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MAKE NO BABBYS
Jan 28, 2010

CaptainSkinny posted:

Because no one pays for porn fan fiction when it's available for free online by amateurs.

I mean, buying novels for less than a buck at thrift stores or used bookstores, where I would be anyhow buying books wasnt a big hurdle. I read 3-4 novels a week anyhow, sometimes you need brain candy or filler.

Syfe posted:

I have read some TNG and some Voyager novels, it defies the idea of light reading. With defined characters and places, it's very easy to read and really shut off to.
Great before bed reading that never gets too exciting to put down.

This.

Applewhite posted:

Ah ok. I think I see where the problem is.

You're basic.

some turd in a star trek thread on a long dead comedy website called me basic, oh no whatever shall I do??!!?!?!?!

I have a hard time watching Voyager because I read the books first and being stranded so far away from everything and everyone you know and love is legit terrifying.

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infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

PenisMonkey posted:

Remind her that bringing Tuvok back also meant bringing Neelix back. The worst outcome.

They killed Neelix without firing a shot and then they fought the whole episode to bring him back?

piratepilates
Mar 28, 2004

So I will learn to live with it. Because I can live with it. I can live with it.



numberoneposter posted:

The lady is gonna get so spooked at this one lol.

That one is a classic, if she don't like it she's not a keeper.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




DS9 good.

Upscaled DS9 better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpMawGAevEU

(Some guy is doing it since CBS can't be hosed)

MikeJF fucked around with this message at 03:38 on Oct 17, 2020

MAKE NO BABBYS
Jan 28, 2010
DS9 is objectively loving terrible, yall have brain worms

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth

MAKE NO BABBYS posted:

DS9 is objectively loving terrible, yall have brain worms

What the gently caress!

MAKE NO BABBYS
Jan 28, 2010
I watched two more episodes and somehow they were even loving worse?????


The mediocrity is palpable

MAKE NO BABBYS
Jan 28, 2010

Chomp8645 posted:

What the gently caress!

Its so loving bad my friend

GolfHole
Feb 26, 2004

ok so dont watch it, jeez

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

Azathoth posted:

Voyager was stuck in this weird place where the writers didn't seem to want to do massive story arcs, at least initially, despite the show's very premise making it much harder to simply reset to a neutral place.

If the Enterprise got into a fight and a couple decks got vented into space, they could conveniently pull into a random starbase and boom, decks 13 through 16 are now repopulated and all the damage is fixed, whereas Voyager had no such storytelling luxury.

Voyager, to really work as a series, should have been leaning into larger arcs from the very start, and a lot of their real stinker episodes come from wanting to have dramatic tension within a given episode but also needing to not do anything that would affect the ship beyond said episode (also because the writers couldn't ever agree on a personality for Janeway and stick with it)

Rick Berman mandated zero continuity and "sonic wallpaper" for music, because otherwise people would get confused during syndication re-runs. Also that the Maquis vs Federation divide (you know, one of the core precepts of the show) be put to bed by the third episode because zero continuity.

MAKE NO BABBYS
Jan 28, 2010

GolfHole posted:

ok so dont watch it, jeez

This is hilarious in the face of the responses I've received in this thread

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




The original plan the Voyager writers had for season 4 or 5 of Voyager was that about four or or five episodes in they'd have the two-parter Year of Hell but it would take place over a month or two and Voyager would stay wrecked (probably not as badly as in the actual episode), and then the entire rest of the season Voyager would be limping along in terrible condition and getting clowned on by everyone and at the end of the year they'd find allies and manage to patch up, maybe leave a few scars.

There's this anecdote of the writers getting excited about all the possibilities and spending days planning the pitch and coming up with episodes and then watching Braga go into a meeting with Berman and then come out just depressed and saying to them 'one two-parter, the ship is back to normal at the end'.

Winifred Madgers
Feb 12, 2002

MAKE NO BABBYS posted:

This is hilarious in the face of the responses I've received in this thread

Well you've provided more context, haven't you.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



Am I wrong? Could DS9 be good?



No, it is the trekkies who are wrong.

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

I just learned that YTMND is still alive and stumbled on this when looking up the Picard song:

https://sulusong.ytmnd.com/

Torquemada
Oct 21, 2010

MAKE NO BABBYS posted:

This is hilarious in the face of the responses I've received in this thread

I’m just going to assume you’re trolling, since I gave you a reasonable response and you doubled down on the ‘it’s literal human excrement’ schtick, and sprinkled ‘what’s wrong with Picard’ on top.

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel
Differnet people like different stuff its OK not everyone likes everything

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

MAKE NO BABBYS posted:

DS9 is objectively loving terrible, yall have brain worms

MAKE NO BABBYS posted:

Its so loving bad my friend

Why would you tell a friend they have brain worms over a silly tv show, that’s not a friendly thing to do at all

Someone could take a lesson from a great onscreen friendship

CarpenterWalrus
Mar 30, 2010

The Lazy Satanist
The quality of any Trek series is directly proportional to the number of Jeffrey Combs guest spots.

By this measure, DS9 is clearly the best Trek, followed by Enterprise, then who gives a poo poo really

MAKE NO BABBYS
Jan 28, 2010

ruddiger posted:

Why would you tell a friend they have brain worms over a silly tv show, that’s not a friendly thing to do at all

Someone could take a lesson from a great onscreen friendship



I legit cackled, thank you.

also, not trolling, DS9 is bad, Picard is mediocre but not bad.

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

DEFEND THE ONLY JEWISH STATE

MAKE NO BABBYS posted:

This is hilarious in the face of the responses I've received in this thread

I came here to upset people and people got upset! Now someone's saying something reasonable and that's loving hysterical!

womb with a view
Sep 8, 2007

I personally expected more vitriol for insulting our lord and saviour, Miles O'Brien



Very restrained STAR TREK: Sex Ghost Coast to Coast, I'm proud of u

Nefarious 2.0
Apr 22, 2008

Offense is overrated anyway.

i would be way more upset if someone who liked picard said ds9 was good

sweet geek swag
Mar 29, 2006

Adjust lasers to FUN!





Nefarious 2.0 posted:

i would be way more upset if someone who liked picard said ds9 was good

Yeah, they may be wrong, but they are consistently wrong.

Applewhite
Aug 16, 2014

by vyelkin
Nap Ghost
Guys prime rib is bad. It just tastes so terrible you guys.

You know what’s good? Dilburritos.

E: sorry wrong thread

ultrabindu
Jan 28, 2009

MikeJF posted:

DS9 good.

Upscaled DS9 better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpMawGAevEU

(Some guy is doing it since CBS can't be hosed)

if it ain't Allamaraine in 4k I don't give a poo poo

Drink-Mix Man
Mar 4, 2003

You are an odd fellow, but I must say... you throw a swell shindig.

Nefarious 2.0 posted:

i would be way more upset if someone who liked picard said ds9 was good

It's me. I like both.

Dry you're eyes

Imagined
Feb 2, 2007
I liked a lot of Picard up until the last couple episodes, and the fact that there was absolutely no reason to do a second season. I really loved the core idea of the psychic message not meant for mortals that drives people insane. It was still the best new Trek in many years, though that is damning with faint praise.

Imagined fucked around with this message at 15:18 on Oct 17, 2020

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
https://linktr.ee/Cylindricule

I think what gets me about Picard... I remember looking at TNG Picard as a kid and thinking this is someone whose life and accomplishments were something I would aspire to, if I could choose my Action Future.

Picard show Picard... If my life looked like his and my arc shaped like that, I'd be more disappointed by my life than my own real life

Drink-Mix Man
Mar 4, 2003

You are an odd fellow, but I must say... you throw a swell shindig.

Brawnfire posted:

I think what gets me about Picard... I remember looking at TNG Picard as a kid and thinking this is someone whose life and accomplishments were something I would aspire to, if I could choose my Action Future.

Picard show Picard... If my life looked like his and my arc shaped like that, I'd be more disappointed by my life than my own real life

I thought his arc was still kind of positive in the sense that it's basically saying you can always work to turn things around, even if you've spent 10-20 years loving up.

A lot of the reactions to Picard remind me of this friend I had that kept complaining about X Men 2 when it came out, saying "no one wants to see super heroes cry!" (Referring to Jean Gray's death sequence.) I guess no one wants to see their space heroes fall from grace in their winter years either.

Drink-Mix Man fucked around with this message at 15:53 on Oct 17, 2020

HD DAD
Jan 13, 2010

Generic white guy.

Toilet Rascal
Star Trek: Chakotay

Drink-Mix Man
Mar 4, 2003

You are an odd fellow, but I must say... you throw a swell shindig.

HD DAD posted:

Star Trek: Chakotay

:hmmno:

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
https://linktr.ee/Cylindricule

Drink-Mix Man posted:

I thought his arc was still kind of positive in the sense that it's basically saying you can always work to turn things around, even if you've spent 10-20 years loving up.

A lot of the reactions to Picard remind me of this friend I had that kept complaining about X Men 2 when it came out, saying "no one wants to see super heroes cry!" (Referring to Jean Gray's death sequence.) I guess no one wants to see their space heroes have unglamorous winter years either.

If anything, I don't think they examined the unglamorous winter years *enough*. I can find joy, hope, and pride in a character whose time is long past, as long as what they have feels like their own. I don't feel as though the Picard series story was Picard's, overall, it felt like another story stapled to Picard. I got so little sense that this story was actually driven by Picard, that his actions were ones he would take, it rang hollow.

I want to like it, I really do. The idea of years of disappointment and regret leading to a point of resurgence, where Picard pins his hopes on one last deed of Starfleet spirit, is an appealing one. This just wasn't it.

I'll keep pratce

piratepilates
Mar 28, 2004

So I will learn to live with it. Because I can live with it. I can live with it.



I think there could have been a good show in 'icard, and I think there could have been a good show with the idea of an admiral who overstays his career and ends it on a sour note. They did show him in a few scenes still being recognized as a respected officer by a few people (the nuns, the han solo lookalike, riker and troi, hugh, I think seven of nine was positive on him?).

But the rest of 'card was just not a well made show (imo) and would have been better if:

Brawnfire posted:

I got so little sense that this story was actually driven by Picard, that his actions were ones he would take, it rang hollow.
I'll keep pratce

it felt like a more personal journey rather than a plotline that mr. picard was thrown in to. oh well, it's a shame, maybe we'll see how it goes on the next season 'ard, which I'm not sure why they want to make.

hraringly bloingler
Feb 22, 2005



HD DAD posted:

Star Trek: Chakotay

this would own, and at least they'd do something with Chakotay's character. so much potential, so little payoff

Tighclops
Jan 23, 2008

Unable to deal with it


Grimey Drawer
lol @ debating the creative merits of the artisanal nostalgia bait/mass effect knockoff show

Drink-Mix Man
Mar 4, 2003

You are an odd fellow, but I must say... you throw a swell shindig.

Tighclops posted:

lol @ debating the creative merits of the artisanal nostalgia bait/mass effect knockoff show

gently caress off

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
They talking about making more deep space nine, and I don't want anymore. I'm good.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
Do not touch. The soup is made, do not poop in it

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Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

Imagined posted:

I liked a lot of Picard up until the last couple episodes, and the fact that there was absolutely no reason to do a second season. I really loved the core idea of the psychic message not meant for mortals that drives people insane. It was still the best new Trek in many years, though that is damning with faint praise.

You should sincerely go play Mass Effect instead if you have not already, because that's what Picard's blatantly ripping off.

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