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So what is Lucas Hood's real name anyway?
Ace O'Riordan
Dennis Mitchell
Guggenheim McFrankenbutt
Hood Lucas
Norman Krasner
This poll is stupid and undermines the thematic point being made by keeping Lucas Hood's real name a secret.
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



VagueRant posted:

[*]She seemed legitimately sad when the comedians revealed their observation about how Hood and Ana/Carrie's genes made a strong interesting burgeoning criminal daughter, but Gordon's weak rear end genes made a forgettable asthmatic problem boy. (She also said the show couldn't kill the son off because it would ruin Carrie and Gordon's characters too much.)

It was a fair observation to make before the writers made Gordon into a badass :rip:

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GobiasIndustries
Dec 14, 2007

Lipstick Apathy
Let's get hyped for tomorrow!

S04E07: Truths Other Than the Ones You Tell Yourself

Overview:
Fearing for Dawson’s safety, Lucas and Brock ramp up their efforts to hunt down Bode. With the Brotherhood poised to go to war with Proctor, Kurt looks to keep Maggie safe while Calvin takes out his frustrations at the office. Job settles a score with Leo Fitzpatrick, a Camp Genoa adversary.

If any crazy poo poo is going to happen this season, it's gonna be here and/or next Friday. Tons of plot lines that need resolution, characters that need to clash, and a season that, from many viewers' perspectives, needs to stick the landing to live up to the insane first three seasons.

cvnvcnv
Mar 17, 2013

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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:

It was a fair observation to make before the writers made Gordon into a badass :rip:

Not really. Gordon was always a good man who kept his nose down and went toe-to-toe with all the pieces of poo poo he came across. That he did it legitimately, and constantly was making the hard, mature decisions where he had every reason to lose himself, only makes the contrast with a psychopath with severe mental and emotional damage all the more stark but to consider him weak next to Hood says outstandingly more about the observer than Gordon.

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



GobiasIndustries posted:

Let's get hyped for tomorrow!

S04E07: Truths Other Than the Ones You Tell Yourself

Overview:
Fearing for Dawson’s safety, Lucas and Brock ramp up their efforts to hunt down Bode. With the Brotherhood poised to go to war with Proctor, Kurt looks to keep Maggie safe while Calvin takes out his frustrations at the office. Job settles a score with Leo Fitzpatrick, a Camp Genoa adversary.

If any crazy poo poo is going to happen this season, it's gonna be here and/or next Friday. Tons of plot lines that need resolution, characters that need to clash, and a season that, from many viewers' perspectives, needs to stick the landing to live up to the insane first three seasons.

That final plot point in the summary :flashfap:

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



No final showdown between Carrie and lady deputy :(

:barf: the Carrie reveal that she still loves Hood. Way to make the shittiest s2 ep even shittier by having it mean nothing. The scene with Hood confessing to Brock was great though.

Job is back :neckbeard: I want to find a better picture of that crazy cat shirt he was wearing. Also a high res image of that background on Leo's computer.

Calvin is losing his poo poo.

Crusty Nutsack
Apr 21, 2005

SUCK LASER, COPPERS


Wow that was pure poo poo. So disappointed in this season and it's only gotten worse.

So that was the end of the who killed Rebecca thing? That little fizzle? All loving season built up to that?

And couldn't even see pointdexter (I always forget his name) kill all those nazis.

And Brock was sooo surprised that Hood wasn't Hood and was a criminal? He's the one from the beginning that always doubted who he was. He's seen his badassness. I mean come on.

Job getting revenge is GREAT, but it just came out of the blue like huh? A random scene stuck in between serial killer stuff and FBI McTits breaking down because she needed to get high or whatever.

Pure poo poo. Looks like our finale will be just as bad if it's anything like this ep.

Ubiquitous_
Nov 20, 2013

by Reene
This is going to be one awesome finale, and it's going to make up for any dragging in the plot this season for sure. Banshee is about to go out with a bang, or several hundred of them.

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



Ubiquitous_ posted:

This is going to be one awesome finale, and it's going to make up for any dragging in the plot this season for sure. Banshee is about to go out with a bang, or several hundred of them.

Or the camera could slowly pan around and not show anything :v:

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
They basically had no budget this season, right?

Ubiquitous_
Nov 20, 2013

by Reene

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:

Or the camera could slowly pan around and not show anything :v:

Yeah... though at least we got a taste of Burton violence in S3. They may have saved all of their budget for the last episode. The lack of it really showed, though.

bee
Dec 17, 2008


Do you often sing or whistle just for fun?
Apart from that scene with Job, this episode was boring as gently caress. Not getting to see evil smithers destroy those nazis was deeply unsatisfying.

This whole season has been disappointing, which is a real shame considering how the past seasons had me on the edge of my seat the whole time.

Disgusting Coward
Feb 17, 2014
The only thing that will satiate me now is if that lame Satanist dude turns out to actually be Satan and it ends up with Hood, Proctor and Lotus fighting him on top of a burning train that is driving directly into Hell, and inside the train is a gargantuan gangsters vs. Hood Gang vs. cops vs. Nazis vs. Satanists vs. Cartel vs. Amish Royal Rumble and the entire budget is burnt up in one 30 minute orgy of violence.

And then as the train goes into the void, Deva appears on-screen and goes:

"Actually I killed Rebecca. Disgusting Coward is right about everything."

VagueRant
May 24, 2012
Wow, shocked y'all are so disappointed. I thought that was the best ep of season 4, some classic Banshee right there.

We got Kai being ridiculous and beating his poor tortured henchman to death for the shame of being robbed by a guy called Calvin.
We got Burton being a badass.
We got Calvin being pathetic AND crazy. Walking shirtless through the office covered in blood and swastikas like that. God, can't wait for him to brutally die.
We got some scenes of actual tension and a good breakdown for the satanists. Even Eliza Dushku got to do some stuff despite being tied up for most of the episode.
We got Hood and Brock having a GREAT and satisfying and emotional scene with quality characterisation.
We got Job and Sugar being all Job and Sugar.
We got Job finally being full on fabulous again.
We got to see Leo get his comeuppance in a legit clever, unpredictable and satisfying way.
We got some good fight scenes.

That was Banshee as hell, guys.

My only questions are 1) is it just me or would Hood's leglock (does that count as a triangle?) have totally not strangled the evil doctor? 2) what the gently caress was with the lingering shot on the satanist corpse at the very end? I was expecting the eyes to open and the show to go full on supernatural and actually end with that fight between Hood and The Actual Satan as one goon prophecised.

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:

No final showdown between Carrie and lady deputy :(

:barf: the Carrie reveal that she still loves Hood. Way to make the shittiest s2 ep even shittier by having it mean nothing. The scene with Hood confessing to Brock was great though.
Yeahhhhh, Cruz getting mysteriously shower-murdered by Burton for no reason was probably my biggest complaint with the episode. Wonder if that's setting up something, or just the sudden end to the plotline. Seems like Carrie and co. should've just shot her last time if so.

Yeahhhh, Carrie and Hood both having revelations about how much they care about each other was a bit...ugh. I thought they said the show was not going that way.

Crusty Nutsack posted:

So that was the end of the who killed Rebecca thing? That little fizzle? All loving season built up to that?

And couldn't even see pointdexter (I always forget his name) kill all those nazis.

And Brock was sooo surprised that Hood wasn't Hood and was a criminal? He's the one from the beginning that always doubted who he was. He's seen his badassness. I mean come on.

Job getting revenge is GREAT, but it just came out of the blue like huh? A random scene stuck in between serial killer stuff and FBI McTits breaking down because she needed to get high or whatever.
I think it's pretty much certain that the satanists DIDN'T kill Rebecca. There's literally nothing tying them to her, other than the way she was killed, and the show conveniently killed anyone who would know. I think the mystery still lingers. Burton and Deva are the top of my suspect list.

It was a bit of a shame we didn't get to see Burton in action, but I thought the shot was cool enough anyway. It's not like there would've been much tension to actually show him beating them down.

Brock's surprise made sense to me. It's one thing for Hood to be a criminal, but a guy who served fifteen years being the boss of a straight-arrow cop?

Did you want lots of boring scenes of Job typing at a keyboard talking about how "we have to find Leo"? They did it in the most Banshee way possible. They used the Leo thing as a capstone to the subplot they've been building up of Job's slow recovery, that was the big "he's back" moment, and they didn't waste their time.

...!
Oct 5, 2003

I think Rebecca's death was an elaborate suicide.

GobiasIndustries
Dec 14, 2007

Lipstick Apathy
I'm almost positive that there's more to Rebecca's death and I'm guessing it was Burton or Cruz. Given Deva's reaction to the break-in and shooting that guy I'd be surprised if it was her.

Na'at
May 5, 2003

You need chaos in your soul to give birth to a dancing star
Lipstick Apathy

GobiasIndustries posted:

Given Deva's reaction to the break-in and shooting that guy I'd be surprised if it was her.

Yeah I don't get where all the Deva suspicion comes from either. That wasn't the way someone who'd cleaved the beating heart from a woman's chest would act at all.

...!
Oct 5, 2003

Predicting the final episode opens with Burton murdering Deva to get back at Carrie, not realizing she's Hood's daughter. Shitstorm ensues wherein literally every character except Hood and Carrie dies. Then Hood and Carrie blame each other for not protecting Deva and shoot each other in the face. Then Job's computer catches fire and burns the entire town (including the Amish and Indian areas) to the ground.

Banshee!

Zorak of Michigan
Jun 10, 2006

I never thought it would be Hood vs Satan. I briefly wondered if the Satanist was going to get his comeuppance when they revealed that Hood was the devil, though.

isaboo
Nov 10, 2002

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Satanist dude sure looks an awful lot like Dennis Reynolds

VagueRant
May 24, 2012

Zorak of Michigan posted:

I never thought it would be Hood vs Satan. I briefly wondered if the Satanist was going to get his comeuppance when they revealed that Hood was the devil, though.
Oh that's even better. Have like a shot where there's a fire behind him...Finale is the Fallen Angel versus God.

...! posted:

Predicting the final episode opens with Burton murdering Deva to get back at Carrie, not realizing she's Hood's daughter. Shitstorm ensues wherein literally every character except Hood and Carrie dies. Then Hood and Carrie blame each other for not protecting Deva and shoot each other in the face. Then Job's computer catches fire and burns the entire town (including the Amish and Indian areas) to the ground.

Banshee!
Honestly, that would be really cool and fine with the show.

Except I would bet that whatever happens in the finale, Hood survives and walks away from the town. He's the Man With No Name, after all. (If anything, I'm worried everyone will survive...)

GobiasIndustries posted:

I'm almost positive that there's more to Rebecca's death and I'm guessing it was Burton or Cruz. Given Deva's reaction to the break-in and shooting that guy I'd be surprised if it was her.
That's a really good point. I think some of it for me goes back to that weird episode where Rebecca kinda raped Hood and there was a shot of Dava turning up at the cabin or something? Maybe the implication was just that they at least talked during the time skip, but I really thought there was going to be a reveal there.

To be honest, I never really suspected Burton until I was trying to figure out why he murdered Cruz this episode...

PaybackJack
May 21, 2003

You'll hit your head and say: 'Boy, how stupid could I have been. A moron could've figured this out. I must be a real dimwit. A pathetic nimnal. A wretched idiotic excuse for a human being for not having figured these simple puzzles out in the first place...As usual, you've been a real pantload!
What a poo poo episode. I'm finally at the point where I'm glad this show is ending so I don't have to watch anymore. There was potential for a good last season but it was just wasted with a bunch of dumb stuff that is pointless.

I literally had a laugh at Hood telling Brock he's an infiltration specialist after getting hit from behind by an untrained doctor and put into handcuffs that he can't escape from.

Action was bad, and in some cases non-existant. They conveniently didn't actually tell us that the Satanist killed Rebecca, which means he probably didn't and his accomplice will let everyone know that next week. Or maybe they realized by this point that nobody cares and they just dropped the story figuring her getting killed by random Satanists was the best exit for her character. I'm also guessing Burton maybe because he thought Rebecca was making Kai soft and needed to get the old Kai back or something.

Killing Cruz was another dumb choice and waste of a good fight later.

I hope this means Eliza Dushku can leave the show and stop ruining good moments with terrible acting.

Mq
Jul 7, 2005
Lazy fat bastard
I didn't think it was bad but I am disappointed because I was hoping it would turn that everyone but the principal characters were satanists and finale would be like the end from Hot Fuzz with giant brawl between good guys and everyone in town.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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Amish Satanists is something I didn't know I wanted in an action show, but now I'm disappointed that we're not gonna get them.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

The cabin is way the gently caress out and Rebecca was grabbed there. The Satanists are opportunists, because they don't care who they kill. It wasn't them.

red19fire
May 26, 2010

VagueRant posted:

Except I would bet that whatever happens in the finale, Hood survives and walks away from the town. He's the Man With No Name, after all. (If anything, I'm worried everyone will survive...)

I'm hoping Hood will finally take down Kai for good, cleanse Banshee of its major crime figures, then let Brock take the credit as an act of redemption and walk out of town.

I figured Burton was going to kill off Cruz after botching the Carrie hit, but I figured it would be more like finishing off a wounded deer after getting clipped by Job or something like that. Not just Burton showing up in your shower.

Wandle Cax
Dec 15, 2006
Good episode. A bit slow paced for the penultimate episode of the series, but everything is set in place for the finale so hopefully it delivers. Great scenes with Hood and Brock. Working together, then the brilliant confession scene reflective of the whole series. And Job is back. Definitely sad that there's only one ep left.

Pron on VHS
Nov 14, 2005

Blood Clots
Sweat Dries
Bones Heal
Suck it Up and Keep Wrestling
Brocks acting was sooooo bad in the Hood revelation scene. The way he kept twisting his head around going "no, no...it can't be" was super loving lame and I was loling

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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I'm not digging this last season. I have faith that everything is going to go crazy in the last episode though, and it's not so bad that a good finale can't save it. Still, I wish the entire final season was just about getting Job back and knocking off Proctor/Nazis. The Satanists seemed like such a waste of time and wasn't at all interesting.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

red19fire posted:

I'm hoping Hood will finally take down Kai for good, cleanse Banshee of its major crime figures, then let Brock take the credit as an act of redemption and walk out of town.

I figured Burton was going to kill off Cruz after botching the Carrie hit, but I figured it would be more like finishing off a wounded deer after getting clipped by Job or something like that. Not just Burton showing up in your shower.

They wouldn't get a nude scene if it wasn't in the shower.

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
Fun Shoe

Aphrodite posted:

The cabin is way the gently caress out and Rebecca was grabbed there. The Satanists are opportunists, because they don't care who they kill. It wasn't them.

I could see it being Calvin in one of his crazy moments to throw Proctor for a loop before loving him over by taking control of the Nazis.

Amy Pole Her
Jun 17, 2002
Yeah I definitely have been let down by this season but a strong series finale is almost necessary to pay this show the respect it deserves. Seasons 1-3 are simply fun television

Daktari
May 30, 2006

As men in rage strike those that wish them best,

AAA DOLFAN posted:

Yeah I definitely have been let down by this season but a strong series finale is almost necessary to pay this show the respect it deserves. Seasons 1-3 are simply fun television

Yeah I'm rewatching the series now (why haven't I done so earlier?), and it's great all around

10 Beers
May 21, 2005

Shit! I didn't bring a knife.

red19fire posted:

I figured Burton was going to kill off Cruz after botching the Carrie hit, but I figured it would be more like finishing off a wounded deer after getting clipped by Job or something like that. Not just Burton showing up in your shower.
Yeah, I figured that Proctor sent Burton to finish off Cruz because she hosed up killing Carrie.

I mean, this is the same guy that beat an already beaten and tortured man to death in the back of a semi, so it wouldn't be a stretch.

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

10 Beers posted:

Yeah, I figured that Proctor sent Burton to finish off Cruz because she hosed up killing Carrie.

I mean, this is the same guy that beat an already beaten and tortured man to death in the back of a semi, so it wouldn't be a stretch.

I figure it's probably also a matter of tying up loose ends. They don't know exactly what kind of evidence the police has about the raid on Carrie's house, so by killing her now they lower the chance that the whole thing is traced back to her, and from there on back to Proctor.

Solice Kirsk posted:

I'm not digging this last season. I have faith that everything is going to go crazy in the last episode though, and it's not so bad that a good finale can't save it. Still, I wish the entire final season was just about getting Job back and knocking off Proctor/Nazis. The Satanists seemed like such a waste of time and wasn't at all interesting.

Yeah, the whole subplot around the satanists could have worked so much better confined to just a single episode, if it had to be included at all. Set them up as the most apparent (but false) lead, and compress Hood/FBI lady going after them and getting captured into a single sequence. That way horns guy could have been a somewhat interesting/memorable tertiary antagonist for Hood to ruin in an inventive way, like that MMA guy in season one. Then they'd have set up some breathing room to do some of the other stuff, and from there on could have revealed that Rebecca's actual killer was still out there in a stinger that would have lead nicely into the big final confrontation between everyone.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Hood should have jammed 2 broken halves of the pool cue into his head. Give him real horns.

Gaunab
Feb 13, 2012
LUFTHANSA YOU FUCKING DICKWEASEL
I love Job so much. I wish he would get a spin-off series after Banshee.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
I felt like Hood and Brock taking down the Satanist should have been way more brutal.

Also Bode looked a lot like Matt Smith in this episode.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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I don't know why but I'm amped about this last episode. I just feel like its going to be a solid hour of crazy violence and probably some heartbreak. Like the finale of Spartacus, only in Pennsylvania.

VagueRant
May 24, 2012
The preview has me unhyped.

I'm just really worried they're going to be too scared to kill off major characters or change any status quo beyond Hood inevitably leaving.

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GobiasIndustries
Dec 14, 2007

Lipstick Apathy
I'd be happy with just one fight that was choreographed as well as some of the stuff from the previous seasons.

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