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Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013




If a pimp sends you 'round to a hotel to pick up his car, make sure you know his last name. I can't let you into a locked garage just because someone with a vendor-trash-common first name that you guessed is staying here.

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no_tears
Dec 20, 2020


Recently left a job at a popular stock brokerage and holyyyyyy moly the number of people writing in saying they were contacted by customer support and proceeded to send said “support agent” crypto or gift cards was insane. Saw this happen with a variety of age groups which was also surprising but not at the same time.

goatsestretchgoals
Jun 4, 2011

in soviet russia, you shove robot

Atticus_1354 posted:

But the marine biologist who had a $6 million houseboat custom built must be real.



That sound you heard was every boat captain in history saying a period appropriate version of "hell no".

E: Add quote

Captain Monkey
Aug 23, 2007



Why? For those of us who aren’t maritime competent. It doesn’t look too much less stable than a pontoon or something. In shallow water it’d be fine, right?

tinytort
Jun 10, 2013

Super healthy, super cheap

Captain Monkey posted:

Why? For those of us who aren’t maritime competent. It doesn’t look too much less stable than a pontoon or something. In shallow water it’d be fine, right?

Among other issues, it's a rectangle - which is pretty much the least ocean-going shape you can pick, because it means you're plowing into the waves no matter what direction you go in.

It's also a rectangular glass box, that's intended to cope with flooding and sea storms. If the winds and debris don't shatter the windows, it's probably going to capsize as soon as it gets hit by waves in the wrong direction...and at that point, it's probably a rectangular glass death trap. I don't think it'd need to be particularly strong waves, either; it might capsize in light chop, or even just an ambitious breeze.

There's a reason why traditional houseboats emphasize the boat part and leave the house part for last. Keeping the dwelling from sinking or turtling is a higher priority than lots of windows or an abundance of floor space.

Also, the way all the photos show only the water-facing side and not the dock-facing side, especially in combination with how none of the above-water parts seem to make contact with the waterline at all, gives me no confidence in the ability of that deck's implied promise of being a stabilizer.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009



There are plenty of house boats that are basically a normal house built on a flat barge.

They're not meant to be out out on the water in anything but perfectly calm weather though and then only for being towed from one marina to another. The rest of their time they spend moored in a marina protected from wind and waves.

There are of course house boats meant to go out under their own power but as said they tend to look more like regular ships. A lot of the time those are old river/lake bulk haulers with the cargo holds converted to living spaces.

e: Checked the article and it says the glass rectangle is meant to daytrip under its own power. I share your doubt there.

Collateral Damage fucked around with this message at 08:36 on May 18, 2021

Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X


I would love to see the thick stack of waivers and disclaimers you have to sign every single sheet of to purchase one of those deathtraps.

Atticus_1354
Dec 9, 2006

Don't you go near that dog, you understand? Don't go near him, he's just as dangerous dead as alive.


tinytort posted:

If the winds and debris don't shatter the windows, it's probably going to capsize as soon as it gets hit by waves in the wrong direction...and at that point, it's probably a rectangular glass death trap. I don't think it'd need to be particularly strong waves, either; it might capsize in light chop, or even just an ambitious breeze.

Don't worry it has giant hydraulic screws that dig in to the seafloor for stabilization. Of course this has extremely detrimental affects to sealife and the entire thing was just a big scam to get around property prices.

Pekinduck
May 10, 2008


I just called the (completely legitimate) number to activate a credit card. You'd think they could be a little less sus then "HELLO WELCOME TO CARD SERVICES" like at least say your company name. I had to double-check the number.

Initio
Oct 29, 2007
!

I hung up on CitiBanks fraud department before because they just said “card services”.

Granted, I’d hang up and call the number on the back of my card no matter what, but since they didn’t identify themselves I didn’t see that they froze the account until the next time I tried to use it.

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man




Someone sent me an MLM pitch last night for "Nu Skin" and "Nourish the Children"

Now even googling "Nu Skin" brought up hits that the company has been investigated repeatedly and fined for being a pyramid scheme (not that I'd get into that snake oil even if it weren't), but there is less out there on Nourish the Children. Anyone know what the grift is there?

Hutla
Jun 5, 2004

It's mechanical

Probably just the standard lovely "charity" that spends 95% of its donations on wildly high executive salaries and 5% on programming.

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man




Hutla posted:

Probably just the standard lovely "charity" that spends 95% of its donations on wildly high executive salaries and 5% on programming.

Well I guess, probably. BTW this video is so loving WASPy & white man's burden that I feel that it needs some kind of TW:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6PP8QW5V50

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

I'm sorry, everyone.

CommonShore posted:

Someone sent me an MLM pitch last night for "Nu Skin" and "Nourish the Children"

Now even googling "Nu Skin" brought up hits that the company has been investigated repeatedly and fined for being a pyramid scheme (not that I'd get into that snake oil even if it weren't), but there is less out there on Nourish the Children. Anyone know what the grift is there?

I don't know but you better jump on that opportunity.

But for any of these things it's as simple as signing you up, getting you to recruit others, going to seminars and buying "training materials" and poo poo. Always. Nourish the Children is just a roundabout marketing gimmick because who could ever be against child nourishment? What are you some kind of monster who hates kids?

It's probably a way to make the overall thing seem more altruistic and honorable.

EDIT:

This guy's channel has some cool undercover things exposing MLM bullshit. Apologies if he's been posted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnbJ9uZqZXU

hyperhazard
Dec 4, 2011

I am the one lascivious
With magic potion niveous

CommonShore posted:

Someone sent me an MLM pitch last night for "Nu Skin" and "Nourish the Children"

Now even googling "Nu Skin" brought up hits that the company has been investigated repeatedly and fined for being a pyramid scheme (not that I'd get into that snake oil even if it weren't), but there is less out there on Nourish the Children. Anyone know what the grift is there?

Probably the same as any time an MLM has a "help the ___" initiative. Usually when a rep sells a product, they only get about 5% of the actual sale, and the rest goes to the MLM. In this case, the 5% goes to the charity instead, so the rep gets nothing. But the sale counts toward their quota -- if you get a certain number of sales, you get to move up to the next level where you get 6% of the profit (or whatever). So even though they're making nothing, the reps justify it because they're "growing their business" and hey, next month they might be making 1% more!

Meanwhile, the MLM loses no money and they can brag that they donate $X amount to charity. They probably make even more money, because people are guilted into buying products when a charity is involved.

Numerical Anxiety
Sep 2, 2011

Hello.


I regularly donate to Skin the Children and find it a reputable and forthright charity.

Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013




Numerical Anxiety posted:

I regularly donate to Skin the Children and find it a reputable and forthright charity.

Israel appreciates your support.

goatsestretchgoals
Jun 4, 2011

in soviet russia, you shove robot

I love their lamps.

doctorfrog
Mar 14, 2007

Great.



Since the pink ribbon blitz of the 90's/00's I haven't trusted feel-good-buy-me products. Cept maybe Newman's Own.

E:f

doctorfrog fucked around with this message at 20:09 on May 23, 2021

Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X


Newman's Own is also a scam, sorry (but at least some of the products are actually pretty good)

goatsestretchgoals
Jun 4, 2011

in soviet russia, you shove robot

I don’t care if it’s a scam, Newman’s Own limeade is loving amazing and usually pretty cheap.

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002


Eric the Mauve posted:

Newman's Own is also a scam, sorry (but at least some of the products are actually pretty good)

:negative:

They're one of the businesses that are actually (seemingly) good about gluten free stuff too

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007





Volmarias posted:

:negative:

They're one of the businesses that are actually (seemingly) good about gluten free stuff too

The CEO who took over after Newman died was the usual charity grifter shitbag who doubled his pay in three years and did a bunch of usual charity CEO stuff to enrich himself and his friends rather than help charities. Otherwise they're not any more of a scam than corporate donations typically are in that they deduct your donations from their corporate tax burden, so you could capture more of that benefit personally and give more to charity by cutting out the middleman and donating directly to those same organizations.

doctorfrog
Mar 14, 2007

Great.



This is a time of just awful people

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002


Midjack posted:

The CEO who took over after Newman died was the usual charity grifter shitbag who doubled his pay in three years and did a bunch of usual charity CEO stuff to enrich himself and his friends rather than help charities. Otherwise they're not any more of a scam than corporate donations typically are in that they deduct your donations from their corporate tax burden, so you could capture more of that benefit personally and give more to charity by cutting out the middleman and donating directly to those same organizations.

The middle man is a delightful pasta sauce, though! I don't want to cut THAT out of the deal!

Also, I think this explains where the Newman's Own popcorn came from, because it was extremely bad, shockingly so.

Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X


Midjack posted:

The CEO who took over after Newman died was the usual charity grifter shitbag who doubled his pay in three years and did a bunch of usual charity CEO stuff to enrich himself and his friends rather than help charities. Otherwise they're not any more of a scam than corporate donations typically are in that they deduct your donations from their corporate tax burden, so you could capture more of that benefit personally and give more to charity by cutting out the middleman and donating directly to those same organizations.

Only tangentially relevant but in my experience most "nonprofits" are little more than vehicles to convert tax breaks into executive bonuses, fueled largely by paying rank-and-file employees well below market rate and then relentlessly pressuring them to volunteer their off-duty time (i.e., work longer hours for no extra pay) and donate to the organization (i.e., voluntarily take a pay cut) because aren't you passionate about The Cause??

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007





Volmarias posted:

The middle man is a delightful pasta sauce, though! I don't want to cut THAT out of the deal!

Also, I think this explains where the Newman's Own popcorn came from, because it was extremely bad, shockingly so.

Yeah if you like their product and think it's priced fairly then buy it, but don't let the marketing and "100% of profits to charity" canard influence you. I buy their salad dressing, cookies, and frozen pizzas.

Haifisch
Nov 12, 2010

Objection! I object! That was... objectionable!



Taco Defender

Is it time for the "Goodwill is poo poo and treats the people it supposedly helps like poo poo while legally paying them less than minimum wage because labor law allows you to do that with disabled employees" reminder? Between that and Salvation Army being a fundie group that hates queer people, you owe it to yourself to research local thrift shops and find one that goes to a legit cause instead.

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness

Volmarias posted:

:negative:

They're one of the businesses that are actually (seemingly) good about gluten free stuff too
hey, their spelt pretzels are a delicious snack, you are cool to buy from them for the quality of their goods, just don't get got by charity etc.

subpar anachronism
Jan 15, 2005

...I can't!



Haifisch posted:

Is it time for the "Goodwill is poo poo and treats the people it supposedly helps like poo poo while legally paying them less than minimum wage because labor law allows you to do that with disabled employees" reminder? Between that and Salvation Army being a fundie group that hates queer people, you owe it to yourself to research local thrift shops and find one that goes to a legit cause instead.

Value Village, Goodwill, and Salvation Army are all on my no list. I've found there's a lot of smaller op shops run by charities which I prefer.

Mister Kingdom
Dec 14, 2005

And the tears that fall
On the city wall
Will fade away
With the rays of morning light

Do these scam groups cycle through a list of potential ripoffs?

Nearly every day for the last two weeks I've been getting 3-4 emails letting me know my Norton Lifelock account "will had been espired" and an equal number of offers to buy GEICO auto insurance (although none from GEICO itself, of course).

Before that it was those hilarious "we have videos of you wacking it to porn sites" threats, cheap fake Viagra, and emails letting me know the laptop I never ordered is being delivered to an address that doesn't exist.

bird with big dick
Oct 21, 2015




Last time I got one of those I emailed them a video of me whacking it and told them to do their worst.

bird with big dick
Oct 21, 2015




Like, if I could force every single person on the planet to witness me whacking it, I would do it.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

I'm sorry, everyone.

bird with big dick posted:

Last time I got one of those I emailed them a video of me whacking it and told them to do their worst.

User name/post combo

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007





Mister Kingdom posted:

Do these scam groups cycle through a list of potential ripoffs?

Nearly every day for the last two weeks I've been getting 3-4 emails letting me know my Norton Lifelock account "will had been espired" and an equal number of offers to buy GEICO auto insurance (although none from GEICO itself, of course).

Before that it was those hilarious "we have videos of you wacking it to porn sites" threats, cheap fake Viagra, and emails letting me know the laptop I never ordered is being delivered to an address that doesn't exist.

It's as likely that as a new group cycling through the same tired poo poo hoping for a few hundred hits from tens of millions of addresses.

cakesmith handyman
Jul 22, 2007

Pip-Pip old chap! Last one in is a rotten egg what what.



BiggerBoat posted:

User name/post combo

Big Bird Energy

Pekinduck
May 10, 2008


Midjack posted:

It's as likely that as a new group cycling through the same tired poo poo hoping for a few hundred hits from tens of millions of addresses.

Probably this, also I wonder if they strike upon some specific message wording that manages to get past the spam filters and blast it until the filters get updated.

Mister Kingdom
Dec 14, 2005

And the tears that fall
On the city wall
Will fade away
With the rays of morning light

Pekinduck posted:

Probably this, also I wonder if they strike upon some specific message wording that manages to get past the spam filters and blast it until the filters get updated.

The Norton emails I've been getting use weird non-English versions of English letters.

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002


Mister Kingdom posted:

The Norton emails I've been getting use weird non-English versions of English letters.

This is becoming increasingly common. I'm just waiting until you can tell that an email is spam because the subject line looks like Zalgo is offering you the dick pills

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goatsestretchgoals
Jun 4, 2011

in soviet russia, you shove robot

DEHUMANIZE YOURSELF AND FACE TO INCREASED BLOOD FLOW IN YOUR DICK

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