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gently caress Obama trying to ram through the TPP and vetoing the 9/11 bill
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I hope the 9/11 veto gets overridden if he does it. Saudi Arabia sucks. Although Obama has kind of a point that it then sets a precedent and opens the USA up to lawsuits from foreigners. Solution to that is maybe stop doing illegal war things though!
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Sep 20, 2016 20:28
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I mean this poo poo at the end just shows what he's all about.
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Sep 20, 2016 20:29
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Roylicious posted:I hope the 9/11 veto gets overridden if he does it. Saudi Arabia sucks. It sets a "precedent" how? Obama is full of poo poo, he supports the Saudis, and that's all there is to it.
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Sep 20, 2016 20:30
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Sep 20, 2016 20:32
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:I mean this poo poo at the end just shows what he's all about. Someone dig up a bunch of DND posts from 2007 about how obama would use his last days in office to fix everything "5th dimensional chess" he opened up the 5th dimension alright, but it just turned into a wormhole all his campaign financiers can come through hellboy style
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Sep 20, 2016 20:33
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:I mean this poo poo at the end just shows what he's all about. I dunno he's ramming through a lot of cool things. FDA regulation of vape stuff, ending "antibacterial" crap, setting aside tons of land and water for nature/fishing preserves, various other stuff. reallivedinosaur posted:It sets a "precedent" how? Obama is full of poo poo, he supports the Saudis, and that's all there is to it. Maybe look up the definition of the word there guy. If the USA says 'we can sue SA in private for their actions against us' then what prevents European countries from jumping on that wagon and letting their citizens sue the USA in international courts for causing the refugee crisis or whatever else?
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Sep 20, 2016 20:34
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gently caress obama that dirty millionaire never even put single payer on the table
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Roylicious posted:I dunno he's ramming through a lot of cool things. FDA regulation of vape stuff, ending "antibacterial" crap, setting aside tons of land and water for nature/fishing preserves, various other stuff. Truly historic. I feel bad I never voted for him now
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Sep 20, 2016 20:35
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"Down with Big Vape"
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Sep 20, 2016 20:36
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Roylicious posted:I dunno he's ramming through a lot of cool things. FDA regulation of vape stuff, ending "antibacterial" crap, setting aside tons of land and water for nature/fishing preserves, various other stuff. The law prevents that already. The US doesn't have to entertain lawsuits from foreign nationals or governments. If you want to sue the USA in a saudi court, well that's already possible and lovely little tinpot dictators convict US officials of "crimes" all the time.
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Sep 20, 2016 20:36
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Roylicious posted:Maybe look up the definition of the word there guy. If the USA says 'we can sue SA in private for their actions against us' then what prevents European countries from jumping on that wagon and letting their citizens sue the USA in international courts for causing the refugee crisis or whatever else? same thing that stopped the supreme court from unenforcing the indian removal act HOT STEEL
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:Truly historic. I feel bad I never voted for him now Look he's not the most amazing president ever but it's kind of silly how people get so gung ho one way or another. Like being normal has just disappeared from the political scene and if you're not decrying Obama as a Muslim sell out terrorist corporatist you clearly must be shilling or something. Drove past someone the other day who was sitting by his minivan which was covered in 'MICHELLE OBAMA IS A TRANNY' stickers shouting about Muslims. That isn't a good look. Odds are things are more complex in DC than just the President sitting back with a grin and enacting shadow government policies.
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Roylicious posted:Look he's not the most amazing president ever but it's kind of silly how people get so gung ho one way or another. Like being normal has just disappeared from the political scene and if you're not decrying Obama as a Muslim sell out terrorist corporatist you clearly must be shilling or something. the status quo is not a good thing and should not be something we support
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oh yeah the antibacterial soap is great because it doesn't matter even in the tinest smallest amount since india and china pump about two gallons of antibiotics into each child who ever catches a cold, which is what actually creates the resistant bacteria... smh obama more like what a bum
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Sep 20, 2016 20:38
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our president is the CIA anyway, as a country we're led around by our intelligence community, even when that enmires us in long counterproductive wars
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Sep 20, 2016 20:38
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dookifex_maximus posted:gently caress obama that dirty millionaire never even put single payer on the table  Those liberals weren't askin for the end of the Forever War. They knew that was not happenin. All they wanted was some single-payer health care. He never did give them liberals that single-payer health care, that single-payer health care was just a heartbreakin' liar's promise.
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gently caress the ROW posted:oh yeah the antibacterial soap is great because it doesn't matter even in the tinest smallest amount since india and china pump about two gallons of antibiotics into each child who ever catches a cold, which is what actually creates the resistant bacteria... smh obama more like what a bum See this is the kind of intellectual dishonesty that turns people off. Sorry but it's totally a good thing that the FDA has been empowered to go after bullshit like that and India/China have nothing to do with it. Besides which we are negotiating with them about using less (or eliminating) agricultural antibiotics. Being mad at Obama because he can't wave a magic wand and tell India and China what to do is insane. reallivedinosaur posted:the status quo is not a good thing and should not be something we support And I don't like HRC. I'm simply saying Obama is not some mastermind sellout corporatist and it is true that he faced unprecedented opposition from the GOP in nearly every single thing he tried to do. Saying 'nuh uh he controlled both houses and got nothing done!' just makes normal people  at you.
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Sep 20, 2016 20:39
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Roylicious posted:Odds are things are more complex in DC than just the President sitting back with a grin and enacting shadow government policies. He ain't sitting back. He played a ton of golf
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Sep 20, 2016 20:41
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Sep 20, 2016 20:41
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Roylicious posted:See this is the kind of intellectual dishonesty that turns people off. Sorry but it's totally a good thing that the FDA has been empowered to go after bullshit like that and India/China have nothing to do with it. Besides which we are negotiating with them about using less (or eliminating) agricultural antibiotics. im not sure you even know what youre talking about at all, especially if you think the FDA "goes after" anything except for flagrant violations (after the fact) or perhaps political opponents of whoever currently appointed the FDA
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Sep 20, 2016 20:43
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Roylicious posted:And I don't like HRC. I'm simply saying Obama is not some mastermind sellout corporatist and it is true that he faced unprecedented opposition from the GOP in nearly every single thing he tried to do. Saying 'nuh uh he controlled both houses and got nothing done!' just makes normal people Now you're insulting him more, because what savvy ex-senator wouldn't know the most basic bargaining tactic? You ask for full communism so you can settle for single payer.
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I like how it's now an Obama conspiracy that single payer public option didn't happen even though the GOP explicitely said 'we will filibuster this unless you remove this' and at the time the Dems did not have 60 seats so it was either remove it or nothing. Then the GOP filibustered anyway and the Dems got lucky with Kennedy's seat and managed to squeak it through as it was on the floor before the GOP got the seat filled. It's also an Obama conspiracy that the GOP then sued over it and took it all the way to the Supreme Court, which was only resolved June 2015. What exactly is he supposed to do? The executive isn't the king. He can't just force Congress to pass laws nor can he tell the courts to screw off with their injunctions. dookifex_maximus posted:Now you're insulting him more, because what savvy ex-senator wouldn't know the most basic bargaining tactic? You ask for full communism so you can settle for single payer. There is no bargaining possible when the GOP says 'remove this or we will filibuster it and it will never pass because you don't have 60 seats.' e: gently caress the ROW posted:im not sure you even know what youre talking about at all, especially if you think the FDA "goes after" anything except for flagrant violations (after the fact) or perhaps political opponents of whoever currently appointed the FDA I very rarely post in here but even I know you're either a moron or a bad troll. "Empowerment of this toothless regulatory agency is bad because it is toothless!!!" is what you just said. Roylicious fucked around with this message at 20:46 on Sep 20, 2016 |
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ugh i can practically smell moridin posting in this thread already... nice work baiting him out here with all those stupid words. G*d drat it
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Sep 20, 2016 20:46
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I think I win if you start seeing Mordins in the shadows lmao.
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Sep 20, 2016 20:47
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reallivedinosaur posted:
lmao beautiful
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reallivedinosaur posted:
Okay that's pretty great.
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Roylicious posted:I think I win if you start seeing Mordins in the shadows lmao. Its like your twins... Im curious abotu what you think you're winning... hope its really good, to make up for all the pain, suffering, emotional traumas you inflicted with your posting
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Sep 20, 2016 20:48
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Dont answer that never mind
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reallivedinosaur posted:
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gently caress the ROW posted:Its like your twins... Im curious abotu what you think you're winning... hope its really good, to make up for all the pain, suffering, emotional traumas you inflicted with your posting gently caress the ROW posted:Dont answer that never mind Nice meltdown?
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reallivedinosaur posted:
Lol 5
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Sep 20, 2016 21:15
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That has to be deliberate. Come on
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Sep 20, 2016 21:18
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We're through the drat looking glass
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Sep 20, 2016 21:22
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Roylicious posted:Well if you think that corporate interests are that ingrained then it really does not matter whatsoever who is president. Actually, since they have bought both parties, they are free to use the stage of national politics to play out their petty internecine squabbles. So no, it doesn't matter. Vote Trump.
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Roylicious posted:I like how it's now an Obama conspiracy that single payer public option didn't happen even though the GOP explicitely said 'we will filibuster this unless you remove this' and at the time the Dems did not have 60 seats so it was either remove it or nothing. Then the GOP filibustered anyway and the Dems got lucky with Kennedy's seat and managed to squeak it through as it was on the floor before the GOP got the seat filled. Lmao i don't even care about any of this but just lmao at "the GOP threatened to filibuster so it was completely impossible of course no chance whatsoever shouldn't even try, except uhh this thing they filibustered and got passed anyway" Like lol hardest self own i've seen in a while
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The odd choice of words for the first word in each statement... Lol this has to be real and I don't believe for a goddamn second it's not the kind of thing slick willy would do
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reallivedinosaur posted:
2016. We're obviously going crazy, let's stop whining about it and sack up. Vote Trump.
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