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Salt Fish
Sep 11, 2003

Cybernetic Crumb

doctorfrog posted:

I'm surprised there's a scam that actually pays something. Why wouldn't you just cash out and have a free $20?

I think some people have tried but the issue is that the "hiring" process takes a days, there is a day of training, you have to meet with a mentor etc and that just isn't worth the work.

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Olanphonia
Jul 27, 2006

I'm open to suggestions~
If the money is kept in a place accessed only through the scammers app, I can easily imagine it functions like so many of the crypto platforms scams where you can deposit money but withdrawing suddenly ends up with problems you need to call customer support to resolve and weirdly you can never get someone on the phone huh that's strange

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010
they also said its email only comms, so if they see a burner email adress or a proxy email service, they probably just burn your address.

only people with obviuous address.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



Volmarias posted:

The ol "cannot cleat an honest man" bit

Sure you can, Ty Cobb did it all the time.

Gully Foyle
Feb 29, 2008

doctorfrog posted:

I'm surprised there's a scam that actually pays something. Why wouldn't you just cash out and have a free $20?

That's why they do it though - even if you are being mindful for scams, as soon as you get real money out, even a small amount, that's gonna go a long way to turn off that part of the brain that is being careful and let the greed take over. And just like other scams, if you have 10 people cash out their $20 and bail, the 11th guy who commits $500+ makes it more than worth it.

It's basically the same as a pool shark letting some guy win a couple of $20 games. They take the risk of someone refusing to play more and walking away, but it's worth it for the true suckers that are taken for a ride.

doctorfrog
Mar 14, 2007

Great.

I see, thanks thread. Scams are fascinating, because people and their motivations are fascinating.

Crust First
May 1, 2013

Wrong lads.
This happens a lot with cryptocurrency, where people get tricked into giving someone full access to a specific currency in their wallet. The website will call it something like "liquidity pool mining" and in some cases actually pay out for a while, tempting the user to deposit more funds in that currency. Once the funds in the wallet reach a certain point, they'll just take them all.

If you try to scam the scammers by starting with a large amount of funds, they'll just take those right away instead.

Worst case they're out a small amount of money they stole from someone else anyway.

Sometimes they'll claim they didn't steal the funds, they actually got auto-transferred to an even better and more rewarding secret pool and if you want them back you have to deposit an even larger amount of money to trigger the release. They'll keep claiming this until you stop giving them more money.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.
To this day I still do not understand the whole crypto currency thing but everyone I know swears some person they knew made 75 or 100k doing it.

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

BiggerBoat posted:

To this day I still do not understand the whole crypto currency thing but everyone I know swears some person they knew made 75 or 100k doing it.

As long as you didn't stick it in some exchange that went belly up or turned out to be a scam, the price has kept rising, so you might actually make money just by hodling. It doesn't actually make sense, and crypto is just a frustrating farce of destroying the planet Even Faster to pretend that it's important. You're missing nothing, it is genuinely stupid, and people who have bought it have helped legitimize something that at this point is only useful for speculation and ransomware.

Fruits of the sea
Dec 1, 2010

I know a couple folks who cashed out but they are pretty quiet about it. Feels like the folks who talk a lot about their crypto earnings also have it all tied up in yet more crypto or some other side-hustle

Haifisch
Nov 13, 2010

Objection! I object! That was... objectionable!



Taco Defender

BiggerBoat posted:

To this day I still do not understand the whole crypto currency thing but everyone I know swears some person they knew made 75 or 100k doing it.
It's gambling, so people tend to be loud about wins and quiet about losses.

At this point it making no sense outside of that context is a feature and not a bug, because it makes scamming easier in many ways. Make new shitcoins, tell people to keep holding onto that bag because it'll definitely start going up again any day now, anyone who tries to discourage you just doesn't understand crypto, etc.

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

I know someone who lost a lot of money recklessly speculating in crypto and isnít allowed to handle money in their relationship anymore lol

bort
Mar 13, 2003

Haifisch posted:

It's gambling, so people tend to be loud about wins and quiet about losses.
Having done my share of gambling, this is super true, but with one corollary: one lucky break can hide a whole lot of terrible decisions.

hellotoothpaste
Dec 21, 2006

I dare you to call it a perm again..

Fruits of the sea posted:

I know a couple folks who cashed out but they are pretty quiet about it. Feels like the folks who talk a lot about their crypto earnings also have it all tied up in yet more crypto or some other side-hustle

This is the correct answer

Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

wiggly eyes!



The $20 or so that you might get is probably from a comprised account, so itíll eventually be clawed back by the bank and you might find yourself with some very unpleasant investigations while you prove you didnít steal it / werenít complicit in the scheme. Unless itís the crypto scheme where you are putting money into and withdrawing from their scheme.

Itís really, really not worth scam baiting. Just check r/scams on Reddit for people this has happened to.

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
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Haifisch posted:

It's gambling, so people tend to be loud about wins and quiet about losses.

At this point it making no sense outside of that context is a feature and not a bug, because it makes scamming easier in many ways. Make new shitcoins, tell people to keep holding onto that bag because it'll definitely start going up again any day now, anyone who tries to discourage you just doesn't understand crypto, etc.

Yup, it's gambling mixed with techbro arrogance.

See, it's not gambling1 because it's this new2 big shiny thing that's the future3! Totally different than granny gambling her last coin away on a slot machine4! And far smarter than finance5!

1Actually, it is
2Actually a few decades old
3Actually has no real-world applications that aren't done better by something else
4Actually it's the same
5Actually also gambling, only with the advantages of using inherited money and a legal/financial system tilted so that the rich keep winning.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.
Forgot about this one:

I've posted before about how modern job hunting is a scam ridden nightmare and the other day I saw a listing for well paying job at the USPS. Except the link doesn't take you to the USPS site but instead a third party one that's made to very much LOOK like the post office website. They charge an "application fee" that's supposedly refunded after you get the job and, yes, it's a scam.

Elissimpark
May 20, 2010

Bring me the head of Auguste Escoffier.


Got this the other day. The "dot site" made me giggle. Was colespoints.webpage taken?

Salt Fish
Sep 11, 2003

Cybernetic Crumb
Domain Name: COLESPOINTS.SITE
Registry Domain ID: D452497320-CNIC
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.gname.com
Registrar URL: https://www.gname.com/
Updated Date: 2024-05-05T13:03:21.0Z
Creation Date: 2024-05-05T12:53:09.0Z

Seems legit. It was registered in AU, so at least its not a misspelling of Khols.

edit: I reported them to cloudflare for whatever good that does.

Salt Fish fucked around with this message at 17:45 on May 7, 2024

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

the domain name cash grab is a real problem

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...
Yes, hello, I'm the entire .biz tld

BitAstronaut
Mar 7, 2024
My mom just tried to cancel her Fubo account and somehow ended up with this number (833) 326-0366. They somehow convinced her to go to her bank and transfer $550 through Zelle.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
🥷🐢😬



Well that seems to be the exact opposite of what she was hoping to achieve.

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...
To be fair, it's sports programming, so it probably feels natural that they would demand an arm and a leg just to close out the account (probably calling it an early termination fee)

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

Tunicate posted:

the domain name cash grab is a real problem

Volmarias posted:

Yes, hello, I'm the entire .biz tld
I worked in domain registration around the time when .biz and .info opened in 2001 and the sunrise period marketing for them was just disgusting. So much aggressive fear mongering aimed at small business owners who barely had any internet presence to begin with.

:supaburn: "REGISTER NOW OR SOMEONE WILL STEAL YOUR COMPANY NAME AND TURN IT INTO A PORN SITE!" :supaburn:

Guest2553
Aug 3, 2012


whitehouse.com pulled the trigger, it just took a couple decades to ensnare the oval office :smugdon:

Desert Bus
May 9, 2004

Take 1 tablet by mouth daily.
Someone somehow managed to get far enough into trying to steal my FB account that I got a text message with an auth code. Unfortunately for them I am very very banned from FB and Insta etc. and any and all attempts to re-activate my account just signals to FB to deny and block everything from that IP address.

Picked the wrong person to try and scam whoops.

Inceltown
Aug 6, 2019

lmao

bamhand
Apr 15, 2010

Desert Bus posted:

Someone somehow managed to get far enough into trying to steal my FB account that I got a text message with an auth code. Unfortunately for them I am very very banned from FB and Insta etc. and any and all attempts to re-activate my account just signals to FB to deny and block everything from that IP address.

Picked the wrong person to try and scam whoops.

Don't you have a criminal trial you should be busy attending?

Desert Bus
May 9, 2004

Take 1 tablet by mouth daily.

bamhand posted:

Don't you have a criminal trial you should be busy attending?

I got an email from CIDNET today telling me some rando criminal wants to talk to me, so maybe?

Just what have I been up to?

bamhand
Apr 15, 2010
Paying off pornstars, racketeering, election tampering, mishandling secret documents. It's a pretty long list.

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

When this has all been gone through I firmly believe weíll find out he sold those documents. I can see any future president trying to keep this fact under wraps.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

Desert Bus posted:

Someone somehow managed to get far enough into trying to steal my FB account that I got a text message with an auth code. Unfortunately for them I am very very banned from FB and Insta etc. and any and all attempts to re-activate my account just signals to FB to deny and block everything from that IP address.

Picked the wrong person to try and scam whoops.

That sucks and also rules.

Not sure what's going on, but the amount of phishing bullshit and what not I've been getting lately has really increased.

poo poo is a god damned arms race, I loving swear.

wizard2
Apr 4, 2022

BiggerBoat posted:

That sucks and also rules.

Not sure what's going on, but the amount of phishing bullshit and what not I've been getting lately has really increased.

poo poo is a god damned arms race, I loving swear.

according to Facebook Support, a number of my friends and relatives are indeed very much back from beyond the grave to post about crypto and AI scams! hallelujah! :peanut:

Blue Footed Booby
Oct 4, 2006

got those happy feet

BiggerBoat posted:

That sucks and also rules.

Not sure what's going on, but the amount of phishing bullshit and what not I've been getting lately has really increased.

poo poo is a god damned arms race, I loving swear.

It's absolutely an arms race. Someone invents a new scheme, and it takes spam filters and such a while to notice.

For months I'd get a notification every couple weeks about someone wanting to share a PDF with me on google docs. I have no idea if Google plugged that hole or the guy running that scam got hit by a train. Maybe both. Hopefully both.

Bloopsy
Jun 1, 2006

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BiggerBoat posted:


Not sure what's going on, but the amount of phishing bullshit and what not I've been getting lately has really increased.

poo poo is a god damned arms race, I loving swear.

Iíve gotten a Microsoft account password reset request every single day for the last 2 months or so. Got the Facebook one a couple times but those I did appreciate because it reminded me to just delete my deactivated account.

Neito
Feb 18, 2009

😌Finally, an avatar the describes my love of tech❤️‍💻, my love of anime💖🎎, and why I'll never see a real girl 🙆‍♀️naked😭.

I get he fb one often and the ms one multiple times a day. Itís gross and sad.

maxwellhill
Jan 5, 2022
Are you friends with gross and sad?

Nuevo
May 23, 2006

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Fun Shoe

Blue Footed Booby posted:

For months I'd get a notification every couple weeks about someone wanting to share a PDF with me on google docs. I have no idea if Google plugged that hole or the guy running that scam got hit by a train. Maybe both. Hopefully both.

Randos can still share docs with you, and I get one every so often, but Google has at least gotten good at deleting the mass spam ones immediately. Every time I go to see what kind of BS it is it's already gone within seconds of receiving the notification :shrug:

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Pekinduck
May 10, 2008

Volmarias posted:

Yes, hello, I'm the entire .biz tld

IIRC this was a big fuckup when they introduced .biz and .info. They priced them lower than .com to encourage use. Since they were a bit cheaper scammers, spammers and other cruft used them for their throwaway domains. Users began to associate the domains with scammers and spammers so no legitimate businesses would touch them.

Volmarias posted:

To be fair, it's sports programming, so it probably feels natural that they would demand an arm and a leg just to close out the account (probably calling it an early termination fee)

I tried a free trial with NFL Network and had what I'd describe as a "benign-boomer" experience. I couldn't get the streams to play. I tried the tech support chat: "did you try the troubleshooting steps?" (the page with things like: reboot your computer, disable your antivirus) "yup, nothing worked though" "I'm very sorry, it just doesn't work for some people. We'll cancel your account and you won't be billed." Multi-billion enterprise lol.

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