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# ? Jan 26, 2021 06:55 |
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Hmmm... well, if there was some paint which made its way under the floor, then I guess that works as a marker to lead him to the spot. But I still think that the timing of the actions both Teruteru and Nagito supposedly had to perform still makes it much more likely that Teruteru was under the floor before the blackout.
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This seems like a good time to bring back this from the old LP: ![]() (The source was http://risotto-nero.tumblr.com/, but their account seems to have since been deleted).
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Sooooo, I'm just going to guess the obvious and assume that when Ibuki heard Steve, was was under the room and not in it. If the floods gaps are big enough to shishkabob someone through I'm fairly sure noise can carry up too.
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Jimmy4400nav posted:Sooooo, I'm just going to guess the obvious and assume that when Ibuki heard Steve, was was under the room and not in it. If the floods gaps are big enough to shishkabob someone through I'm fairly sure noise can carry up too. Yes. If it was Teruteru, then he was taking a chance that his voice would sound a bit muffled or much lower down than expected, but he was gambling the general disorientation would make that unnoticable.
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Well, we all seem to agree that it was Steve Teruteru, under the floor, with the skewer. Except... why? It's Danganronpa, so I'm not going to question anybody's motive for murder, but I'm questioning the hell out of his method. Why was he under the floor in the first place? Did he notice the glow in the dark paint? When did he have the opportunity to notice it? Did he know that the blackout was coming, or did he come up with a plan to take advantage of it on the fly in that short period of time? It just raises too many questions. I'm actually starting to believe he's innocent.
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Truthkeeper posted:Well, we all seem to agree that it was Steve Teruteru, under the floor, with the skewer. He could have found the knife earlier and thought he was actually killing a killer, not realising that the one grabbing the knife wasn't the person who put it there.
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() There's...definitely a contradiction hidden within those remarks. ...I need to find it! ![]() ![]() > Shoot "I was in the dining hall" with "Gaps in Floorboard" ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() His...memories? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Whether or not Teruteru was in the dining hall during the blackout... In order to know for sure... I just need to throw that question at him! ![]() ![]() > Present "Embarrassing Pose" ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() A-Anyway...We need to focus and think about this...! A thin, edged tool...with a diameter of about 5 mm...and at least 50 cm in length... The weapon that meets those requirements...might have been used at the crime scene... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() > IRON SKEWER ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ♪ Music pauses. ♪ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ♪ Music resumes. ♪ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() If the iron skewer is the weapon...then hiding it in the kitchen would be the easiest way to slip it by. But...Byakuya and I checked the kitchen pretty thoroughly before the party started. Which means... Was the weapon already hidden somewhere we couldn't find it? ![]() ![]() ![]() Could it have been in an unexpected place...? Where would that be? Where did he hide a long weapon like an iron skewer? ![]() Think...carefully...! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I must reveal to Teruteru the conclusive evidence that proves he's the killer!
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This part really confuses me. Why do we need to find the murder weapon? All the students but him believe it's him, so we can just vote and bam!
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Arcturas posted:This part really confuses me. Why do we need to find the murder weapon? All the students but him believe it's him, so we can just vote and bam! FPzero posted:
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FPzero posted:
Oh, Ibuki, you're back to being my number one favorite ![]()
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What the hell is even happening to Teruteru right now? and why would he need to fake his accent anyway, somthing doesnt add up here.
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Tombot posted:What the hell is even happening to Teruteru right now? and why would he need to fake his accent anyway, somthing doesnt add up here. I think the idea is that the voice he's been using all along is the fake accent, probably put on to make him sound more worldly and less of a hayseed.
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Pretty much. He's trying to come off as a sophisticated chef - look how offended he gets when referred to as a cook, there's a few moments earlier in the game where he kind of slips up.
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Tombot posted:What the hell is even happening to Teruteru right now? and why would he need to fake his accent anyway, somthing doesnt add up here. Sounds like he's claiming to be from a big city but is actually from a small town. I imagine it would work better if I knew anything at all about West Azabu or South Aoyama. And they're trying to clear up the murder weapon because they remember being sure that Nagito was the murderer, until Hajime brought up that the knife didn't kill Byakuya.
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voting for Chekhov's comically huge meatwad. It's the only thing big enough.
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Stabbey_the_Clown posted:I think the idea is that the voice he's been using all along is the fake accent, probably put on to make him sound more worldly and less of a hayseed. It sounds a little odd, and not nearly as incomprehensible as it's supposed to reading it, but Creole is kind of an inspired choice for Teru's accent- kind of obscure but still relatively local, recognizable and distinct.
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None of this explains why he suddenly brought up Avril Levigne though.
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oath2order posted:None of this explains why he suddenly brought up Avril Levigne though. Because he's still Steve.
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Was waiting for a safe time to mention this: Peko's food poisoning. I think I figured out why it happened considering what Steve said about the food being untainted - She wasn't poisoned. It was just a stroke of good fortune for someone that she was sequestered to the bathroom instead of being in the office to activate the circuit breaker - She got food-poisoning because of Nagito's Ultimate Luck: It got her stuck in a position that she couldn't do any good in.
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resurgam40 posted:It sounds a little odd, and not nearly as incomprehensible as it's supposed to reading it, but Creole is kind of an inspired choice for Teru's accent- kind of obscure but still relatively local, recognizable and distinct.
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oath2order posted:None of this explains why he suddenly brought up Avril Levigne though. IIRC he says it in the japanese version as well.
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resurgam40 posted:It sounds a little odd, and not nearly as incomprehensible as it's supposed to reading it, but Creole is kind of an inspired choice for Teru's accent- kind of obscure but still relatively local, recognizable and distinct. Also associated with cuisine.
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He actually said "Avril Cuisine," Monomi just misheard.
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The murder weapon isn't in his pompadour is it? That's not hygienic Steve.
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So, uh... Paris Hilton? I really feel like I'm missing something there. Edit: Also, I feel like I missed the part where Steve found out about Nagito's plan and then made his own plan. Otherwise... he's got no reason to know that there's a knife under the table there. Capfalcon fucked around with this message at 02:34 on Jan 3, 2017 |
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Capfalcon posted:So, uh... Paris Hilton? He just randomly yells out western celebrities when he is stressed. It's just a character quirk.
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I'm hoping we hear more about this in the next video because I'm not sure how he figured out this plan.
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"Meat on the bone." That one was a little tricky first time through, because by that point you pretty much know the bone is the skewer, but there's a couple different ways those four words could combine ("Bone on the meat", "On the meat bone") that'd be technically accurate. In fact it's a minor meme in the DR fanbase that when it comes up, pretty much every variant of those four words noted.
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SMaster777 posted:"Meat on the bone." That one was a little tricky first time through, because by that point you pretty much know the bone is the skewer, but there's a couple different ways those four words could combine ("Bone on the meat", "On the meat bone") that'd be technically accurate. In fact it's a minor meme in the DR fanbase that when it comes up, pretty much every variant of those four words noted. The first time I got to that one I failed it with "THE MEAT ON BONE"
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I completely forgot how glorious TACTICAL TOGAMI looks in that one panel. ![]()
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I'm going to once again repeat my gripe with the "correct solution" as presented by the game. Nagito's task list once the blackout started:
Teruteru's task list once the blackout started:
Maybe it's just me, but it seems like one person's task list was significantly shorter and much, much, easier than the other person, and yet apparently the second person is supposed to have done all their tasks FASTER than the first person. ![]() ![]() Given that Teruteru knew when the blackout was going to happen, he must have been waiting in position under the floor before the blackout happened. None of that crap with the portable stove and fire door was necessary. At most he used the stove as a light beside the trap door to find his way back, after which he could turn it off when leaving the storage room, and following the wall with his hands back to the kitchen. Same killer, same basic M.O., but with a timeline which actually makes sense. This kind of sloppy thinking and poor logic is a killer for a mystery game.
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The whole staying under the floor before the blackout started is something they have talked about in the trial and the whole reason why they started to suspect Fuyuhiko, because he was the only one who wasn't at the party and could have waited under the floor before the blackout. Teruteru used the door and the portable stove in his plan because he had to give himself also a alibi before the blackout in where he was moving from the kitchen to hall bringing food and make people think that it was impossible to go from the kitchen to under the floor without any light , if he wanted to wait before the blackout he would be suspicious as soon as the topic of who wasn't at the party started, they even talk about that earlier in the trial when they question if Peko and Teruteru could have been the ones waiting under the floor and they each give their alibis who other characters and, in Teruteru's case, the player himself can confirm because we saw him bringing food during the party. I will admit the whole timeline thing is something that might be confusing and I had a similar problem but let me just say that the next update actually helps in creating a reason why despite Nagito having just a few things to do he was slow enough to make Teruteru get under the table before someone got the knife.
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The real question is why did he do it? So far his breakdown has neglected that bit, and he doesn't seem to have any special motives other than wanting off the island like everyone else.
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I failed the stupid meat on the bone one a lot, and I also didn't understand how to do the panic Talk Action all that well so I got my first trial failure there. >_>
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Oh good, now I get to post my favourite piece of fanart from the last thread!Kringlorr posted:
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Rarity posted:I don't care who the killer is. I just want to know why they didn't kill Steve instead Is this a good enough reason? ![]()
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# ? Jan 26, 2021 06:55 |
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I'd assume Teruteru just wanted to escape - he seems like a pretty pervy, selfish type of dude As for the more complicated kill being the correct one, that's just the way games and murder mysteries are! If they were simple the whole "gather everyone in the drawing room and lay out the murder step by step" done in detective stories would be awfully short and boring ![]()
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