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Angry Birds Suicide posted:The odd choice of words for the first word in each statement... Lol this has to be real and I don't believe for a goddamn second it's not the kind of thing slick willy would do Ya
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Zo posted:Lmao i don't even care about any of this but just lmao at "the GOP threatened to filibuster so it was completely impossible of course no chance whatsoever shouldn't even try, except uhh this thing they filibustered and got passed anyway" Apparently you lack reading comprehension. They need 60 seats to bypass a filibuster. They did not have 60 seats because Ted Kennedy was at home dying, meaning they only had 59 seats. They managed to get a Democrat to fill out Kennedy's term, at which point they had those 60 seats for just a couple months until the special election. Scott Brown (R) was looking like he was going to win the seat (and he did). So they had to ram through what was already on the floor in that time, because there wasn't enough time for it to go back through committee and the House, since if it gets re-written on the Senate floor it has to go through the House again. What was already on the floor was the gutted healthcare bill the GOP said they'd cooperate on but didn't so that's what we got. The only self own here is you not comprehending basic civics.
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my fellow americans, i assure you that i am not corrupt, or inept, i am in fact so desperate to cement any kind of legacy that I will happily piecemeal an individual mandate bill that really can only get better i mean, just look at all of our other fantastic, longstanding, undiminished social safety nets. there is simply no way this can go wrong. There's no way that this might ever devolve into a situation where the individual mandate has only increased the bargaining power of the insurers, despite their K street offices. I assure you, my fellow americans, that the limited access you have to your legislators will actually work to your benefit, because now that you're legally obligated to form a relationship with one of these entities, they have nothing more to gain, and will certainly not gouge its captive marketplace. Thank you, good night, and god bless america
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obama wasn't a very good president if he has to fall back on weak excuses like not having a filibuster-proof majority kind of a dink
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Roylicious posted:Apparently you lack reading comprehension. Obama didn't try to get public support for meaningful Healthcare reform and didn't try to pass meaningful healthcare reform. I voted for him too but please find a way to deal with reality.
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obama might not even be born in the united states, according to a HRC staffer i know
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remember when the dept. of homeland security worked with governors for a nationwide crackdown against the occupy wall street movement i mean, they obviously weren't offering any revolutionary ideas besides the idea of revolution, but still that crackdown was pretty heinous
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canpakes posted:Obama didn't try to get public support for meaningful I didn't vote for him but please educate yourself on the political process because this thread is full of people who apparently think the executive has way more power than the office actually wields. He had TONS of public support for healthcare reform. Unfortunately half the country was also screaming 'MUSLIM COMMUNIST' at him. Do you not remember the media repeating "DEATH PANELS" over and over again? He had no way of knowing in 2008-2009 that the GOP would lie and filibuster despite concessions from the Dems before the fact, and he had no way of knowing that pursuing cross-party relations at that point would be fruitless. He should have realized that afterwards and taken a harder stance on future negotiations but that's a different issue.
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that obstinate douchebag bluster really didnt work out for the republican party. they got a bunch of antivaxxing freemen on the land shoved up their keisters and then trump lmao
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dookifex_maximus posted:that obstinate douchebag bluster really didnt work out for the republican party. they got a bunch of antivaxxing freemen on the land shoved up their keisters and then trump lmao Yeah they let the tea parties in and boy howdy that went wrong quick. I usually vote R but now I dunno; they aren't very representative of solid fiscal policy and hands off social stuff anymore.
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Roylicious posted:I didn't vote for him but please educate yourself on the political process because this thread is full of people who apparently think the executive has way more power than the office actually wields. there was huge public support for heathcare reform there wasnt support for milquetoast bullshit scheme that forces people to buy insurance and still leaves millions without coverage he probably should have been a better president
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Roylicious posted:I didn't vote for him but please educate yourself on the political process because this thread is full of people who apparently think the executive has way more power than the office actually wields. Lol
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reallivedinosaur posted:he probably should have been a better president He shoulda used the bully pulpit more. 
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This rigged system is poo poo.
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Not even loving trying any more
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Quantum Finger posted:This rigged system is poo poo. Just set up your options straddles and drink a lot. It's working out alright for me I suppose although there's a lot of hipster california IPAs making their way over here which I don't like. e: \/\/\/ I'd buy that shirt
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BORN 2 RULE YOURE REPUBLIC A poo poo 638,438,134,195 DEAD PROLES KILL EM ALL 2016
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Roylicious posted:Just set up your options straddles and drink a lot. It's working out alright for me I suppose although there's a lot of hipster california IPAs making their way over here which I don't like. i actually do print shirts, you want a custom dookifex? guaranteed to be made in my garage with a silkscreen from a dumpster
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Hell yeah.
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lol alright i'll make up a sample
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Roylicious posted:He shoulda used the bully pulpit more. Or at all
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I don't understand why young people wanted Obamacare so much when it just redistributed wealth from the young and healthy to the old and sick
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:I don't understand why young people wanted Obamacare so much when it just redistributed wealth from the young and healthy to the old and sick No wealth to redistribute if no one can afford insurance in the first place.
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Sep 20, 2016 21:03
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Yah but I'm getting a policy thats like 30% worse for 50$ a month more now
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I love how when you're too poor to afford healthcare, but not poor enough to have medicaid, you can't just opt-out lol gotta give the government money for no reason.
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dookifex_maximus posted:lol alright i'll make up a sample I'll take 2
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:Yah but I'm getting a policy thats like 30% worse for 50$ a month more now Same haha. No don't get me wrong that bill sucks. I just don't think it's 100% on Obama. a bone to pick posted:I love how when you're too poor to afford healthcare, but not poor enough to have medicaid, you can't just opt-out lol gotta give the government money for no reason. If you can't afford medicaid there's still subsidized plans... I have a friend whose premium is $300/mo but he only actually pays like $100 because the gov't subsidizes the rest. Might depend on state since I know not all insurers are everywhere but still there should be something like that. But aside from that very small slice of the population it pretty much blows for everyone else yeah. And those subsidized plans are often poo poo anyway. We should have just copied Germany's semi-private system where they have decent single payer public option but if you want extras there's premium private insurance too.
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a bone to pick posted:I love how when you're too poor to afford healthcare, but not poor enough to have medicaid, you can't just opt-out lol gotta give the government money for no reason. Lol when I had no job I got free top of the line insurance. Now that I make a sub-subsistence wage I pay out the rear end for garbage insurance.
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Sep 20, 2016 21:10
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One cool trick to vaccum wealth out of the working class and redistribute it to insurance executives
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Roylicious posted:Same haha. No don't get me wrong that bill sucks. I just don't think it's 100% on Obama. Yah its the huge buttfucking corporate system he's spokesperson for
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The fact is the Dems were ready to go with a public option until the GOP screamed bloody murder until it was removed. If you want to blame anyone blame the Tea Party for mucking up the best chance we had at reforming healthcare in this country for the next 20-30 years probably.
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Probably the funniest is that it's based on income so Chinese nationals who's parents bought multimillion dollar condos in my city get free top of the line healthcare with zero deductible it co pays because they don't work and don't technically draw an income. Meanwhile I make $13 an hour and have an insurance plan with a multi thousand dollar deductible and $40 co pays thank you Obama.
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a bone to pick posted:I love how when you're too poor to afford healthcare, but not poor enough to have medicaid, you can't just opt-out lol gotta give the government money for no reason. No, see, you're supposed to buy one of the "affordable" plans for a couple hundred dollars a month. Never mind that the deductibles on those plans are so high that they are basically useless unless you need a heart transplant or shatter half the bones in your body. Did you just say "single payer"? Son, you some kind of COMMIE?
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Roylicious posted:The fact is the Dems were ready to go with a public option until the GOP screamed bloody murder until it was removed. If you want to blame anyone blame the Tea Party for mucking up the best chance we had at reforming healthcare in this country for the next 20-30 years probably. Lmao.
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Roylicious posted:The fact is the Dems were ready to go with a public option until the GOP screamed bloody murder until it was removed. If you want to blame anyone blame the Tea Party for mucking up the best chance we had at reforming healthcare in this country for the next 20-30 years probably. You, specifically are what's wrong with America.
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canpakes posted:You, specifically are what's wrong with America. You make $13/hr.
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Roylicious posted:You make $13/hr. Ya
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What else needs to be said? What are you another college drop out restaurant worker who thinks he knows everything?
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