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Hollismason posted:I think that Samaritan kind of hosed up because all it really did was give Shaw 7000 simulations of how to murder/escape/cause havoc. So basically she's just been in a prison escape and murder simulator for a full year. That's kind of crazy. Oh-ho, a year? Let's say the average simulation was 2.5 days and she ran 7,000 simulations flat. That's 17,500 days, or, ~50 years. Shaw should be insane and also the Lance Armstrong of killing.
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May 25, 2016 15:11
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May 25, 2016 15:27
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Been too long since Bear got to show off, so that was a nice moment. Also seriously showing how ridiculously powerful an ASI with unlimited access is. What is it now, all modern computer/phone devices, DNA database for a good chunk of the US. I'm guessing it's planning on causing a catastrophic event so humanity turns to it to 'protect us from ourselves'. By this point I'd have expected Fusco to have been read in, less of the repeated 'the machine loses every simulation against Samaritan' and at least some more involved Root vs Finch 'we need to unlock the machine so it can fight for herself' arguments. With 5 episodes to go they're going to have to cram a lot in, especially as they're still doing the numbers, though i'll guess that will stop for the last two. Alas I doubt the last scene will be Bear biting through Samaritan's power cable and then heading off for the Bear & Sameen spin off series, together they fight crime and eat junk food. PST fucked around with this message at 15:55 on May 25, 2016 |
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Accretionist posted:Oh-ho, a year? Let's say the average simulation was 2.5 days and she ran 7,000 simulations flat. She was before the simulations started.
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PST posted:Been too long since Bear got to show off, so that was a nice moment. Every deity needs a good calamity.
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May 25, 2016 15:53
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PST posted:Been too long since Bear got to show off, so that was a nice moment. Or simply figuring out a way to get humanity down to a more 'manageable' level.
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Person of Interest: Stripper Security - We're wherever people need us to be
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JossiRossi posted:I can understand them not wanting to tell Fusco. It is the difference between him bumbling into danger, and having a crosshair on his forehead. Samaritan has been very good at working out if someone knows about it. I don't know, at this point he's just actively walking into/investigating Samaritan stuff and he's at risk to get assassinated without Team Machine even knowing what is going on since they've alienated him so much. If they'd just take him down in the subway and read him in on what is going on, he could keep up his cop cover same as John is doing and bring any Samaritan related stuff to the team rather than getting his fingers all in it alone. Like it made sense to keep him in the dark up until now, but once he's basically investigating Samaritan and divorcing himself from the group, it's probably time to bring him in. override367 posted:The audio app fusco used is obviously created by Samaritan explaining it's whiz bang magical capabilities, just like every other piece of consumer software in the POI universe at this point This is basically what I assumed, especially since the title bar had it listed as some sort of special NYPD program. Seems like a Samaritan thing dumbed down to be point and click for the cops (and probably letting Samaritan listen in). I just got caught up last night in a marathon from episode 4 to current, and man this show is good  I missed Shaw.
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Accretionist posted:Oh-ho, a year? Let's say the average simulation was 2.5 days and she ran 7,000 simulations flat. The simulations don't really work timewise unless they're under Inception rules where they're time accelerated from the person's point of view.
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I'm worried. In that last Samaritan POV shot of Shaw going to the jeep, her tracking halo was clear with no red triangle or crosshair. This escape isn't considered "deviant."
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Nameless Pete posted:I'm worried. In that last Samaritan POV shot of Shaw going to the jeep, her tracking halo was clear with no red triangle or crosshair. This escape isn't considered "deviant." I guess it's because she hasn't figured out that she's not in a simulation yet?
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Okay, let's nip this in the bud before we start losing our minds. Shaw has escaped. For real. Samaritan didn't identify her on her way out the door because it didn't have a clear view of her skull, much less her face -- she wore a thick army helmet that disguised her from the cameras. Go look at the episode again, or better yet, That's one quick shot to establish that Samaritan didn't have a clear visual of Shaw walking out the door. Why not five? Because it's a one-hour show and the name of the game is "movement." Also, we know she's not in a simulation because when she turned on the radio, a news report recapped the events of the episode. A Samaritan simulation wouldn't bother with that because why the gently caress should it? That would mean fewer resources devoted to convincing Shaw to turn on her friends. Now, Shaw probably can't be sure she's still in a simulation, and despite the fatalistic attitude that allowed her to gloriously gently caress Lambert in the end, that may still come up as a point of drama. Nor can we assume that Team Samaritan has no Plan B in case Shaw escapes, however hard they tried to keep her locked away. But for now, "WATCH OUT! A COMPACT PERSIAN SOCIOPATH IS COMING BACK TO COLLECT SOME DUES!"
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stoops posted:What was the coded radio/printer message Root gave to Shaw?
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stoops posted:What was the coded radio/printer message Root gave to Shaw? Four alarm fire, a reference to this exchange in If-then-else Root: [to Shaw as they are leaning close together against a wall, firing their weapons and covering the others' escape] We're so good at this together. You're gonna realize that someday. Sameen Shaw: [as they move together down the hall after the others, firing] Root. No offense. You're hot. You're good with a gun. Those are two qualities I greatly admire. But, you and me together would be like a four alarm fire at an oil refinery. Root: Sounds cozy.
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Is Shaw's original blindspot cover still effective? Now that Samaritan has lost manual track of her she can just disappear into the crowd again, right?
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ShakeZula posted:Is Shaw's original blindspot cover still effective? Now that Samaritan has lost manual track of her she can just disappear into the crowd again, right? Her setup isn't like Root's, once it was burned, it was done. Samaritan has that blindspot ID marked as deviant. Actually, something I noticed. The machine tags people based on threat, knowledge, and stuff like admin or asset. Samaritan's only special markers are threat and asset. Greer just has Primary instead of an asset number. Really cool way of showing the difference in how they see people.
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Accretionist posted:Oh-ho, a year? Let's say the average simulation was 2.5 days and she ran 7,000 simulations flat. Id watch the poo poo out of Shaw's Groundhog Day.
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I don't know why the hell Reese and Finch was so indignant about Max exercising his free will. Free will is one of the underlying principals of how The Machine works, hence the numbers program compared to Sammy's "Open" system. The Team did exercise their free will when The Machine gave the senator's number not to protect but kill to slow down/stop Sammy. The mission was real, they did save his life, he just choose not to be saved. It mirror's Shaw's escape where the prisoner chooses to stay behind at additional risk to save his friends. Shaw is literally 
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Echophonic posted:Her setup isn't like Root's, once it was burned, it was done. Samaritan has that blindspot ID marked as deviant. If I remember right Samaritan can't actually see the group; the facial recognition doesn't work and it manually tracks them from positions called in or through other factors (clothing, the gun Root steals from the cop in the intro episode, things spoken that hit keywords Samaritan is looking for)
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If I had to guess how the show ends, Harold programs the machine to start using the numbers thy helped, and the show fades to black with the baby machine starting to beat the baby samaritan when the machine is allowed to leverage all of the people it helped over the years.
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Party Plane Jones posted:If I remember right Samaritan can't actually see the group; the facial recognition doesn't work and it manually tracks them from positions called in or through other factors (clothing, the gun Root steals from the cop in the intro episode, things spoken that hit keywords Samaritan is looking for) Yeah, it was a thing last year that Samaritan couldn't identify Shaw even after Martine pointed her out. Whether that's still the case, and whether or not Samaritan's developed other means of tracking Shaw, who knows? On an unrelated note, Samaritan's creepy speaker voice in the radio episode was like a thousand times better than anything involving that kid. Borachon posted:If I had to guess how the show ends, Harold programs the machine to start using the numbers thy helped, and the show fades to black with the baby machine starting to beat the baby samaritan when the machine is allowed to leverage all of the people it helped over the years. I don't know if it'll be quite that straightforward, but I absolutely believe that the Machine's focus on free will and saving individuals vs Samaritan's theory of top-down control and sacrificing a few for the sake of many will be critical to how things play out.
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docbeard posted:On an unrelated note, Samaritan's creepy speaker voice in the radio episode was like a thousand times better than anything involving that kid. I'm not fond of anything in general involving the AIs talking directly to humans. It just reeks of cheesy sci-fi. I prefer their status as techno-deities, being aloof from the lowly humans and communicating with them in mysterious ways. But yeah, I don't know how they looked at the scene involving that kid the first time and decided not only that it deserved to make the cut, but that they should also revisit it at a later time.
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I wouldn't be surprised if Samaritans vaccine ended up being used to kill off swaths of the population. I'm kinda expecting that with the vaccines. Using it to engineering viruses to target unwanted groups, demographics, or going full FOX DIE and using it to kill specific people.
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ol qwerty bastard posted:Spoilers for the finale: I'm amazed that this isn't an XKCD.
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It was really loving crazy when Samaritan spoke to Root through the speaker that was such a pants making GBS threads moment. Goddamn this season has been firing on all cylinders, they even got the goofy episode with the wedding.
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SpookyLizard posted:I wouldn't be surprised if Samaritans vaccine ended up being used to kill off swaths of the population. I'm kinda expecting that with the vaccines. Using it to engineering viruses to target unwanted groups, demographics, or going full FOX DIE and using it to kill specific people. Also wouldn't be surprised if Samaritan cooked up something similar to the Utopia (UK) plotline, where (rough spoilers from memory I guess for people who haven't seen the show) the government engineers a vaccine for the Russian flu that also renders whole sections of the population infertile in order to control pop growth and avert future disasters.
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Buzzfeed just posted an interview with Greg and Jonah about how the cancellation was handled and holy poo poo gently caress CBS so hard. https://www.buzzfeed.com/kateaurthur/the-triumphant-rise-and-mysterious-fall-of-person-of-interes?utm_term=.usJpbJb5m#.nqdl171Gm
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Zaggitz posted:Buzzfeed just posted an interview with Greg and Jonah about how the cancellation was handled and holy poo poo gently caress CBS so hard. There's a lot of reasons to say that these days.
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This line from the article sounds dire... Spoilered just in case: “Without getting into specifics of the way the storytelling works, when we submitted certain final episodes and they did not draw a note, that was when we knew that we had taken the right course of action,” Nolan said.
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You know what, I was kind of curious about Training Day, but nope. Even if it turns out good, CBS would just gently caress it up. I'm done with them.
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Zaggitz posted:How do you mismanage this poo poo that badly. By being the #1 network in America. 
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docbeard posted:Yeah, it was a thing last year that Samaritan couldn't identify Shaw even after Martine pointed her out. Whether that's still the case, and whether or not Samaritan's developed other means of tracking Shaw, who knows? Shaw blew her cover with Samaritan (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDD_StJ85Ok). Shaw, Reese, and Finch only have one cover identity and Samaritan can tag those identities with deviant behavior. It's why Reese has to wear a mask sometimes when he's going to be in a place with cameras doing Irrelevant ops.
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Zaggitz posted:Buzzfeed just posted an interview with Greg and Jonah about how the cancellation was handled and holy poo poo gently caress CBS so hard. CBS is the fuckin worst We are so lucky that the guys on POI were savvy enough to just go for it and make a firm ending rather than holding out hope for a renewal like some other shows have done in the past Regy Rusty fucked around with this message at 18:46 on May 27, 2016 |
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I wish it could've continued on Netflix though. That must be why CBS never announced it, just another gently caress you to the fans. I'd watch the poo poo out of a similar show if WB sold one to Netflix.
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