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Nyast
Nov 14, 2017

BLAZING AT THE
SPEED OF LIGHT

Variable 5 posted:

My favorite Derek Smart Internet Warlord moment was after he started posting and people made fun of him and he left upset, an admin got him to come back on the promise that Derek would be able to mod the forum and Derek's first moderator action was to (try to) give someone a 30 day probation for disagreeing with him.

No, wait, it's when people were discussing Ryan Archer's "art" too much so he threatened to not post.

No, wait, it's when he told Moma to doxx himself and gave him a deadline and also threatened other people in the thread that had made fun of him, because the only reason anyone would ever make fun of Derek Smart, PhD is because they're shills for Star Citizen and must be outed and shamed publicly.

No, wait, it's when he called a friend of his in the Defense Department to investigate a fake Vietnam War Veteran on twitter.

No, wait, it's when he got called out for not attributing goons for making images he used on his blog posts, and one of the goons he stole from said he didn't mind, so Derek twisted it to say that goons demanded they not be attributed.

No, wait, it's when he kept telling TheAgent that TheAgent was wrong about real-life conversations Derek was nowhere around for.

No, wait, it's when goons were literally saying they didn't feel comfortable posting in the thread because Derek was batshit crazy and was investigating everyone that disagreed with him.

No, wait, it's when he called goons "nazis" for suggesting that the Escape key open a menu in his games.

Was it before or after he sued Montoya ?

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Tinfoil Papercut
Jul 27, 2016

by Athanatos

Contingency posted:

Maybe I started out on the Internet too early, but putting your real name right next to your username is pretty much a waiver against a claim of pseudo-anonymity. There's following a trail of breadcrumbs in whois and forum account profiles (unintentional disclosure), and there's publishing stuff online as Bob "xX_DogRaper_Xx" Jones (intentional disclosure). If you don't want people to know you are Bob Jones, don't say "I, xX_DogRaper_Xx, am Bob Jones" and act shocked when people tell Bob hi. The doxing aspect is dubious, and the criminality even more so without an intent to harass.

Thanks for the insight, Mr. HYMAN G. RICKOVER

:smuggo:

Scruffpuff
Dec 23, 2015

Fidelity. Wait, was I'm working on again?

Hav posted:

My problem with the whole 'you inherit the stink of your company' is that us fuckers on the inside to try to change things for the good; we ask the awkward questions in all hands meetings that don't get reported to the press (they get a separate meeting with appropriately enthused 'employees'), we promote the standards and occasionally blow the whistle on bullshit.

In the case of Chris Roberts, he doesn't keep anyone around who tries to fix his bullshit. In addition to that, I very much doubt any of the entry-level developers at CIG are learning industry standard best practices in nearly any associated discipline. So at least in CIG's case, having worked there might not be seen as a good thing.

Zzr
Oct 6, 2016

Scruffpuff posted:

"immersive" game:

"non-immersive" game:

Star Citizen is none of these.

Tinfoil Papercut
Jul 27, 2016

by Athanatos

Zzr posted:

Star Citizen is none of these.

immersive reddit fantasy

Peter.Quint
Mar 16, 2018

Morningwoodpecker posted:

Classy reference.

I could reminisce about Derek for months.

Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015





:reddit: posted:


Cool, so that's gross. But then also:

:reddit: posted:

I'm just sayin... This looks completely consensual. So.

But just in case, my job in the Verse is... well I'm a serial killer who has learned to channel his psychopathy. Anybody wants me to take out some trash, I'm at Grim Hex when I'm not out and about. You know how to reach me.

my job in the Verse is... well I'm a serial killer who has learned to channel his psychopathy.

*somewhere, quietly, Linkin Park's "Crawling" begins to play*

Mangoose
Dec 11, 2007

Come out with your pants down!

Beet Wagon posted:

Cool, so that's gross. But then also:


my job in the Verse is... well I'm a serial killer who has learned to channel his psychopathy.

*somewhere, quietly, Linkin Park's "Crawling" begins to play*



Can you imagine being killed by that dude? Cringing and bleeding to death at the same time?

E: like use some god drat instagram filters or SOMETHING

TheAgent
Feb 16, 2002

The call is coming from inside Dr. House
Grimey Drawer
whenever a gal is about to give me head I make sure to step all over her fuckin hands as I crouch walk on a nearby counter

really gets her in the mood

IcarusUpHigh
Dec 20, 2016



Those same trolls just covered your rear end from being Doxxed by the Big D.

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Beet Wagon posted:

Cool, so that's gross. But then also:



That dude's head is tiny.


TheAgent posted:

whenever a gal is about to give me head I make sure to step all over her fuckin hands as I crouch walk on a nearby counter

really gets her in the mood

stop doxxing me!

Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015





Mangoose posted:

Can you imagine being killed by that dude? Cringing and bleeding to death at the same time?

E: like use some god drat instagram filters or SOMETHING

In fairness to that guy I think that picture was probably pre-instagram bust also in fairness to that guy :laffo:

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Beet Wagon posted:

In fairness to that guy I think that picture was probably pre-instagram bust also in fairness to that guy :laffo:

His belt is way cooler than MoMA's, at least give him that.

Daztek
Jun 2, 2006



Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

Beet Wagon posted:

Cool, so that's gross. But then also:


my job in the Verse is... well I'm a serial killer who has learned to channel his psychopathy.

*somewhere, quietly, Linkin Park's "Crawling" begins to play*



What is the combination for his padlock?

Daztek
Jun 2, 2006



actually

IcarusUpHigh
Dec 20, 2016

It's 2015 all over again...



Progressed how exactly?

IcarusUpHigh fucked around with this message at 17:57 on Apr 10, 2018

Contingency
Jun 2, 2007

MURDERER

Hav posted:

Yeah, I just don't know how people do the translation from complaining about your order at Wendys to any other company. I certainly wasn't making a moral argument. The kind of people that try to exert external pressure are...odd.


There's the difference between public disclosure and the new fashion of simply pointing people incapable of doing a whois lookup at a 'target', given the lethal circumstances behind at least one _swatting_ (and the swatters seeming complete lack of remorse). It's _vastly irresponsible_ to disclose or other point to disclosure of information not the least because the loving golden rule, 'do to others as you wish done to yourself' is more basic than any fine discussion of the ins and outs of what 'doxxing' is. The internet includes a lot of people that are _outright disturbed_ that tend to draw very straight lines between perceived motives and actions despite the whole cause and effect thing.

I got doxxed back in the 90s, and it wasn't a lot of fun.

Likewise, although legal filings contain personally identifiable information, you're expected to practice some reticence over republishing the information out of context.

Also there's a public interest angle which is always, always a hard 'no' unless you have press credentials. Even in those cases, you don't loving do it without really good reasons.

There's a guy who posts articles by the name of Bob "TomServo" Mackey. If you come across a TomServo on another site that says he writes for SA, is it Doxing to reply "Hi Bob!" It would really be a stretch for TomServo to claim to be doxxed. Whether or not doxxing is bad is immaterial in cases where it's not even clear it is doxxing. I believe to even begin to invoke "not a public figure" protection, you need to be psuedo-anonymous, and putting your name out there as Bob "xX_DogRaper_Xx" Jones means you aren't psuedo-anonymous. I do agree 100% that you shouldn't say "hey guys, xX_DogRaper_Xx is Bob Jones, send him a message" as that is harassment, which is covered under cyberstalking statutes. For less than harassment, I am sympathetic--if you say "I, xX_DogRaper_Xx, am Bob Jones" and pick a fight online or offline, you should expect that public knowledge be used against you, and "I, xX_DogRaper_Xx, am Bob Jones" is a statement made for the public, even if it is ultimately to your detriment. I have a little sympathy for unintentional disclosure (depends on the circumstances), and none for intentional disclosure.

I doxxed a guy once about a decade ago--he was a script kiddie, and defaced a string of forums. He cheaped out and didn't use a privacy proxy on the music server on his crew's website. I made his contact info public on one of those forums. Legally, he should have been brought up for charges under CFAA and been nailed to the wall. Scaring the crap out of him is not a pleasant thing to do or have done to you, but the legal system would been considerably worse. Now with 2261A, I can't do that with the intent of harassment. Doxing as a tool is still useful, and while I don't agree with all of Derek Smart's applications, I do with a lot of them. If someone is committing libel against you, you have a right to legal protection. This protection is costly, and I find having the offending party retract libelous statements at no charge to either party is a favorable outcome. If it takes "hey Bob Jones, your comments are illegal and by me knowing who you are, the chance of legal action is considerably higher that you initially believed" for that discussion to take place, that's fine by me. That's not harassment, and without a harassment component, it's not cyberstalking.

Tinfoil Papercut posted:

Thanks for the insight, Mr. HYMAN G. RICKOVER

:smuggo:

For real, there are places I go by by first initial last name as my username, and I have been "outed" as a shoplifter, a retired army NCO, and a doctor in the local community. People will run with the faintest detail.

Contingency fucked around with this message at 17:52 on Apr 10, 2018

Renegret
May 26, 2007

THANK YOU FOR CALLING HELP DOG, INC.

YOUR POSITION IN THE QUEUE IS *pbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbt*


Cat Army Sworn Enemy
Ding dong the witch is dead

Golli
Jan 5, 2013



I am looking forward to Derek's next blog.

"The Permabanning of Derek Smart by the Coward Beet Wagon"

TheAgent
Feb 16, 2002

The call is coming from inside Dr. House
Grimey Drawer
Erin "TheAgent" Roberts

mdxi
Mar 13, 2006

to JERK OFF is to be close to GOD... only with SPURTING

I'm not angry at The Warlord so much as I'm disappointed in him. I really liked the concept he pitched at the beginning and would occasionally start up a refrain of: an old-school developer, once known as the internet's enfant terrible, but now older wiser and at peace. Able to absorb and laugh off the slings and arrows of those who held onto old ideas and old grudges. Owning his old, bad, behaviors and now here to act as a foil and counterweight to noted hilariously large watch enthusiast and manthumb Chris Roberts.

But in the end, not so much. And furthermore,

Not Alex
Oct 9, 2012

Cut loose before the god eaters show up.
There are a lot of goons in this thread. Surely we can find someone who works with computers in a Fortune 50 company to follow kazan around and declare his posts invalid because of their better credentials.

I just want to see that meltdown.

Lladre
Jun 28, 2011


Soiled Meat
He is still reading this thread in his insane bubble sort algorithm, copying and pasting new names into his notepad of "People who will be blocked".


Everyone on his blocked list has been investigated by a private detective for dirt. The guy is mental. And not in a nice/cool way.

Variable 5
Apr 17, 2007
We do these things not because they are easy, but because we thought they would be easy.
Grimey Drawer

Golli posted:

I am looking forward to Derek's next blog.

"The Permabanning of Derek Smart by the Coward Beet Wagon"

I'm still waiting on the list of FactsAreUseless's Star Citizen jaypigs.

Dooguk
Oct 11, 2016

Pillbug

Beet Wagon posted:

Cool, so that's gross. But then also:


my job in the Verse is... well I'm a serial killer who has learned to channel his psychopathy.

*somewhere, quietly, Linkin Park's "Crawling" begins to play*



To the tune of "I walk the line" by Johnny Cash.....

I keep a tight hold on this sword of mine
I keep my flies wide open all the time
I keep my pants up with a piece of twine
Say you'll be mine, and pull the twine

Variable 5
Apr 17, 2007
We do these things not because they are easy, but because we thought they would be easy.
Grimey Drawer

Lladre posted:

He is still reading this thread in his insane bubble sort algorithm, copying and pasting new names into his notepad of "People who will be blocked".


Everyone on his blocked list has been investigated by a private detective for dirt. The guy is mental. And not in a nice/cool way.


Yeah, but that was, like, two years ago, so it doesn't count.

Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015





"I get high blood pressure just seeing that subreddit's name"

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Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015





Daztek posted:

actually


Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Beet Wagon posted:

Cool, so that's gross. But then also:

I've seen Ex Machina, I know how this ends

Hav
Dec 11, 2009

Fun Shoe

Contingency posted:

I doxxed a guy

Say no more.

Golli
Jan 5, 2013



Don't forget folks, the first slapfight of the undercard leading to the Crytek v CIG main event is this Friday.

Will Magistrate Munn lay down the decision on the spot, or will he be so stunned by Fire and Fury that he has to recover for a few weeks before eking out a decision memo months later?

Dark Off
Aug 14, 2015




Golli posted:

Don't forget folks, the first slapfight of the undercard leading to the Crytek v CIG main event is this Friday.

Will Magistrate Munn lay down the decision on the spot, or will he be so stunned by Fire and Fury that he has to recover for a few weeks before eking out a decision memo months later?

actually they postponed it to tuesday. So 2 1 weeks

Renegret
May 26, 2007

THANK YOU FOR CALLING HELP DOG, INC.

YOUR POSITION IN THE QUEUE IS *pbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbt*


Cat Army Sworn Enemy

Lladre posted:


Everyone on his blocked list has been investigated by a private detective for dirt. The guy is mental. And not in a nice/cool way.


Renegret:

Likes to shitpost, usually from work.

Occasionally says something dumb and needs to apologize.

Does not own any .jpgs

Made fun of star citizen even during the initial kickstarter.

Nicholas
Mar 7, 2001

Were those not fine days, when we drank of clear honey, and spoke in calm tones of our love for the stuff?

Beet Wagon posted:

"I get high blood pressure just seeing that subreddit's name"

Only registered members can see post attachments!

please be sure to link all reddit screenshots to their original posts so we can vote brigade.

Baxta
Feb 18, 2004

Needs More Pirate

tuo posted:

I aggree to this permaban 100,00%.

5/7 for this post. Well done.

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

Beet Wagon posted:

Cool, so that's gross. But then also:


my job in the Verse is... well I'm a serial killer who has learned to channel his psychopathy.

*somewhere, quietly, Linkin Park's "Crawling" begins to play*



Great. Just loving great. This is so repulsive I have clawed my eyes out.


You know what? gently caress fidelity. gently caress it right in the mouth.

Nicholas
Mar 7, 2001

Were those not fine days, when we drank of clear honey, and spoke in calm tones of our love for the stuff?

Beet Wagon posted:

Cool, so that's gross. But then also:


my job in the Verse is... well I'm a serial killer who has learned to channel his psychopathy.

*somewhere, quietly, Linkin Park's "Crawling" begins to play*



i always wonder what happens just before and after photos like this are taken

same with the bunnyman photo

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

IcarusUpHigh posted:

It's 2015 all over again...



Progressed how exactly?

The devs notest stuff all the time as well.

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big nipples big life
May 12, 2014

Renegret posted:

Renegret:

Likes to shitpost, usually from work.

Occasionally says something dumb and needs to apologize.

Does not own any .jpgs

Made fun of star citizen even during the initial kickstarter.

BNBL:

Is retarded and snarky

Has a really good av though

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