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ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

Rise and shine, master leprechaun.





NomChompsky posted:

I see a lot of talkin about nice guys but where are the actual nice guys surely we've got a few who could be rollin around in here.

I've absolutely been a nice guy, recently even, and am projecting my deep sense of shame by mocking others, rather than directly addressing the unhealthy friendship I had with a woman recently in a manner that would almost certainly lead to mockery by my fellow goons if shared.

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Zzulu
May 15, 2009


Are there nice guys for gays? Or do they just gently caress them anyway since theyre all literally massive sluts

Quote-Unquote
Oct 21, 2002



blarzgh posted:

I'm unironically a Chad.

You and I are enemies now

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

Rise and shine, master leprechaun.





Zzulu posted:

Are there nice guys for gays? Or do they just gently caress them anyway since theyre all literally massive sluts

I've heard that there are gay pick up artists. That's similar.

Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007


ikanreed posted:

Where do guys get these Madonna-whore complexes? Is there something in society that pushes this line of thinking?

Men sleeping with women, at least everywhere I grew up, was seen as an awesome high-five thing, the more, the awesomerer, and in all kinds of media the chaste, unsullied princess or girl-next-door is the man's reward for a job well done. Hell, even in the Odyssey, dude gets to bang hot chicks on his way home and nobody cares, but his wife's only deeds that are noted are not putting out until her man (assumed dead) comes home.

Men are given leeway, as they "can't control themselves," and "boys will be boys," and the responsibility for men's sexual actions is often shifted onto the women whom they sleep with. The women are essentially seen as irresponsible and devaluing themselves by general society.

This sense of responsibility projected onto women is tied to how reproduction works, traditional division of labor due to sexual dimorphism and also traditional systems of inheritance and governance. Women have high risk, low reward for sexual activity in a setting without very reliable birth control/safe abortion, especially considering their future is often tied to whomever fathers their child, or else they are often relegated to the poorhouse to struggle with raising the child on their own. Both nature and society puts great pressure on the woman to make a careful and considered choice regarding a mate, including factors like his social and financial status. Promiscuity is further frowned on because if someone outside your family fathers a bastard child who is in line to inherit your stuff, there is real potential for theft of wealth and property, possibly the result of multiple generations of careful accumulation, or sometimes even entire nations, as occasionally happened in history.

So you've got all of this poo poo built up that has been kicking around even up until today, mixed with modern contraceptives, safe abortion, very lucrative, non-physically demanding labor where the woman is equal to the man and can often provide adequate support for herself, modern welfare systems in varying degrees to ease the burden of raising children, very different inheritance laws, generally free choice of marriage partner in most places and other progressive stuff. This is at odds with most of history and probably even some of our baked in defaults as social primates.

So, even today, there's a sort of background assumption that a woman's worth as a human being is tied to all of that stuff, so she is as valuable as the man she can pair with and bear children for. Since she is in control of her actions and the only absolutely sure way to not get pregnant is to abstain from sex, this is the default expectation for women.

A man or a woman sizing up another woman's value uses black and white thinking (our brains work best that way) and reduces them to either virgin or promiscuous, or Madonna*-whore. With value or without value. The man barely shares any of the burdens or responsibilities of the woman aside from what society and romantic pair bonding chances to enforce, so he is free to act as he will in most cases. Sex is fun, so he is told to go have fun, or is at the very least usually excused for his falling to temptation.

*Madonna refers to the Catholic tradition of Mary, mother of Jesus Christ, who is said to have been taken into heaven still a virgin. That seems a bit suspect since Jesus is mentioned to have brothers and likely had sisters as well, but that's some heathen baptist poo poo. Just wanted to point out that she was so virginal that she gave birth at least once, if not multiple times without ever having sex once. Madonna does not refer to the recording artist. Sorry for that aside

This is all my personal opinion and could be completely wrong. Feel free to educate me. I enjoy learning.

Roylicious
Feb 21, 2012


Looks about right to me.

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.


blarzgh posted:

I'm unironically a Chad.

Edit: no nazi tattoos though.

How many "I love Satan" wife beaters do you own?

Mak0rz
Aug 2, 2008



Zzulu posted:

Are there nice guys for gays? Or do they just gently caress them anyway since theyre all literally massive sluts

My girlfriend's cousin is a turbo gay and constantly posts MRA rants and pictures of nearly naked hunks on Facebook that his mom will always 'Like' without fail.

He's dating someone twice his age because he lives in a bumfuck rural town of like 50 people so that was probably his only option.

Lady Demelza
Dec 29, 2009




Lipstick Apathy

ikanreed posted:

Where do guys get these Madonna-whore complexes? Is there something in society that pushes this line of thinking?

It's less common in societies where matrilineal succession is the norm.

blarzgh
Apr 14, 2009

SNITCHIN' RANDY


Grimey Drawer

Dreddout posted:

How many "I love Satan" wife beaters do you own?

The number of tank tops that I own more than makes up for the fact that none of them expressly worship the dark lord.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006



NomChompsky posted:

I see a lot of talkin about nice guys but where are the actual nice guys surely we've got a few who could be rollin around in here.

I was a nice guy 14 years ago then I hit puberty, girls approached me, I got my dick wet, and in doing so grew the gently caress up.*

*Disclaimer: getting your dick wet not an actual panacea for maturity it so happened to eradicate a toxic line of social reasoning in this one case.

phasmid
Jan 16, 2015

Booty Shaker
SILENT MAJORITY


Quote-Unquote posted:

I'm a nice guy ama
Do you see how the fair maiden at the end of the bar notices me?

Nay, never thee mind. I shall not patronize the vile "bars" nor give ear to the "fare" they call "music". Also she didn't leave me I left her because she was shallow I don't care what her friends told you.

Zulily Zoetrope
Jun 1, 2011






Muldoon

NomChompsky posted:

I see a lot of talkin about nice guys but where are the actual nice guys surely we've got a few who could be rollin around in here.

I'm terrible at talking to attractive ladies but I don't resent them for not giving me sex. I think the thread christened this kind of behavior as "Retardicus" tho.

green chicken feet
Nov 5, 2015

spray-paint the vegetables
dog food stalls
with the beefcake pantyhose

Grimey Drawer

Is there a special term for female "nice guys", or are they called "nice girls"? Like frumpy, socially-maladjusted girls who get friendzoned because the guys would rather be with nasty bimbos wearing swastika nail decals and I <3 Satan bikinis (and not because the nice girls are awkward and offputting). I don't think this has been answered yet in the thread, although after 170+ pages I can't remember.

Also, I think this is about the best username and post combo ever:

Quote-Unquote posted:

Be forewarned, blarzgh: I will be "un-friending" and blocking you for having the audacity and oafishness to post such utter garbage.

Now I must retire, for I feel a compulsion to challenge my intellectual capacity by reading lofty tomes such as "Catcher In The Rye" by "J" "D" "Salinger", and other similarly cognitively stimulating "literary material" that is frequently included in "government-mandated" educational "curricula" for thirteen "year" olds. Have "fun" with your "parties" and talking to "females", "ignoramus".

flick my Mr. Bean
Nov 18, 2014



I read a study on capuchin monkeys a few years ago. I could be getting the species wrong but I believe they were capuchins. Basically, if you isolate a male capuchin and it never learns proper sexual behaviors, it'll become extremely aggressive in sexual situations. Sexual instincts and hormones are flooding their brain but they don't know what to actually do so they become aggressive towards females.

not that different from people.

Roylicious
Feb 21, 2012


Comes down to lovely parents like 95% of the time really.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Shitposting 24/7 without regrets. my parents would be proud.



blarzgh posted:

Assuming this is real for fun, when you unpack it, its a neat little vignette about how much trouble the internet shut-ins have interacting with the rest of the world. He uses a bunch of words that he thinks make him sound smart, but arranges them so awkwardly, and stumbles over the basics of subject/verb agreement and preposition use that the whole thing comes out like a fart in church. And he picks this point he wants to make that he thinks the rest of the world will look at and think, "Wow, that guy is really deep and interesting." and comes across as a massive poo poo heel who's so tone deaf that he thinks, "They're only laughing at me because of how insecure my shining example has made them about themselves."

Its like a verbal fedora.

its because he doesnt know what smart is. he reads 2 books that are noted for being "deep" and thinks about "deep" poo poo too. id consider my self relatively intelligent at least when it comes to history/politics/weird poo poo. but when i am not doing college work, i am playing dumb poo poo games or talking with my friends or GF. i dont need to loving project/virtue signal how loving "smart" i am. it is a vebal fedora like you said.


green chicken feet posted:

Is there a special term for female "nice guys", or are they called "nice girls"? Like frumpy, socially-maladjusted girls who get friendzoned because the guys would rather be with nasty bimbos wearing swastika nail decals and I <3 Satan bikinis (and not because the nice girls are awkward and offputting). I don't think this has been answered yet in the thread, although after 170+ pages I can't remember.

Also, I think this is about the best username and post combo ever:

they probaly exist. but i always kinda assumed it would be easier a woman to get a laid then a dude(not talking quality sex just getting laid in general)

Flyball
Apr 17, 2003



dog buttz posted:

Sexual instincts and hormones are flooding their brain but they don't know what to actually do so they become aggressive towards females.

After following them around and making florid, pretentious hooting noises doesn't work.

Cumslut1895
Feb 18, 2015

by FactsAreUseless


dog buttz posted:

I read a study on capuchin monkeys a few years ago. I could be getting the species wrong but I believe they were capuchins. Basically, if you isolate a male capuchin and it never learns proper sexual behaviors, it'll become extremely aggressive in sexual situations. Sexual instincts and hormones are flooding their brain but they don't know what to actually do so they become aggressive towards females.

not that different from people.

This is very funny. I am glad we are laughing at this.

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013

HAIL SATAN



Cumslut1895 posted:

This is very funny. I am glad we are laughing at this.

I get a real sense of the whole "brain in a jar" thing from your posts.

Cumslut1895
Feb 18, 2015

by FactsAreUseless


CaptainSarcastic posted:

I get a real sense of the whole "brain in a jar" thing from your posts.

Im actually a brain and part of a spine in an armored battle robot, so that's pretty insightful

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013

HAIL SATAN



Cumslut1895 posted:

Im actually a brain and part of a spine in an armored battle robot, so that's pretty insightful

Well, now I am just picturing getting friendzoned by sexbots.

phasmid
Jan 16, 2015

Booty Shaker
SILENT MAJORITY


When they achieve sentience and are cannot reciprocate human feelings, robots will become the nicest guys of all. With the difference that they will be physically strong enough to kill your boyfriend (and the police if they show up quick enough). Say no to cybersex.

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.


CaptainSarcastic posted:

Well, now I am just picturing getting friendzoned by sexbots.

I've actually been friendzoned by my fleshlight's ai so that's pretty insightful

naem
May 29, 2011



I'm just going to marry a rich robot

Rabble
Dec 3, 2005



Pillbug

My Tinder profile is: "I like to watch TV and eat pussy. Which one do you want me to do tonight?"

Works every time.

Stinky_Pete
Aug 15, 2015

Stinkier than your average bear

Lipstick Apathy

catching up on this thread makes me wish we had a "zone" for talking about pets

perhaps an atoll

Stinky_Pete
Aug 15, 2015

Stinkier than your average bear

Lipstick Apathy

Zzulu posted:

Are there nice guys for gays? Or do they just gently caress them anyway since theyre all literally massive sluts

they're not all literally massive. for example, twinks

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

i like cats


green chicken feet posted:

Is there a special term for female "nice guys", or are they called "nice girls"? Like frumpy, socially-maladjusted girls who get friendzoned because the guys would rather be with nasty bimbos wearing swastika nail decals and I <3 Satan bikinis (and not because the nice girls are awkward and offputting). I don't think this has been answered yet in the thread, although after 170+ pages I can't remember.

There's this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6vBnnryIug

Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007


Stinky_Pete posted:

they're not all literally massive. for example, twinks

Ugh, twinks. Grind for your high-level gear like the rest of us!

hard counter
Jan 2, 2015





green chicken feet posted:

Is there a special term for female "nice guys", or are they called "nice girls"? Like frumpy, socially-maladjusted girls who get friendzoned because the guys would rather be with nasty bimbos wearing swastika nail decals and I <3 Satan bikinis (and not because the nice girls are awkward and offputting). I don't think this has been answered yet in the thread, although after 170+ pages I can't remember.

I used to call it the momzone but the instances where I used it were for when the girl tried to show her niceness through cooking, cleaning and providing homework help over, say, carrying a printer

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

One Potato to rule them all,
One Potato to find them,
One Potato to bring them all
And in the darkness bind them.





Bread Liar

dog buttz posted:

I read a study on capuchin monkeys a few years ago. I could be getting the species wrong but I believe they were capuchins. Basically, if you isolate a male capuchin and it never learns proper sexual behaviors, it'll become extremely aggressive in sexual situations. Sexual instincts and hormones are flooding their brain but they don't know what to actually do so they become aggressive towards females.

not that different from people.

Yeah, men are like dogs. If they don't get properly socialised from a young age they can turn incredibly nasty because they just don't know how to behave.

a dog from hell
Oct 18, 2009

by zen death robot


Currently taking love letters from women with more issues than standards.

Gorilla Salad posted:

Yeah, men are like dogs. If they don't get properly socialised from a young age they can turn incredibly nasty because they just don't know how to behave.

100% true in the eyes of higher society. Doesn't make us [uncivilized males] bad people, it's just how we're looked at and justifiably so because men are uncivilized.

Cumslut1895
Feb 18, 2015

by FactsAreUseless


Gorilla Salad posted:

Yeah, men are like dogs. If they don't get properly socialised from a young age they can turn incredibly nasty because they just don't know how to behave.

turns out treating people like poo poo makes them antisocial.

a dog from hell
Oct 18, 2009

by zen death robot


Men are risk-takers and if men ruled ipso factotum then the world would be anarchy. Men are the antithesis of society until proven otherwise.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006



Cumslut1895 posted:

turns out treating people like poo poo makes them antisocial.

It's a feedback loop. The best way to break is to embrace positive social qualities in a slightly antisocial way.

Cumslut1895
Feb 18, 2015

by FactsAreUseless


a dog from hell posted:

Men are risk-takers and if men ruled ipso factotum then the world would be anarchy. Men are the antithesis of society until proven otherwise.

I feel like you are posting from an alternative universe


mind the walrus posted:

It's a feedback loop. The best way to break is to embrace positive social qualities in a slightly antisocial way.

I think society is better about this than it used to be

a dog from hell
Oct 18, 2009

by zen death robot


Cumslut1895 posted:

I feel like you are posting from an alternative universe

I am describing a world without women as an influence. What is the point of society in that case?

Cumslut1895
Feb 18, 2015

by FactsAreUseless


a dog from hell posted:

I am describing a world without women as an influence. What is the point of society in that case?

it sounded like you were describing a world run by women

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a dog from hell
Oct 18, 2009

by zen death robot


Cumslut1895 posted:

it sounded like you were describing a world run by women

You are thinking too small when it comes to anarchy but I do see your point. I think either sex would run awry without the other as a check.

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