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unpronounceable
Apr 4, 2010

You mean we still have another game to go through?!


Fallen Rib

surebet posted:

wasd has no backlighting, you're thinking of the extremely similar code keyboard, also sold by wasd

What are the differences between them, other than the backlighting?

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teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002



Soiled Meat

I guess the CODE has a slightly different backplate, and a luminous layer behind the keys to go with the lighting.

The CODE defaults with lovely thin ABS caps, WASD has options or even no caps.

Ultimate Mango
Jan 18, 2005



teethgrinder posted:

I guess the CODE has a slightly different backplate, and a luminous layer behind the keys to go with the lighting.

The CODE defaults with lovely thin ABS caps, WASD has options or even no caps.

Those Vortex double shot PBT keys are nice with the CODE. this thread convinced me to go that route and I do like them.

Megalixir
Nov 10, 2007

Vanillaware ltd.


Generic Monk posted:

i read what you wrote, my point still stands

You wrote: "if you're not prepared to pay frankly insane amounts of money for poo poo that's going to arrive months late then massdrop is not the place for you"

Except that's not true, I paid for something (which wasn't an insane amount of money at all - in fact, it is cheaper than buying anywhere else) and it had a release date of July 25th, but it was postponed to an unspecified time. This is the first time in years I've had something from MD not ship on their shipping date.

Do you just not "get it", or something?

The Deadly Hume
May 26, 2004

Let's get a little crazy. Let's have some fun.

Yeah, the WASD or CODE keyboards have the "standard" layout (as in 6.25u spacebar, 1.25u mods, etc.) so you can pretty much take your pick of keycap sets out there as even the most basic 104-key sets will accommodate that. And obviously a good selection of Cherry MX types.

If you're buying direct from WASD, it may be a good idea to pick up some spare parts, most particularly some stabiliser inserts, maybe some springs and clips, because you'll be glad you did if you swap out keycaps and break one of the drat things because of your enormous trunk fingers. (Same goes for any other keyboard with MX switches.)

The other trick with the inserts is if they feel a bit loose in the cap, use some plastic wrap or something to make it a little tighter.

Lowness 72
Jul 19, 2006
BUTTS LOL

Jade Ear Joe

So if the CODE caps are so bad, can you customize the same options on a regular WASD board and then add better caps?

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002



Soiled Meat

Nope. It's as-is.

So all that said ... some people are totally happy with them. And I know one guy who owns one and insists the paint hasn't come off his caps (turns them into translucent lit smears) so I don't know what we're doing differently.

I did like the keyboard for years, and it had a nice solid "deliberate" feeling which carried through the design as well. It's just that when I finally switched to PBT I thought "wow this is better". Absolutely nothing stopping you from getting the CODE and then grabbing a keycap set that attracts your eye from somewhere later. (But as people have said, that black Vortex PBT set seems to suit the CODE better than any other. I used gradient blue caps with shine-through legends, but the luminous layer behind the caps looked "wrong" against them, like a non-matching off-light blue.

well why not
Feb 9, 2009





LochNessMonster posted:

Razer has a 'bad rep' because they target a gamer audience and price their products accordingly.

Technically there's nothing wrong with the Razer keyboards I worked with (never owned one myself, but my wife does).

The only 'gaming'/Razer thing i own is the hilariously named Blackwidow X Tournament Edition Chroma. It fit my needs (tkl, mx, metal, rgb, mac support, available in Europe) perfectly. It's a little too aggressively designed, particularly with the light up front logo, but aside from that it's great. I like there's no frame and it feels super weighty. The switches aren't exactly the same as Cherry, but they're close enough it'd be tough to tell in a blind test.

I grabbed some clear caps for my CMD keys, and shifted the 'alt' key one spot, so it's got a sensible OSX layout. They were a little expensive, but it's super cool when the light hits them - they're much brighter than the other keys due to their position and transparency.

If you want a TKL mech board, with RGB at a reasonable price it's honestly a pretty good deal. Particularly because it's so full-featured and you can buy it without having to wait months for massdrop/shipping issues. Sometimes buying stuff from a real company is really preferable.

chippy
Aug 16, 2006

OK I DON'T GET IT

Lowness 72 posted:

So if the CODE caps are so bad, can you customize the same options on a regular WASD board and then add better caps?

No, you can't get the backlighting on a regular WASD.

betterinsodapop
Apr 4, 2004

64:1

Not all ABS keycaps are garbage (thinking Das,) but those that come as stock on the CODE sure are. Thin, clacky, they ping and feel cheap/light. Vortex caps are cheap and feel great, and I wouldn't get a CODE w/o getting them too.

Tax Oddity
Apr 8, 2007

The love cannon has a very short range, about 2 feet, so you're inevitably out of range. I have to close the distance.

I haven't been able to find any Vortex PBT caps for a lot of the European (specifically, Swedish/Nordic) layouts. Am I not looking in the right place? Or are there other caps I should be using, if I were to order a CODE?

Lowness 72
Jul 19, 2006
BUTTS LOL

Jade Ear Joe

What's the go to place to get the vortex caps?

The Unlife Aquatic
Jun 17, 2009

Here in my car
I feel safest of all
I can lock all my doors
It's the only way to live
In cars


Lowness 72 posted:

What's the go to place to get the vortex caps?

Here they are in black. White is currently out of stock.

Greatest Living Man
Jul 22, 2005

ask President Obama


FAT32 SHAMER posted:

arent they a membrane that clicks?

The click is satisfying and the keys feel tight, but I ended up returning the Ornata because it is possible to make a "click" without actuating a key. It's difficult, but possible. I switched back to my old Das Ultimate 3 w/ blues.

LochNessMonster
Feb 3, 2005

I need about three fitty



Mykeyboards.eu has nordic pok3r caps too. Might be cheaper in shipping.

https://mykeyboard.eu/catalogue/vor...dic-keycaps_28/

The Unlife Aquatic
Jun 17, 2009

Here in my car
I feel safest of all
I can lock all my doors
It's the only way to live
In cars


LochNessMonster posted:

Mykeyboards.eu has nordic pok3r caps too. Might be cheaper in shipping.

https://mykeyboard.eu/catalogue/vor...dic-keycaps_28/

I'm wondering if anyone else has used this website? I'd love to add a european alternative to mechanicalkeyboards.com.

LochNessMonster
Feb 3, 2005

I need about three fitty



The Unlife Aquatic posted:

I'm wondering if anyone else has used this website? I'd love to add a european alternative to mechanicalkeyboards.com.

I'm sure I already mentioned I got my Pok3r from them. Two day delivery (international). Downside is that you can only pay with paypal.

The Unlife Aquatic
Jun 17, 2009

Here in my car
I feel safest of all
I can lock all my doors
It's the only way to live
In cars


I'll put them in the OP. It's not as big as mk but honestly giving euros any alternative to Massdrop is probably a good thing.

Horizontal Tree
Dec 31, 2009


I have a horrible craving for an ErgoDox but I do not want to wait for MassDrop and then have to pay $200 and wait months

LochNessMonster
Feb 3, 2005

I need about three fitty



Horizontal Tree posted:

I have a horrible craving for an ErgoDox but I do not want to wait for MassDrop and then have to pay $200 and wait months

You and me both man.

Brightman
Feb 24, 2005

I've seen fun you people wouldn't believe.
Tiki torches on fire off the summit of Kilauea.
I watched disco balls glitter in the dark near the Brandenburg Gate.
All those moments will be lost in time, like crowds in rain.

Time to sleep.


teethgrinder posted:

Nope. It's as-is.

So all that said ... some people are totally happy with them. And I know one guy who owns one and insists the paint hasn't come off his caps (turns them into translucent lit smears) so I don't know what we're doing differently.

I did like the keyboard for years, and it had a nice solid "deliberate" feeling which carried through the design as well. It's just that when I finally switched to PBT I thought "wow this is better". Absolutely nothing stopping you from getting the CODE and then grabbing a keycap set that attracts your eye from somewhere later. (But as people have said, that black Vortex PBT set seems to suit the CODE better than any other. I used gradient blue caps with shine-through legends, but the luminous layer behind the caps looked "wrong" against them, like a non-matching off-light blue.

Might be that guy got his CODE later than you after WASD changed their printing process. I forget when it was but they supposedly improved that so the paint doesn't chip off as easily. Still, thin abs is thin abs.

Lowness 72 posted:

What's the go to place to get the vortex caps?

I got mine off eBay, looks like they just have mod keys and white and black ones with clear legends right now. Amazon had some at some point...looks like it's the same deal as with eBay, there are some other PBT doubleshots on there though.

unpronounceable
Apr 4, 2010

You mean we still have another game to go through?!


Fallen Rib

teethgrinder posted:

I guess the CODE has a slightly different backplate, and a luminous layer behind the keys to go with the lighting.

The CODE defaults with lovely thin ABS caps, WASD has options or even no caps.

Thanks. I'll probably get a bare WASD when I can find someone to smuggle it over the border. The backlighting isn't worth ~$55 canuckbucks to me, and I have a set of keycaps that should come eventually.

FAT32 SHAMER
Aug 16, 2012
Tell your mum I said hi lol

Are you near Windsor my dude?

Nondescript Van
May 2, 2007

Gats N Party Hats


Horizontal Tree posted:

I have a horrible craving for an ErgoDox but I do not want to wait for MassDrop and then have to pay $200 and wait months

there are some other options but not exactly cheap

http://shop.profetkeyboards.com/products

https://ergodox-ez.com/

euro: http://falbatech.pl/prestashop/index.php

I think most parts can be found here: https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/sho...ct_detail&p=537

you can also troll the /r/mechmarket subreddit and try to snag one that somebody wants to sell.

unpronounceable
Apr 4, 2010

You mean we still have another game to go through?!


Fallen Rib

FAT32 SHAMER posted:

Are you near Windsor my dude?

I'm in Montreal.

FAT32 SHAMER
Aug 16, 2012
Tell your mum I said hi lol

unpronounceable posted:

I'm in Montreal.

Well gently caress

Lawen
Aug 7, 2000



Nondescript Van posted:

there are some other options but not exactly cheap

http://shop.profetkeyboards.com/products

https://ergodox-ez.com/

euro: http://falbatech.pl/prestashop/index.php

I think most parts can be found here: https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/sho...ct_detail&p=537

you can also troll the /r/mechmarket subreddit and try to snag one that somebody wants to sell.

This is a really good post if you want an Ergo and don't want to gently caress with Massdrop or soldering irons. Like, OP quote worthy.

E: that said, if you're down to gently caress with Massdrop and a soldering iron, I still think the Ergodox Infinity is the ne plus ultra of ergodoxes(ergodoxi?).

Lawen fucked around with this message at 04:01 on Aug 9, 2017

Horizontal Tree
Dec 31, 2009


Yeah, I think if I get an ErgoDox it's going to be an Infinity. I love my White Fox. I'd also wanna get an ErgoDox kit for my Granite caps..

betterinsodapop
Apr 4, 2004

64:1

Brightman posted:

Might be that guy got his CODE later than you after WASD changed their printing process. I forget when it was but they supposedly improved that so the paint doesn't chip off as easily. Still, thin abs is thin abs.
Stock CODE caps don't really fade anymore, but they are thin, clacky pieces of poo poo. It's kind of awful they are shipping a $150 keyboard with caps that are worse than your average $10 Dell keyboard.

The Unlife Aquatic posted:

Here they are in black. White is currently out of stock.
If you buy Vortex caps for a Code, buy them from that link.

Stupidly, the ones I bought from WASD had the number row with top/bottom legends that don't match up w/the backlighting of the CODE.

The Vortex caps from Mechanical Keyboards have the correct left/right legends that DO match the backlighting of the CODE.

FAT32 SHAMER
Aug 16, 2012
Tell your mum I said hi lol

I got my Ducky One RGB in and I think one of the LEDs R in RGB doesn't work





I'm debating if I should call the Amazon people and have it exchanged or if I really care since the keycaps I'm getting in September from massdrop don't have windows anyways so it's more about the background lighting

edit: other than that this keyboard is great, very solid and i love the white colour. i think i must have bought it from mechanicalkeyboards.com's amazon store because it came in a MK box, so maybe i'll just bother them and see what they can do for me

FAT32 SHAMER fucked around with this message at 18:07 on Aug 10, 2017

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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FAT32 SHAMER posted:

I got my Ducky One RGB in and I think one of the LEDs R in RGB doesn't work





I'm debating if I should call the Amazon people and have it exchanged or if I really care since the keycaps I'm getting in September from massdrop don't have windows anyways so it's more about the background lighting

edit: other than that this keyboard is great, very solid and i love the white colour. i think i must have bought it from mechanicalkeyboards.com's amazon store because it came in a MK box, so maybe i'll just bother them and see what they can do for me

if i just spent a hundo and a half on a keyboard, i'd sure as poo poo want to make sure all my pretty princess lights worked as intended

Constellation I
Apr 3, 2005
I'm a sucker, a little fucker.

Exchange it. It's not like you're dealing with shipping it from another country eating shipping costs or anything. It's Amazon.

FAT32 SHAMER
Aug 16, 2012
Tell your mum I said hi lol

Yeah I called them and they're gonna hook me up. Kind of annoying but it's ok

Also pink is gonna look so drat good for my vaporwave a e s t h e t i c s

8-bit Miniboss
May 24, 2005

CORPO COPS CAME FOR MY


Got the parts from my first group buy. Looks like I have a weekend project! Initially wanted to get Cherry MX Clears or even Zealios, but the group buy tossed in 90x Gateron switches (got brown again) for under 15 bucks.



Already got some PBT keycaps from some bootlegger on Aliexpress.

8-bit Miniboss fucked around with this message at 19:55 on Aug 10, 2017

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 30 hours!


How are Corsair's keyboards with Cherry Reds? I just spilled on my old Razer BlackWidow, killing it and I need to get a replacement. I was looking at the K68, since it has spill protection and I'm a klutz. I want something with a full layout and good mechanical switches at least. Problem is I'm in Canada, so there's not much available from the suggestion in the OP. Are Reds a good go to switch for gaming/lots of word processing?

The Unlife Aquatic
Jun 17, 2009

Here in my car
I feel safest of all
I can lock all my doors
It's the only way to live
In cars


I had a Corsair K70 RGB and I will confirm their build quality is tops, they're a little overpriced for what you get though. Reds are a good switch if you want the lightest possible keypress and don't want any feedback from the key.

Dogen
May 5, 2002

Bury my body down by the highwayside, so that my old evil spirit can get a Greyhound bus and ride


Iím pretty happy with my K70 which I use for both work and gaming.

wolrah
May 8, 2006
what?


I love my K95 RGB with Browns for all-purpose use, I can't imagine the ones with Reds are meaningfully different other than the switches.

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 30 hours!


Ordered the K68. Definitely not cheap, but if it lasts a few years it'll be worth the price.

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The Unlife Aquatic
Jun 17, 2009

Here in my car
I feel safest of all
I can lock all my doors
It's the only way to live
In cars


It will. Corsair boards are built to last.

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