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mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007


Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952





BiggerBoat posted:

Thank for this. That worked.

A little off topic, but what are some really good scam/rip off movies?


The Big Short, for a scam that almost destroyed the US economy.
Dirty Rotten Scoundrels, both versions.

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ChocNitty
Aug 3, 2011


A lot of city kids are going to the suburbs to scam people with these coupon cards that supposedly give big discounts on local businesses, like unlimited two for ones. Asking $20 for these plastic cards, claiming its a school fundraiser. I overheard one reasonable person asking to see the kids student ID, and of course he gave a BS excuse.

therobit
Aug 19, 2008


ChocNitty posted:

A lot of city kids are going to the suburbs to scam people with these coupon cards that supposedly give big discounts on local businesses, like unlimited two for ones. Asking $20 for these plastic cards, claiming its a school fundraiser. I overheard one reasonable person asking to see the kids student ID, and of course he gave a BS excuse.

Those cards are probably legit. They sell the same type of thing in my area and the only real problem is that you are probably not going to use it enough to make it worth it.

Ther old ladies on Nextdoor think every person selling something is trying to scam them.

MisterOblivious
Mar 17, 2010


ChocNitty posted:

A lot of city kids are going to the suburbs to scam people with these coupon cards that supposedly give big discounts on local businesses, like unlimited two for ones. Asking $20 for these plastic cards, claiming its a school fundraiser. I overheard one reasonable person asking to see the kids student ID, and of course he gave a BS excuse.

You've never hear of fundraisers selling coupon books before?

MightyJoe36
Dec 29, 2013

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:


therobit posted:

Those cards are probably legit. They sell the same type of thing in my area and the only real problem is that you are probably not going to use it enough to make it worth it.


This was the case with those coupon books they were selling when my kids were in school.

Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018


ChocNitty posted:

A lot of city kids are going to the suburbs to scam people with these coupon cards that supposedly give big discounts on local businesses, like unlimited two for ones. Asking $20 for these plastic cards, claiming its a school fundraiser. I overheard one reasonable person asking to see the kids student ID, and of course he gave a BS excuse.

"city kids" :raise:

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

Get into shit, let it out like diarrhea
Got burnt once, that was only gonorrhea




Captain Monkey
Aug 23, 2007



https://mobile.twitter.com/willsommer/status/1064875576035561472?s=19

Tunicate
May 15, 2012





ChocNitty posted:

A lot of city kids are going to the suburbs to scam people with these coupon cards that supposedly give big discounts on local businesses, like unlimited two for ones. Asking $20 for these plastic cards, claiming its a school fundraiser. I overheard one reasonable person asking to see the kids student ID, and of course he gave a BS excuse.

They had legit ones in my city, they were really quite good deals.

So good that no businesses signed up to do it the next year.

BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

Taste the High Country


Tunicate posted:

They had legit ones in my city, they were really quite good deals.

So good that no businesses signed up to do it the next year.

My football team sold those one year for fundraising, we managed to sell enough to bankrupt not one but two Dairy Queen franchises.

Next year we sold water softener salt, which somehow made us more money then the cards.

BigDave fucked around with this message at 21:11 on Nov 20, 2018

DizzyBum
Apr 16, 2007




I bought a coupon book a few years ago from a pre-med student going door-to-door doing fundraising. I thumbed through it and saw enough places we'd normally visit that it was worth the $20 or so we spent.

gaj70 posted:

That doesn't make any sense. The word "become" implies a change in state

And the dictionaries agree:

become verb
be∑​come | \bi-ˈkəm,
bē-\
became\ bi-​ˈkām ,
bē-​ \; become; becoming
Definition of become

intransitive verb

1a : to come into existence

b : to come to be become sick They both became teachers.

2 : to undergo change or development The pain was becoming more intense.

I have become uninterested in your posting.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012





The real trick for the coupon books is for vacations - if you're gonna be spending a couple weeks somewhere, buy the book, and now you have a handy list of local nonchain places, with abridged menus and coupons.

I mean yeah you could try to fight through yelp for recommendations i guess, but the coupon book works better IME, and actually saves money.

nishi koichi
Feb 16, 2007

everyone feels that way and gives up.
that's how they get away with it.



barkbarkbark bark awooo

MightyJoe36
Dec 29, 2013

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:


First time since I worked in a gas station 40 years ago, it happened to me last night.

Pull into the Shell station on the way home from work for a couple of tall boys. On my way out the door, there's a 1980s vintage pedo van pulled up to the pump with a sketchy looking dude reaching into the side door. As I walk by:

"Yo man, I got some T-bones?"

"Excuse me?"

"Want some T-bones?"

"No thanks, I'm good."

Guess the van-meat thing is still going strong.

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

-=SEND HELP=-




Pillbug

I still can't help but wonder who ever is buying cheap steaks of questionable origin from a predator van. It must work on somebody as it keeps coming up but really.

cakesmith handyman
Jul 22, 2007

Pip-Pip old chap! Last one in is a rotten egg what what.



It's the same van, possibly even the same steaks...

AlbieQuirky
Oct 9, 2012



ToxicSlurpee posted:

I still can't help but wonder who ever is buying cheap steaks of questionable origin from a predator van. It must work on somebody as it keeps coming up but really.

A friend's father buys them. Also cryptocurrency. Also a hydrolyzer for his car.

Corsair Pool Boy
Dec 17, 2004

by Cyrano4747


College Slice

ToxicSlurpee posted:

I still can't help but wonder who ever is buying cheap steaks of questionable origin from a predator van. It must work on somebody as it keeps coming up but really.

I had two guys show up at my place on Saturday, just going door-to-door selling meat. One of them was hiding around the corner until after I opened the door. Nothing sketchy about that at all...

Don Gato
Apr 28, 2013

Actually a bipedal cat.

Grimey Drawer

cakesmith handyman posted:

It's the same van, possibly even the same steaks...

Chinese border police did find people trying to smuggle in millions of dollars worth of 40 year old meat a couple of years ago

Captain Monkey
Aug 23, 2007



Was driving a couple days ago and some guys in a van signal for me to roll down my window. I do, and they immediately ask if I want to buy a TV for a discount. When I say no, they offer to sell me some porn DVD's. I say have a no thanks, have a nice day, roll my window up and drive off.

It was surreal. Who gets harassed into buying a tv? Who buys porn DVD's from strangers off the street? It was ridiculous.

My PIN is 4826
Aug 30, 2003



Captain Monkey posted:

Who buys DVD's

Captain Monkey posted:

Who buys porn

These are also valid questions

Original_Z
Jun 14, 2005
Z so good


As the article mentions, this has been around for forever and predates trump by quite a bit, at the very least since the Iraq war days where people thought that once weíd win the war then the money would go up in value and idiots would pit their savings into useless Iraqi currency. Iím not sure whey they even bother with the trump angle since itís just clearly some idiot with issues buying currency for no reason.

Original_Z fucked around with this message at 13:48 on Nov 23, 2018

Guest2553
Aug 3, 2012


Original_Z posted:

Iím not sure whey they even bother with the trump angle since itís just clearly some idiot with issues buying currency for no reason.

Yes, why deliberately target a segment that is both terminally gullible and incapable of feeling cognitive dissonance? :thunk: gently caress scammers, but trash taking out trash this time around.

DizzyBum
Apr 16, 2007




Saw a post on r/bestoflegaladvice today and thought of this thread. Here's the original post:

https://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/a027o7/i_cashed_a_fraudulent_check_and_now_the_bank_is/

quote:

I was selling an item($800) on Craigslist and a buyer wanted to pay via check. He sent me a check in the mail but it was for much more than what the item was worth($3,000). He said it was a mistake that his assistant made and to wire me back $2000 and keep an extra $200 for my trouble and he would send a shipping company to come pick up my item.

I cashed the check via mobile deposit so a teller didn't get to actually hold the check or anything but it cleared my bank in one business day and I wired him $2,000. He said he would be sending a shipping company out within the next couple days. I hadn't heard from him in a week so I thought the shipping company messed up, whatever. Then I get a call from my bank saying the check deposited bounced and they took the whole $3,000 back!

They informed me I got scammed via a check scam and there was nothing they could do. They said I'm responsible for paying them back when all I did was cash a check! How is it my fault that the bank cleared the entire amount of a $3,000 check without even verifying the funds?! This is insane!

Is there any recourse here?

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

I'm the babyliberal, gotta love me!


DizzyBum posted:

Saw a post on r/bestoflegaladvice today and thought of this thread. Here's the original post:

https://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/a027o7/i_cashed_a_fraudulent_check_and_now_the_bank_is/

I think you should be required to get some kind of license before you deposit a check, people clearly do not understand who is obliged to do what in that scenario.

roffels
Jul 27, 2004

Yo Taxi!

ToxicSlurpee posted:

I still can't help but wonder who ever is buying cheap steaks of questionable origin from a predator van. It must work on somebody as it keeps coming up but really.

I had this conversation with someone, he said because he was poor, and sometimes he just wanted a steak.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

I'm sorry, everyone.

DizzyBum posted:

Saw a post on r/bestoflegaladvice today and thought of this thread. Here's the original post:

https://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/a027o7/i_cashed_a_fraudulent_check_and_now_the_bank_is/

This one's really old, isn't it?

Namarrgon
Dec 23, 2008

Congratulations on not getting fit in 2011!

BiggerBoat posted:

This one's really old, isn't it?

Just a little bit younger than a day.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

I'm sorry, everyone.

Namarrgon posted:

Just a little bit younger than a day.

I meant the scam itself not when it happened.

Depressio111117
Oct 18, 2014

A whole world of imagination beyond the oompah band.

Namarrgon posted:

Just a little bit younger than a day.

I think he means itís an old scam.

edit: dammit

DizzyBum
Apr 16, 2007




Yep, the wire check fraud is an old one at this point. It's one of the most common Craigslist scams, so much so that it's on their page reviewing how to avoid common scams.

Mister Kingdom
Dec 14, 2005

And the tears that fall
On the city wall
Will fade away
With the rays of morning light

ToxicSlurpee posted:

I still can't help but wonder who ever is buying cheap steaks of questionable origin from a predator van. It must work on somebody as it keeps coming up but really.

Yesterday, I saw someone set up in the parking lot of a business selling steaks. They had banners and a tent. I wonder how this was any more legit than predator van guy.

AlbieQuirky
Oct 9, 2012



Absurd Alhazred posted:

I think you should be required to get some kind of license before you deposit a check, people clearly do not understand who is obliged to do what in that scenario.

In the tiny bank my father used, they had signs about this up at the teller counter.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012





The problem isn't the end users, the problem is that checks are a fundamentally broken system.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

I'm the babyliberal, gotta love me!


Tunicate posted:

The problem isn't the end users, the problem is that checks are a fundamentally broken system.

That's fair, further reading of the responses to that thread made me realize that Federal law is why they are obligated to presume that the check will clear before they actually confirm that it's there. Instead of pushing them to use a system that would actually clear/deny it within that timeframe, because that's evil Big Government or whatever.

iajanus
Aug 17, 2004

#GOAT


Tunicate posted:

The problem isn't the end users, the problem is that checks are a fundamentally broken system.

There's a reason that in first world countries we stopped using them over a decade ago (bank cheques excepted).

Don Gato
Apr 28, 2013

Actually a bipedal cat.

Grimey Drawer

iajanus posted:

There's a reason that in first world countries we stopped using them over a decade ago (bank cheques excepted).

Even in America I can count on one hand the amount of checks I've written. I wrote my first check at 27 and it was only because my debit card was stolen and my new one hadn't arrived yet.

iajanus
Aug 17, 2004

#GOAT


Don Gato posted:

Even in America I can count on one hand the amount of checks I've written. I wrote my first check at 27 and it was only because my debit card was stolen and my new one hadn't arrived yet.

So up to five times more than you should ever have to.

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

-=SEND HELP=-




Pillbug

iajanus posted:

So up to five times more than you should ever have to.

Sometimes a check can just legitimately be a better option because :911: is going to :911:

I pay my rent with a check as it only became possible to pay online rather recently. It costs something like $50 extra to pay online because gently caress you. I of course still pay with a check. I pay my electric bill with a check as well as their website is horrible and tends to not work.

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Thanatosian
Apr 16, 2013

Angrier, Bitterer Man


Grimey Drawer

ToxicSlurpee posted:

Sometimes a check can just legitimately be a better option because :911: is going to :911:

I pay my rent with a check as it only became possible to pay online rather recently. It costs something like $50 extra to pay online because gently caress you. I of course still pay with a check. I pay my electric bill with a check as well as their website is horrible and tends to not work.

I suck up the fact that I'm paying, like, $5 a month extra for utilities to not have to deal with mailing a check. Until a few months ago, I was having to write checks to pay rent, too. Thankfully, they started taking ACH without a fee recently; @ToxicSlurpee, are you sure that fee applies if you're using direct debit from your bank account, and not just if you pay with a credit card?

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