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no_recall
Aug 17, 2015

Lipstick Apathy

G0RF posted:

The butchered quote comes from a podcast interview from 3 years ago, a fan show called Sunny's Diner, I think about half an hour in. A simpler time prior to the disclosure that Sandi and Chris were actually married. They'd raised maybe around $70 million at that point?

At some point she's recounting a conversation with Chris where she was planning travel arrangements for Gamescom, I think -- 5 seats in coach for her and her staff, one in business class for Chris. She explains that Chris was trying to get her to upgrade her own seat to join him, a temptation she claims to have demurred due to the potentially bad optics for fans.

She then said that Chris said, "Well the fans don't even know, right? You've got to be comfortable."

I think I originally transcribed it as "the backers will never know" in the old thread. Because it conveyed so much so succinctly, it got meme-ified instantly and remains shorthand for Chris or Sandi rationalizing self-indulgent spending of backer funds.

Shitizen's don't care as long as their game is being made.

:thunk:

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Dark Off
Aug 14, 2015




thatguy posted:

When that stream was happening and we were all in Discord someone kept posting cropped pictures of random portions of Ben and I was literally crying with laughter. I still don't know why I found it so funny. It was probably all the drugs and alcohol.

that was me. I did it because i had never seen such odd things on normal human body.
it has gotten better now as those sac's are no longer full of grease (the sac's still exist because of loose skin).
Ben might survive morbid obesity if he continue's losing weight and that is a good positive thing.
but boy he was close to death last year. Because holy poo poo those sac's and flaps.

Sillybones
Aug 10, 2013

go away,
spooky skeleton,
go away

Dark Off posted:

that was me. I did it because i had never seen such odd things on normal human body.
it has gotten better now as those sac's are no longer full of grease (the sac's still exist because of loose skin).
Ben might survive morbid obesity if he continue's losing weight and that is a good positive thing.
but boy he was close to death last year. Because holy poo poo those sac's and flaps.

Reminder:

toanoradian
May 30, 2011


The happiest waffligator
Why did you photoshop Ben's face to that poor man's body?

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

no_recall posted:

Shitizen's don't care as long as their game is being made.

WHAT GAME?? I don't see a loving game anymore. I see a misery generator. The BAD call of Duty meat grinder ripoff PvP. The most elaborate gameplay fantasies from YouTube shills like TheXPGamers talking about bringing five or ten buddies along to manually load and unload cargo. The drink serving mechanics for people who only bought the 45 dollar starter package so they grind their way up to a starter ship.

I over time dumped a bunch of money into a HOTAS and Oculus Rift setup so I could have a fully immersive IL-2:Battle of Stalingrad experience. It absolutely kicks rear end and is fully immersive, hardcore realism settings cranked to the max. But it's still a fantasy, and a limited one at that - of being an ace pilot in a simulation context. These lunatics fantasize artificial labor exploitation in a fake Galaxy that will never amount to any actual sense of satisfaction or emotional fulfillment.

In the glory days of EVE Online, the 400+ ship battles (that are loving impossible in Cryengine especially when every missile fired is a complex physics object simulation) involved a lot of work and coordination where even the tiny ships could play a large part by "bumping" the massive titans. Loading cargo? Serving drinks? To grind out fake in-game currency? Isn't contributing to that level of narrative at all. It's all a loving delusion of space melodrama that the tech will never be able to support, especially with the hubris, feature creep, and incompetence of Chris Roberts.

Star Citizen is not a game. It's a misery generator. Squadron 42 will never come out in the form of a AAA space shooter. This poo poo has loving come and gone and the backers will be left holding the bag and reading these people defend giving Chris and Sandi a free ride just disgusts me with how delusional they are.

Daztek
Jun 2, 2006



Taintrunner posted:

WHAT GAME?? I don't see a loving game anymore. I see a misery generator. The BAD call of Duty meat grinder ripoff PvP. The most elaborate gameplay fantasies from YouTube shills like TheXPGamers talking about bringing five or ten buddies along to manually load and unload cargo. The drink serving mechanics for people who only bought the 45 dollar starter package so they grind their way up to a starter ship.

I over time dumped a bunch of money into a HOTAS and Oculus Rift setup so I could have a fully immersive IL-2:Battle of Stalingrad experience. It absolutely kicks rear end and is fully immersive, hardcore realism settings cranked to the max. But it's still a fantasy, and a limited one at that - of being an ace pilot in a simulation context. These lunatics fantasize artificial labor exploitation in a fake Galaxy that will never amount to any actual sense of satisfaction or emotional fulfillment.

In the glory days of EVE Online, the 400+ ship battles (that are loving impossible in Cryengine especially when every missile fired is a complex physics object simulation) involved a lot of work and coordination where even the tiny ships could play a large part by "bumping" the massive titans. Loading cargo? Serving drinks? To grind out fake in-game currency? Isn't contributing to that level of narrative at all. It's all a loving delusion of space melodrama that the tech will never be able to support, especially with the hubris, feature creep, and incompetence of Chris Roberts.

Star Citizen is not a game. It's a misery generator. Squadron 42 will never come out in the form of a AAA space shooter. This poo poo has loving come and gone and the backers will be left holding the bag and reading these people defend giving Chris and Sandi a free ride just disgusts me with how delusional they are.

You just need to believe more and buy a ship or two, friend.

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Daztek posted:

You just need to believe more and buy a ship or two, friend.

I bought all of the Rise of Flight DLC because I stumbled upon the "British Scoundrel" backstory for the dynamic campaign, which may yet be the darkest poo poo I have ever read.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



Star Citizen is the game of life.


It's all really exciting and easy to lose yourself in, but as it continues year after year you realise how much you've given and how much it still demands until finally the house cuts off your line of credit and you can no longer play.

Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?
I dunno man, American Satan looks good, maybe I'll just fast forward the three seconds that Sandi appears (out of focus in the background and probably dubbed over).

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

American Satan is Hercule

Yolomon Wayne
Jun 10, 2014

You call it "The Big Bang", but what really happened is
Grimey Drawer

Erenthal posted:

I mean it's a thread joke and people are very harsh and bordelrine creepy towars her at times, but holy hell i have to seriously put in effort to recall a person acting more unnaturally in front of a camera than Sandi. It's loving uncanny, as soon as the camera is on her she completely locks up.

Having binge watched all of BotW recently i can agree, most "actors" from VHS era tapes are more natural actors than her.

Milkfred E. Moore
Aug 27, 2006

'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'
whatever happened to that reality TV show about squadron 42 casting or whatever

BigTeddyBear
Jul 21, 2017
Dude looks like the space pope from Futurama


SelenicMartian
Sep 14, 2013

Sometimes it's not the bomb that's retarded.

Ben looked for the second chair in weirdest places.

BigTeddyBear
Jul 21, 2017
Though the chair wouldn't take it

Michaellaneous
Oct 30, 2013

When you guys say that SM is more lethal than COD you are being ironic, right? Last time I checked it takes at most 3 bullets to kill a player at center mass, as opposed to the 10 you need in SM.

Daztek
Jun 2, 2006



Michaellaneous posted:

When you guys say that SM is more lethal than COD you are being ironic, right? Last time I checked it takes at most 3 bullets to kill a player at center mass, as opposed to the 10 you need in SM.

8 of those bullets get lost due to packetloss, StarNetwork will fix it

:smug:

Virtual Captain
Feb 20, 2017

Archive Priest of the Stimperial Order

Star Citizen Good, in all things forevermore. Amen.
:pray:

Tippis posted:

CryEngine PAK files are just zips with custom headers. There are a bajillion different libraries that let you do that, a large portion of which will let you do it with encrypted packages as well. That part is not a problem and it does not break delta patching as it exists today. All it does is require the patcher to contain the keys needed, which somewhat defeats the purpose of the encryption… but then, that purpose is defeated by default by this being an actual mass-market game.

lol if truthful and factual.

MilesK posted:

But if they didn't encrypt every file, people might figure out they've barely done anything to CryEngine since 2013. Better to be safe.

I suspect this all the time. I've seen no hard evidence of 64-bit precision being used.

xXAdmiralBekHarXx
Jul 11, 2017

by zen death robot

G0RF posted:

The butchered quote comes from a podcast interview from 3 years ago, a fan show called Sunny's Diner, I think about half an hour in. A simpler time prior to the disclosure that Sandi and Chris were actually married. They'd raised maybe around $70 million at that point?

At some point she's recounting a conversation with Chris where she was planning travel arrangements for Gamescom, I think -- 5 seats in coach for her and her staff, one in business class for Chris. She explains that Chris was trying to get her to upgrade her own seat to join him, a temptation she claims to have demurred due to the potentially bad optics for fans.

She then said that Chris said, "Well the fans don't even know, right? You've got to be comfortable."

I think I originally transcribed it as "the backers will never know" in the old thread. Because it conveyed so much so succinctly, it got meme-ified instantly and remains shorthand for Chris or Sandi rationalizing self-indulgent spending of backer funds.

God forbid he sit with his wife in COACH.

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

xXAdmiralBekHarXx posted:

God forbid he sit with his wife in COACH.

Only in first can you get served a Hairy Roberts.

AP
Jul 12, 2004

One Ring to fool them all
One Ring to find them
One Ring to milk them all
and pockets fully line them
Grimey Drawer
https://www.instagram.com/p/BWnjDAqlkvi/

#actress #movies #film #la #acting

boviscopophobic
Feb 5, 2016

Milky Moor posted:

whatever happened to that reality TV show about squadron 42 casting or whatever

It was one episode in some weird series. It happened. It was bad.

http://myxtv.com/shows/videos/cast-me-ep2

boviscopophobic
Feb 5, 2016

AP posted:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BWnjDAqlkvi/

#actress #movies #film #la #acting

It looks like Sandi's instagram started regularly using hashtags starting on March 25. The top 8 hashtags and frequencies of usage are:

actress: 15
la: 13
hollywood: 9
film: 8
movies: 8
starcitizen: 6
videogames: 5
acting: 4

Using a rough overall categorization, there were 46 usages of hashtags related to acting, and 20 usages of hashtags related to Star Citizen, out of 105 total hashtags.

Palladium
May 8, 2012

Very Good
✔️✔️✔️✔️
Have some pity for her, you guys don't know how cruel life is as a top 0.1% earner riding on easy scam backer money

Percelus
Sep 9, 2012

My command, your wish is

what annoys me about people like sandi is they would never pursue acting if it wasn't for celebrity status big movie stars enjoy

Dementropy
Aug 23, 2010



G0RF
Mar 19, 2015

Some galactic defender you are, Space Cadet.

Michaellaneous posted:

When you guys say that SM is more lethal than COD you are being ironic, right? Last time I checked it takes at most 3 bullets to kill a player at center mass, as opposed to the 10 you need in SM.

Chris had a vision of shooter gameplay even deadlier than Call of Duty and Star Marine answered the call.

How did he do it? How did a homegrown FPS from an upstart studio manage to be so deadly it caused suffering for the biggest genre franchise around?

One word. Stealth.

Chris Roberts posted:

"Stealth is part of the core design. We are trying to make the FPS gameplay itself be more tactical, less just 'run and gun'. Especially since it is more lethal than you would normally expect with a Call of Duty or something.[/b]

"But we have the hologram gadget where you can put up a hologram version of yourself and you can be off sneaking somewhere else. We actually have some gadgets which are good for stealth and distractions. We're going through and reactivating and polishing them from Star Marine and they will also debut with Star Marine.We are going to have definite things that will help you with hiding your radar and noise signature, or heat signature, and stuff like that. So we definitely want that.

"We have vents where you can sneak around or crawl around in and outflank people and do stuff like that."

Starting to catch on? Glimpse the radical vision? This isn't the "dumbed-down" combat of franchise trash like COD or Battlefield:

Chris Roberts posted:

“We really want the players to be invested in their characters, so when they get into FPS combat it should be more meaningful. The idea is to be more in the direction of a game like Demon’s Souls, where your character and life mean more to you, so you don’t want to get killed.

“We want to make sure that the combat that you get in Star Citizen isn’t just a dumbed-down version of an FPS. We also want to make sure our FPS has its own personality.”

Lethality + Tacticality + Exceptionality - Banality = The Next-Generation Vision of Combat.

In short and without irony, I think the game mode speaks for itself. So brace yourself!



xXAdmiralBekHarXx posted:

God forbid he sit with his wife in COACH.

Nice FUD, goonie. But your assertion lacks proper context. At the time of that interview, they were pretending not to be married. So your implication is factual without being truthful.

You are dismissed.

boviscopophobic posted:

Using a rough overall categorization, there were 46 usages of hashtags related to acting, and 20 usages of hashtags related to Star Citizen, out of 105 total hashtags.

The fans will never know, right?

G0RF fucked around with this message at 12:49 on Jul 31, 2017

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

I'm hoping for a letter from the Chairmen soon to quiet the fears.

Theotus
Nov 7, 2014

Hello Space Friends! Is anybody in here good/decent at Total War: Warhams? I would like to learn how to play the game but I have no idea what I'm doing. I just want to purge the xenos Greenskin filth. :black101:

Virtual Captain
Feb 20, 2017

Archive Priest of the Stimperial Order

Star Citizen Good, in all things forevermore. Amen.
:pray:

G0RF posted:

quote:

"Stealth is part of the core design. We are trying to make the FPS gameplay itself be more tactical, less just 'run and gun'. Especially since it is more lethal than you would normally expect with a Call of Duty or something.[/b]

"But we have the hologram gadget where you can put up a hologram version of yourself and you can be off sneaking somewhere else. We actually have some gadgets which are good for stealth and distractions. We're going through and reactivating and polishing them from Star Marine and they will also debut with Star Marine.We are going to have definite things that will help you with hiding your radar and noise signature, or heat signature, and stuff like that. So we definitely want that.

"We have vents where you can sneak around or crawl around in and outflank people and do stuff like that."

I'll add stealth to the tracker and any other Star Marine expectations I can dig up.

https://twitter.com/StarCitizenTrac/status/891991834695573504

:tinfoil:


trucutru posted:

The correct way to read the reddit poo poo is to click on the profiles of some of the most toxic, hateful, depraved goons like:

https://www.reddit.com/user/CatsAreFuzzy

or

https://www.reddit.com/user/SpacePanteloons

And just get to the funny stuff.

:laugh:

Percelus
Sep 9, 2012

My command, your wish is

Meridian posted:

Hello Space Friends! Is anybody in here good/decent at Total War: Warhams? I would like to learn how to play the game but I have no idea what I'm doing. I just want to purge the xenos Greenskin filth. :black101:

play as the greenskin filth and remember your ABCs - always be chopping

G0RF
Mar 19, 2015

Some galactic defender you are, Space Cadet.

If they hold their breath long enough it eventually will be more lethal.

Hav
Dec 11, 2009

Fun Shoe

Taintrunner posted:

In the glory days of EVE Online, the 400+ ship battles (that are loving impossible in Cryengine especially when every missile fired is a complex physics object simulation) involved a lot of work and coordination where even the tiny ships could play a large part by "bumping" the massive titans.

We got up to 1200 for the height of the named 1400mm artillery spam. That was glorious, because we literally had a firing line; Non-eve players - the fire command normally runs on a loop, 'firing' when a timer goes off. In large engagements, the 'fire' would go off, but the indication that the timer had run out and the next 'fire' wouldn't actually happen. So you switched to manual triggering of the weapons and hit them when TS called 'fire'. Lot of loving alpha. There was also the point that the whole thing would drop to 5fps when you had tonnes of poo poo on grid.

Brazilianpeanutwar posted:

I dunno man, American Satan looks good, maybe I'll just fast forward the three seconds that Sandi appears (out of focus in the background and probably dubbed over).

You may laugh, but she's really locking down the roles as a Teenager's mom.

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

Hav posted:


You may laugh, but she's really locking down the roles as a Teenager's mom.

I'm sure Vic feels grief.

big nipples big life
May 12, 2014
Has this game made it to the thread yet?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXHVzX6viNA

Silent Hunter meets Elite

aleksendr
May 14, 2014

Tippis posted:

Wtf is a snoopy cap?

The better question is, once again, "Why ?"

I mean it make sense now, some nations astronauts are not subject to regulation haircuts and you need some way to make sure the com gear stay in place during EVA since once your in you cant touch or adjust it. (Fun fact, EVA helmets have little patches of velcro inside so you can rub your nose on them in case of itch) Coms are also prone to glitch and malfunctions, so i assume it is much easier to fix a realtively cheap snoopy cap (real name is the CCA, communication carrier assembly) instead of working on a costly and precious suit helmet if coms where built in. You probably also upgrade your com hardware more often than the custom made helmet.

But in a world where you can pump gravity and space suits with nipplejets are dime a dozen why would coms not be integrated into the UEE mass manufactured suits/armors ?

Even better, why do UEE personnel not given communication implants as part of the enlisting package ? We are nearly there already today :

http://www.washington.edu/news/2016...hat-talk-wi-fi/

Even CIG approach to versimilitude is hosed.

aleksendr fucked around with this message at 14:06 on Jul 31, 2017

Space Skeleton
Sep 28, 2004

A lot of sci-fi properties do this where they are hanging on to 1980s and 1990s ideas of what sci-fi is but a lot of the gadgets end up being lower tech than real things we have now. Classic example is anything Star Trek still using communicators, datapads, tricorders and so on when we have smartphones now which do a lot of that stuff but better, there are even phones which take different kinds of scientific measurements.

Hav
Dec 11, 2009

Fun Shoe

big nipples big life posted:

Has this game made it to the thread yet?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXHVzX6viNA

Silent Hunter meets Elite

Looks horrible. I mean, they're going for a 16-bit aesthetic, but why? The interface is a literal mess.

aleksendr posted:

so i assume it is much easier to fix a realtively cheap snoopy cap (real name is the CCA, communication carrier assembly) instead of working on a costly and precious suit helmet if coms where built in. You probably also upgrade your com hardware more often than the custom made helmet.

Comms are independent of the helmet because a speaker in a helmet is terrible. It's a fairly decent solution for keeping hair contained back in the early days, but we've moved towards headsets and earpieces because of advances in plastics; these guys are harkening back to the days when the Shuttle burn computers were 386s.

Space Skeleton posted:

A lot of sci-fi properties do this where they are hanging on to 1980s and 1990s ideas of what sci-fi is but a lot of the gadgets end up being lower tech than real things we have now.

Space 1999 kinda called the mobile, which was fun, although theirs was a multifunction device with a tiny CRT in the end. Display technologies, batteries and radio have advanced a poo poo-ton in the past couple of decades from the high point of Glen A Larson's TV output in the 1980s. Robotics is a lot less cute, too.

Hav fucked around with this message at 14:12 on Jul 31, 2017

aleksendr
May 14, 2014
I agree, and done well you get a wonderfull feeling of "retro tech", the best recent example being "Alien - Isolation". Or take "Rebel Galaxy", the moment you boot it up you instantly get the feeling "Trucker in space" and that feeling is there everywhere, from the music to the bar where you meet npcs.

But in SC case the art direction and tone is all over the place. You get your "rusty bucket of bolt" feeling from some ships like the terrapin or starlancer but they fly in the same galaxy than the super advanced looking stealth bomber and the alien chinese flying fish.

Having a consistent tone is key to solid world building and "construction of the whole" in a multimedia art piece.

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Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015





aleksendr posted:

The better question is, once again, "Why ?"

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