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Brightman
Feb 24, 2005

I've seen fun you people wouldn't believe.
Tiki torches on fire off the summit of Kilauea.
I watched disco balls glitter in the dark near the Brandenburg Gate.
All those moments will be lost in time, like crowds in rain.

Time to sleep.


FAT32 SHAMER posted:

yeah you can get the "bare bones versioni"
The bare bones version is the V2 not the CODE fyi.

Also Cherry switches: Greens, Clears, and Blacks are similar stiffness; Blues, Browns, and Reds are similar stiffness, less so than the former sets. Greens and Blues are tactile with click, Clears and Browns are just tactile, and Reds and Blacks are linear junk (personal opinion, you do you).

Clears are great for the office because the clicks are impolite to co-workers and the stiffness with the tactile bump is just great for typing. Browns are better for gaming, I don't find them mushy myself but I could see how one would feel them as such.

I did seriously consider getting Greens and saying screw being polite.

Edit: Quote added due to new page, also does anyone have a good method for cleaning keys without removing them? Can't exactly pop them in the dishwasher at work...wait...we do have a dishwasher at work...is that even advisable though or is that a myth?

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ColHannibal
Sep 17, 2007


Who needs backlit caps on the CODE?

https://imgur.com/a/P9e3o

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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sorry for being away keeb thread, it's been a weird week

Ultimate Mango posted:

I think several of us have Code keyboards and like them.

I love mine with Clears. I wonder if Clears are just a gateway drug to cherry whites?

this is a correct opinion.

if you want to save a few bucks, especially if you intend on barbie'ing up your keyboard with fancy keycaps, you should also look into a barebones wasd which is for all intents and purposes the same thing as a code (same vendor, no backlighting, trivial hardware differences other than that): http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index....yboard-991.html

teethgrinder posted:

Clears feel great and are socially acceptable.

this is also a correct opinion.

i love me some crazy loud keyboards, but be aware that you're inviting physical harm into your life if you bring anything with blues at the office. having a nice keyboard is cool, but please consider your colleagues (or significant other at home) before buying something that'll be used around others. working while hearing 200+ clicks a minute is not cool.

redeyes posted:

come on now, clears can't be THAT much better than browns

dammit, now I need to buy a board with clears because I love browns

maybe i'm a heavy typer, but i can't feel a difference between browns and reds. the heavier springs in clears provide a much more pleasant key resistance (aka i don't bottom out constantly) and i actually feel the tactile bump in them. my first choice remains buckling springs, but clears are a close second.

FAT32 SHAMER posted:

everyone in my office uses blues but we also all have headphones in to listen to twitch

if you work in an open floor plan office, yeah, everyone is kinda forced to wear headphones by default. however, as the often only finance/accounting/devops dude in a team of devs, i spent a fair amount of time on the phone. people i worked with usually tried to not be dicks about this and keep quiet when i was on a call, but if everyone ran blues it would still sound like a god damned steno pool. there was a place i worked at that was basically that, and having to go out in the hallway every time i had to take a call (often hour-long, critical calls about financing or gov't relations) was a pain in the dick.

i guess what i'm saying is check with your coworkers and don't assume you can bring anything.

LionArcher posted:

Or people who have a private office

i've had my fair share of offices with doors, problem is a lot of offices have walls made out of crumpled newspaper and a layer of paint, so it's not impossible the sound will spill. blues should be good if you have a door, but be aware that you'll have to keep the door closed 24/7.

blugu64 posted:

I use a model m in the office

one of my model m boards is a lexmark rubber dome version; legit a nice dome with crisp, snappy keys (although nothing like an actual buckling spring). the space bar pings like a motherfucker, but apart from that it's quiet enough for the average office. They're fairly cheaper too, if you want to give one a chance look for p/n 7*G**** (mine is 71G4644)

The Unlife Aquatic posted:

How often do you have to beat back angry coworkers with your keyboard?

no joke, half the people who will pick up one of my m boards will comment something to the effect of "wow, you could beat someone with this"

isndl
May 2, 2012
I WON A CONTEST IN TG AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS CUSTOM TITLE

Assuming I wanted to actually invite murder, is there anything louder than the buckling spring?

blugu64
Jul 17, 2006

Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?

Beam spring, I will own one someday

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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yeah beam springs with the solenoid on are hilariously loud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNRH1ULmbNA&t=6m41s
(time stamped at the sound comparison, but the whole thing is worth a watch)

technically the loudest keybards ever are selectric (ibm's flagship typewriter) based:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H92dJbp-KNM

the mag cards are specialized magnetic punch card writers, but before beam spings (the og keyboards) ibm converted selectrics as terminal entry devices so you could argue they're proper keyboards

The Unlife Aquatic
Jun 17, 2009

Here in my car
I feel safest of all
I can lock all my doors
It's the only way to live
In cars


surebet posted:

yeah beam springs with the solenoid on are hilariously loud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNRH1ULmbNA&t=6m41s
(time stamped at the sound comparison, but the whole thing is worth a watch)

I must have one.

isndl
May 2, 2012
I WON A CONTEST IN TG AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS CUSTOM TITLE

Alas, that activation latency is too high for me or I'd start looking to acquire one too.

Nondescript Van
May 2, 2007

Gats N Party Hats


WIP board.

Megalixir
Nov 10, 2007

Vanillaware ltd.


Massdrop delayed the Pok3r RGB drop to an unspecified time

Soul Glo
Aug 27, 2003

Just let it shine through


I've been lurking this thread trying to decide on something since I finally got a new gaming pc last week (and I've actually wanted a mechanical keyboard since two computers ago), so I thought I'd share what I finally settled on today.

I ended up going with the Corsair Strafe RGB MX Silent with cherry reds (Anandtech review linked)

I was deciding between this and a Logitech k840. The Corsair seemed more intense as a first mechanical keyboard, but I felt like the Logitech was little too bare-boned as this keyboard is mainly for gaming and not just straight word processing or coding or whatnot.

This one is apparently a Best Buy exclusive, or was when it came out last year. I only saw used ones up on Amazon, anyway. So far I really like it, though it does feel way different typing on this than my Macbook's keyboard or the crappy Dell stock one I was using before. It's quiet enough too. I know a lot of people want the CLANGING of typical mechanical keyboards, but I wanted something that might not wake the neighbors at 2 am.

Anyway I guess I was just wondering if anybody'd had any bad experiences with these, or whatever. I've never really bought Corsair accessories, pretty much only ever used what came with a computer and Logitech stuff. Also sprung for one of their gently caress-off big mousepads since I was having to use some cabinet liner to keep my last keyboard from sliding around.



Now I just need to replace the monitor and I'll be set for some years, hopefully. Gonna wait for Black Friday on that one.

Constellation I
Apr 3, 2005
I'm a sucker, a little fucker.

Soul Glo posted:

Anyway I guess I was just wondering if anybody'd had any bad experiences with these, or whatever. I've never really bought Corsair accessories, pretty much only ever used what came with a computer and Logitech stuff. Also sprung for one of their gently caress-off big mousepads since I was having to use some cabinet liner to keep my last keyboard from sliding around.

I've had a horrible loving experience with their CUE software and drivers. If you have their drivers and CUE software installed, try the following:

1. Open Steam
2. Doesn't matter if CUE is running or not (installing CUE installs a specific set of drivers for the K70)
3. Unplug your Xbone controller (or any USB peripheral, since it's a USB polling issue)
4. Plug in your Xbone controller
5. Repeat steps 3-4 about 10 times
6. See if your Steam freezes or crashes. Also see if your caps lock and scroll lock indicator stops working.

I was able to reproduce it consistently after like 3-4 unplug cycles. Reproducible on 2 PC's at home. My friend with a Corsair K65 was also able to reproduce. There's about 5 threads on the Corsair forums about it, but Corsair keeps insisting that it's a Steam issue and nothing to do with their software/drivers.

Fair enough, but a) if I completely uninstall CUE and the K70 drivers and just use the generic Windows drivers, the issue completely goes away b) marketing your keyboard as a gaming keyboard, but being incompatible with Steam is pretty stupid.

Anyway, give that a try and see if you have the same issues. If not, Corsair is pretty solid otherwise.

EDIT: Oh, and if you do get the issue. The resolution is to unplug the K70 and plug it back in. Or set the switch at the back of the keyboard to BIOS mode, which sets it to a compatibility mode that lets Windows detect it as a generic keyboard.

Constellation I fucked around with this message at 19:39 on Jul 29, 2017

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002



Soiled Meat

Megalixir posted:

Massdrop delayed the Pok3r RGB drop to an unspecified time
They have non-RGB up right now however which is vastly superior for me: https://www.massdrop.com/buy/vortex...ompact-keyboard

The issue is that RGB can't have Clears or Greens -- they're not manufactured to work with that kind of lighting. (Also if it matters RGB comes with ABS keycaps which I never want again.)

teethgrinder fucked around with this message at 20:49 on Jul 29, 2017

Megalixir
Nov 10, 2007

Vanillaware ltd.


teethgrinder posted:

They have non-RGB up right now however which is vastly superior for me: https://www.massdrop.com/buy/vortex...ompact-keyboard

The issue is that RGB can't have Clears or Greens -- they're not manufactured to work with that kind of lighting. (Also if it matters RGB comes with ABS keycaps which I never want again.)

Estimated ship date is Oct 2, 2017 PT.

no thanks

The Pok3r RGB drop was meant to be SHIPPED on the 25th of July. No idea what is going on with Massdrop these days.

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002



Soiled Meat

Oh misunderstood. Thought you meant a forthcoming one.

It's probably the manufacturer rather than Massdrop though.

Slurps Mad Rips
Jan 25, 2009

Bwaltow!



surebet posted:

yeah beam springs with the solenoid on are hilariously loud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNRH1ULmbNA&t=6m41s
(time stamped at the sound comparison, but the whole thing is worth a watch)

That dude's channel owns and he recently uploaded 90+ minutes of just typing on all the different keyboards he has.

Generic Monk
Oct 31, 2011



FAT32 SHAMER posted:

everyone in my office uses blues but we also all have headphones in to listen to twitch

what on twitch could possibly be worth listening to


listen to podcasts or bbc radio 4

Megalixir posted:

Estimated ship date is Oct 2, 2017 PT.

no thanks

The Pok3r RGB drop was meant to be SHIPPED on the 25th of July. No idea what is going on with Massdrop these days.

if you're not prepared to pay frankly insane amounts of money for poo poo that's going to arrive months late then massdrop is not the place for you

Generic Monk fucked around with this message at 12:13 on Jul 30, 2017

ColHannibal
Sep 17, 2007


Im not sure I follow, why not just buy the Pok3r from mechanicalkeyboards.com?

FAT32 SHAMER
Aug 16, 2012
Tell your mum I said hi lol

Generic Monk posted:

what on twitch could possibly be worth listening to

DrDisrespect

lol if u aren't a member of the slick daddy club just lol

betterinsodapop
Apr 4, 2004

64:1

Generic Monk posted:

if you're not prepared to pay frankly insane amounts of money for poo poo that's going to arrive months late then massdrop is not the place for you
They occasionally get exclusives that are pretty great, but in general I agree. (But you will pry my DasKeyboard w/MX clears from my cold dead hands.)

Megalixir
Nov 10, 2007

Vanillaware ltd.


Generic Monk posted:

if you're not prepared to pay frankly insane amounts of money for poo poo that's going to arrive months late then massdrop is not the place for you

Wow hey yeah cool thanks for the pro tip. If you had actually read what I wrote you would not be replying with this. This is not my first time using Massdrop. This item was supposed to be shipped on the 25th of July.

ColHannibal posted:

Im not sure I follow, why not just buy the Pok3r from mechanicalkeyboards.com?

Because the cheapest international shipping cost is $43? Because not everyone lives in America?

The Unlife Aquatic
Jun 17, 2009

Here in my car
I feel safest of all
I can lock all my doors
It's the only way to live
In cars


Yeah, what I think a lot of people miss is Massdrop is really great for getting mechanical keyboards outside the USA. Their "lovely" discounts in the US are way better than the pile of customs fees most Europeans have to pay to buy from mechanicalkeyobards.com. I will however admit their shipping times can be kinda poo poo and their customer service belongs in a trash can.

pgroce
Oct 24, 2002


Why are their shipping fees that much cheaper? They ship from China to their warehouse in NJ (I think?) and ship from there, right?

I accept that they have lower fees, but I don't understand why. Their business model seems like literally the opposite of one that drives prices down.

ColHannibal
Sep 17, 2007


I actually hear nothing but hatred about their international shipping and the costs associated.

a real chump
Jul 30, 2003

noice

Nap Ghost

To Australia, the shipping cost is a pretty big difference.

I ordered my Race3 from mechkeyboards and ate the 40 USD shipping then about 5 days later it was on massdrop for the same price but 10 usd shipping.

I ordered some keycaps from massdrop and they came in a reasonable time. The tracking wasn't very useful but I would wear that for a 30 USD saving.


This keyboard really owns and i'm considering becoming one of those guys who takes his keyboard to work and back because i love typing on it, but its too expensive to get another one.

The Unlife Aquatic
Jun 17, 2009

Here in my car
I feel safest of all
I can lock all my doors
It's the only way to live
In cars


a real chump posted:

To Australia, the shipping cost is a pretty big difference.

I ordered my Race3 from mechkeyboards and ate the 40 USD shipping then about 5 days later it was on massdrop for the same price but 10 usd shipping.

I ordered some keycaps from massdrop and they came in a reasonable time. The tracking wasn't very useful but I would wear that for a 30 USD saving.


This keyboard really owns and i'm considering becoming one of those guys who takes his keyboard to work and back because i love typing on it, but its too expensive to get another one.

What switches did you get it with? Any thoughts on the build quality? I've been thinking about a Race 3 myself.

a real chump
Jul 30, 2003

noice

Nap Ghost

I got cherry silvers or "speed"

"sick gamer" focus aside, in practice they are reds with a shorter throw. I came from browns and I really prefer this set to the other one. they are significantly quieter too if that is a problem.

The build quality is dope, the case is a high quality feeling aluminum, the key caps are low profile and look great, and the novelty caps they give you are nice without being too garish.

some people dislike it, but i love the floating keycap look aswell.

the only very minor downside, aside from the price, is it doesn't come with a keycap puller. I had one spare so it was nbd.

LochNessMonster
Feb 3, 2005

I need about three fitty



Megalixir posted:

Because the cheapest international shipping cost is $43? Because not everyone lives in America?

My experience with mykeyboards.eu has been pretty good. If you live in the EU you could try them. If they don't have a board in stock, mail them. Sometimes they get extra stuff that's not (yet) on their site.

Delivery was quick too.

Megalixir
Nov 10, 2007

Vanillaware ltd.


LochNessMonster posted:

My experience with mykeyboards.eu has been pretty good. If you live in the EU you could try them. If they don't have a board in stock, mail them. Sometimes they get extra stuff that's not (yet) on their site.

Delivery was quick too.

Nah, I live in New Zealand. They don't have what I ordered from Massdrop anyway - 2x Pok3rs with MX Silent and MX Silver.

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches






a real chump posted:

To Australia, the shipping cost is a pretty big difference.

I ordered my Race3 from mechkeyboards and ate the 40 USD shipping then about 5 days later it was on massdrop for the same price but 10 usd shipping.

The WASD V2 just went up on massdrop, and to get it shipped to Aus with clears and no caps in ANSI TKL at the best price is $93 plus $33 for shipping, while buying it from WASD is $110 plus $50 for shipping, all in USD

Speaking of, is there going to be a more suitable board for a better deal at all? I like backlighting, but I can do without it, especially since it sounds like clears are the switch for me, and clears don't do RGB.

NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 14:23 on Jul 31, 2017

Constellation I
Apr 3, 2005
I'm a sucker, a little fucker.

NTRabbit posted:

The WASD V2 just went up on massdrop, and to get it shipped to Aus with clears and no caps in ANSI TKL at the best price is $93 plus $33 for shipping, while buying it from WASD is $110 plus $50 for shipping, all in USD

Speaking of, is there going to be a more suitable board for a better deal at all? I like backlighting, but I can do without it, especially since it sounds like clears are the switch for me, and clears don't do RGB.

Cooler Master MasterKeys Pro S/M/L. The good thing with "gamer" keyboards is that they're most likely to go on random sales in your local country, so keep an eye out and shop around. They also have a non-backlit version with PBT keycaps, but I'd rather get the RGB backlighting and pick up keycaps later. (turns out to be more expensive, but the keycaps you'd get from WASD will be equally as poo poo as the stock OEM ones from Cooler Master anyway)

EDIT: Oh, clears? Hmm, not so sure on that one.

Constellation I fucked around with this message at 19:03 on Jul 31, 2017

namaste friends
Sep 17, 2004

by Smythe


Anyone tried Cherry MX silent reds?

People keep making fun of me on concalls for typing too loud. I'm currently using cherry mx brown switches on my cooler master.

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches






Constellation I posted:

Cooler Master MasterKeys Pro S/M/L. The good thing with "gamer" keyboards is that they're most likely to go on random sales in your local country, so keep an eye out and shop around. They also have a non-backlit version with PBT keycaps, but I'd rather get the RGB backlighting and pick up keycaps later. (turns out to be more expensive, but the keycaps you'd get from WASD will be equally as poo poo as the stock OEM ones from Cooler Master anyway)

EDIT: Oh, clears? Hmm, not so sure on that one.

Well I haven't tried any switches at all, and it's highly unlikely I'll ever be able to, but by description it sounds like clear are what I want, for a quieter mix of gaming and typing.

I can get a Cooler Master - MasterKeys Pro S with Browns for ~$116 USD from a place that doesn't do sales, and is rarely beaten by sales elsewhere, and I can drive to if they have stock. Otherwise they seem kinda hard to find locally.

NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 19:23 on Jul 31, 2017

a real chump
Jul 30, 2003

noice

Nap Ghost

The Coolermaster boards are reasonably priced and don't look too garish for being gamer boards, other than the RGB lighting which I think you can disable if you want.

I was considering a Masterkeys Pro M because the layout is weird and different.

Deviantfish
Jun 25, 2006

P L E A S E
D O N ' T


Grimey Drawer

I finally decided to learn to solder and threw together my office keyboard after the kit spent a year in my closet. Adjusting to a 40% isn't as much of a pain in the rear end as I thought it'd be (at least for what I have to type) and Matias QCs have a nice feel to them. They're a lot softer than my 55g Topre RF at home though.

FAT32 SHAMER
Aug 16, 2012
Tell your mum I said hi lol

NTRabbit posted:

The WASD V2 just went up on massdrop, and to get it shipped to Aus with clears and no caps in ANSI TKL at the best price is $93 plus $33 for shipping, while buying it from WASD is $110 plus $50 for shipping, all in USD

Speaking of, is there going to be a more suitable board for a better deal at all? I like backlighting, but I can do without it, especially since it sounds like clears are the switch for me, and clears don't do RGB.

thanks for this, imma pick that up even though i'd prefer a white board over a black one

NewFatMike
Jun 11, 2015



pgroce posted:

Why are their shipping fees that much cheaper? They ship from China to their warehouse in NJ (I think?) and ship from there, right?

I accept that they have lower fees, but I don't understand why. Their business model seems like literally the opposite of one that drives prices down.

I may be parting the kimono a bit much here, but most business settle on either:

1) margins via product
2) margins via shipment

Most folks go for the former (i.e. 100% markup at retail), but if you cut that some and decide to go for volume instead, you've got a pretty good recipe for success. Most of the time folks go all in on the former instead of the latter and holding down a day job and then moving fully onto that when you can. But that's also probably not the right/amount of detail you were looking for.

FAT32 SHAMER
Aug 16, 2012
Tell your mum I said hi lol

how are these Leopolds? https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/sho...t_detail&p=2056

I like this and it has my favourite switch but I've never heard the brand discussed itt

LochNessMonster
Feb 3, 2005

I need about three fitty



The XDA Godspeed Set is up on massdrop for less than 12 hours and already has over 1500 purchases.

Alphas are 45, mods 25. Gonna order these for sure. Only thing I'm not sure of is if I should grab an ErgoDox set as well since I'm pretty sure I'll build one sooner or later. Maybe I should just put godspeed on my pok3r and pick up another set for the ErgoDox after I actually have one.

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sarr
Mar 24, 2008

Praise the Sun!


Yeah, I hopped on the Godspeed-train too, they are so good looking I couldn't resist. Now the long wait begins..

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