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serious norman
Dec 13, 2007


D_Smart posted:

So, I'm guessing they don't know that this even exists? https://robertsspaceindustries.com/orgs/DEREKSMART

Can someone report it please, because if I do, it will compromise my account because then they'll know what I am.

hey commander i got this:

POSITION STATUS CODE:
404NAVIGATING UNCHARTED TERRITORY
Warning:

You are currently venturing unknown space. In the event you are lost, the UEE highly recommends plotting a new destination back towards home-space.

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Ap0calyps3
May 14, 2009



Google Butt posted:

I wonder why they stopped?

Rapid evolution of the Oculus SDK I imagine. It was a waste of time to develop anything for it back then. Most of the Oculus demos/games from 6+ months ago no longer work due to how they api has changed. Programming is hard?

Chickenfrogman
Sep 16, 2011

by exmarx



CIG deserves to burn to the loving ground.

Lowtax
Nov 16, 1999


Ap0calyps3 posted:

Pardon me if I don't take you for an authority on anything Derek. They actually had VR working for a while in earlier builds with a DK1.
you can make VR work for a sphere on a flat plane 3d engine tutorial. What does that prove?

D_Smart
May 11, 2010

by FactsAreUseless


College Slice

Ap0calyps3 posted:

Pardon me if I don't take you for an authority on anything Derek. They actually had VR working for a while in earlier builds with a DK1.

I saw it. It was a prototype for the Spergs. Long before they even had the poo poo they call 2.0. And it was based on the alpha build that CryTek put together. It only worked with the core CryEngine. Not the spaghetti farce they now have in 2.0x

Anyone who has played 2.0 and thinks that this game will ever have a VR version, is a loving idiot. Not even a fool; a bona fide loving idiot.

serious norman
Dec 13, 2007


Lol @ non-porn VR.

tooterfish
Jul 13, 2013



fuctifino posted:

On the subject of Sandi...


Someone tell her to cheer the gently caress up, Manchester actually looks exactly like that right now...

She'll have to bring her own boat though.

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

serious norman posted:

Lol @ non-porn VR.

dude one day soon

Oculus + Fleshlight + Femshep

Ap0calyps3
May 14, 2009



D_Smart posted:

I saw it. It was a prototype for the Spergs. Long before they even had the poo poo they call 2.0. And it was based on the alpha build that CryTek put together. It only worked with the core CryEngine. Not the spaghetti farce they now have in 2.0x

Anyone who has played 2.0 and thinks that this game will ever have a VR version, is a loving idiot. Not even a fool; a bona fide loving idiot.

Do you have any facts to back that up? So in 2020 there is no way this game will run with VR when it is released?

Martout
Aug 8, 2007

None so deprived


Ap0calyps3 posted:

when it is released?

haha

G0RF
Mar 19, 2015

Some galactic defender you are, Space Cadet.


Ap0calyps3 posted:

Pardon me if I don't take you for an authority on anything Derek. They actually had VR working for a while in earlier builds with a DK1.
Are you talking Arena Commander VR? If so that doesn't seem like much work (tho I would assume the turrets in space flight model would've been a little hard to endure after awhile.)

There's no way it's going to work in 2.0 build, mate. Chris has doomed VR hopes for that and it amazes me this fact eludes the enthusiasts who are playing it.

Beer4TheBeerGod
Aug 23, 2004

"I'm cisgender heterosexual white American male.

Fuck you for telling me what "my part" is."

- B4TBG on why they can't be criticized by minorities for being wrong because


Exciting Lemon

I ended up putting way more effort into this than I should have but anyone wondering just how many times CIG has hosed up dates should check out that post.


Beautiful.

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos


Ap0calyps3 posted:

Rapid evolution of the Oculus SDK I imagine. It was a waste of time to develop anything for it back then. Most of the Oculus demos/games from 6+ months ago no longer work due to how they api has changed. Programming is hard?

With respect I think there is more to it than that.
The reason most demos don't work is because of the way Unity works with the SDK (or the SDK works with Unity), it is totally irrelevant to this. Most demos just aren't worthwhile to update for their creators, but some do update and their demos continue to work. There are devs on Steam saying 'can't be arsed updating sorry, thanks for the cash.' - I'm talking about Unity because the vast majority of stuff out there is created in it.
My credentials: I am currently co creating a VR game (I am not a coder, I am helping in other ways) and it's had to be updated many times to cater to the SDK, which it has been ad it continues to work fine.
I think the sudden dropping of VR is much much more likely to be because of how ill the game makes you feel when you:
Climb ladders
Sit in a chair
Get in a buggy
Do anything

My gut feeling is this bit them in the rear end as far as VR is concerned, it's a problem with the game design rather than the engine or SDK, I can still play Far Cry just fine in VR if I want, although it's been a while.

A Neurotic Jew
Feb 17, 2012

by exmarx


osker if you don't mind me asking, how much were you asking to be refunded?

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos


serious norman posted:

Lol @ non-porn VR.

Lol @ VR in general, I love it sometimes but gently caress me it's nerdy ha ha

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001




This is brilliant. I think next thing to do is to phone CIG directly, using a skype recorder, and troll the fuckers into refunding you.

e: If it's illegal to record a call in your state, I can host the skype call and record it from the UK

e2: This offer is open to anyone seeking a refund.

e3: If you feel uncomfortable talking to them, I will quite happily speak on your behalf.

fuctifino fucked around with this message at 04:04 on Jan 3, 2016

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos


Ap0calyps3 posted:

Do you have any facts to back that up? So in 2020 there is no way this game will run with VR when it is released?

Not if they keep those animations in, no, you can have a graphics card from 2020 that'll run the game easily but the moment you wipe your rear end / get in a chair / bob your head you'll feel ill, you can't bullshit that stuff away, it's real and it happens.

Ap0calyps3
May 14, 2009



peter gabriel posted:

Not if they keep those animations in, no, you can have a graphics card from 2020 that'll run the game easily but the moment you wipe your rear end / get in a chair / bob your head you'll feel ill, you can't bullshit that stuff away, it's real and it happens.

Yet another good reason to legalize weed. I agree regarding the "immersive" animations, but that is trivial to work around with instant transitions, or electrodes attached to your brain.

G0RF
Mar 19, 2015

Some galactic defender you are, Space Cadet.


Chickenfrogman posted:

CIG deserves to burn to the loving ground.
Seems like it's doing so - in slow motion, so we can really savor every minute.

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos


Ap0calyps3 posted:

Yet another good reason to legalize weed. I agree regarding the "immersive" animations, but that is trivial to work around with instant transitions, or electrodes attached to your brain.

The animation where you get in your ship is needed as that is when your character becomes the ship, so they have to keep a few things like that.
I tried my hand at a serious post, it didn't go well so I am going to agree with you from here on out because it's friendlier that way and I like the cut of your jib

Ap0calyps3
May 14, 2009



Sorry I suck at serious posting so i ridiculous post instead. Having said that, shame on this thread for crushing the dreams of a poor hardworking boy like Chris. Don't you know about the power of intention? Watch "The Secret", Chris did, and now he has a ton of money. How can you weigh the value of mundane money against a dream?

G0RF
Mar 19, 2015

Some galactic defender you are, Space Cadet.


peter gabriel posted:

You can't just do those scenes where Gary Oldman is making a rousing speech, you cannot have camera pans like that, you'll throw up.
I almost threw up just watching it in 2D. I bet the VR version would induce a sea cucumber blowout ...

DarkSol
May 18, 2006

Gee, I wish we had one of them doomsday machines.

fuctifino posted:

This is brilliant. I think next thing to do is to phone CIG directly, using a skype recorder, and troll the fuckers into refunding you.

e: If it's illegal to record a call in your state, I can host the skype call and record it from the UK

e2: This offer is open to anyone seeking a refund.

e3: If you feel uncomfortable talking to them, I will quite happily speak on your behalf.

I may take you up on this. I only did the KS, but if ripping money out of their hands is the end result...

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos


Ap0calyps3 posted:

Sorry I suck at serious posting so i ridiculous post instead. Having said that, shame on this thread for crushing the dreams of a poor hardworking boy like Chris. Don't you know about the power of intention? Watch "The Secret", Chris did, and now he has a ton of money. How can you weigh the value of mundane money against a dream?

I feel I have met a kindred spirit in you.
Shame on the rest of you, how could you?

Scruffpuff
Dec 23, 2015

Fidelity. Wait, was I'm working on again?

Ap0calyps3 posted:

Yet another good reason to legalize weed. I agree regarding the "immersive" animations, but that is trivial to work around with instant transitions, or electrodes attached to your brain.

Chris will never get rid of those animations. He's made the word "immersion" one of his cult trigger words, and even gone as far as redefining exactly what "immersion" means so that his sect identifies the term with those unnecessary animations.

The entire visual design of the game (at least in recent cuts) was not only not designed for VR - it was designed to simulate what a VR experience would be like using just a regular flat monitor. It was literally designed against VR. Thus, as others have mentioned, consider the head bob animations, the weird looking around crap when you're climbing into the ship, the bizarro-world animations when you get into and out of a bunk or cargo crawlspace, etc.

Do you know how much of that would have to be ripped out of the game?

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos


G0RF posted:

I almost threw up just watching it in 2D. I bet the VR version would induce a sea cucumber blowout ...



That was me when I loaded up Battlefield

CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002

~c u at the crossroads~


Slippery Tilde

Heard the vanduul are loaded with weapons,
Packed up and ready to go
bought up some glaive scythes, day after pay day,
from a man who never says no

The sound of gunfire, off in the distance,
nevermind it crashed on me now
Load up a cutlass, choad up with lando,
I've post all over the brown

Matlock Birthmark
Sep 24, 2005

I wanted this to happen!!


Soiled Meat

I suppose this is the benefit to Star Citizen being something for everyone. You can refocus on whatever you want whenever.

Yesterday it was procedural generation and birds, today VR.

Blazing Ownager
Jun 2, 2007

by FactsAreUseless


D_Smart posted:

Anyone who has played 2.0 and thinks that this game will ever have a VR version, is a loving idiot. Not even a fool; a bona fide loving idiot.

Given that supporting VR isn't all that hard makes this statement utterly ridiculous, unless you mean it in a "there will be no game, so of course it won't have VR."

Seriously the headset devs are making it so any idiot coder that is capable of drooling on the keyboard can hack it in, it just might suck. Hell most engines are just having built-in support at this point.

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos


Scruffpuff posted:

Chris will never get rid of those animations. He's made the word "immersion" one of his cult trigger words, and even gone as far as redefining exactly what "immersion" means so that his sect identifies the term with those unnecessary animations.

The entire visual design of the game (at least in recent cuts) was not only not designed for VR - it was designed to simulate what a VR experience would be like using just a regular flat monitor. It was literally designed against VR. Thus, as others have mentioned, consider the head bob animations, the weird looking around crap when you're climbing into the ship, the bizarro-world animations when you get into and out of a bunk or cargo crawlspace, etc.

Do you know how much of that would have to be ripped out of the game?



Yup, my feeling is that in his quest for 'immersion' with all those 20 second long 'Hey it looks like you're climbing a ladder' animations he's made it impossible to use VR, which is the best way to be 'immersed' in any game.
I legit love that h aha

HapiMerchant
Apr 22, 2014


fuctifino posted:

This is brilliant. I think next thing to do is to phone CIG directly, using a skype recorder, and troll the fuckers into refunding you.

e: If it's illegal to record a call in your state, I can host the skype call and record it from the UK

e2: This offer is open to anyone seeking a refund.

e3: If you feel uncomfortable talking to them, I will quite happily speak on your behalf.

I may take you up on this if my initial refund request is denied. I'm a bit of a coward when it comes to being very blunt and 'rude' to anyone, especially someone who i want money (back) from

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001



^^^ Sure I'm more than willing. Though I'm not blunt and rude... I'm painfully polite, calm yet forceful when on the phone, and people find it very hard to hang up on me.

DarkSol posted:

I may take you up on this. I only did the KS, but if ripping money out of their hands is the end result...

I'd love to help. I've asked a couple of ex CIG employees for telephone numbers, as they seem to be lacking on the RSI website.... but I'm 100% willing and eager to do this. I think it will be a lot of fun, and it may also force them to refund those who need them.

I used to do a lot of stuff helping ex Scientologists, directly phoning the orgs and internal offices... as well as trolling the gently caress out of them. I used to be good at it, and I thoroughly enjoyed every minute of it

fuctifino fucked around with this message at 04:23 on Jan 3, 2016

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos


HapiMerchant posted:

I may take you up on this if my initial refund request is denied. I'm a bit of a coward when it comes to being very blunt and 'rude' to anyone, especially someone who i want money (back) from

The key is to imagine everyone naked

HapiMerchant
Apr 22, 2014


fuctifino posted:

^^^ Sure I'm more than willing. Though I'm not blunt and rude... I'm painfully polite, calm yet forceful when on the phone, and people find it very hard to hang up on me.


I'd love to help. I've asked a couple of ex CIG employees for telephone numbers, as they seem to be lacking on the RSI website.... but I'm 100% willing and eager to do this. I think it will be a lot of fun, and it may also force them to refund those who need them.

I used to do a lot of stuff helping ex Scientologists, directly phoning the orgs and internal offices... as well as trolling the gently caress out of them. I used to be good at it, and I thoroughly enjoyed every minute of it

well you'll hear from me if i need you. I do hope they just give it to me though, i'd rather at least be able to say it was painless. i Know in my heart it won't though

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001



HapiMerchant posted:

well you'll hear from me if i need you. I do hope they just give it to me though, i'd rather at least be able to say it was painless. i Know in my heart it won't though

Well, we can always turn it around and make it painful and embarrassing for RSI

DarkSol
May 18, 2006

Gee, I wish we had one of them doomsday machines.

peter gabriel posted:

The key is to imagine everyone naked

Banano
Jan 10, 2005


Soiled Meat

The crobber, Ben, homeless santa and sandi
jfc

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos


Banano posted:

The crobber, Ben, homeless santa and sandi
jfc

Now imagine them naked

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos



Hell yeah

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Mirificus
Oct 29, 2004

Kings need not raise their voices to be heard


peter gabriel posted:

Now imagine them naked

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