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JaucheCharly posted:The level of early modern posts is low, hence: This is awesome, thanks.
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OwlFancier posted:WRT Drugchat wasn't WW1 basically full of drugs because you could just buy all sorts of poo poo legally back then so people would just shoot themselves full of whatever for fun? Why do you need now-illegal drugs when you could have patent medicines instead?          See you get Phosferine: a proven remedy for Brain-Fag!
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See, they look like snake oil, but I'm not entirely sure that half of them aren't colloidal radium or something.
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OwlFancier posted:See, they look like snake oil, but I'm not entirely sure that half of them aren't colloidal radium or something. if the gout thing involves crocus extract, we use the same thing--as did the classical Greeks. it's 3000 years old
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OwlFancier posted:See, they look like snake oil, but I'm not entirely sure that half of them aren't colloidal radium or something. According to Mr Wikipedia, Chlorodyne was basically opium, cannabis, and chloroform with a bunch of other stuff chucked in as well. Turns out that George's Marvellous Medicine was a documentary, who'd have thunk it?
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Hey can somebody give me an example of that British equipment list style? It's something along the lines of 1x BOOTS, BLACK, MARCHING, for the use of. But I think I'm remembering it wrong and it's bugging me. The weird yoda grammar was a defining characteristic
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Trin Tragula posted:
https://www.amazon.com/Phosferine-Liquid-Extract-Tonic-30/dp/B00OW79HZ6
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HEY GAL posted:that poo poo is legit good for you, son (the FDA has not evaluated this statement)
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Splode posted:Hey can somebody give me an example of that British equipment list style? The quarter-bloke does his list in that reversed style so that e.g. "Pencils, Copying" will appear next to "Pencils, Carpentry" and "Pencils, Propelling" (and "Pencils, Copying, Blue" will go next to "Pencils, Copying, Green" and "Pencils, Copying, Red") in a List, Alphabetised, Keeping Proper Stock, For The Use Of. It's not exclusively British, either: here's a 1943 American QM's catalogue which uses the backwards style. (Not that it should matter, since stores are for storing, not for issuing; if they were meant to be issued, they'd be called "Issues", wouldn't they? Now geddaway!)
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Trin Tragula posted:According to Mr Wikipedia, Chlorodyne was basically opium, cannabis, and chloroform with a bunch of other stuff chucked in as well. Turns out that George's Marvellous Medicine was a documentary, who'd have thunk it? I was gonna say that the safe bet is that those are all opium.
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Trin Tragula posted:The quarter-bloke does his list in that reversed style so that e.g. "Pencils, Copying" will appear next to "Pencils, Carpentry" and "Pencils, Propelling" (and "Pencils, Copying, Blue" will go next to "Pencils, Copying, Green" and "Pencils, Copying, Red") in a List, Alphabetised, Keeping Proper Stock, For The Use Of. It's not exclusively British, either: here's a 1943 American QM's catalogue which uses the backwards style. This is an excellent post, but remember, you have to speak the 'comma'.
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supply people literally talk like that, out loud. "here, take your bag, duffel". and so on
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Trin Tragula posted:The quarter-bloke does his list in that reversed style so that e.g. "Pencils, Copying" will appear next to "Pencils, Carpentry" and "Pencils, Propelling" (and "Pencils, Copying, Blue" will go next to "Pencils, Copying, Green" and "Pencils, Copying, Red") in a List, Alphabetised, Keeping Proper Stock, For The Use Of. It's not exclusively British, either: here's a 1943 American QM's catalogue which uses the backwards style. What's with the "for the use of" thing? What does it mean? What else could be there? If it's not for use, then what is it for?
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Tevery Best posted:What's with the "for the use of" thing? What does it mean? What else could be there? If it's not for use, then what is it for? Bwahahaha "Hey guys, this is stupid!" said the man to the army
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Thanks Trin!
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Does anyone have the to&e for a british infantry platoon in 1944?
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Mycroft Holmes posted:Does anyone have the to&e for a british infantry platoon in 1944? Surely you mean a Platoon, Infantry, British, Mk.1944?
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Tevery Best posted:What's with the "for the use of" thing? What does it mean? What else could be there? If it's not for use, then what is it for? The same reason the soap that comes in MREs is labelled "Do Not Eat".
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Comrade Koba posted:Surely you mean a Platoon, Infantry, British, Mk.1944? Don't be silly. It wouldn't be a Mark, it would be a Revision.
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For theirs were not to question why theirs was just to do and die - Alfred, Lord Tennyson
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DONE, What have I.
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Basically the only good scene from that movie.
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Where the Nazis issued their soldiers meth, the Allies preferred the tamer benzedrine, which as a racemic amphetamine was basically what is now adderall. The average soldier ran on stimulants from day to day from coffee and tobacco to more potent amphetamines and that made up for most of their drug use. Some doctors on the other hand ended up abusing anything to their disposal that could get them high, from morphine to diethyl ether. I also read that the Americans distributed a shitload of benzedrine and dexedrine to Japanese civilians so that they wouldn't feel hunger and could keep working without complaint, and that created a drug epidemic of sorts in postwar Japan. I also think, though may be wrong, that U.S. soldiers in the Pacific were given barbiturates to help with acclimation Tias posted:I would imagine the US military has switched to Modafinil by now? Has the US military taken up modafinil in any real way? One thing I find interesting about modern day nootropics is that when it came to such drugs, Soviets, and later Russians, were the pioneers. The cosmonauts took poo poo like piracetam, phenylpiracetam, and phenibut up to space IIRC, and Russian olympians were doped up with all sorts of performance enhancing nootropics like bromantane. All of these were given to military and to these days most nootropic drugs are OTC in Russia. Fututor Magnus fucked around with this message at 09:13 on Nov 7, 2016 |
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Splode posted:Hey can somebody give me an example of that British equipment list style? In the Danish army, we had DOLK, DRÆBE (KNIFE, [verb for killing])  Fututor Magnus posted:Has the US military taken up modafinil in any real way? One thing I find interesting about modern day nootropics is that when it came to such drugs, Soviets, and later Russians, were the pioneers. The cosmonauts took poo poo like piracetam, phenylpiracetam, and phenibut up to space IIRC, and Russian olympians were doped up with all sorts of performance enhancing nootropics like bromantane. All of these were given to military and to these days most nootropic drugs are OTC in Russia. I only have anecdotal stories, but modafinil seems like an obvious solution: long-term wakefullness without the psychosis potential and jitters of amphetamines. I used to be addicted to speed, and let me tell you tunnel vision and delusions of demons inside your walls are no fun at all  E: The wiki links to this article about the USAF approving modafinil for aircrew fatigue and "investigation into other uses": http://www.hep.afrl.af.mil/HEPF/Policy/modafinil.pdf Tias fucked around with this message at 12:33 on Nov 7, 2016 |
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I suppose if I looked at my clothing list it would be like that, but I think it's mostly out of style in NZ these days. We still clean our weapons after exercises with ragsold (Rags, old) though!
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Tias posted:In the Danish army, we had DOLK, DRÆBE (KNIFE, [verb for killing]) Which we werent allowed to sharpen 
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vuk83 posted:Which we werent allowed to sharpen Eh? Why? Do you have to hand it back in and get a fresh one or just wander around with a butter knife?
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Polikarpov posted:The same reason the soap that comes in MREs is labelled "Do Not Eat". Just lean it against a rock or something
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Woo, got back to the front of the thread. Now I have to read about T-55, one of my favorite subjects.
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OwlFancier posted:Eh? Why? The utility of a sharp knife, killing, for the purpose of, for a modern soldier is about the same as that of a blunt one and the injury rate is much lower. Nobrainer, really.
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OwlFancier posted:Eh? Why? I'd hazard the guess that since we were just in for a one-year conscription period and we weren't expecting to be doing any fighting ever, they'd rather didn't we futz around with our gear.
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Back in the 1800s they also did not sharpen officer's swords until they actually went on campaign. It makes sense since every time you sharpen a blade you are degrading it, so only sharpen it if you really need it.
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aphid_licker posted:The utility of a sharp knife, killing, for the purpose of, for a modern soldier is about the same as that of a blunt one and the injury rate is much lower. Nobrainer, really. Well, I guess, but then I also thought that knives were mostly for utility purposes for that very reason and a blunt knife is not especially useful.
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vuk83 posted:Which we werent allowed to sharpen I feel like this is a useful metaphor for NATO
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Tias posted:I'd hazard the guess that since we were just in for a one-year conscription period and we weren't expecting to be doing any fighting ever, they'd rather didn't we futz around with our gear. I never found out why. Before deploying to Iraq on the soldiers in my company asked in a Q&A session with the coy-commander, if it was okay to sharpen his knife. Basic answer was DADT.  But a more useless piece of kit. No option for using as a bayonet, and an awful scabbard, and some how always got super rusty.
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WW2 Data We finish the Italian explosives today with their mines and traps! Which mine could be armed by "remote control"? Which mine could be detonated by cutting its tripwire, and how did it work? Why was the Ratchet Mine so ingenious, and what was it primarily used for? Which mine had a false lid? What are the differences between the V-3 and the V-5? Why did the Pignone Type II require more pressure to activate than the Type I? And which mine(s) gave me a huge amount of trouble reading? 
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vuk83 posted:I never found out why. Before deploying to Iraq on the soldiers in my company asked in a Q&A session with the coy-commander, if it was okay to sharpen his knife. Basic answer was DADT. :
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A while ago I did actually have the opportunity to ask a couple of people where "for the use of" comes from. One assured me quite eloquently that it was always meant as a pisstake of the master, quarter's, speaking style, approved; the other informed me equally eloquently that it used to be used to earmark certain goods to be issued only for certain units or duties, so you might have entries like "Cloaks, Warm, Guard Duty, for the use of" and "Pencils, Copying, C Company, for the use of".
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Trin Tragula posted:A while ago I did actually have the opportunity to ask a couple of people where "for the use of" comes from. One assured me quite eloquently that it was always meant as a pisstake of the master, quarter's, speaking style, approved; the other informed me equally eloquently that it used to be used to earmark certain goods to be issued only for certain units or duties, so you might have entries like "Cloaks, Warm, Guard Duty, for the use of" and "Pencils, Copying, C Company, for the use of". Okay, this does make certain sense. Thank you.
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WoodrowSkillson posted:Back in the 1800s they also did not sharpen officer's swords until they actually went on campaign. It makes sense since every time you sharpen a blade you are degrading it, so only sharpen it if you really need it. If you want to be really smug, do it outside your enemies embassy.
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