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Endless Trash
Aug 12, 2007


MikeJF posted:

Maybe the giant space hole in season 2 was the space tentacles coming to finish the job.

Oh man I totally forgot that season 2 is Q just doing a much longer and more reprehensible version of All Good Things, complete with tacked on anomaly at the end because hey remember the Devron system? Remember?

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The General
Mar 4, 2007



I didn't choose this, but I did choose ilovebeersooomuch :):respek::)

RandolphCarter posted:

But they did slide back to their earth, it’s just that someone finally greased the damned gate.

I had to think long and hard, but I remember that. :laugh: But I also think it exemplifies the problem. Who hasn't spent a bunch of time looking for something, only to have it in their hand and discard it because for whatever reason it didn't feel like the right answer?

galagazombie
Oct 31, 2011

A silly little mouse!
The tentacles couldn’t destroy the galaxy without the portal because they copied that plot point straight from the video game without the context needed to make it work. Mass Effect FTL works by traveling between two linked relays/beacons, so in the games universe turning off the big node in our galaxy, left the Robo-Cthulhu’s with nothing in our galaxy to lock-on to with their partnered node to let them warp in. But Trek FTL doesn’t work like that, so the entire sequence is a non sequitur, because it’s literally lifted verbatim from another story.

Wii Spawn Camper
Nov 25, 2005


The General posted:

I had to think long and hard, but I remember that. :laugh: But I also think it exemplifies the problem. Who hasn't spent a bunch of time looking for something, only to have it in their hand and discard it because for whatever reason it didn't feel like the right answer?

Is sliders worth watching today? Looking for a new show.

Wii Spawn Camper
Nov 25, 2005


galagazombie posted:

The tentacles couldn’t destroy the galaxy without the portal because they copied that plot point straight from the video game without the context needed to make it work. Mass Effect FTL works by traveling between two linked relays/beacons, so in the games universe turning off the big node in our galaxy, left the Robo-Cthulhu’s with nothing in our galaxy to lock-on to with their partnered node to let them warp in. But Trek FTL doesn’t work like that, so the entire sequence is a non sequitur, because it’s literally lifted verbatim from another story.

Amazing, that’s the kind of quality I expect from Star Trek Picard.

The General
Mar 4, 2007



I didn't choose this, but I did choose ilovebeersooomuch :):respek::)

Wii Spawn Camper posted:

Is sliders worth watching today? Looking for a new show.

Seasons 1 and 2 are excellent. They go to interesting/funny places and sometimes they put way too much effort into fleshing it out. Season 3 is the Xfiles monster of the week season. Season 4 is where it all really starts to fall apart, and season 5 you watch because you've already come this far and it'll be over soon.

Wii Spawn Camper
Nov 25, 2005


The General posted:

Seasons 1 and 2 are excellent. They go to interesting/funny places and sometimes they put way too much effort into fleshing it out. Season 3 is the Xfiles monster of the week season. Season 4 is where it all really starts to fall apart, and season 5 you watch because you've already come this far and it'll be over soon.

Sounds perfect thank you and good night

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



Wii Spawn Camper posted:

Is sliders worth watching today? Looking for a new show.
yes, me and my brother watch an episode or two a month and it's absolutely stupid and entertaining. rembrandt owns and they do not use the fact that he's an identical twin anywhere near enough.

Flowers For Algeria
Dec 3, 2005


God drat does the tonal shift between seasons 2 and 3 of Enterprise hit hard. The big bumbling wellmeaning oaf and his southern sidekick go on all sorts of wondrous and thought-provoking adventures, then boom 9/11 happens and now they're all "I don't care about T'Pol's human rights claptrap, now I'm putting you in the airlock and suffocating you". hosed up imo.

redshirt
Aug 11, 2007

Flowers For Algeria posted:

God drat does the tonal shift between seasons 2 and 3 of Enterprise hit hard. The big bumbling wellmeaning oaf and his southern sidekick go on all sorts of wondrous and thought-provoking adventures, then boom 9/11 happens and now they're all "I don't care about T'Pol's human rights claptrap, now I'm putting you in the airlock and suffocating you". hosed up imo.

Pretty accurate description of America at the time.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

I love that Starfleet had full knowledge of a molecular genetics level perfect copy of Riker walking around and existing in their own system with a lower rank and went "this will never ever cause any security or authorization problems"

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




Flowers For Algeria
Dec 3, 2005


redshirt posted:

Pretty accurate description of America at the time.

Maybe. Does that also excuse the theme song remix?

redshirt
Aug 11, 2007

Flowers For Algeria posted:

Maybe. Does that also excuse the theme song remix?

It was a Dark Time....

Soul Dentist
Mar 17, 2009

In Enterprise's defense, most of the tonal shift seemed to just be Archer going "hard man in hard times" and the rest of the cast (Trip excepted) kinda stayed the same and became foils. Trip was just processing grief in the "network television standard" manner

sweet geek swag
Mar 29, 2006

Adjust lasers to FUN!





Archer went from being a bad captain because he was a nepo baby to being a bad captain for entirely new reasons.

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

Devolution is real
He went from being a captain that was bad that the writers made bad on purpose, to being a captain that was bad that the writers thought was good.

I'm watching season 1 right now and thoroughly enjoying him stumbling and loving everything up

thotsky
Jun 7, 2005

hot to trot
Maybe the giant space hole in season 2 was the space tentacles coming to finish the job we made along the way.

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




thotsky posted:

Maybe the giant space hole in season 2 was the space tentacles coming to finish the job we made along the way.

:hmmyes:

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl

thotsky posted:

Maybe the giant space hole in season 2 was the space tentacles coming to finish the job we made along the way.

that's a really unkind way to refer to captain archer

thotsky
Jun 7, 2005

hot to trot

Philman posted:

Enjoy a 4 hour rant about the picard show, and TNG.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdLHKdn0JTY

She doesn't know what a shrike is?

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

thotsky posted:

She doesn't know what a shrike is?

She is a physicist. If The Big Bang Theory taught me anything it's that scientists can have only one discipline and are ignorant in all others, like zoology.

Squiggle
Sep 29, 2002

I don't think she likes the special sauce, Rick.


nine-gear crow posted:

She is a physicist. If The Big Bang Theory taught me anything it's that scientists can have only one discipline and are ignorant in all others, like zoology.


Absolutely; researchers and engineers are some of the dumbest people I ever interact with because their specialties have nothing to do with why I'm working with them and they mostly all still manage to act like know-it-all pricks.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!
Apparently there is film crew in town for Starfleet Academy. I'm not in Toronto so maybe this is B roll or they need some industrial poo poo.

redshirt
Aug 11, 2007

NOVA SQUAD!

naem
May 29, 2011

WAIT so Jerry O’connell was on Sliders, he’s married to Rebecca Romjin aka Number One

Scott Bakula was on Quantum leap and he’s Captain Enterprise

Sliders and Quantum Leap are almost the same show

mash-up when??

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!
Jerry O’connell is show death. He's worse then Summer Glau

Cthulu Carl
Apr 16, 2006

"Whaat? That's not a dinosaur at all."

"It's a double-waddled cassowary - an extremely aggressive, gladiatorial bird."

naem posted:

Sliders and Quantum Leap are almost the same show

:wrong:

Sliders is about explores a multiverse model of time (But with next to no time travel) where each decision point spawns a new universe and the protagonists enter at the present and leave at an arbitrary time regardless of what happens in the episode.

Quantum Leap explores a single timeline with Sam entering at different points in which he himself was already alive and is unable to leave until he alters the outcome of the correct event.

Flowers For Algeria
Dec 3, 2005


sweet geek swag posted:

Archer went from being a bad captain because he was a nepo baby to being a bad captain for entirely new reasons.

I like Archer. Mostly chill dude, just wants to watch water-polo reruns on the TV, crack a cold one and give Porthos a couple of belly scratches. So what he's not Janeway-level competent and he let the dog pee on the sacred tree, who cares? Eventually he's willing to do the grunt-while-chainsawing-the-tree ritual so everything's fine. By season 2 he's got the gist of his job and he's okay at it.

I can't get over Trip, though. "Hi, welcome to the Tucker family. I'm Trip and here are my brothers Skab, Chitlins and Glop and my sister Bunt." No thank you.

Big Ass On Fire
Jun 15, 2023

Trip was extremely realistic Pensacola FL military or military adjacent dude. Whether or not that makes for good tv I dunno but he felt real familiar having spent a lot of time in N FL.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

Bonzo posted:

Jerry O’connell is show death. He's worse then Summer Glau

Lower Decks made it five seasons and was cancelled because Paramount is broke

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

nine-gear crow posted:

She is a physicist. If The Big Bang Theory taught me anything it's that scientists can have only one discipline and are ignorant in all others, like zoology.

I watched some of her other videos and I like her style, but in one video she was slamming Zoom so hard for having some nonsense called "post-quantum encryption". :cripes:

In other words, she encountered the jargon of an unfamiliar field and assumed it to be bullshit.

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004

Codito Click Here

The General posted:

Or like Quinn Mallory sliding back to his Earth.

Which happened in the show 4 times. There's the squeeky gate one (which is such a loving gut punch), Another time they get back and find that Maggie can't breath it's atmosphere, they come back a 3rd time to find the planet has been invaded by aliens, and then in the finale they go back but a psychic says it will kill them, and they slide anywya, but we don't see what happens. So that's like 3.5 maybe.

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

DEFEND THE ONLY JEWISH STATE
She made a pretty convincing case that it was bullshit to me based on how Zoom were describing it tbh

Wii Spawn Camper
Nov 25, 2005


Powered Descent posted:

I watched some of her other videos and I like her style, but in one video she was slamming Zoom so hard for having some nonsense called "post-quantum encryption". :cripes:

In other words, she encountered the jargon of an unfamiliar field and assumed it to be bullshit.

I mean that sounds like garbage marketing speak to me, you’re telling me it’s real? We’re living in a post-quantum world?

DavidCameronsPig
Jun 23, 2023

Powered Descent posted:

I watched some of her other videos and I like her style, but in one video she was slamming Zoom so hard for having some nonsense called "post-quantum encryption". :cripes:

In other words, she encountered the jargon of an unfamiliar field and assumed it to be bullshit.

Yeah but the zoom guy had said we'd all be sending AI chatbots to meetings then loving off down the beach, and the many many problems with that would be magically solved 'down the stack', I don't blame her for not trusting a single thing that came out of the guys mouth before or after that and that she maybe missed the one obscure not loving mental thing he said. Dude is off his rocker.

Flipperwaldt
Nov 11, 2011

Won't somebody think of the starving hamsters in China?



Late Enterprise to some degree has Archer wrestle with not having been prepared for all of it and "we had no choice" being an inadequate justification for a whole bunch of things they did. I don't think you're supposed to go into season three thinking he's portrayed as a fully formed, perfectly competent starfleet captain the way Picard is in tng.

Gutcruncher
Apr 16, 2005

Go home and be a family man!

CainFortea posted:

Which happened in the show 4 times. There's the squeeky gate one (which is such a loving gut punch),

Hahah I probably saw that episode once in my entire life when I was like 12 and I still remember that moment

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!

Wii Spawn Camper posted:

I mean that sounds like garbage marketing speak to me, you’re telling me it’s real? We’re living in a post-quantum world?

Pretty soon the rest of the world will realize that these type of phrases and initiatives are said to boost stock prices. It's how Silicon Valley innovates.

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Animal-Mother
Feb 14, 2012

RABBIT RABBIT
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Flowers For Algeria posted:

"Hi, welcome to the Tucker family. I'm Trip and here are my brothers Skab, Chitlins and Glop and my sister Bunt."

Bunt..... FCA.

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