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Dementropy
Aug 23, 2010



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The Titanic
Sep 15, 2016

Unsinkable

The good news here is that by time this space man is ready for sexual exploits, his partner will have likely gotten away.

I hope that CR isn't going for the lack of fidelity where you just "select" an article of clothing to put on or off. I want, for my immersion, putting on and off each article. Every clip, every Velcro strip, every button... I want the spaceman to fasten and unfasten each one. Otherwise how do we know that each piece of clothing is sufficiently realistic?

Mirificus
Oct 29, 2004

Kings need not raise their voices to be heard



ComfyPants
Mar 20, 2002

Why does CIG want to avoid discovery, what do they have to hide?

negative-56 points.

The Titanic
Sep 15, 2016

Unsinkable

TheAgent posted:

but you haven't sent me an updaaaaateeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

I know. It's high on my to do list. I got to fix the boobs and then create the sufficiently provocative clothing while also remaining family friendly but borderline. It's coming! :)

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

ComfyPants posted:

Why does CIG want to avoid discovery, what do they have to hide?

negative-56 points.

realize this: not even the backers want to know what happened to their money

Redundant
Sep 24, 2011

Even robots have feelings!
Star Citizen: I'm right, and you're wrong (citation needed)

Considering the only space game I've played much of is Deathwar I honestly think SC might have provided me with the most hours if enjoyment. Its a vicarious enjoyment deftly enabled by some top tier posting, bit enjoyment none the less. I think my drunk brain is trying to say that thread, you're my favourite space game. See you in the verse, commando's!

Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015





Taintrunner posted:

realize this: not even the backers want to know what happened to their money

As long as you never open the box, it could still contain a wonderful surprise!

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Beet Wagon posted:

As long as you never open the box, it could still contain a wonderful surprise!

We like to call this phenomenon: Gardiner's Bear.

AngusPodgorny
Jun 3, 2004

Please to be restful, it is only a puffin that has from the puffin place outbroken.
But if Crytek gets discovery then they'll see the Star Citizen code and they'll use it to make the greatest space game ever, and it'll save PC gaming, and it'll be the only game anyone ever needs to play again, and everyone will be happy. Except me, because I paid to win in this other game, and now no one else will be around to admire me.

The Titanic
Sep 15, 2016

Unsinkable

Agony Aunt posted:

That humanevil guy is pretty messed up in the head. He even seems to have forgot it was the Roberts' who put their kids front and center and it was DS who decried their use of kids as promotional material.

Dogeh posted:

All the pyscho-citizens seem to forget that.

Narrative alteration and changing the past hard enough is kind of a cornerstone of the whole SC plot and its followers. If I recall, all that happened was links to IMDB pages, non of which Derek put up for any of the kids or family. That was the Roberts' doing that. If you're famous enough to be on IMDB, or think you are, you can't really get upset when somebody says "hey look at this IMDB page!"

Mirificus
Oct 29, 2004

Kings need not raise their voices to be heard
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Aqua Seafoam Shame
Aug 20, 2018

by astral
Forgot to mention that about a decade ago I used to investigate UK-based corporate fraud as a bit of a sideline hobby. The whole shell company game CIG is playing is something that looks very familiar. For those following closely, I have one piece of advice: keep an eye on the Frankfurt Stock Exchange.

(I can elaborate, if requested).

Hav
Dec 11, 2009

Fun Shoe

Lord Stimperor posted:

That movie really seemed better in my childhood memory. Rewatched it as an adult and it was really weird and rapey in parts that clash quite starkly with modern sentiments.

Welcome to the eighties. Don’t look at any part of the 1970s in great detail.

Hav
Dec 11, 2009

Fun Shoe

Aqua Seafoam Shame posted:

Forgot to mention that about a decade ago I used to investigate UK-based corporate fraud as a bit of a sideline hobby. The whole shell company game CIG is playing is something that looks very familiar. For those following closely, I have one piece of advice: keep an eye on the Frankfurt Stock Exchange.

(I can elaborate, if requested).

:allears:

Also let us know what your favourite blockchain currency is that’s going to democratize banking.

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Aqua Seafoam Shame posted:

Forgot to mention that about a decade ago I used to investigate UK-based corporate fraud as a bit of a sideline hobby. The whole shell company game CIG is playing is something that looks very familiar. For those following closely, I have one piece of advice: keep an eye on the Frankfurt Stock Exchange.

(I can elaborate, if requested).

Goooo ooooonnnn...

Aqua Seafoam Shame
Aug 20, 2018

by astral

Hav posted:

:allears:

Also let us know what your favourite blockchain currency is that’s going to democratize banking.

Ha, honestly I'm woefully ignorant on blockchain. As for Frankfurt, that's the stock market of choice for shady outfits because the reporting requirements are extremely low. I heard a rumour they were going to reform this, but a quick Google search seems to indicate that that hasn't happened.

Remember that a UK-based company does not have to go public in the UK. You just need to find an exchange that will value your shares at an inflated value without asking too many questions. The Frankfurt Exchange has a number of tiers, and the lowest tier is pretty easy to get into, while still providing a veneer of respectability to those not in the know. Outside of Frankfurt, there are Chinese exchanges, as well as the OTC Pink Sheet (i.e. "Pinkies") market in North America (the market of choice for shady mining companies).

Given their actions to date, CIG must definitely be thinking of going this route. Whether they follow through is still an open question, I suppose.

Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015





Did... did we finally get our own German Auditor?

Scruffpuff
Dec 23, 2015

Fidelity. Wait, was I'm working on again?

tooterfish posted:

CIG is shady as all fuckery, but at the end of the day there's a huge ethical gulf between lying about your revolutionary videogame and lying about your revolutionary medical technology.

The citizens are in full agreement with this sentence. Just maybe not the way we'd like to think.

Thoatse
Feb 29, 2016

Lol said the scorpion, lmao

Aqua Seafoam Shame posted:

Nice! "My name is Aqua Seafoam Shame. It's been three months since I pre-ordered a 'season pass'..."

Hi Aqua Seafoam Shame

G0RF
Mar 19, 2015

Some galactic defender you are, Space Cadet.

Aqua Seafoam Shame posted:

Hello good people, finally dropped my $10 (or $13.6666 CAD or whatever it's going to be on exchange) and am officially de-lurking.

This thread is awesome, and a lifeline in a time when real-world news is too depressing to follow too closely. The antics of the most deluded game fans in world history (the SC folks, I mean) always manage to entertain in this epoch of incredulity.

Okay, so around the time Star Citizen was launched, two major events happened in my life. 1) I began a PhD program, and 2) I became a drug addict. About a year ago I got the PhD, and more recently (and more importantly) I got clean. Yet the world still waits for SC (that's just a figure of speech, the world clearly couldn't care less).

I only started following this debacle closely a few years ago. I remember eyeing those articles in Polygon and the like about three-figure spaceships before then and just rolling my eyes, but I never really bought into the hype. I did buy The Crew 2 on launch day, though (not on drugs), so feel free to launch into me for that.

I'm glad so many people here like games and cattes and dogges and I hope you don't mind me joining in the fun.

It’s always great to have new voices join and sincere congratulations for earning the PhD and kicking your habit, whatever it was.

Thoatse
Feb 29, 2016

Lol said the scorpion, lmao
https://i.imgur.com/lS21t2t.mp4

Aqua Seafoam Shame
Aug 20, 2018

by astral

G0RF posted:

It’s always great to have new voices join and sincere congratulations for earning the PhD and kicking your habit, whatever it was.

Much appreciated, thank you. The drug of choice was Dimenhydrinate, if you're curious.

colonelwest
Jun 30, 2018

☢️ Send nukes every daaaaaay! ☢️
https://tinyurl.com/nukepost

Hav posted:

:allears:

Also let us know what your favourite blockchain currency is that’s going to democratize banking.

They're all going to democratize banking, just like the internet is going to democratize the world, tear down interpersonal and international boundaries, and bring about a global anarcho-capitalist utopia that also has a strong social and environmental conscience. Oh wait sorry this isn't a mid 2000's international politics class.

colonelwest fucked around with this message at 03:19 on Aug 20, 2018

colonelwest
Jun 30, 2018

☢️ Send nukes every daaaaaay! ☢️
https://tinyurl.com/nukepost

Aqua Seafoam Shame posted:

Ha, honestly I'm woefully ignorant on blockchain. As for Frankfurt, that's the stock market of choice for shady outfits because the reporting requirements are extremely low. I heard a rumour they were going to reform this, but a quick Google search seems to indicate that that hasn't happened.

Remember that a UK-based company does not have to go public in the UK. You just need to find an exchange that will value your shares at an inflated value without asking too many questions. The Frankfurt Exchange has a number of tiers, and the lowest tier is pretty easy to get into, while still providing a veneer of respectability to those not in the know. Outside of Frankfurt, there are Chinese exchanges, as well as the OTC Pink Sheet (i.e. "Pinkies") market in North America (the market of choice for shady mining companies).

Given their actions to date, CIG must definitely be thinking of going this route. Whether they follow through is still an open question, I suppose.

Why would CIG ever go public though? A space PC game in development hell is a lot different than the tech startups making crazy promises of disruptive products and insane profit margins, that investors usually fetishize.

AlbieQuirky
Oct 9, 2012

Just me and my 🌊dragon🐉 hanging out
The best Python (and previously 1948 Show) sketch for Store Citizer repurposing is the Four Yorkshiremen sketch.

"You had a spine? Jammy bastard! I used to wake up in my wankpod, a liquid Lovecraftian horror, get eaten by the door--"

"You had a door? Luxury!"

Aqua Seafoam Shame
Aug 20, 2018

by astral

colonelwest posted:

Why would CIG ever go public though? A space PC game in development hell is a lot different than the tech startups making crazy promises of disruptive products and insane profit margins, that investors usually fetishize.

I honestly have no idea, but the docs filed with Companies House seem to indicate that they're moving in that direction, not to mention some of the rumours that have been floating around. I can say that outside investors are useful, but not necessary. Example: I invent a company with, let's say 10,000 shares valued at 1p apiece, and distribute these shares to friends and family. I then list my company somewhere where they value the shares at 10 pounds apiece. I've suddenly made my pals look a lot richer on paper. Sure, this value doesn't really exist, but they can leverage this imaginary wealth in other ways. If I happen to find an investor that is actually willing to take the shares at 10 pounds, so much the better, but in the meantime I'm using that perceived value to my advantage. There's a lot of moving parts, but that's the gist of it.

Kikas
Oct 30, 2012

Wise Learned Man posted:

some people will die

To harp on this - everyone will die without the spacegame of this scope, because Star Citizen will never exist.

Virtual Captain
Feb 20, 2017

Archive Priest of the Stimperial Order

Star Citizen Good, in all things forevermore. Amen.
:pray:
Think I could be 90 years old and "value demanders" would still make me laugh out loud. lol

G0RF
Mar 19, 2015

Some galactic defender you are, Space Cadet.
A BluesNews discussion thread about the Crytek lawsuits naturally turns into a referendum on Derek Smart, which naturally leads to Hitler comparisons and claims of marriage doxing atrocities, which then naturally summons the Warlord.

quote:

Trusting Derek to be objective and truthful about Star Citizen is like trusting Hitler to have a nuanced approach to Jewish relations... you can give him the benefit of the doubt at first but once he's killed a few million Jews perhaps it's time to not take everything he says at face value. Derek has lied about the project from the start and harassed the developers and their families. His behaviour brought Sandi Gardiner to tears and I have no tolerance for Derek or the people that would defend his actions.

:sandance: You see? It’s all perfectly normal... :sandance:

Kikas
Oct 30, 2012

Aqua Seafoam Shame posted:

I honestly have no idea, but the docs filed with Companies House seem to indicate that they're moving in that direction, not to mention some of the rumours that have been floating around. I can say that outside investors are useful, but not necessary. Example: I invent a company with, let's say 10,000 shares valued at 1p apiece, and distribute these shares to friends and family. I then list my company somewhere where they value the shares at 10 pounds apiece. I've suddenly made my pals look a lot richer on paper. Sure, this value doesn't really exist, but they can leverage this imaginary wealth in other ways. If I happen to find an investor that is actually willing to take the shares at 10 pounds, so much the better, but in the meantime I'm using that perceived value to my advantage. There's a lot of moving parts, but that's the gist of it.

Wait wait wait.
Didn't this already happen with Star Citizen? Didn't G0RF or someone find out that they were prepared to sell stock at such low prices?

congrats on becoming clean bro

SPERMCUBE.ORG
Nov 3, 2011

Space commies are th' biggest threat t' red-blooded American Freedom we got in th' future. So me and my boys got to talking over a few hot dogs the other day and this is what we came up with...

I want to put this guy in a travelling freakshow and charge country bumpkins money to view the harrowing Always Scammed Man.

no_recall
Aug 17, 2015

Lipstick Apathy
I love how backers are still pro Star Citizen even during litigation.

Whats more engaging is the fact that Citizens do not want to know what happened to their money. And better yet discovery thereof will damage CIG! I don't understand the reasoning and logic behind this train of thought. If they wish obscurity from the company which they place their trust in by giving money, I am unsure how knowing the details of spent monies will in fact damage the reputation of the company, rather it should bolster the trust of backers (to back more). But in this case its CIG.

There's always more, its always worse.

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares



It's the 600th day of Squadron 42 being overdue and they released another timetable

Can't make this kind of coincidence up, it's too convenient to be passably plausible in any work of fiction

G0RF
Mar 19, 2015

Some galactic defender you are, Space Cadet.

Kikas posted:

Wait wait wait.
Didn't this already happen with Star Citizen? Didn't G0RF or someone find out that they were prepared to sell stock at such low prices?

congrats on becoming clean bro

There has been thread speculation about potential upcoming stock sales for quite some time. I touched on it in that State of the Game post early this year, but more and better has been written by others in thread.

Whether via offbrand stock marketing listing or a SeedInvest style offering, it’s felt more and more likely as CIG has gotten more and more aggressive about cash grabbing. It was bad enough with the Hercules Warbond offer that the streamers even started having spooked discussions about money after. And that was long before the UEC cap lift sent its own signal and then the Crytek / CIG case didn’t get Cry-REKT! as expected.

Maybe CIG is still flush with cash somehow, and all their 2018 money grubbing is just their full embrace of the unseemliness of their reputation. Even if so, why not try to sell the whales on a chance to own a little piece of the dream? Even if it doesn’t come with the rights generally afforded to shareholders in a corporation? Chris deserves every dollar he can extract from those still believing in him after years of this crap. It’s the principle of the matter at this point.

G0RF
Mar 19, 2015

Some galactic defender you are, Space Cadet.

“It’s a Christmas miracle! We might now be approaching half of the planetary bodies we were owed two years ago, and a third of the new professions! Plus the females we were promised in 2013! All that PLUS Face Over IP! Can criminal erotic gameplay be far behind? I think not!”

Dementropy
Aug 23, 2010



mdxi
Mar 13, 2006

to JERK OFF is to be close to GOD... only with SPURTING

I know that what's left of the Citizenry is deep in denial, and (from what we can see on the internet) largely made up of reactionary, butthurt manchildren -- but if they actually think that discovery is guys in jumpsuits hauling boxes of your Top Secret Hyperadvanced Source Codes over to the party where your opponents, their lawyers, and the judge are all drinking scotch and smoking cigars, chortling as they steal your secrets, then they will have managed to make my faith in humanity drop one more notch. And that's not easy these days.

colonelwest
Jun 30, 2018

☢️ Send nukes every daaaaaay! ☢️
https://tinyurl.com/nukepost

G0RF posted:

“It’s a Christmas miracle! We might now be approaching half of the planetary bodies we were owed two years ago, and a third of the new professions! Plus the females we were promised in 2013! All that PLUS Face Over IP! Can criminal erotic gameplay be far behind? I think not!”



Yeah I love how we're still waiting for content promised in the original 3.0 god patch that was supposed to launch in 2016. Now if you look at the roadmap they'll still be working on Stanton (1/100 promised systems) through the end of 2019. This is all assuming that they can actually shove any more content into their broken tech demo. Like can you imagine the 10fps bug filled shitshow Hurston is going to be whenever it finally launches? It's all good for Star Citizen though, because each of those planets is more detailed than in the original pitch and will have more content than an entire AAA game.

The criminal erotic gameplay has already been in SC for years though, its Chris Roberts fondling your wallets.

colonelwest fucked around with this message at 04:31 on Aug 20, 2018

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Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

Good times :allears:

By the by if you count previous GTA games as some weird psycho-nerd "exploratory" phase then count Chris Roberts previous work meaning Star Citizen is like 30 years old.

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