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Happy Sisyphus
Nov 13, 2013

You take the blue paarp - the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red paarp - you stay in pre-alpha, and I show you how deep the sperg wallet goes.



Scruffpuff posted:

It's hard to tell. I pay with AwfulBux™ so I might be getting double-charged.

how many AwfulBux to 1 BTC? Asking for a friend.

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Morningwoodpecker
Jan 17, 2016

I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS POSSIBLE FOR SOMEONE TO BE THIS STUPID

BUT HERE YOU ARE


Dark Off posted:

just to let you know empty legal threads against companies kinda fulfills defamation clause. It could be interpret like your trying to cause financial loss to CIG. So if you dont sue em your kinda in risk here, regardless of truthiness of your statements.
But hey we know that the lawsuit is coming in 2 weeks right?

CIG's threats to the Escapist and labeling beer4thebeergod a corporate spy could be viewed in exactly the same light, the trick to being a victim in legal terms is not to have publicly done exactly what you want to sue others for doing. Unless you want to come off looking a twat, losing and paying everyone's legal fees whilst generating a colossal amount of negative publicity for yourself.

You'd have to be some sort of financially illiterate thumb headed numpty to do that.

Fake Edit : $105 million stretch goal identified

EightAce
May 10, 2015

Watch it all come crashing down on his head and wonder why any of us gave him money in the first place.


https://forums.robertsspaceindustri...3804/fat-people

This clueless fucker has his priorities right. Of course you can be fat , whatever you like mate the answer is a resounding yes

MeLKoR
Dec 23, 2004

by FactsAreUseless


Einbauschrank posted:

In Germany when selling to the "end consumer" you are required to show prices including VAT. Only when selling to other people along the production chain are you exempt from having to include the VAT.
I'm sorry, when I said "invisible" I meant the prices to the consumer always include VAT so people don't have to work out this crazy poo poo by themselves.

quote:

So to my understanding CIG would have to display VAT on their site if they were based in Germany.
CIG does display VAT on their site if you chose your location as Germany. The confusion arises from the fact that since the gift cards to into store credit and the store is international the store credit (and consequently the poo poo prices) are all pre-VAT. You pay $60 (VAT included) and get $50 in store credit to buy ships at pre-VAT prices (since you already paid it).

quote:

Also, you can chose to pay VAT in your own country or the customer's country (but then you have to stick to it ...) and of course there are many caveats (like exceeding a certain volume of sales into another country). I can only guess how convoluted it must be when selling Space-JPEGS from the US into the EU or other parts of the world.
Selling from the EU to outside is no problem, my invoices simple quote the pre-VAT price and accounting marks the sale with an appropriate VAT exempt code. I have no idea how selling from the outside into the EU works. Does an american company have to charge VAT even if they have no offices in the EU? Do they file tax reports with EU governments? Is the VAT paid at the customs (for physical goods)?


Friendly Tumour posted:

Reddit still reporting imgur hosted pics to get them taken down? Cool.
Nah, I think they stopped that a long time ago.


Wuxi posted:

That really happened?

Reddit is all kinds of strange
Oh yeah, that really happened, just look at the first dozens of pages in the thread. Some redditor (most likely Dolvak) ran a bot on the thread that reported all pictures. Then we started linking to their own pictures on reddit so the bot would report them.
Then they stopped and denied everything. If you mention this on reddit the narrative is that this was all a false flag attack by the goons. Why would we run the bot on our own thread instead of directly on reddit? Why did we only start linking to their pictures after a couple of days of our poo poo getting instantly taken down? Why would we stop when all of their poo poo started getting taken down?
Shitizens didn't become famous for their logic prowess.

Chalks
Sep 30, 2009



EightAce posted:

https://forums.robertsspaceindustri...3804/fat-people

This clueless fucker has his priorities right. Of course you can be fat , whatever you like mate the answer is a resounding yes



Haha. Hahahaha. Hahahahahahaha

EightAce
May 10, 2015

Watch it all come crashing down on his head and wonder why any of us gave him money in the first place.


Chalks posted:



Haha. Hahahaha. Hahahahahahaha

There is a very convincing one on around the verse

Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015







Chalks posted:



Haha. Hahahaha. Hahahahahahaha

JFC the CIG forums never fail to disappoint.

Chalks
Sep 30, 2009



EightAce posted:

There is a very convincing one on around the verse

I guess this is proof that even the cultists realise he's not actually a developer.

Tortolia
Dec 29, 2005

Hindustan Electronics Employee of the Month, July 2008


Grimey Drawer

EightAce posted:

There is a very convincing one on around the verse

Ben_walking_around_table.gif

Hopper
Dec 28, 2004

BOOING! BOOING!

Grimey Drawer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WE5JV6t9i2g

She got cherry lips
Devil eyes
She knows exactly how to monetize
She's out to milk you, danger by design
Cold blooded vixen, she don't compromise
Your optimistic of the coded lies
So far from sensical, but take my advice
Before you play with fire, don’t back twice
And if you get burned, don't be surprised

Got you lifted, drifting higher than the ceiling
Ooh backer it's the ultimate feeling
She’s got you lifted feeling so gifted
How many space ships did you buy?

How many space ships did you buy x4

Sweet talkin' lady
Love how she entice
“oh come on baby and just... back it twice”
Charming alluring everyone's desire
She's out to milk you, you can't run, you can't hide
Your optimistic of the coded lies
So far from sensical, but take my advice
Before you play with fire, don’t back twice
And if you get burned, well backer don't you be surprised

Got you lifted, drifting higher than the ceiling
Ooh backer it's the ultimate feeling
She’s got you lifted feeling so gifted
How many space ships did you buy?

How many space ships did you buy? x3

And will you get more tonight?

Got you lifted, drifting higher than the ceiling
Ooh backer it's the ultimate feeling
She’s got you lifted feeling so gifted
How many space ships did you buy?

How many space ships did you buy? x4

Hopper fucked around with this message at 14:04 on Jan 19, 2016

TheLastRoboKy
May 2, 2009

Finishing the game with everyone else's continues


Dark Off posted:

just to let you know empty legal threads against companies kinda fulfills defamation clause. It could be interpret like your trying to cause financial loss to CIG. So if you dont sue em your kinda in risk here, regardless of truthiness of your statements.
But hey we know that the lawsuit is coming in 2 weeks right?

Let's be real you have no idea what you're talking about, you gotta go in with more confidence if you're gonna run the ruse-rail. No one's going to fall for "kinda".


EightAce posted:

https://forums.robertsspaceindustri...3804/fat-people

This clueless fucker has his priorities right. Of course you can be fat , whatever you like mate the answer is a resounding yes

His end game is being so fat he becomes his own planetoid and opens up his own space-port on himself for the lucrative lard trade.

Xarbala
Feb 13, 2011






Just got back from binging a ton of Total War Attila and there's all this talk about VAT and what is this I'm confused

MeLKoR
Dec 23, 2004

by FactsAreUseless


Klyith posted:

It's really neat to have your auto mechanic tell you straight up that if I pay in cash he doesn't have to charge any tax. And then later hear rumors that he's part of a local criminal syndicate.


good mechanic tho, A+ service would recommend
As you pointed out "he's part of a local criminal syndicate", this isn't the kind of poo poo that your mom and pop store can pull because if they don't charge VAT they are stuck with it when they paid their suppliers. It's like musical chairs, the last person to get issued an invoice gets stuck with the VAT. Unless the whole chain is hosed someone is going to have to pay.

Scruffpuff
Dec 23, 2015

Fidelity. Wait, was I'm working on again?

Chalks posted:

I guess this is proof that even the cultists realise he's not actually a developer.

I think Ben's story is the saddest one in this whole saga. Tying your entire identity, even into adulthood, around a video game that people played a bit, enjoyed, and moved on. Keeping it alive on a website long, long after the world had forgotten it. Then getting hired by your hero just to find out he's an inept autist. Trying to keep the faith against all available evidence; becoming a despot in defense of a useless man who's nothing like you imagined. Wearing that loving necklace.

Ben is the Kylo Ren of Star Citizen. A fat Kylo Ren.

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001





He deleted this comment a few minutes after posting it, but I was able to get a screenshot. This was posted by a 49 year old man who has spent $2500-$4999 on imaginary spaceship jpegs.

e: He was replying to my comment at the bottom of this thread:

fuctifino fucked around with this message at 14:21 on Jan 19, 2016

Daztek
Jun 2, 2006





hello peter '' gabriel, i liked your video, but due to your excellent choice of music I was unable to hear the soothing voices, so i'll have to rate it 5 star citizens out of 6

Chalks
Sep 30, 2009



fuctifino posted:



He deleted this comment a few minutes after posting it, but I was able to get a screenshot. This was posted by a 49 year old man who has spent $2500-$4999 on imaginary spaceship jpegs.

Lol who was he replying to with this? Someone he actually knows is fat or is he literally writing random fantasies about redditors being fat?

Chalks fucked around with this message at 14:12 on Jan 19, 2016

Differo Cathedra
Oct 9, 2012

To be honest it was 4AM when I started making the gif and even I don't know what it's supposed to be about by the time I finished it an hour and a few GIS searches later




T.G. Xarbala posted:

Just got back from binging a ton of Total War Attila and there's all this talk about VAT and what is this I'm confused

No, you're all caught up. My eyes glaze over by the the time I see the third set of numbers with decimals because as a proud American, I know that math is for fools and foreigners.

Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015







fuctifino posted:



He deleted this comment a few minutes after posting it, but I was able to get a screenshot. This was posted by a 49 year old man who has spent $2500-$4999 on imaginary spaceship jpegs.

e: He replied to my comment at the bottom of this thread:



That's a really hosed up thing to say to Ben.

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001



Chalks posted:

Lol who was he replying to with this? Someone he actually knows is fat or is he literally writing random fantasies about redditors being fat?

I forgot to include the other image in my post. It was in reply to this, and a direct reply to me:



Those eyes: lol (pic from his twitter profile)

fuctifino fucked around with this message at 14:19 on Jan 19, 2016

MeLKoR
Dec 23, 2004

by FactsAreUseless


fuctifino posted:



He deleted this comment a few minutes after posting it, but I was able to get a screenshot. This was posted by a 49 year old man who has spent $2500-$4999 on imaginary spaceship jpegs.

Bullshit, that's faked, no point denying it. Are you trying to convince me that the people that constantly whine that we are mean to Fat Bastard because he's not only a bastard but a barrel of lard would turn around and do the same thing they acuse us off? Get the gently caress out of here, troll.

Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008



Scratchmo

MeLKoR posted:

Selling from the EU to outside is no problem, my invoices simple quote the pre-VAT price and accounting marks the sale with an appropriate VAT exempt code. I have no idea how selling from the outside into the EU works. Does an american company have to charge VAT even if they have no offices in the EU? Do they file tax reports with EU governments? Is the VAT paid at the customs (for physical goods)?

VAT is paid at customs yes

I think the customer is responsible for keeping track of VAT and paying it

but ebay among others have "customs and duties" thing available to sellers, which charges VAT and fees at checkout

I guess it's because nobody wants to get a lovely review because of customs fees, but I'm pretty confident ebay overcharges because they're pricks

Tijuana Bibliophile fucked around with this message at 14:19 on Jan 19, 2016

Wuxi
Apr 3, 2012



MeLKoR posted:

Oh yeah, that really happened, just look at the first dozens of pages in the thread. Some redditor (most likely Dolvak) ran a bot on the thread that reported all pictures. Then we started linking to their own pictures on reddit so the bot would report them.
Then they stopped and denied everything. If you mention this on reddit the narrative is that this was all a false flag attack by the goons. Why would we run the bot on our own thread instead of directly on reddit? Why did we only start linking to their pictures after a couple of days of our poo poo getting instantly taken down? Why would we stop when all of their poo poo started getting taken down?
Shitizens didn't become famous for their logic prowess.

Amazing. So that was the starting point of the mythical Stargur? To protect their jpegs from the evil goons their own bot?

Mirificus
Oct 29, 2004

Kings need not raise their voices to be heard



https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitize...present/cz3mdg7

Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015







Wuxi posted:

Amazing. So that was the starting point of the mythical Stargur? To protect their jpegs from the evil goons their own bot?

Yep, and unsurprisingly they hosed Stargur up completely too.

/r/starcitizen was awash in posts complaining about goons reporting their pictures and instead of standing up to say "Oh uh... that was actually us. Our bad." they just went and tried to make a new imgur.

Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008



Scratchmo

I fought in the Stargur war of 2015

Where's my fake internet trophy?

it dont matter
Aug 29, 2008



tastychicken posted:

I just completed Consortium, that game on Steam... was pretty cool. I bet that's the kind of crew interaction Star Citizens are hoping for.
It'll probably not be.

https://www.kickstarter.com/project...rtium-the-tower

It was a p. cool game. The dialogue options were great, I liked telling everyone I was playing a game so they end up thinking you're mental.

Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015







Tijuana Bibliophile posted:

I fought in the Stargur war of 2015

Where's my fake internet trophy?

Here's a picture of it to tide you over:


Estimated delivery - 2017 (if we're still in business)

Godmode Enabled
Jul 14, 2013

I AM A BETAGOON, ASK ME ABOUT PROPER GRIEF TO CASH RATIOS.



CrazyLoon
Aug 10, 2015

"..."



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NajwAMLn3o

EightAce
May 10, 2015

Watch it all come crashing down on his head and wonder why any of us gave him money in the first place.



whats the safe word?

Bring out the sperg ....The sperg's sleeping

Dark Off
Aug 14, 2015






TheLastRoboKy posted:

Let's be real you have no idea what you're talking about, you gotta go in with more confidence if you're gonna run the ruse-rail. No one's going to fall for "kinda".


His end game is being so fat he becomes his own planetoid and opens up his own space-port on himself for the lucrative lard trade.

i said kinda because i dont know how US legislation works, it would definitely work like that in Europe.

MeLKoR
Dec 23, 2004

by FactsAreUseless


Wuxi posted:

Amazing. So that was the starting point of the mythical Stargur? To protect their jpegs from the evil goons their own bot?

Yep, and the speed at which Dolvak had it up and running as soon as their own pictures started going down and his eagerness to blame us is a good indicator he was behind it. A good way to earn brownie points with the community and give INN positive exposure.

















As usual these people don't think things through.



You can imagine how that went.



The day reddit came for our catte pictures.
Never forget!

tastychicken
Jul 17, 2007
Title text goes here

EightAce posted:

whats the safe word?

Bring out the sperg ....The sperg's sleeping

I thought we agreed on mayonnaise!

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014




Geguri Gegogi
Oct 13, 2010


quote:






"Innovation"

Yeah, well, by SC standards, I guess a knock-off with less features counts as an innovation? Sure, why not?

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014






It's supposed to be Unita, not unitum. lol

Diatom
Mar 27, 2009


fuctifino posted:



He deleted this comment a few minutes after posting it, but I was able to get a screenshot. This was posted by a 49 year old man who has spent $2500-$4999 on imaginary spaceship jpegs.

e: He was replying to my comment at the bottom of this thread:



Thanks for sharing that! It was some of my better work.

adebisi lives
Nov 11, 2009


Subject: why play the game early?

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitize...the_game_early/

quote:

I am thinking about downloading the game to take a look. I am saving up money so I won't have to work when this game comes out. That is how dedicated I am but what is the point of playing the alpha? I think playing a month or two before launch should be significant to pick up the game mechanics. Also I want to work through my backlog of steam games as I know I wont have as much time for that when this launches.

Maybe I will miss out on networking with other players. On that note if you want a dedicated pilot who is looking to trade/smuggle and escort convoys of ships than pm me. I appreciate that people are playing the alpha as it helps development. I would be grateful if someone explained how I am wrong about playing the alpha early.

quote:

saving up so that you won't have to work when it comes out?!??!! I cant tell if you are trolling...

quote:

100% serious. If you rent a room with with bills included and are super frugal with an average job it can be possible to work 6 months on, 1-2 years off. I used to rent a nice fully detached house with a girlfriend but after we split up I downsized and I have never been happier. It helps that my house mate and land lady are awesome people who don't give a poo poo what I do. My house mate even followed my lead and he hardly works either although he does have some health problems at the moment. I live in England by the way.

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adebisi lives
Nov 11, 2009


Lol wait it gets better.

quote:

How do you plan on dealing with retirement? How old are you?

quote:

I am 28. I am hoping that by the time I retire, we will have mega automated factories, one of which can produce goods for millions of people. When that happens we will have to tax the robots to give money to people as the robots wont be buying the goods that they produce.

When I retire I hope to plug myself into a matrix style device, maybe do a bit of work from there in my super awesome virtual office with my 25 year old virtual body. If we don't adopt universal basic income by the time we have fully automated cars and factories then the rich will probably decide to kill all us plebs and I wont have to worry about retirement.

This 15 minute youtube clip called Humans need not apply does a pretty good job of explaining what I am talking about, we have AI that can do creative things like compose music right now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pq...channel=CGPGrey

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