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Gravity_Storm
Mar 1, 2016

I still havent recovered from that thing with the ramp. Tres funny and a beautiful metaphor for the whole SC project.

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AP
Jul 12, 2004

One Ring to fool them all
One Ring to find them
One Ring to milk them all
and pockets fully line them
Grimey Drawer

FMguru posted:

Yeppp. All that staff, working fulltime with benefits and salaries, making an endless stream of zero-content web shows like ATV and 10FTC (complete with sets and producers and credit sequences and props and cameras and editing equipment) and holding splashy offsite events like CItizenCon and Gamescom, all to promote a game that has already sold itself to its target audience.

I mean, the marketing spend for this game should have been an intern sending out a monthly email newsletter with a status report and some screen shots. But that wouldn't have been enough to justify the seven-figure annual salary for the VP of Marketing, so this whole pointless and expensive empire had to be build for her.

When this thing finally craters and people ask "where did the $160 million go?", a big part of the answer will be the all this utterly unnecessary marketing make-work for a game that supposedly didn't need to spend anything on marketing in the first place.

I agree with your point, however Citizens will point out that the back of the t-shirts for quite a few people there say volunteer and so will be unpaid.

The streamers they flew in though, not so much.

https://twitter.com/SteelSeries/status/890289135042396160

Also new full time Greek Cinematographer at LA from looks of it, oddly, two new Greek members of staff in Derby too.

https://twitter.com/Relshin_alot

AP fucked around with this message at 08:40 on Aug 30, 2017

Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?
Poor little darlin' with a chip out of her heart
It's like acting in a movie,when you got the wrong part.......

Palpek
Dec 27, 2008


Do you feel it, Zach?
My coffee warned me about it.


One thing I don't get is that if CIG has 400 employees then why can't they just pump out different linear demos for SC every year to keep the hype going by showing a variety of missions, environments and scenarios? None of those would actually have to work as a part of the full game of course but that's exactly what the latest demo was so why do they refuse to keep the hype train going? Surely a year would be enough time to build a new level with a new basic mission. What are those hundreds of people working on otherwise, there's really nothing to show for those numbers - pumping out spaceship jpgs only takes a small dedicated team to keep going.

AP
Jul 12, 2004

One Ring to fool them all
One Ring to find them
One Ring to milk them all
and pockets fully line them
Grimey Drawer
https://twitter.com/discolando/status/895453946277318657

SomethingJones
Mar 6, 2016

<3

ManofManyAliases posted:

Well, apparently the surprise was the face-tracking tech. I wasn't too impressed.

I hope you are well and in good spirits.

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here

SelenicMartian posted:

The manpad doesn't even have splash damage.

http://i.imgur.com/EbWndG1.mp4

Wait, that gun is shooting the whole time?

SomethingJones
Mar 6, 2016

<3

Look how fun it is to work for CIG

come work for CIG

look at how fun and goof it is working at CIG

please work for CIG

AP
Jul 12, 2004

One Ring to fool them all
One Ring to find them
One Ring to milk them all
and pockets fully line them
Grimey Drawer
https://twitter.com/discolando/status/901495522724380678

radd
Jun 16, 2001

Super Spacefortress

Internet Protocol as a Roberts' Product.

IPaaRP.

SomethingJones
Mar 6, 2016

<3

Check out this blooper

radd
Jun 16, 2001

Super Spacefortress

ComfyPants posted:

No more game to play, crumbling away
I'm the source of self-destruction
Programmers in fear, pubes they had to shear
Bleeding cash for game's construction

See me you will see
Thumb is all you need
Dedicated to
How I'm milking you

Come pledging faster
Enrich your master
Your dough burns faster
Enrich your master, master!

Master of spaceships is pulling your strings
Twisting your mind to sell you on dreams
Blinded by me you won't have a game
Give me your Visa and I'll make wild claims

Crobberts, Crobberts!

Be a contractor and you'll take the blame!

Crobberts, Crobberts!

Doesn't work, no way, whales will be betrayed
Project death becoming clearer
Game will never see version number 3
AI breakfast scenes are dearer

Trust me you will see
More is all we need
Dedicated to
Trips to the EU

Come pledging faster
Enrich your master
Your dough burns faster
Enrich your master, master!

Master of spaceships is pulling your strings
Twisting your mind to sell you on dreams
Blinded by me you won't have a game
Give me your AMEX and I'll make wild claims

Crobberts, Crobberts!

Gameplay is measured in seconds per frame!

Crobberts, Crobberts
CROBBERTS, CRObbertsss

Crobberts, Crobberts where's the dreams that I've been after?
Crobberts, Crobberts, you promised only lies
Clipping, clipping, all I see in this is clipping
Postponed, postponed, fidelity revised

FIX IT!!!

Nothing's worth all that, a year to fix the chat
Still no game without a reason
Permanent delays, count our numbered days
Coutts will own us by next season

When the money's dry
CIG will die
I will run away
With hefty severance pay

Come pledging faster
Enrich your master
Your dough burns faster
Enrich your master, master!

Master of spaceships is pulling your strings
Twisting your mind to sell you on dreams
Blinded by me you won't have a game
Mastercard's fine for hand-waving claims

Crobberts, Crobberts!

Gotta brush up on the car-selling game!

Crobberts, Crobberts!


This is brilliant.

:perfect:

no_recall
Aug 17, 2015

Lipstick Apathy

Palpek posted:

One thing I don't get is that if CIG has 400 employees then why can't they just pump out different linear demos for SC every year to keep the hype going by showing a variety of missions, environments and scenarios? None of those would actually have to work as a part of the full game of course but that's exactly what the latest demo was so why do they refuse to keep the hype train going? Surely a year would be enough time to build a new level with a new basic mission. What are those hundreds of people working on otherwise, there's really nothing to show for those numbers - pumping out spaceship jpgs only takes a small dedicated team to keep going.

Technically they should have enough art assets to build multiple games. Its because of CR's promise to bring the most fidelitous experience known to man, they have to keep rebuilding 90% of it.

Fangrim
Aug 23, 2017

Every day I hate the world just a tiny bit more...

Mr.Tophat posted:

Remember, it's never been done before

This is important
Never been done you say... Fidelity, AI, the Game to End all Games.

I watched Aliens last night, and seeing (especially) the lander scenes made me think... I bet that's exactly how SC backers see the final game:

Envisioned Scenario:
An 8 man group of badasses sits in a dropship, preparing to land on an alien world. One guy, whom noone likes, stays back at the dropship and takes it back into orbit.

Group of badasses enter a huge derelict ship and starts sweep for the mission objective. After Miles Eckhart's crate is retreived an alert blares, and a relentless enemy attack begins.

An epic battle back to the extraction zone begins, fighting fidelitious AI-controlled enemies on ground and in ships ("You forgot to bring the railgun? GAME OVER MAN!, GAME OVER!"), they slowly advance to the extration point while defending the crate-carrier. Exhausted, they call aforementioned guy noone likes (he's been sitting in orbit the whole time) to bring down the landing craft, so they can get out of there.

Lander guy takes dropship down from orbit, and everyone enters the landing craft, and straps in. There's an order to go, and the lander screeches through the sky while a couple of badasses who sits at the rear of the craft, dispatch of baddies through the open hatch in the back. Hatch closes at the last possible moment.

Everyone enters the capital ship, which probably is owned by the lander guy, since he's the only one who could afford the jpeg. He bought it to compensate for his extremely poor social and gaming skills by buying ships noone else can afford, so they'll have to have him in the group.

The horror! Badasses discover that an alien lifeform has attached itself to the hull of the dropship. It turns out the crate contains an invaluable egg, laid by the alien. An intense battle ensues through the corridors of the captial ship, ending with the creature's defeat and a hefty mission bonus for its carcass.

Miles gives each party member one of his jackets (that's the bonus for the carcass) and a fuckton of cash. He still wears 3 spare jackets.

Everything presented in a level of fidelity never before seen!

Reality Scenario 1:
After a grueling 50-minute session to get everyone on the same server, one party member disconnects.

Another 30 minutes is wasted, as the guy who disconnected was the guy carryng the railgun. A badass goes to get a replacement. Everyone else goes AFK, as to minimize the chance of a bug or a crash occuring while waiting

1 member falls through the floor of the dropship while entering atmosphere.

Only 2 of the remaining 6 party members can see the crate. Unfortunately one of those guys is the one carrying the mission essential railgun, which he cannot use due to having to carry the crate. The other guy who can see it needs to leave in 5 mins, because of homework.

They decide to abort the mission and just leave. 2 members gets stuck in the hallway on the way out and have to relog. They end up on diffent servers, and logs out to play Sonic Mania instead.

The remaining 3 badasses and the pilot leaves the planet. 1 badass falls through the closed sidedoor at takeoff. Pilot tries to land again to pick him up, but unfortunately he's crushed by the dropship ramp.

Back at the dropship, 1 badass barely make it out before dropship clips halfway through the capital ship floor and gets stuck there.

The remaining badass and the pilot manage to clip through the roof of the dropship.

Game crashes because the scripted alien attached to the dropship is dependant on the crate with the egg being present. As the crate is not on the ship, and the game has no contingency for this scenario, game client is programmed to do its 15-minute reboot cycle.

Reality Scenario 2:
Badasses ever gets to leave Delamar, because of an army of Goons blotting out the sun in zerg-like amounts of Auroras, waiting for anyone trying to leave or approach any point of interest, shoots them before they even get to board the capital ship.

Fangrim fucked around with this message at 09:15 on Aug 30, 2017

AP
Jul 12, 2004

One Ring to fool them all
One Ring to find them
One Ring to milk them all
and pockets fully line them
Grimey Drawer

ManofManyAliases posted:

Well, apparently the surprise was the face-tracking tech. I wasn't too impressed.

But the faceware stuff has never been done before :gary:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSVUHjb6tjQ

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

XK posted:

The only explanation is there is something badly broken with vehicle to vehicle interactions when passengers are involved.

I think you're on to something here. Just another byline on the failure of Star Citizen though.

Sandweed
Sep 7, 2006

All your friends are me.

FMguru posted:

Yeppp. All that staff, working fulltime with benefits and salaries, making an endless stream of zero-content web shows like ATV and 10FTC (complete with sets and producers and credit sequences and props and cameras and editing equipment) and holding splashy offsite events like CItizenCon and Gamescom, all to promote a game that has already sold itself to its target audience.

I mean, the marketing spend for this game should have been an intern sending out a monthly email newsletter with a status report and some screen shots. But that wouldn't have been enough to justify the seven-figure annual salary for the VP of Marketing, so this whole pointless and expensive empire had to be build for her.

When this thing finally craters and people ask "where did the $160 million go?", a big part of the answer will be the all this utterly unnecessary marketing make-work for a game that supposedly didn't need to spend anything on marketing in the first place.

LOL if you think that CIG is only gonna squeeze 6 more millions out of the whales.

AP
Jul 12, 2004

One Ring to fool them all
One Ring to find them
One Ring to milk them all
and pockets fully line them
Grimey Drawer
https://twitter.com/Welshy31/status/854961337625194496

no_recall
Aug 17, 2015

Lipstick Apathy

Wtf? Single ply?

SomethingJones
Mar 6, 2016

<3
So that's where the Squadron 42 script is!
















*drops mic*

Ramadu
Aug 25, 2004

2015 NFL MVP



pretty sure this is classified as a warcrime like burning popcorn or microwaving fish in the office

SomethingJones
Mar 6, 2016

<3
Photoshop the script title page onto the bog roll go

SomethingJones
Mar 6, 2016

<3
The loving stimpire text on it go go go

Laughing my rear end of at the thought of it

toanoradian
May 30, 2011


The happiest waffligator
On one hand it's all hilarious, on the other hand the amount of objects in the CIG buildings that this thread knows is scarily impressive.

stinch
Nov 21, 2013

Thoatse posted:

This is why I voted MVP on that survey from a few pages back. Crobbler started buttering that turkey last year, now it's just a matter of expectation management and narrative massaging before they can lock themselves safely behind that iron clad TOS

cr already killed the mvp with feature creep.

AP
Jul 12, 2004

One Ring to fool them all
One Ring to find them
One Ring to milk them all
and pockets fully line them
Grimey Drawer

toanoradian posted:

On one hand it's all hilarious, on the other hand the amount of objects in the CIG buildings that this thread knows is scarily impressive.

After Derek got involved they locked social media down tight, it's been 2 years, so many new staff and people forget. Also everything is on fire which probably doesn't encourage people to be careful..

AP
Jul 12, 2004

One Ring to fool them all
One Ring to find them
One Ring to milk them all
and pockets fully line them
Grimey Drawer

toanoradian posted:

On one hand it's all hilarious, on the other hand the amount of objects in the CIG buildings that this thread knows is scarily impressive.

Remember to wash those hands.

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here

Mr.Tophat posted:

In the end, it'll all be worth it for the 72 virgins in the 'verse

But you can only get 12 players in an instance before the game crashes.

McGiggins
Apr 4, 2014

by R. Guyovich
Lipstick Apathy
I gotta question, shut the gently caress up and hear me out:

What happens, right, when someone is flying their squad of baddasses in a dropship or multicrew fighter, and the pilot disconnects? Like, in a dropship maybe someone can scramble to the pilot seat fast enough to save someone, if crobblers envisions such a thing to be possible, but in a multicrew fighter with a gunseat and no redundant pilot controls?


Hahahaha. The best thing in the world would be the Forums Post: "So I disconnected and lost my Idris: is this covered under LTI?"

Iceclaw
Nov 4, 2009

Fa la lanky down dilly, motherfuckers.

NoNotTheMindProbe posted:

But you can only get 12 players in an instance before the game crashes.

Bunnyman seems to be doing alright with that. :stonk:

Aramoro
Jun 1, 2012





One of my friends swears by this method of telling how a business is doing. It doesn't matter how much they spend on promos and advertising when they start cutting on creature comforts that's when they're in trouble. Going from branded to off brand things in the kitchen and toilet, thinner toilet paper etc.

tuo
Jun 17, 2016

Aramoro posted:

One of my friends swears by this method of telling how a business is doing. It doesn't matter how much they spend on promos and advertising when they start cutting on creature comforts that's when they're in trouble. Going from branded to off brand things in the kitchen and toilet, thinner toilet paper etc.

Sandi Gardiner kitchen pic tweet with brand names on everything incoming.

E: taxe

tuo fucked around with this message at 10:58 on Aug 30, 2017

thatguy
Feb 5, 2003

SomethingJones posted:

The loving stimpire text on it go go go

Laughing my rear end of at the thought of it

zcrow
May 6, 2014

Ah.. yeah... um... tup tup tup tup tup.. this is something we'll add down the line

:eyepop:

AP
Jul 12, 2004

One Ring to fool them all
One Ring to find them
One Ring to milk them all
and pockets fully line them
Grimey Drawer

https://www.instagram.com/p/BUGDKrVBtC5/

tuo
Jun 17, 2016


:five:

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



Aramoro posted:

One of my friends swears by this method of telling how a business is doing. It doesn't matter how much they spend on promos and advertising when they start cutting on creature comforts that's when they're in trouble. Going from branded to off brand things in the kitchen and toilet, thinner toilet paper etc.
I do too. I've see it happen in a few places. Sundries like that are a big cost centre that is easy to reduce by changing to discount suppliers, and doesn't directly affect productivity or raise questions in the way that cutting hours or staff does. If the business recovers then it also takes ages for it to start buying the good stuff again, too, for the same reasons.

Combat Theory
Jul 16, 2017

ComfyPants posted:

No more game to play, crumbling away
I'm the source of self-destruction
Programmers in fear, pubes they had to shear
Bleeding cash for game's construction

See me you will see
Thumb is all you need
Dedicated to
How I'm milking you

Come pledging faster
Enrich your master
Your dough burns faster
Enrich your master, master!

Master of spaceships is pulling your strings
Twisting your mind to sell you on dreams
Blinded by me you won't have a game
Give me your Visa and I'll make wild claims

Crobberts, Crobberts!

Be a contractor and you'll take the blame!

Crobberts, Crobberts!

Doesn't work, no way, whales will be betrayed
Project death becoming clearer
Game will never see version number 3
AI breakfast scenes are dearer

Trust me you will see
More is all we need
Dedicated to
Trips to the EU

Come pledging faster
Enrich your master
Your dough burns faster
Enrich your master, master!

Master of spaceships is pulling your strings
Twisting your mind to sell you on dreams
Blinded by me you won't have a game
Give me your AMEX and I'll make wild claims

Crobberts, Crobberts!

Gameplay is measured in seconds per frame!

Crobberts, Crobberts
CROBBERTS, CRObbertsss

Crobberts, Crobberts where's the dreams that I've been after?
Crobberts, Crobberts, you promised only lies
Clipping, clipping, all I see in this is clipping
Postponed, postponed, fidelity revised

FIX IT!!!

Nothing's worth all that, a year to fix the chat
Still no game without a reason
Permanent delays, count our numbered days
Coutts will own us by next season

When the money's dry
CIG will die
I will run away
With hefty severance pay

Come pledging faster
Enrich your master
Your dough burns faster
Enrich your master, master!

Master of spaceships is pulling your strings
Twisting your mind to sell you on dreams
Blinded by me you won't have a game
Mastercard's fine for hand-waving claims

Crobberts, Crobberts!

Gotta brush up on the car-selling game!

Crobberts, Crobberts!

:five: :five: :five:

I don't know what it is but I also find myself re wording Metallica songs to the star citizen disaster in my head...

E:


This is beautiful

Combat Theory fucked around with this message at 11:47 on Aug 30, 2017

his nibs
Feb 27, 2016

:kayak:Welcome to the:kayak:
Dream Factory
:kayak:
Grimey Drawer

holy lol :five:

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peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos

Spatial posted:

The ramp that broke the rover's back:



Production is ramping up-

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