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Thoatse
Feb 29, 2016

Lol said the scorpion, lmao

:lol: this is exactly what I pictured in my mind when I saw that sad pic


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boviscopophobic
Feb 5, 2016


That's an impressive number of goon FUD alts and/or downvote bots.

Quavers
Feb 26, 2016

You clearly don't understand game development
Roadmap :airquote:update:airquote: day drama hype :toot:

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

boviscopophobic posted:

That's an impressive number of goon FUD alts and/or downvote bots.

One thing I miss was your monthly usage stats. Granted, you spent more time compiling them versus total people playing the game but I appreciated them.

Dementropy
Aug 23, 2010






This topic doesn't appear on r/sc anymore.

Sarsapariller
Aug 14, 2015

Occasional vampire queen


Dementropy posted:



This topic doesn't appear on r/sc anymore.

As opposed to their previous content, which was top-notch. It wasn't true, but dang it was exciting!

Mirificus
Oct 29, 2004

Kings need not raise their voices to be heard

boviscopophobic
Feb 5, 2016

Colostomy Bag posted:

One thing I miss was your monthly usage stats. Granted, you spent more time compiling them versus total people playing the game but I appreciated them.

Unfortunately, I lost the little rat's nest of scripts that I was using to generate those, and can't be bothered to reconstruct them, given that CI-not-G has choked off most of the channels of potentially interesting information. I suppose if one were willing to run multiple bots in-game, one could try to estimate the PU player population, but that is way more commitment than I am interested in.

Dementropy
Aug 23, 2010




Zazz Razzamatazz
Apr 19, 2016

by sebmojo

"Open" development.

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Have we considered the possibility that we the haters and cymelion may be talking about different Chris Robertses? That would explain a lot of things

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004


brutal

Mirificus
Oct 29, 2004

Kings need not raise their voices to be heard

MedicineHut
Feb 25, 2016

boviscopophobic posted:

Unfortunately, I lost the little rat's nest of scripts that I was using to generate those, and can't be bothered to reconstruct them, given that CI-not-G has choked off most of the channels of potentially interesting information. I suppose if one were willing to run multiple bots in-game, one could try to estimate the PU player population, but that is way more commitment than I am interested in.

Free Bovisco scripts!

Make user stats great again!

tooterfish
Jul 13, 2013

Not a bear, 1 out of 10. :colbert:

Quavers
Feb 26, 2016

You clearly don't understand game development
Today's Star Citizen Live has just finished, and Citizens aren't happy again: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/471209403

No questions from the Spectrum thread, or Twitch chat, were answered onstream.

Concerns in Twitch chat throughout the show that it was pre-recorded.

Meanwhile, Jared and the two devs looked miserable/distracted.

:ohdear:

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

:bisonyes: eat yourselves over this crap.

It's always great to see two mayor SC dumbos fighting.

Strangler 42
Jan 8, 2007

SHAVE IT ALL OFF
ALL OF IT

Is this the Star Citizen equivalent of calling the KGB on your fellow party members?

Dementropy
Aug 23, 2010



https://twitter.com/StarBurgernl/status/1164921513428099072

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos

Quavers posted:


Meanwhile, Jared and the two devs looked miserable/distracted.

:ohdear:

Good

Fidelitious
Apr 17, 2018

MY BIRTH CRY WILL BE THE SOUND OF EVERY WALLET ON THIS PLANET OPENING IN UNISON.

What am I looking at here, what is this?

Is it just some 3d-printed junk from an SC streamer?

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos
I haven't watched this but the title made me laugh enough to share it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JhEJyOoYgY

Rotten Red Rod
Mar 5, 2002

Quavers posted:

Today's Star Citizen Live has just finished, and Citizens aren't happy again: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/471209403

No questions from the Spectrum thread, or Twitch chat, were answered onstream.

Concerns in Twitch chat throughout the show that it was pre-recorded.

Meanwhile, Jared and the two devs looked miserable/distracted.

:ohdear:

Lol @ 45:00, you can fly the ship from the battle bridge, but there's no view screen to outside yet, so you currently have to do it in 3rd person. The chat is not happy about this.

Chocobo
Oct 15, 2012


Here comes a new challenger!
Oven Wrangler

Frontier announces fully functioning fleet carriers for their (functionally) limitless space game, CIG releases a video showcasing how hopelessly broken their game is and begging people to submit bug reports so they can try and find solutions they just don't have. Maybe the side-by-side of these two video releases will lead to revelation.

reverend crabhands
Feb 3, 2016

Quavers posted:

Star Citizen's PTU has 500 players at most (4m43s):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUDqtO0Lzqs&t=283s

Isn't there something like 3000 people in Evocati alone?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUDqtO0Lzqs&t=24s

DicsoLand at the start, he makes me so mad and I'm not even sure why, you just get people who you want to run at arms flailing in a blind rage to attck them. (I am not advocating this!)

I don't know why, just that side to side shake after he says something, so smug, and he looks to the side as though he's trying to think what to say and just thought of something off the top of his head, but it's obvious to everyone he's just reading off a card. And so rehearsed, but trying to make it look so unrehearsed and natural, even the way he makes the pitch of his voice higher than normal for some reason, like maybe he's trying not to be aggressive but by doing that it comes across as some sort of passive aggressivenes. Maybe the epitome of fake I really don't know what exactly it is, I am just sharing my feelings

:mad:

reverend crabhands fucked around with this message at 16:39 on Aug 23, 2019

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

boviscopophobic posted:

Unfortunately, I lost the little rat's nest of scripts that I was using to generate those, and can't be bothered to reconstruct them, given that CI-not-G has choked off most of the channels of potentially interesting information. I suppose if one were willing to run multiple bots in-game, one could try to estimate the PU player population, but that is way more commitment than I am interested in.

No biggie. Hell you could write 2.3 hours for Star Commander and no one would know the loving difference. On second thought, maybe that is what you always
did...

Anyways, you attempted to make sense of this fiasco. For that I commend you. Another fallen comrade.

Sarsapariller
Aug 14, 2015

Occasional vampire queen


Quavers posted:

Today's Star Citizen Live has just finished, and Citizens aren't happy again: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/471209403

No questions from the Spectrum thread, or Twitch chat, were answered onstream.

Concerns in Twitch chat throughout the show that it was pre-recorded.

Meanwhile, Jared and the two devs looked miserable/distracted.

God the entirety of that ship is just useless bullshit. It's not just that it has no current mechanics, it's that no mechanics were even designed and they never will be. No wonder it was the first capital ship out the door- it's probably the only one they had the capacity to produce.

Also :lol: that their stream is being conducted in the lumberyard editor instead of in-game

Sarsapariller
Aug 14, 2015

Occasional vampire queen


Chocobo posted:

Frontier announces fully functioning fleet carriers for their (functionally) limitless space game, CIG releases a video showcasing how hopelessly broken their game is and begging people to submit bug reports so they can try and find solutions they just don't have. Maybe the side-by-side of these two video releases will lead to revelation.

Your annual reminder that out of 45,000 Issue Council tickets, 50 have been marked fixed. Ever.

Heck of a job, QA and bug team!

Hav
Dec 11, 2009

Fun Shoe

peter gabriel posted:

I haven't watched this but the title made me laugh enough to share it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JhEJyOoYgY

It's salty. Very salty.

Google transcription is fairly horrible.

quote:

What's up guys. Salty Mike here, coming at you with another Star Citizen video and today we're just quickly gonna talk about a little rant that I had on my livestream this morning about inside Star Citizen. It's on fire everyone's really upset about it and it's... you know what I'm just gonna let my little livestream rant play and I'd love to hear about what you think in the comments below after you watch the video, so thanks for watching everybody.

Oh my thoughts on this video and my thoughts on just inside Star Citizen as a whole all right; I want to start out with... here let me bring this up from someone who was formerly in QA, "For once QA gets the spot", this is from Mickey or miss me C or Mickey; she... she used to be QA at the whimslo studio or Wilmslow studio and she says "for once QA gets a spotlight and everyone down downvotes the video. QA works so drat hard they do hours and hours of overtime to give up their evenings and weekends for this game. please have some respect." well and most of the comments say the same thing

I'm gonna say this has nothing to do with the QA team, nothing okay, this has everything to do with the global video production team or whatever the frig they're called now. Okay, this has everything to do with that you take three weeks off every quarter and this is something you put out. Not that it was a bad episode because it wasn't okay, it was a very good. Look at what QA actually is in Star Citizen and Mickey was wrong because there's been many QA segments but not a single one of them dove deep enough or in the in the right way to explain how QA actually works for us and what it really means for our experience in the game.

This episode was perfect for that. Okay, the issue... the only issue that I take with this episode is you take three weeks off of every quarter and this is something you put out, when the team is working on things towards 3.7. like what how is this not one of the episodes during your three-week hiatus, this has absolutely nothing to do with 3.6 or 3.7. How do you not have three episodes just like this queued up for that time off and you just play it dude, and then you don't have any time off from any from any weeks because it doesn't make any sense, right just queue this one up you got it and again I'm posted a tweet about this

That's my opinion on on that; but that's my uninformed opinion. I have no idea what's going on in the background of of their video production, right, I have no idea. Like are the devs fighting them to give them content bubble wah I have no idea right so it's gonna sound ridiculous, but what I would ask for at this point is in an episode just like this, about how they make the videos.

I know it was a meme like, they did it like a meme episode, like we should do it an episode about how the video team makes the videos that you're watching and it's like well at some point if we're gonna get super upset about the videos that come out can you at least give us some insight into why the you take three weeks off and why we get episodes like this when we should be seeing what's coming next at this point. Like it's August 23rd, at the in one month's time a patch is supposed to be releasing in one month's time we should be in the PTU of a patch.

Where's the content for that patch? Where's the inventory system? Maybe it's a next week up? Next week's episode fine, but this episode should never be at this point of a patch and it again that's why the down votes are. There is the community says, we don't want this from inside Star Citizen, okay, well I don't think we necessarily have a say so let's get into this part on the and I'll bring this up as well, here we go. It's a fourteen million won professional quality feature-length behind-the-scenes of Star Citizen documentary film they're doing it as they're going 1,000%.

This segment will be a part of that documentary film and 'inside Star Citizen' has become that documentary, and that's not what we want from 'inside Star Citizen' as a community, but I think that's what we're gonna get, because I think that they're probably trying to deliver this in some way shape or form right it the. The quality and the production value of these shows are insanely good for a quote unquote indie studio right it's it looks amazing the content is absolute Tier four what we're looking for or what we're looking for but for what this is a documentary film.

It's awesome so it's... it's a... it's a communication issue between Star Citizen and us is kind of how I'm looking at it. Are you making this documentary film with is see you guys or are you delivering us weekly updates to what's going on in the studio right and that's really all I need to know, and that's all I got out of that, and that's why I want to see a behind the scenes of what the video production team actually does, and what what they do on a day to day basis, because what we're getting from them is a live show. Thursday is when the actual episode comes out, so what's going on the rest of the week?

I'm so curious like when you have an eight-minute video three weeks in a row, what what are you doing Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday like what is your day-to-day work day? It doesn't make sense to me which is why I really feel like I need to see what's going on behind the scenes of this because it's like very confusing to me.

So yeah, I mean, that's that's my real thought on this. I don't think it's super ranty. I don't think it's super bad. It just doesn't make sense to have an episode like this, when you take three fricking weeks off a month or a quarter. It's like this is a Content that you fill with that and I don't think anybody has will have a major issue with it, you know, put our money to good use, that's what we want to see.

It's got nothing to do with QA. It's got nothing to do with developers. It's 'don't waste our money' and that's kind of what it feels like, so like... and then at the same time this is one thing that's really, really important to me to say Jared is not to blame here; at least not 100%. I'm sure he's got some saying this, but you don't have to like Jared's dad jokes. You don't have to like his, I don't know, I think 'personality' is the wrong word, but you don't have to like Jared, right. But always putting the blame on Jared is absolutely ridiculous, there are so many people, other , making decisions and working on this like Chris Roberts, 100% has to say on some of the day to day things that are going on there.

There are probably many other people, and like I've worked behind the scenes with Jared on things a couple times, and the dude is the most like, if... if Jared... if every dev had the dedication that Jared had, we'd already have Star Citizen. We'd already have the game alright, there's nobody that, like, there might be one person that cares more about Star Citizen than Jared and that's Chris Roberts. He's the only other one, right, so it's like, I'm... I... I hate... I... I hate that Jared is so tied.

I mean to these because when we hate on them we're hating on Jared, right, but it's like I know how hard he works, and it's really hard to get this upset about the work that he puts out there. No Jared is not director of video content, look at his actual title, there's somebody above him. There are people above him making decisions okay. Let's keep that in mind, Jared is not a director, there's someone above him and if he's a director, he's assistant director or something. There there is definitely somebody above, right, so it's... uh... it's... it's something that... it's...

I want to make sure that we don't blame just one person, because this is a... this is a bigger problem than just one person and that's where I'm gonna leave today's video, and yeah, I just kind of want to hear what you guys think, but I tried to do my best to think logically through the situation, and why things are happening the way they're happening, and honestly we're just not informed enough to be so upset about it, is we really don't know what's going behind going on behind the scenes and what causes videos like this to happen, and three weeks off each quarter, and why that's so important, and I'd like to know more. So I really like... like to know what you guys thought about the video and yeah, maybe videos like this when I'm kind of struggling for time taking some of my live stream... live stream content, cutting it up and putting it in video for you guys on youtube, so let me know what you guys think, cuz I know a lot of my YouTube audience likely isn't my twitch audience because of the time of day I stream on Twitch, so leave a comment below.

Let me let me know what you guys think about it and I'll catch you guys in the next video.

Leave. Jared. Alone.

But do something about the vacations, Jared's boss.

Hav fucked around with this message at 17:10 on Aug 23, 2019

Sarsapariller
Aug 14, 2015

Occasional vampire queen


Sarsapariller posted:

God the entirety of that ship is just useless bullshit. It's not just that it has no current mechanics, it's that no mechanics were even designed and they never will be. No wonder it was the first capital ship out the door- it's probably the only one they had the capacity to produce.

Also :lol: that their stream is being conducted in the lumberyard editor instead of in-game

I'm the hospital bed complete with Star Trek cat-scanner @50:40, in the game where death is instant and there is only one respawn point

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Rotten Red Rod posted:

Lol @ 45:00, you can fly the ship from the battle bridge, but there's no view screen to outside yet, so you currently have to do it in 3rd person. The chat is not happy about this.

Oh, there was a thread about this already at the reddits

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/ctfk08/i_was_under_the_impression_a_large_ship_like_the/

And the most upvoted comment is, of course

quote:

I would wait before assuming that the current arrangement is permanent; they've already stated numerous times that the chairs are all going to have the ability to assume different functions, and there are items on the roadmap that describe the captains ability to issue orders to bridgemates. It's reasonable to assume that the current setup is just a short-term solution so that we can fly our own ships.

hope flows eternal

Hyper Crab Tank
Feb 10, 2014

The 16-bit retro-future of crustacean-based transportation

Maltloaf posted:


Don't know if you all missed this from the interior 890 screenshots a few pages back, but those book titles man, someone is on point.

Man, if you read those titles top to bottom, it's a story of Star Citizen.

Dare to Dream - The initial Kickstarter pitch. Imagine how amazing this virtual world would be, you guys!
Steps for Humanity: A Study of Political Discourse - Initial progress is shown, but the facade is already cracked and lies are coming out to cover up weird priorities.
Journal of Imperal Economics - Crobbler et al. realize they can mint infinite money from suckers. It's now about the economy - CIG's economy, that is.
We Are All For Sale - Self-explanatory.
Easy Mark - Self-explanatory.
Silent Voices - People are starting to call out CIG on their bullshit, but are silenced by the fervent defenders of the project.
Never Too Late - The story now turns to pleading to the viewer directly. You can still get out! It's not too late! Get a refund!
Grace and Might - The game is released. However, it is neither graceful nor mighty, and...
Financial Diaspora - ... the remaining backers realize they've been had, that the game is poo poo and not a game, and leave en-masse.

... it kind of feels like a cry for help from a lonely rebel texture artist slaving away somewhere in the depths of the shell company moneysphere. You're all right, texture artist.

Shadowlyger
Nov 5, 2009

ElvUI super fan at your service!

Ask me any and all questions about UI customization via PM

"Chris doesn't blame others for failure"

Anyone happen to have the clip of the Crobbler absolving himself of sin? Because the lead up to that is him throwing his dev team under the bus by claiming they can't code the game as quickly as he could.

Scruffpuff
Dec 23, 2015

Fidelity. Wait, was I'm working on again?

Shadowlyger posted:

"Chris doesn't blame others for failure"

Anyone happen to have the clip of the Crobbler absolving himself of sin? Because the lead up to that is him throwing his dev team under the bus by claiming they can't code the game as quickly as he could.

Yep, it was pretty unambiguous.

Nicholas
Mar 7, 2001

Were those not fine days, when we drank of clear honey, and spoke in calm tones of our love for the stuff?

quote:

You're being an unreasonable person, and your negativity is not going to get you any friendships here except with trolls and haters. So you can say I'm attacking you instead of the points you're making, but you're not going to make ANY difference with those points, right or wrong, and you ARE making enemies.

How could you write this and not immediately realize you are describing a cult.

rePool
Apr 18, 2019

Undercover Goon.

So long and thanks for all the fish

Tsed posted:

I'd start here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteMiners/wiki/index

For core mining, you're looking for a void opal hotspot, and you'll be cracking open asteroids to collect a cargo full of void opals. You then head to:

https://inara.cz/goods/10250/

And hit "best sell" to find a place near you buying them for 1.6m. Rinse, repeat. This method requires some new modules that the link above should cover ( https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteMiners/comments/a6ls9t/cmdr_madprophets_guide_to_core_mining/ )

Painite/Low Temp Diamond mining is more like what you might've seen before where you point a laser at a rock and collect the bits with limpets -- the difference is that Frontier added "hotspots" that increase the rate at which you find certain types of minerals. These hotspots can overlap to increase that rate even further, and people have documented them. Head to:

http://edtools.ddns.net/miner

Pick a reference system, pick painite or LTDs. The system will tell you where to find a overlapping hotspots, and where to sell.

Since wifey sauce has been wanting to play ED with me, we'll give this a shot. I want to find some fun and I'm not much for fighting so I run from those like a wuss. I appreciate the info. 1.6m on a trip is better than some near 2-hour passenger mission for half that.

Hav
Dec 11, 2009

Fun Shoe

One for Blue_goebbals;



And one for the Saltiest of Mikes;

Scruffpuff
Dec 23, 2015

Fidelity. Wait, was I'm working on again?

reverend crabhands posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUDqtO0Lzqs&t=24s

DicsoLand at the start, he makes me so mad and I'm not even sure why, you just get people who you want to run at arms flailing in a blind rage to attck them. (I am not advocating this!)

I don't know why, just that side to side shake after he says something, so smug, and he looks to the side as though he's trying to think what to say and just thought of something off the top of his head, but it's obvious to everyone he's just reading off a card. And so rehearsed, but trying to make it look so unrehearsed and natural, even the way he makes the pitch of his voice higher than normal for some reason, like maybe he's trying not to be aggressive but by doing that it comes across as some sort of passive aggressivenes. Maybe the epitome of fake I really don't know what exactly it is, I am just sharing my feelings

:mad:

I get it 100%. I can't stand it when people adopt affectations instead of just being themselves. You want to fight with me, come at me and just state your argument. Guys who raise the pitch of their voices about a half-octave and open up with "ummm" before they make their statement just get under my skin instantly. As if saying "ummm" first means they're about to own me. Motherfucker, if I'm wrong, just show me why, don't come at me with that weak "ummm" poo poo if you're correcting me. It's even better when they turn out wrong after all. Combine that with the smug smirk that practically screams "I'm so much smarter than you, you should be honored I'm even bothering to stoop to addressing you at all."

There is a bright side of it though, which of course doesn't work on the internet. Those kinds of guys are usually straight up pussies when openly confronted, so you can just interrupt right there "rear end in a top hat, why did your voice get higher and what's with all the "ummmm" poo poo, if you have something to say just say it." I've watched guys eyes start watering when they're hit with that approach, I assume it differs from the usual passive-aggressive slapfights they're accustomed to when they're among peers.

I wonder if the military has degenerated to this degree. I'd love to see a marine drill sergeant hit with an "ummmm" as his shiny-faced new recruit sets up to correct him.

Scruffpuff fucked around with this message at 17:19 on Aug 23, 2019

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry
What the gently caress is a wifey sauce?

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