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Nondescript Van
May 2, 2007

Gats N Party Hats


Like many people, I'm probably gonna avoid massdrop from now on if I can. The savings typically aren't that great and they have some big supply chain and communication issues.

As for the engineer dudes, well I wouldn't be surprised if they just don't know how to read contracts.

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Constellation I
Apr 3, 2005
I'm a sucker, a little fucker.

Massdrop is great for anything that's Massdrop exclusive. Everything else, I just get from China.

Really interested to get my hands on the True's and Clear's in the future though.

blugu64
Jul 17, 2006

Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?

After the ergodox infinity arrived they sent a survey asking if I'd recommend them to a friend.

Might put that kit up one eBay actually as I bought a Kinesis Advantage when I didn't hear anything for several weeks.

TWBalls
Apr 16, 2003
My medication never lies

blugu64 posted:

Might put that kit up one eBay actually as I bought a Kinesis Advantage when I didn't hear anything for several weeks.
That reminds me, I need to get off of my rear end and list my old Kinesis on SA-Mart. It has just been sitting in a box for the past year or so since I switched to my Code keyboards.

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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Constellation I posted:

Massdrop is great for anything that's Massdrop exclusive. Everything else, I just get from China.

same, which is a shame because a lot of the market for custom stuff is consolidating on massdrop. then again, the previous big names in custom cap group buys were also sketchy fuckers, so massdrop is at least better in terms of reliability.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Mechanical...ki/psagroupbuys

for anything off the shelf (ie the wasd i'm typing on right now) you're not going to save much more than a few bucks, which makes no sense considering the order delay unless there's some specific conditions (shipping, don't care about delay, etc) in play.

do use them for custom keycap sets you fancy (because you don't have a choice, really) but that's about it.

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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blugu64 posted:

After the ergodox infinity arrived they sent a survey asking if I'd recommend them to a friend.

Might put that kit up one eBay actually as I bought a Kinesis Advantage when I didn't hear anything for several weeks.

you might want to check with forums user LochNessMonster, he wanted one in the last thread:

LochNessMonster posted:

I want an ergodox... I'm looking 200+ aren't I?

no idea if that's still actionable, otherwise i'm sure someone here, in sa mart or on r/mechmarket would be glad to take it off of your hands and save you that 10% ebay fee.

i would, but i just ate a surprise 5 figgie medical expense so lol discretionary spending for a little while

unpronounceable
Apr 4, 2010

You mean we still have another game to go through?!


Fallen Rib

I'm not going to use Massdrop again. This drama is certainly part of it, but more than that, I have pretty keycaps, and a Code coming my way, so I don't need to buy any more keyboard stuff.



I mean, what else could I possibly want?

Nondescript Van
May 2, 2007

Gats N Party Hats


Well, for Massdrop surprises: the Miami Dolch set is ahead of schedule and should be on the way to their warehouse for shipping soon. Over a month faster than estimated. Doesn't make up for a planck that is 3 months late to ship and a keyset that is still MIA.

ColHannibal
Sep 17, 2007


https://www.massdrop.com/buy/ducky-...cal-numpad/talk

If you want to pay more than retail.

Constellation I
Apr 3, 2005
I'm a sucker, a little fucker.

unpronounceable posted:

so I don't need to buy any more keyboard stuff.

lol

The Unlife Aquatic
Jun 17, 2009

Here in my car
I feel safest of all
I can lock all my doors
It's the only way to live
In cars


unpronounceable posted:

so I don't need to buy any more keyboard stuff.

Oh sweet summer child.

The Deadly Hume
May 26, 2004

Let's get a little crazy. Let's have some fun.

Sometimes patent bitchiness goes the other way too. Not keyboard related (but Massdrop related) but I was hoping they'd do one of the O2+ODAC sets again but apparently whoever bought the design said "nope, no group buy sites ever".

Anyway I still like to check things out, sometimes it's not the price of the actual object it's the reduced shipping costs that make the buys worthwhile.

LochNessMonster
Feb 3, 2005

I need about three fitty



surebet posted:

you might want to check with forums user LochNessMonster, he wanted one in the last thread:


no idea if that's still actionable, otherwise i'm sure someone here, in sa mart or on r/mechmarket would be glad to take it off of your hands and save you that 10% ebay fee.


I might be interested, send me a pm if you want to sell.

pgroce
Oct 24, 2002


Massdrop responds: https://www.massdrop.com/talk/2342/...o-switch-update

quote:

In our agreement for the HALO switch, Input Club requested an exception to our exclusive distribution rights to allow them to offer switches directly to end customers as replacement parts and as standalone switches via their website. This was a reasonable request, so we agreed and wrote it into the agreement. After that, Input Club launched their kickstarter campaign for the Whitefox, offering HALO switches as an option. This was against the terms of our agreement, so we reached out to let them know and discuss ways to move forward.

Yup, sounds like I:C got rolled on the licensing agreement.

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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yeah but that's just them being dicks at that point since it could be reasonably interpreted that since they retained retail rights on their own sales channel for individual switches, that they also had discretion to sell finished goods, and quite possibly on peripheral channels

otherwise the easy out for input club is to sell however thousands of single switches at cost to the newly minted input clũb and have them run the kickstarter

pgroce
Oct 24, 2002


Bonus comment from the MD post:

Muni_Chang posted:

Shits happen

Seems to sum it up nicely.

The Unlife Aquatic
Jun 17, 2009

Here in my car
I feel safest of all
I can lock all my doors
It's the only way to live
In cars


Massdrop just keeps finding new and exciting ways to be lovely.

Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Dec 22, 2005

GET LOSE, YOU CAN'T COMPARE WITH MY POWERS


TWBalls posted:

That reminds me, I need to get off of my rear end and list my old Kinesis on SA-Mart. It has just been sitting in a box for the past year or so since I switched to my Code keyboards.

...I might be interested. Does it work well still? Has anyone tried to play games on one of these things? I use one at work and my wrists love it, how quickly am I gonna get sick of custom controls on every game?

*breaks decade-old forums rule as moderator over nerdy keyboard poo poo*

TWBalls
Apr 16, 2003
My medication never lies

Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:

...I might be interested. Does it work well still? Has anyone tried to play games on one of these things? I use one at work and my wrists love it, how quickly am I gonna get sick of custom controls on every game?

*breaks decade-old forums rule as moderator over nerdy keyboard poo poo*

I'll try connecting it tonight. It worked well last time I used it. I've never done any gaming with it, as I was using it at work. Only reason I stopped was because I use 10 key fairly often.

***edit***
Not sure if it matters or not, but mine has Cherry Browns. I think, back when I ordered it, that it was only offered in Reds or Browns.

Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Dec 22, 2005

GET LOSE, YOU CAN'T COMPARE WITH MY POWERS


Oh thanks for reminding me because it does matter and I want browns.

Constellation I
Apr 3, 2005
I'm a sucker, a little fucker.

Input Club just posted a response to Massdrop's post:

https://input.club/official-halo-switch-statement/

In short, Massdrop looks pretty lovely here, but Input Club also seem to be filled with morons. I regret getting into a group buy from both companies.

blugu64
Jul 17, 2006

Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?

Just in case you end up not wanting that one, Kinesis currently is discounting their refurbs an extra 10%, which is what I went with. Got the Qwerty/Dvorak model. Dvorak owns.

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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Constellation I posted:

Input Club just posted a response to Massdrop's post:

https://input.club/official-halo-switch-statement/

In short, Massdrop looks pretty lovely here, but Input Club also seem to be filled with morons. I regret getting into a group buy from both companies.

i'm surprised input club actually had the forethought to trademark their stuff:
http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=8...pe=statusSearch
http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=8...pe=statusSearch

i'm not seeing a patent, at least while throwing all the names i could think of on the uspto search engine, so either there's actually no patent in play or they're misusing "patent owner" when they really mean "who has authority to order a run over at kaihua"

the greater tragedy here is that if both parties start burning bridges other shared projects like the ergodox infinity might also get stuck in limbo.

Thelonious Monk
Apr 1, 2008

Life and music: all about style.

I'm so far down the rabbit hole. I just flipped a HHKB for a Leopold FC980C. I already own a pok3r with Mx clears (with some aluminum case from massdrop and dsa granite keycaps).

Now I have a filco minila in Mx blacks coming in the mail just because "I might like the layout and why not". And I'm looking at the 1up LJD61UP carbon fibre diy kits. I don't get why it's such a slippery slope.

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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have some old timey ibm goodness

surebet posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNRH1ULmbNA&t=6m57s

it's legit worth it to just start watching this from the beginning

surebet posted:

holy poo poo he made a new beamspring video!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qw6ebySet0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qw6ebySet0&t=15m5s <- just the typing sounds

Naar
Aug 19, 2003

The Time of the Eye is now

Fun Shoe

I've had a Steelseries 7G at home for a few years, mostly for gaming with a bit of coding, but I'm looking to get something a bit nicer. I also have a Matias Tactile Pro which I use for coding at work which I really like, so I was considering the Matias Quiet Pro so I don't drive my wife crazy. I've also been looking at either the Filco Majestouch-2 or the Varmilo VA109M - any opinions as to which is nicer, or other boards I should think about? I don't care about backlighting and I'd prefer a 100% ISO UK layout.

underage at the vape shop
May 11, 2011

by Cyrano4747


whats the most effective way to clean keyboard keys

taking them off and wiping 1 by 1 takes too long

Ultimate Mango
Jan 18, 2005



Dishwasher in a mesh bag.

underage at the vape shop
May 11, 2011

by Cyrano4747


Ultimate Mango posted:

Dishwasher in a mesh bag.

they are 100% heat resistant?

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches






underage at the vape shop posted:

they are 100% heat resistant?

Wiki says PBT is heat resistant to 150 C, ABS to 105 C; Dishwashers operate between 45 and 75 C

well why not
Feb 9, 2009





Just a headsup for any Aussies looking for MKs, Ducky are actually available on PC Case Gear - I haven't actually noticed them on any other stores, so I thought it'd be interesting to others.

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

ROBOT



underage at the vape shop posted:

whats the most effective way to clean keyboard keys

taking them off and wiping 1 by 1 takes too long

Big bowl of warm water and a bunch of denture cleaner tablets. I'm not joking, poo poo's like magic.

Chikimiki
May 14, 2009


Hey keyboard thread! I'm looking for a good basic keyboard with function- and media keys, nothing too blingy or expensive. I'd also like it to be quiet. Main use surfing and some gaming. Any recommendations for those criteria? I'm currently using a cheap dell keyboard, but I really liked my old thinkpad's tiping experience. Apple's full keyboard seemed good enough , but function and media keys are not distinct, plus it's expensive. Logitech G213 was another candidate, but I hate the gamer bling, and I'm afraid of the noise of those mechanical keys

Thanks in advance for your help!

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002



Soiled Meat

My Race 3 shipped a day early. Still haven't had a late Massdrop order

Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X


Chikimiki posted:

Hey keyboard thread! I'm looking for a good basic keyboard with function- and media keys, nothing too blingy or expensive. I'd also like it to be quiet. Main use surfing and some gaming. Any recommendations for those criteria? I'm currently using a cheap dell keyboard, but I really liked my old thinkpad's tiping experience. Apple's full keyboard seemed good enough , but function and media keys are not distinct, plus it's expensive. Logitech G213 was another candidate, but I hate the gamer bling, and I'm afraid of the noise of those mechanical keys

Thanks in advance for your help!

https://www.amazon.com/Mechanical-K...n/dp/B01HHTFSIK

That's what I'd go with. I think Gateron switches are still well regarded as the best of the cheap Cherry knockoffs. Downside is it doesn't come in black, far as I know.

Personally I prefer clears over browns, but browns are still spectacular compared to rubber dome mush.

If $70 is still more than you want to spend you could try this one which I don't know anything about except it's well reviewed. There's also its somehow even cheaper (30 freakin' dollars!) tenkeyless cousin.

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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Chikimiki posted:

Hey keyboard thread! I'm looking for a good basic keyboard with function- and media keys, nothing too blingy or expensive. I'd also like it to be quiet. Main use surfing and some gaming. Any recommendations for those criteria? I'm currently using a cheap dell keyboard, but I really liked my old thinkpad's tiping experience. Apple's full keyboard seemed good enough , but function and media keys are not distinct, plus it's expensive. Logitech G213 was another candidate, but I hate the gamer bling, and I'm afraid of the noise of those mechanical keys

Thanks in advance for your help!

gonna go in the other budget direction, if you're looking for something absolutely not gamer-y, consider the code and the wasd. very similar boards with slight differences, but basically:
- the code comes back lit in solid white and ships with keycaps
- the wasd has no backlight ships either with or without keycaps

in your case:
- avoid stuff with blue or green switches, those are the noisiest. consider adding orings to the order as well, they help with at least part of the noise problem.
- if you need a backlight, go code
- if you you want a custom set of keycaps immediately, go barebones wasd
- if in doubt, go code

both use fn & the home cluster as a media player:

(arguably not as good as dedicated media keys, but if you ever want to start playing with custom keycaps at least you won't have to deal with a 107/108 layout instead of the 104 standard, plus the shortcuts are easy to pick up)

clean, dependable, well supported, these are in the $150 range but they're a nice midpoint in much nicer than average boards that don't cost actually absurd amounts of money. load it up with clears for that tactile bump that helps you not bottom out and slap some orings in, it's going to be noisier than the average rubber dome $5 dell special but still well within the realm of reason.



if you want some sweet rear end media keys, the das 4 professional and das 4 ultimate are always nice staples:


for my money i'd go with a code, but these in brown switches would suit your needs. these version 4 models do not have a back light, and due to rather erratic quality control reports on the generations following them, i'd stick to these for that brand.

they msrp at ~$170 with browns.

can't wouch for them, but matias quiet linear switches are supposed to be very quiet, so you have options there too in the $100-$150 range:
http://matias.ca/quietpro/pc/
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/sho...oduct_list&c=87

and finally, at the more expensive end of the spectrum, anything topre & silenced is going to pretty drat quiet:


https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/sho...t_detail&p=2875

250ish range

tl;dr: get a code, they're great

teraflame
Jan 6, 2009


what in the world, recommending das keyboard in 2017...

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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heh, big rear end volume wheel is always nice, and anything up to gen 4 is ok. they really went off the rails after and it hit peak with their rgb keyboard that for some reason has a complex api exposed to the internet

betterinsodapop
Apr 4, 2004

64:1

surebet posted:

tl;dr: get a code, they're great
This, but make room in the budget for replacement caps.

teraflame posted:

what in the world, recommending das keyboard in 2017...
The das4 pro is sweet.

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rarbatrol
Apr 17, 2011

Hurt//maim//kill.

A couple days ago, my KBParadise V80 started randomly typing As when I wasn't pressing them. It started to manifest while playing a game, where I would get stuck running sideways until I tapped A again, but at one point it automatically filled a text box when I was away from the keyboard for a while.

Any ideas as to what could be the cause?

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