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colonelwest
Jun 30, 2018

☢️ Send nukes every daaaaaay! ☢️
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big nipples big life posted:

for a game to be a huge success "normies" have to buy it, if CIG caters to them then citizens will lose their poo poo.

I really hope CIG tries to cater to normies.

Citizers think that the game will be a smash hit, the biggest MMO ever that people will be play for decades. It will be an almost obligatory second life for all gamers.

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Stoca Zola
Jun 28, 2008

If I'm reading the kraken sale graph right, it's about 1.8m to 3.45m, ie 1.65m, 1000 x $1650 so they had 1000 for sale? Sold every one at full price? That just works out too nicely to seem legit to me.

Thoatse
Feb 29, 2016

Lol said the scorpion, lmao
Meanwhile in Florida...

https://i.imgur.com/Snks2r7.gifv

Solarin
Nov 15, 2007

boviscopophobic posted:

LOL





Take that, FUDsters! :smuggo: :owned:

:jackbud::jackbud::jackbud::jackbud::jackbud::jackbud::jackbud:

Viscous Soda
Apr 24, 2004

Colostomy Bag posted:

Sadly I've dranked Kraken. Hell I plowed through a handle of the poo poo. One handle and I was done. I'm too lazy to check but the ABV exceeds most rums from what I recall.

If you think that Kraken is the depths of Rum you have not walked the dark paths I've walked.

Chin
Dec 12, 2005

GET LOST 2013
-RALPH
Never underestimate the gullibility of the core SC fuckwit whale base. They watch a demonstration with no AI spaceships flying anywhere and pedestrian NPCs that can't even board a train and feel confident that their life replacement universe simulation is coming along nicely after seven years of development.

A shocking number of these idiots will have purchased multiple Krakens for their JPEG fleets. 1,500 to 2,000 sold would make perfect sense.

Rabelais D
Dec 11, 2012

ts'u nnu k'u k'o t'khye:
A demon doth defecate at thy door
"It's not pay to win!" they scream, madly mashing the button to pay to win.

Gravity_Storm
Mar 1, 2016

Star Citizer: Release the Fraken

SpaceCurtisLeMay
Sep 30, 2016

We're at war with Goons. We were attacked by Goons. Do you want to kill Goons, or would you rather have Citizens killed?

Chin posted:

Never underestimate the gullibility of the core SC fuckwit whale base. They watch a demonstration with no AI spaceships flying anywhere and pedestrian NPCs that can't even board a train and feel confident that their life replacement universe simulation is coming along nicely after seven years of development.

A shocking number of these idiots will have purchased multiple Krakens for their JPEG fleets. 1,500 to 2,000 sold would make perfect sense.

With their crews of virtual sex slaves swabbing their deck? Something that was pointed out by those with a few more brain cells a long time ago, and confirmed with game play in other games, is why the hell would people crew a ship rather than bring their own? Usually having more crew doesn't make you more effective outside of some novelty. I've seen in with Elite Dangerous. Occasionally I've seen it used by people out exploring who just want to come in and go pew pew for a bit. Multi-crew works out very well for that, but how many serious PVPers used it? It was always better to bring a wing of 4 combat ships than have say a fully crewed cutter or corvette.

It's going to be interesting to see how that works out in DDCS with the F-14 which has a backseat people can fill. I could see using it as a poor man's AWACS (Iran did this IRL during the Iran-Iraq war), but would you rather have one F-14 flying CAP or two F-14's flying CAP? Now you can run out of life points and not be able to fly CAP aircraft for 30 - 60 minutes due to friendly fire or you suck or it's just not your day. Typically then you'd go to Tac Commander and become the ground control intercept officer (Magic) until you'd gain back enough points. But each side only has 20 slots each. And with those 20 slots having 2 people use one aircraft is probably not enough of a force multiplier vs. having 2 players in 2 different aircraft. Even if one of those is a "lesser" aircraft like a MiG-21 or F-5 that only takes 1 point to take off. That's still an additional air frame for the enemy to shoot at as well as two to six more AAM's or bombs in the air. My bet is the first week people will be flying RIO because of the novelty, but after that you'll see two people flying two F-14's using the AI RIO.

The same would be true in SC. People who think it's cool to drop off marines in a drop ship...have they ever played something like Project Reality or Planetside 2 where it really sucks to be on a transport, flying for 10 minutes, only to be wasted by a SAM or enemy aircraft before even getting to the AO?

In other news finally caught up with the Frontier dev stream from the other day. Finally after 4 years Elite is getting some exploration gameplay. But I guess they too have a "golf" mechanic only launching probes rather than a timing mini game. Looks to be some actual depth there with sensors giving different readings for different planet types, launching probes to get bonuses, etc. USS's not being completely random client side events anymore and possible more integration of exploration with mining and possibly the background sim? drat they may finally be building a game on top of the best drat universe screen shot simulator...

Beer4TheBeerGod
Aug 23, 2004
Exciting Lemon
This is a really odd, but really interesting discussion on how Disney royally hosed up Star Wars using a concept called a Legitimacy Crisis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLPhi9gXe20

I feel like there are some analogies to Star Citizen and the underlying social system.

Agony Aunt
Apr 17, 2018

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

SpaceCurtisLeMay posted:

With their crews of virtual sex slaves swabbing their deck? Something that was pointed out by those with a few more brain cells a long time ago, and confirmed with game play in other games, is why the hell would people crew a ship rather than bring their own? Usually having more crew doesn't make you more effective outside of some novelty. I've seen in with Elite Dangerous. Occasionally I've seen it used by people out exploring who just want to come in and go pew pew for a bit. Multi-crew works out very well for that, but how many serious PVPers used it? It was always better to bring a wing of 4 combat ships than have say a fully crewed cutter or corvette.

It's going to be interesting to see how that works out in DDCS with the F-14 which has a backseat people can fill. I could see using it as a poor man's AWACS (Iran did this IRL during the Iran-Iraq war), but would you rather have one F-14 flying CAP or two F-14's flying CAP? Now you can run out of life points and not be able to fly CAP aircraft for 30 - 60 minutes due to friendly fire or you suck or it's just not your day. Typically then you'd go to Tac Commander and become the ground control intercept officer (Magic) until you'd gain back enough points. But each side only has 20 slots each. And with those 20 slots having 2 people use one aircraft is probably not enough of a force multiplier vs. having 2 players in 2 different aircraft. Even if one of those is a "lesser" aircraft like a MiG-21 or F-5 that only takes 1 point to take off. That's still an additional air frame for the enemy to shoot at as well as two to six more AAM's or bombs in the air. My bet is the first week people will be flying RIO because of the novelty, but after that you'll see two people flying two F-14's using the AI RIO.

The same would be true in SC. People who think it's cool to drop off marines in a drop ship...have they ever played something like Project Reality or Planetside 2 where it really sucks to be on a transport, flying for 10 minutes, only to be wasted by a SAM or enemy aircraft before even getting to the AO?

While i guess most players want a fun space game with lots of action, there is a small group who seem to want second life in space and it looks like the devs are catering to them. It would seem that by no coincidence that the second lifers are also the whales.

They probably do expect to have peons who man their ships for them while they sit drinking coffee from the captain's chair. They probably think this will enable them to win in any combat situation. I think they will have a sharp hit of reality when they encounter a group of PvPers flying small cheap ships who rip their kraken to shreds while their crew are scrambling for the turrets and ships. And thanks to fidelity and stuff, they will first have to run to the docks, get out of their casual clothing and into space suits. Some of them i guess will have been naked doing ERP with the other ship mates, because hey, what else to do on a long flight anyway?

As for the attackers, i could see them coming in, doing damage, then breaking off as soon as the ships start to launch and turrets start firing. The Kraken will only be able to follow one ship and will wants its fighters with it. When they settle back from red alert, the attack can come again. Heart pounding stuff indeed! :D

I sometimes think that SC will not have many players once it releases and people discover its second life in space. But then i think how popular second life is/was, and how much money people threw at that game. Assuming the devs can actually ship something, it might not be the BDSSE, but it might be the best drat space second life ever, and make a load of money selling land, housing, and cosmetics to second lifers.

Of course, a lot of the original backers will be miffed at this, but they are probably peons who didn't back enough and can be disregarded by CIG.

Sarsapariller
Aug 14, 2015

Occasional vampire queen


Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

This is a really odd, but really interesting discussion on how Disney royally hosed up Star Wars using a concept called a Legitimacy Crisis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLPhi9gXe20

I feel like there are some analogies to Star Citizen and the underlying social system.

I think it's really interesting that people are now blaming Disney for loving up Star Wars when there were literally 3 of the worst movies ever made before they bought it. Fans have strange memories.

Milkfred E. Moore
Aug 27, 2006

'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

Sarsapariller posted:

I think it's really interesting that people are now blaming Disney for loving up Star Wars when there were literally 3 of the worst movies ever made before they bought it. Fans have strange memories.

the prequels are fine films. sorry about your brain worms.

Dogeh
Aug 30, 2017

ShitMeter: -------------|- 99%

Milkfred E. Moore posted:

the prequels are fine films. sorry about your brain worms.

5 > 4 > 6 > 3 > 2 > 1 > 7 > 8

Agony Aunt
Apr 17, 2018

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
Wow, so they sold about 1000 Krakens?

That's going to be interesting to see how they crew them. Imagine the whole playerbase sat in big ships looking at each other asking each other who wants to join their crew.

"Come on guys, come over to my Kraken!"

"No, you come over to mine! Its my turn to be Captain!"

"You were Captain last week! Its my turn. And i need the toilets cleaning!"

Kitfox88
Aug 20, 2007

Anybody lose their glasses?

Milkfred E. Moore posted:

the prequels are fine films. sorry about your brain worms.

:wrong:

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

This is a really odd, but really interesting discussion on how Disney royally hosed up Star Wars using a concept called a Legitimacy Crisis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLPhi9gXe20

I feel like there are some analogies to Star Citizen and the underlying social system.

Eh, really? Star Citizen doesn't have the same issue that the SW films, western comics, and long-running shows have (that they have basically become fan-fiction) since Roberts is Star Citizen and Star Citizen is his. He has the ideas, brings the money, codes all night, is the face of the company, etc. There are no legitimacy issues.

Sarsapariller posted:

I think it's really interesting that people are now blaming Disney for loving up Star Wars when there were literally 3 of the worst movies ever made before they bought it. Fans have strange memories.

That video is right tho. It's one thing if the creator feeds you poo poo, it's another if some other guys who got the rights to the poo poo feed it to you.

Agony Aunt
Apr 17, 2018

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

This is a really odd, but really interesting discussion on how Disney royally hosed up Star Wars using a concept called a Legitimacy Crisis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLPhi9gXe20

I feel like there are some analogies to Star Citizen and the underlying social system.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4TX6x2WLgk

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Agony Aunt posted:

Wow, so they sold about 1000 Krakens?

That's going to be interesting to see how they crew them. Imagine the whole playerbase sat in big ships looking at each other asking each other who wants to join their crew.

"Come on guys, come over to my Kraken!"

"No, you come over to mine! Its my turn to be Captain!"

"You were Captain last week! Its my turn. And i need the toilets cleaning!"

The beauty of the Kraken is that it's both a ship and a mobile hangar. It's a way to carry your other (expensive) ships around, the ones you'll never ever share with some commoners anyways. So it's attractive to both the solo players and the deluded fools that think other people will man their chariot.

G0RF
Mar 19, 2015

Some galactic defender you are, Space Cadet.

boviscopophobic posted:

LOL





Take that, FUDsters! :smuggo: :owned:

G0RF posted:

$3.75 million, real or imagined.

Was the Kraken considered part of the CitCon sale? I gotta believe!

Shadowlyger
Nov 5, 2009

ElvUI super fan at your service!

Ask me any and all questions about UI customization via PM

trucutru posted:

The beauty of the Kraken is that it's both a ship and a mobile hangar. It's a way to carry your other (expensive) ships around, the ones you'll never ever share with some commoners anyways. So it's attractive to both the solo players and the deluded fools that think other people will man their chariot.

I'm reading that as "way to blow up several of their ships simultaneously."

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

Hav posted:

LOOK AT THIS PHOTOGRAPH

EVERY TIME I SEE IT IT MAKES ME LAUGH

WHY ARE THOSE NERDS SO RED?

ARE THEY SAD THAT THEIR PARENTS'RE DEAD?

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Shadowlyger posted:

I'm reading that as "way to blow up several of their ships simultaneously."

win/win/win/win

Kosumo
Apr 9, 2016

trucutru posted:

win/win/win/win

Win/win/pay2win/win

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



Milkfred E. Moore posted:

the prequels are fine films. sorry about your brain worms.
tell me more about this trade federation dispute

Dark Off
Aug 14, 2015




boviscopophobic posted:

LOL





Take that, FUDsters! :smuggo: :owned:


Dark Off posted:

3,44 million in citcon
2 million before years end

putting us nice and even 200 million before doors close down.

:smug: called it

BumbleOne
Jul 1, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

Deadguy2322 posted:

Carports are for plebeians. Get a garage like us high-rollers!

garages are for the middleclass.
get a hangar like a star marshal.

Bofast
Feb 21, 2011

Grimey Drawer

big nipples big life posted:

for a game to be a huge success "normies" have to buy it, if CIG caters to them then citizens will lose their poo poo.

I really hope CIG tries to cater to normies.

It's kind of fascinating how some citizens seem to think that there is this huge crowd out there just waiting to buy a space sim / life replacement full of tedious nonsense, even though the less niche a potential customer is the less tedium they tend to put up with.

Bofast
Feb 21, 2011

Grimey Drawer

Truga posted:

a game that has fast travel is going to have vastly different travel times than a game that doesn't, but these guys don't get that, they just want fast travel gone, which would be incredibly dreadful.

i.e. i'd prefer skyrim to not have fast travel but instead you get a domesticated dragonhorse that can fly over the map in 20 seconds or whatever. it'd be nice and cool flying through the world as you travel, as opposed to "click on map -> load screen -> poof". plus, you can crash into hills or get shot at and dodge ballista arrows etc.

fast travel is just the lazy way out. it works great if you have a big world, but you can definitely also do better.

Chris should just let players ride the sandworms at Mach 2 on whatever planet or moon they exist :colbert:

BumbleOne
Jul 1, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
you're right gunner. no one cares.

BumbleOne fucked around with this message at 07:54 on Oct 21, 2018

Butter Activities
May 4, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

space-X-chicken posted:

Kids these days!!!!!!!111

No one cares

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Just caught up with the thread and wanted to say


HA! HAHAHA! TIP OF THE HAT TO YOU, SIR!

trucutru posted:

Like yeah, who the gently caress actually buys a stock photo to post on tweeter



But the second selection is 100% real. :lol:

what the gently caress is wrong with you miku


Agent Scully was my first crush and this makes me feel very confused.

colonelwest posted:

Citizers think that the game will be a smash hit, the biggest MMO ever that people will be play for decades. It will be an almost obligatory second life for all gamers.



My Large Adult Son, Kuze, named after the Yakuza 0 boss, is absolutely a He Chomnk

Also trying to turn Star Wars into a "prestige brand" and Kathleen Kennedy trying to scorched earth anything that took the piss out of Star Wars was what killed Star Wars.

Codezombie
Sep 2, 2016

colonelwest posted:

Citizers think that the game will be a smash hit, the biggest MMO ever that people will be play for decades. It will be an almost obligatory second life for all gamers.


Maybe they think it'll be like their version of Ready Player One, where they are the hero, and we are the peons who can only look up too and admire them.

BumbleOne
Jul 1, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

wow with just 3 words you made something crystal clear to me!
i need to get my life back! WTF am i doing here?

thank you bye bye.

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
whoever posted that star wars catholic church video, thank you, it's very well done and thoughtful

MedicineHut
Feb 25, 2016

boviscopophobic posted:

LOL





Take that, FUDsters! :smuggo: :owned:

A jpeg that does not even exist yet in game on its way to double the proceeds of this CitCon all by itself. Man those whales going to be pissed off when this sinks.

Solarin
Nov 15, 2007

Fidelity

RabbitWizard
Oct 21, 2008

Muldoon
Chatroulette-Mode is in!

tooterfish
Jul 13, 2013

The inevitable consequence of piracy.

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Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Star Citizen dot MP3 already exists and it's a heavy metal album

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiHpfugCboI

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