
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Some grainy but cool footage of Bowie when he touched down here in Winnipeg, 1983. $23 CAD a ticket - I loving wish! At the end they were allowed to shoot footage of his private plane and also 2 fans who snuck past airport security and got to meet him! That would never happen again for obvious reasons. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOBeUr_eVFI
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Jan 12, 2016 03:45
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Rock and Roll Suicide is the one song that affects me more, emotionally, than any other for reasons I don't want to get into. Bowie is the one artist that I loved unconditionally from age four when my Dad would play his music to now. He has always been on my short list of people I wished I could meet. This has been a really, really lovely weekend.
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Jan 12, 2016 03:53
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That part 3 minutes in, I loving lost it. What a terrible loss. Listened to lots of 80s Bowie in my early twenties.
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Jan 12, 2016 04:16
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Sharks Eat Bear posted:this is the song that made my 14 year old self dig deeper into post-Ziggy bowie, and indirectly led me to all sorts of amazing music. still one of my favorites not that anyone cares but here's a little reflection on this because gently caress it bowie was amazing and i just want to listen to and think about him tonight my sister is about 7 years older than me and was pretty hip when she was in HS and college. she liked a lot of great indie/alternative/underground music, spanning from late 60s era stuff to more "modern" (at the time i.e. mid to late 90s) stuff. when i was 12-13 years old i started realizing that there was a world of music outside of the Billboard Top 40 and my parents' favorite Oldies station, and my sister became an invaluable resource one of, if not THE, first albums she showed me was ziggy stardust. other of the bands she showed me early on were the VU and television. it sounds dramatic, but being turned onto bowie and his ilk was a definitive moment in my life. music was the great passion and obsession of my adolescence, and digging deeper into bowie was a catalyst to discovering so much more amazing music. bowie is as close to an "essence" of my music taste as you can get, and from reading the reactions in this thread and elsewhere i know i'm not the only one that feels this way. i'm bummed that he's gone, and that it was so unexpected (for me) -- but to be honest any real sadness is totally overwhelmed by just awe at the strength of his body of work and the extraordinary level of quality he was able to maintain right up until the end, without ever becoming repetitive, overly nostalgic or irrelevant. and even though i've been listening to his music pretty consistently for 15 years, i'd never really gotten into his albums from the 00s. now that i'm listening to them, i have no idea why it took me this long, because they're pretty fuckin rad too. i honestly can't think of any musician or group that has had a career trajectory quite like his, in terms of the combination of longevity and stylistic variety
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Jan 12, 2016 04:20
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Eifert Posting posted:Rock and Roll Suicide is the one song that affects me more, emotionally, than any other for reasons I don't want to get into. Bowie is the one artist that I loved unconditionally from age four when my Dad would play his music to now. He has always been on my short list of people I wished I could meet. Are you me? Still, I think the song that affects me most is Lady Stardust. First, it's an awesome song, and secondly, my Dad told me when I was really young that originally he heard "people stared at the mink upon his face" and thinking about that still makes me laugh. I tried it out earlier, and it turns out I have much better speakers now that when I first listened to Ziggy Stardust, because that first time I managed to blow the speakers.
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Jan 12, 2016 04:58
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Eifert Posting posted:Rock and Roll Suicide is the one song that affects me more, emotionally, than any other for reasons I don't want to get into. Bowie is the one artist that I loved unconditionally from age four when my Dad would play his music to now. He has always been on my short list of people I wished I could meet. Yeah seriously. First Jeremy Hill and now this.
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Jan 12, 2016 05:44
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A bit rushed but I did get a decent take of Moonage Daydream done tonight. I'm still very much an amateur behind the kit, but this song is one of my old favorites from Rock Band and it's even more fun on a real drumset: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfYrW8hApVs I'm not even that big of a Bowie fan, I don't feel as strongly about him as a lot of other posters obviously do but I really respect him as an artist. By all accounts the dude was a pro the whole way through. TubeStank posted:I'm gonna kill god if he takes Springsteen or Byrne Reverend Sub-Zero posted:Has anyone checked on Dylan recently? Nick Cave and Tom Waits better take it reeeeal easy in 2016, I can't take much more of this poo poo <  >
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Jan 12, 2016 05:55
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It's almost midnight. Where the gently caress did Monday go? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDCk1X2S00A Takes No Damage posted:A bit rushed but I did get a decent take of Moonage Daydream done tonight. I'm still very much an amateur behind the kit, but this song is one of my old favorites from Rock Band and it's even more fun on a real drumset: 
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Jan 12, 2016 05:59
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Takes No Damage posted:A bit rushed but I did get a decent take of Moonage Daydream done tonight. I'm still very much an amateur behind the kit, but this song is one of my old favorites from Rock Band and it's even more fun on a real drumset: Thank you. It's really poignant to see his music kept alive.
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Jan 12, 2016 06:04
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I just can't get over this. Blackstar was a fantastic album before his death, but now understanding the meaning behind it all... It's transcendental. Definitely up there with his greatest work. Going to be listening to his music all week. There is so much that I haven't discovered yet, having mainly stuck with Ziggy Stardust and Hunky Dory for a quick fix over the years. I've never been so moved by the passing of an artist like this before. He was just a phenomenal talent, and I'll never forget the moment when my girlfriend broke the news to me.
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Jan 12, 2016 08:05
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Cpt. Spring Types posted:I just can't get over this. Blackstar was a fantastic album before his death, but now understanding the meaning behind it all... It's transcendental. Definitely up there with his greatest work. Wait till you get to Low.
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Jan 12, 2016 08:09
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Listening to his albums chronologically, it's rather astounding how genre-fluid he was. Like I'm listening to Heroes now and it transitions from flawlessly-polished pop-rock into ambient music in the same album. Eno produced this one, right? He had to. That wouldn't surprise me at all.
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Jan 12, 2016 16:15
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"We are the goon squad and we're coming to town. Beep beep." David Bowie, honorary goon, 1947-2016 The British newspapers are publishing tribute issues, pages of photos, interviews, quotes etc. The Independent published perhaps the most inaccurate obituary I have ever read. Shame on you, Indie! 
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Jan 12, 2016 16:19
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TP4WoA7rBoU This loving song came out nearly 40 years ago 
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Jan 12, 2016 16:32
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Low is my personal favorite, it's amazing. The Eno ambient songs really work for me.
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Jan 12, 2016 16:33
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Yes, Low, heroes, and Lodger comprise the "Berlin Trilogy" produced by Eno, though they weren't recorded totally in Berlin. If you like those and you haven't heard Eno's solo output from the 70s, you will probably really enjoy Here Come the Warm Jets, Taking Tiger Mountain, Another Green World, and Before and After Science. His ambient work is not really my thing, but those four albums, wow. It's things like this that keep reminding me that Bowie is the nexus of my musical tastes. He was the gateway to everything from Motown to Yellow Magic Orchestra to Thomas Bangalter to Philip Glass to... Leon Einstein posted:I see your point now. Many of his "characters" were actually just Bowie doing what he found exciting at the time. Anyway, in Bowie's case, for a look at the other end of the spectrum, take the Serious Moonlight tour--his fashion and theatricality on stage were essential to it, and tour was arguably as important as the album itself (which you could also say about Ziggy). Yet I don't see many attempts to name the Serious Moonlight Guy, only because there aren't any lyrics on Let's Dance that could be identified as the name of a character. Apropos of nothing, Black Tie White Noise is underrated, even if the title track sounds a little dated now.
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Jan 12, 2016 16:40
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TP4WoA7rBoU Lodger is a very underrated album and it's probably due in large part to being so poorly produced. It's bookended by Heroes and Scary Monsters, both of which still sound excellent today/after a remaster (especially Scary Monsters), while there's just a bit of a muffling of sorts that sits on the Lodger tracks. It's really a shame because it's the second best of the three Berlin albums behind Low, IMO.
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Jan 12, 2016 16:43
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I listened to 9 Bowie albums I'd never heard yesterday, which was a wild experience. I think over the course of the week I'll listen to the 9 I already knew and loved. Anyway, here's a copy and paste from what I put on Facebook. I liked music a lot in high school, as I was sure to let people know. Unfortunately, I was also a loving idiot. You could tell as much because I didn’t listen to David Bowie. It’s not that I disliked him--I actually dug most of the songs I heard, and I listened to tons of classic rock--but I had some bizarre hang-up about solo artists vs. bands, where I thought the contributions of the group were inherently more interesting than the ideas of one person. Never mind that many “bands” are that in name only, and many solo artists are reliant upon particular supporting musicians (Neil Young and Bruce Springsteen were also victims of this thought process, with or without Crazy Horse/The E Street Band, and I’ll be intolerable when their lives come to an end). At some point in college (I think between freshman and sophomore year) I finally sat and listened to The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders From Mars as part of a summer phase where I would kill time by listening to consensus classic albums that I had missed. I knew and loved the hits (Moonage Daydream, Ziggy Stardust and Suffragette City), but I was just as blown away by Five Years, Rock and Roll Suicide and everything else. Hunky Dory came soon after, and kicked my rear end again. This is when I realized how stupid I was for ignoring the guy when I was starting to get into music. People like to talk about Bowie’s chameleonic career moves and various personas, but the only reason any of that matters is because he was a goddamn amazing musician. Just look at a song like “Changes.” On the surface it’s just a catchy pop-rock tune, but when you analyze it, even with rudimentary knowledge of music, it’s clear how amazing that song really is. The chord changes in the intro are so unexpected, so uniquely Bowieish that it takes my breath away every time. His pop sensibilities are why I’ll always prefer his glam rock era, but he still had the ability to pump out amazing songs in any style. Is it even possible for someone to write four songs as wildly different but all incredible as Space Oddity, Heroes, Let’s Dance and The Hearts Filthy Lesson? (confession: I am listening to 1. Outside, his bizarre 1995 pseudo-industrial concept album with Brian Eno right now, so maybe that last song won’t stick as much, but it is really good!). And that’s without getting into the 72-hour-old Blackstar, which is fantastic. I’ve been listening to David Bowie almost non-stop since 7 this morning, about a half hour after I learned that he had passed. Other than the hour-long commute to work, it’s exclusively been albums I didn’t already know (which is how I’ve arrived at 1. Outside), and almost every second has been awesome. Nobody has more songs that make you think “how the gently caress did he come up with that?” Over the course of the day I’ve heard at least 20 songs that could make a budding songwriter give up because they’ll never reach that quality. Some are all him, some are for other people (All the Young Dudes), some are collaborations (Under Pressure), but they’re all incredible. Moreover, it’s all so fresh. I love Lemmy, but if I had decided after his death to listen to Motorhead all day, even if I’d never heard it before, I would have burned out by album number three. Burning out on David Bowie is impossible, even if you’re listening to failed experiments. That’s pretty much my whole ramble. Bowie’s greatness is self-evident, and you can see just how widespread his influence is by the variety of people who are distraught over his passing, from pop stars to extreme metal bands, from music theory geeks to the instrumentally challenged. And you can tell the sentiment is genuine, because everyone has a different song that they feel best represents him. Bowie is eternal.
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Jan 12, 2016 16:47
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I feel like Earthling doesn't get the credit it deserves. The jungle/drum and bass loops are all actual drumming and not him picking out sampled drum loops. There are many strong songs on it. It's not my favorite album by him, but I don't think it's judged fairly as many thought he was jumping onto a trend at the time.
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Jan 12, 2016 17:07
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Leon Einstein posted:I feel like Earthling doesn't get the credit it deserves. The jungle/drum and bass loops are all actual drumming and not him picking out sampled drum loops. There are many strong songs on it. It's not my favorite album by him, but I don't think it's judged fairly as many thought he was jumping onto a trend at the time.
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Jan 12, 2016 17:18
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Halloween Jack posted:Yes, Low, heroes, and Lodger comprise the "Berlin Trilogy" produced by Eno, though they weren't recorded totally in Berlin. If you like those and you haven't heard Eno's solo output from the 70s, you will probably really enjoy Here Come the Warm Jets, Taking Tiger Mountain, Another Green World, and Before and After Science. His ambient work is not really my thing, but those four albums, wow. No no no, sorry, Eno was involved with the trilogy but Tony Visconti is the official producer on those three albums. Eno barely stayed a week at the beginning and the left as soon as his parts are done.
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Jan 12, 2016 17:26
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While certainly not my favorite Bowie work, I always had a special affection for Tin Machine's "If There is Something" because I remember him playing it on SNL when Macaulay Culkin hosted in '91. I was young and the episode had a bunch of recurring characters I liked. Hell I don't know that I even realized David Bowie was the singer until a few years later (or that it was a cover) if they were only introduced as Tin Machine. I know I still have it on VHS somewhere but don't see it online. If anyone happens to have it somewhere I'd love a link, in the meantime here's a different live performance of it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhjvWHeSWzI
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Jan 12, 2016 17:26
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Noise Machine posted:No no no, sorry, Eno was involved with the trilogy but Tony Visconti is the official producer on those three albums. Eno barely stayed a week at the beginning and the left as soon as his parts are done. In my occasional rotation of "go-to" Bowie albums, Lodger and Scary Monsters (and Super Creeps) have been fighting for first place for well over a year now.
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Jan 12, 2016 17:41
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Noise Machine posted:No no no, sorry, Eno was involved with the trilogy but Tony Visconti is the official producer on those three albums. Eno barely stayed a week at the beginning and the left as soon as his parts are done.
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Jan 12, 2016 17:45
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davebo posted:While certainly not my favorite Bowie work, I always had a special affection for Tin Machine's "If There is Something" because I remember him playing it on SNL when Macaulay Culkin hosted in '91. I was young and the episode had a bunch of recurring characters I liked. Hell I don't know that I even realized David Bowie was the singer until a few years later if they were only introduced as Tin Machine. I know I still have it on VHS somewhere but don't see it online. If anyone happens to have it somewhere I'd love a link, in the meantime here's a different live performance of it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhjvWHeSWzI I agree! Seeing that episode was one of my first memories seeing him perform and I was blown away by his presence. I started then buying all the records/cassettes/CDs of Bowie I could find at garage sales for the next few years. I have said this a handful of times on these forums, but while Tin Machine is no where near my favorite of his output, they get dog piled on way more than deserved. I can find one thing to like about even the worst of his output usually and there's so much more quality on the TM albums than on some of his worse solo albums. More than a handful of the songs are in my opinion very excellent too. Personally, Shopping for Girls, Amlapura and Goodbye Mr. Ed are standouts for me. Also, Tin Machine directly set the stage for his work in 1. Outside: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_x6JzOIRCA I won't claim it to be his very best but I think people still reject it mainly on principal or some knee-jerk reaction a lot of times. hallo spacedog fucked around with this message at 17:48 on Jan 12, 2016 |
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Jan 12, 2016 17:46
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Josef K. Sourdust posted:"We are the goon squad and we're coming to town. Beep beep."
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Jan 12, 2016 17:50
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One song that I always overlooked until recently is Sweet Thing/Candidate/Sweet Thing (Reprise). It's really unlike anything else he was doing around the time, and honestly some of the emotional high notes are unparalleled for me, especially going down the gauntlet from "Well I guess we must be looking for a different kind" to "jump in the river holding hands" and that killer sax going back into Sweet Thing (Reprise) Bowie has always struck me because of his ability to conjure worlds of meaning with a simple unexplained lyric. "I'll make you a deal, like any other candidate," and "The return of the Thin White Duke," hint at a larger canon that he'll never expound upon, but you buy into it without question. Sure, the former was a product of the cut-up technique, but the point still stands. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCqsJzBwjNQ
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Jan 12, 2016 18:12
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Takes No Damage posted:A bit rushed but I did get a decent take of Moonage Daydream done tonight. I'm still very much an amateur behind the kit, but this song is one of my old favorites from Rock Band and it's even more fun on a real drumset: Nice! The drum part from Soul Love is one of my favorites (actually the whole song is, but the drums are great on their own), and is also a ton of fun to play.
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Jan 12, 2016 19:23
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I forget who said it, if it was in here or another thread, but whoever said his 80s albums kind of suck was actually right. Not all of his 80s albums, mind you, but Tonight and Never Let Me Down specifically. I'm a little over halfway through NLMD in my chronological journey through his discography and it seems like with these last couple albums, he kinda stagnated and just blended in with what other 80s pop artists were doing at the time, losing any unique qualities/creativity that would make them sound like Bowie albums. Although he blended into a musical landscape that he helped create with the much better albums he created years beforehand, so it's a weird situation.
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Jan 12, 2016 21:25
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He did once say that he put out Tonight "to keep my hand in" because he'd just gained a huge mainstream audience from the success of Let's Dance. He didn't really have new ideas, and it shows quite badly. IMO Tonight had "Blue Jean" and "Loving the Alien" and that's it, and by Bowie's standards they're both pretty forgettable. I may go back and give Never Let Me Down another listen, but nothing about it sticks with me except "Glass Spider," which comes across as a Diamond Dogs throwback.
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Jan 12, 2016 21:31
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Halloween Jack posted:He did once say that he put out Tonight "to keep my hand in" because he'd just gained a huge mainstream audience from the success of Let's Dance. He didn't really have new ideas, and it shows quite badly. IMO Tonight had "Blue Jean" and "Loving the Alien" and that's it, and by Bowie's standards they're both pretty forgettable. I may go back and give Never Let Me Down another listen, but nothing about it sticks with me except "Glass Spider," which comes across as a Diamond Dogs throwback. Never let me down stinks. Glass Spider's the only song worth listening to and it's not that good.
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Jan 12, 2016 21:35
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Halloween Jack posted:He did once say that he put out Tonight "to keep my hand in" because he'd just gained a huge mainstream audience from the success of Let's Dance. He didn't really have new ideas, and it shows quite badly. IMO Tonight had "Blue Jean" and "Loving the Alien" and that's it, and by Bowie's standards they're both pretty forgettable. I may go back and give Never Let Me Down another listen, but nothing about it sticks with me except "Glass Spider," which comes across as a Diamond Dogs throwback.
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Jan 12, 2016 21:36
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The production is godawful. That time period has the worst production of any era imho.
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Jan 12, 2016 21:40
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It's interesting that quite a few brilliant artists/bands from the 1960s and 70s hit their creative lows during the 80s. Was it due to the fact that so many of them had been going for 10/15/20 years by that point, and it was simply inevitable that they'd run out of steam eventually? Or was it something about that time period itself?
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Jan 12, 2016 21:53
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...and from the very beginning of Black Tie White Noise, there's a dramatic improvement in quality. This album feels like he's back to being weird, unique Bowie again. Huh. I guess the mid-late 80s were just a slump for him.
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Jan 12, 2016 21:58
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I hope this causes a bunch of re-evaluation, because I still feel like the only person who likes Black Tie White Noise.
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Jan 12, 2016 22:09
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ALFbrot posted:I hope this causes a bunch of re-evaluation, because I still feel like the only person who likes Black Tie White Noise.
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Creature posted:It's interesting that quite a few brilliant artists/bands from the 1960s and 70s hit their creative lows during the 80s. Was it due to the fact that so many of them had been going for 10/15/20 years by that point, and it was simply inevitable that they'd run out of steam eventually? Or was it something about that time period itself? As always many artists/bands just refused to move on and stagnated by keeping it safe and not really going into new directions like Bowie did.
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